For the avoidance of doubt, this is not the Scot Goes Pop-commissioned poll, which was conducted by another firm and will be published this evening. It looks like Survation have been sitting on this for a little while, because the questions were asked as part of the Progress Scotland poll conducted between the 20th and 22nd of January.
Should Scotland be an independent country?
Yes 50.2%
No 49.8%
Scottish Parliament constituency voting intentions:
SNP 51%
Conservatives 23%
Labour 17%
Liberal Democrats 7%
Scottish Parliament regional list voting intentions:
SNP 38%
Conservatives 21%
Labour 19%
Greens 9%
Liberal Democrats 9%
As I always point out, Survation's regional list figures should be taken with a heavy dose of salt, because they generally seem to be markedly worse for the SNP and markedly better for the Greens than other firms suggest. I strongly suspect the problem lies in the way the question is posed, which may lead some respondents to wrongly suppose that they're being asked for a second preference vote.
Monday, February 3, 2020
Sunday, February 2, 2020
Al Jazeera film on Brexit Day
Yesterday morning I made my way to a swanky coffee shop in the west end of Glasgow to be filmed speaking about Brexit Day for an Al Jazeera social media feature, along with Remain-supporting Australian Tahnee Conn, Leave-supporting Tom Walker, and the no-introductions-required Gerry Hassan. You can watch it via the tweet below.
"Absolutely gutted depressed. Hate it."
— Al Jazeera English (@AJEnglish) February 2, 2020
What does it mean for the UK to leave the EU after 47 years of membership? We speak to Remainers and Brexiters. pic.twitter.com/79E5jcCY4m
Saturday, February 1, 2020
Scot Goes Pop poll update
Just another quick update for the people who contributed to the crowdfunder for this blog's forthcoming poll on independence. The fieldwork has now been completed, and I've been given a tentative indication of the likely result on the main question. But I'm not going to drop any hints at all, because it's provisional and may change. I should have the full results by Monday at the latest, and then I'll probably drip-feed them to you over a few days.
Meanwhile, I have an article in today's edition of The National expressing my scepticism about the ultra-cautious approach set out by Nicola Sturgeon yesterday. You can read it HERE.
Meanwhile, I have an article in today's edition of The National expressing my scepticism about the ultra-cautious approach set out by Nicola Sturgeon yesterday. You can read it HERE.
Friday, January 31, 2020
It gives me no pleasure to say this, but a major strategic error has just been made
I only caught the last few seconds of that, but it sounded like Nicola Sturgeon has firmly chosen the Andrew Wilson magical thinking approach of "persuade and the obstacle will somehow vanish by some unspecified means"? If so, I have to be honest and say that's a mistake.— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) January 31, 2020
Rule No 1: It is impossible, literally *impossible* to be sure of a win before a referendum is called. The really big changes in public opinion (in whatever direction they occur) will happen once the campaign is underway.— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) January 31, 2020
Compared to the 2014 campaign, 51-49 is in "beyond wildest dreams" territory as a starting point. Are we really waiting for unachievable levels of support (like 60% or 67%) before doing anything? If so, the leadership have given up on independence. They just don't know it yet.— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) January 31, 2020
You're missing the point. If we're "learning the lesson from David Cameron" that polls can be wrong, that's an argument for saying we shouldn't call a referendum even if we're 20, 30, 40 points ahead. In other words we can never do it.— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) January 31, 2020
Oh for heaven's sake. There's nothing "illegitimate" about legislating for a referendum and then allowing the Supreme Court to decide whether it can take place.— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) January 31, 2020
Her tone was entirely off caution is fine (up to a point) if you sound convincingly like trying to push things forward. Nicola missed the target today.— Chris ward (@rampitchfork) January 31, 2020
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I have more analysis of yesterday's sensational YouGov poll in an article at The National - you can read it HERE.
Thursday, January 30, 2020
Drama as YouGov poll shows a pro-independence majority
The first post-election poll on independence has been published, and it suggests that the long-anticipated (but highly elusive) swing to Yes by Remainers who voted No in 2014 may have finally taken place on a really telling scale.
Should Scotland be an independent country? (YouGov, 22nd-27th January 2020):
Should Scotland be an independent country? (YouGov, 22nd-27th January 2020):
Yes 51% (+7)
No 49% (-7)
Bear in mind that YouGov have in recent years been one of the most No-friendly firms, so it shouldn't be assumed that 51% is as good as it's going to get for Yes - it's conceivable that other firms will show something a little better, but we'll have to wait and see. On the other hand, the 7% swing to Yes may be a touch exaggerated, because the previous YouGov poll looks very much like an outlier in retrospect - it showed a sharp dip in the Yes vote that wasn't picked up by other pollsters. But it seems highly probable that YouGov's new numbers are reflecting some sort of genuine swing on the ground - 49% was the highest Yes vote they reported last year, and they haven't shown an outright Yes lead since 2015.
An intriguing supplementary question attempts to measure the depth of both support for and opposition to independence, and finds that absolutely definite Yes and No voters are tied on 35% apiece. For my money that's a highly encouraging finding, because there's always a danger that a sudden swing might be based on rather shaky foundations. That doesn't appear to be the case here - there's no longer any underlying 'natural majority' for No.
The unionist parties will of course ignore the headline result on independence and point to the finding that a majority are opposed to holding an independence referendum this year. But the snag is that 44% are in favour of holding a referendum within the next five years (ie. within the next Holyrood parliamentary term) and only 39% are opposed. With Don't Knows excluded, that's a pro-referendum majority of around 53% to 47%. Given that the Tory government take the extremist and ludicrous line that no referendum can be held until after Nicola Sturgeon's death (which could potentially mean another fifty years of delay!), it's safe to say that the public are a lot, lot closer to the SNP's view on referendum timing than they are to the Tories' view.
Thoughtful Scottish Tory MSPs (if such a thing exists) will be deeply concerned that this poll shows they are about to make an error of historic proportions by confirming Jackson Carlaw as their official leader. It looks like he can't be absolved of blame for the election disaster last month - he has a dismal net personal rating of -29, which is 29 points worse than Nicola Sturgeon's and almost as bad as Richard Leonard's. (Yes, it's that bad.)
From a personal point of view, I breathed a sign of relief when I read through the list of questions that YouGov asked. As you know, this blog will be publishing a poll in the very near future, and I was slightly concerned that there might be a significant amount of overlap between YouGov's questions and the ones that I asked. But as it turns out, there's no real duplication at all, except on the independence question itself. (Unless of course YouGov have a second batch of questions that they haven't released yet, but time will tell.)
Bear in mind that YouGov have in recent years been one of the most No-friendly firms, so it shouldn't be assumed that 51% is as good as it's going to get for Yes - it's conceivable that other firms will show something a little better, but we'll have to wait and see. On the other hand, the 7% swing to Yes may be a touch exaggerated, because the previous YouGov poll looks very much like an outlier in retrospect - it showed a sharp dip in the Yes vote that wasn't picked up by other pollsters. But it seems highly probable that YouGov's new numbers are reflecting some sort of genuine swing on the ground - 49% was the highest Yes vote they reported last year, and they haven't shown an outright Yes lead since 2015.
An intriguing supplementary question attempts to measure the depth of both support for and opposition to independence, and finds that absolutely definite Yes and No voters are tied on 35% apiece. For my money that's a highly encouraging finding, because there's always a danger that a sudden swing might be based on rather shaky foundations. That doesn't appear to be the case here - there's no longer any underlying 'natural majority' for No.
The unionist parties will of course ignore the headline result on independence and point to the finding that a majority are opposed to holding an independence referendum this year. But the snag is that 44% are in favour of holding a referendum within the next five years (ie. within the next Holyrood parliamentary term) and only 39% are opposed. With Don't Knows excluded, that's a pro-referendum majority of around 53% to 47%. Given that the Tory government take the extremist and ludicrous line that no referendum can be held until after Nicola Sturgeon's death (which could potentially mean another fifty years of delay!), it's safe to say that the public are a lot, lot closer to the SNP's view on referendum timing than they are to the Tories' view.
Thoughtful Scottish Tory MSPs (if such a thing exists) will be deeply concerned that this poll shows they are about to make an error of historic proportions by confirming Jackson Carlaw as their official leader. It looks like he can't be absolved of blame for the election disaster last month - he has a dismal net personal rating of -29, which is 29 points worse than Nicola Sturgeon's and almost as bad as Richard Leonard's. (Yes, it's that bad.)
From a personal point of view, I breathed a sign of relief when I read through the list of questions that YouGov asked. As you know, this blog will be publishing a poll in the very near future, and I was slightly concerned that there might be a significant amount of overlap between YouGov's questions and the ones that I asked. But as it turns out, there's no real duplication at all, except on the independence question itself. (Unless of course YouGov have a second batch of questions that they haven't released yet, but time will tell.)
Tuesday, January 28, 2020
First post-election YouGov subsample has the SNP at a heady 50% of the vote
The first post-election YouGov poll of GB-wide voting intentions has been published, which is significant for us because YouGov appear to be the only firm that structure and weight their Scottish subsamples separately. The figures are therefore the first proper clue about what a full-scale Scottish poll will show - although they can only be a very vague clue, because the small sample size means there's a large margin of error.
SNP 50%, Conservatives 27%, Labour 13%, Liberal Democrats 6%, Greens 2%, Brexit Party 1%
If those figures turn out to be in the right ball-park (and that's still a big "if"), it would bear out my theory of the other day that both the SNP and the Scottish Tories will enjoy a post-election honeymoon, with the Tories deriving their boost from the election result south of the border, and with their extra support taken from other unionist parties.
And if full-scale polls show a similar increase in support for the SNP, there may be two distinct factors behind it. One would be a genuine change in public opinion on the ground, but the other will be methodological changes that correct for the underestimation of the SNP in the run-up to the election. YouGov have attached a methodological note explaining that 2017 past vote weighting has been replaced with 2019 past vote weighting, and that demographic weighting has been updated as well.
71% of the Scottish subsample think that Britain was wrong to leave the EU, and only 26% think Brexit is right. That's a bigger majority than usual, which may indicate that the subsample is a bit too "Remainy", and that may in turn cast a little doubt on the voting intention numbers. But at the same time it's encouraging, because the Yes movement desperately needs to ensure that the public don't "move on" from Brexit (whereas the British establishment, from Boris Johnson all the way through to the BBC and the Sun, will be trying to achieve the opposite effect and get us to accept Brexit as an unchangeable historical fact as soon as humanly possible).
SNP 50%, Conservatives 27%, Labour 13%, Liberal Democrats 6%, Greens 2%, Brexit Party 1%
If those figures turn out to be in the right ball-park (and that's still a big "if"), it would bear out my theory of the other day that both the SNP and the Scottish Tories will enjoy a post-election honeymoon, with the Tories deriving their boost from the election result south of the border, and with their extra support taken from other unionist parties.
And if full-scale polls show a similar increase in support for the SNP, there may be two distinct factors behind it. One would be a genuine change in public opinion on the ground, but the other will be methodological changes that correct for the underestimation of the SNP in the run-up to the election. YouGov have attached a methodological note explaining that 2017 past vote weighting has been replaced with 2019 past vote weighting, and that demographic weighting has been updated as well.
71% of the Scottish subsample think that Britain was wrong to leave the EU, and only 26% think Brexit is right. That's a bigger majority than usual, which may indicate that the subsample is a bit too "Remainy", and that may in turn cast a little doubt on the voting intention numbers. But at the same time it's encouraging, because the Yes movement desperately needs to ensure that the public don't "move on" from Brexit (whereas the British establishment, from Boris Johnson all the way through to the BBC and the Sun, will be trying to achieve the opposite effect and get us to accept Brexit as an unchangeable historical fact as soon as humanly possible).
Sunday, January 26, 2020
Mid-Galloway and Wigtown West by-election
No polls overnight as far as I can see, but I realised I had completely overlooked the first Scottish local by-election to be held since the general election.
Mid-Galloway and Wigtown West by-election:
SNP 25.5% (+1.9)
Greens 6.4% (+4.2)
Labour 6.3% (-0.6)
At first glance that looks like an absolutely terrifying result, but it makes much more sense once you realise that independent candidates took 28% of the vote in the ward last time around, and those votes had to go somewhere because there weren't any independents standing this time. In Dumfries and Galloway, people who vote for independent candidates are often Tory voters in other circumstances, so that will account for most or all of the huge boost in the Tory vote.
A 2% increase in the SNP vote can at best be described as "OK", given that the change is measured from 2017, when the SNP were doing significantly less well than at last month's general election. But perhaps they were hampered in this by-election by the modest success of the Greens.
The result is an indication that the Tory honeymoon effect isn't necessarily stopping at the border, and given the reach of the London media in Scotland, we shouldn't really have expected it to. It may seem ironic in the wake of the Scottish Tories losing half their seats, but it's quite possible that the next Scottish poll will see an increase in the Tory vote - although if that does happen I would expect it to be largely at the expense of other unionist parties.
Saturday, January 25, 2020
Poll/crowdfunder update
So just a very quick update for the 349 people who have between them contributed an amazing £6186 to help Scot Goes Pop commission an opinion poll on independence. I haven't been idle on your behalf, and I think I've now got things more or less sorted. If everything goes to plan, I should have some results for you within around 7-10 days.
I now think it's highly unlikely that our poll will be the first post-election poll on independence - a number of people who are members of online polling panels have mentioned being surveyed over the last couple of weeks. With the Sunday papers appearing tonight, we might even see the first poll (perhaps even the first couple) within a few hours. However, I think a Scot Goes Pop poll is still a very worthwhile exercise. Different polls produce different results, and the more independence polls there are, the better idea we'll have of how the Yes campaign is faring in the post-election environment. And there's particular value in asking our own supplementary questions, because the mainstream media outlets who usually commission polls have their own preoccupations, and those are reflected in the questions that are asked.
Monday, January 20, 2020
Could excessive timidity lead to us squandering a golden opportunity to win independence?
It seems to me that the rhetoric of the "caution" faction within the SNP is aimed more at changing the behaviour of Yes supporters than of the UK government. Essentially the intention is to put Yes supporters into a kind of trance by insistently and repeatedly saying: "Stop asking how the SNP are going to bring the promised referendum about, those are bad thoughts. Instead, try to grow support for independence, that would be a good thought". It's not really working, partly because people have minds of their own and their preoccupations can't be so easily directed from on high, but mostly because there's such an obvious flaw in the "grow support for independence and don't worry your pretty little heads about process" schtick. It would all be so much more persuasive if there was a concrete plan for bringing about an indyref (with or without a Section 30) once that greater Yes support has been achieved, but in place of that plan is magical thinking, ie. "the UK government's position will prove to be unsustainable once we have overwhelming support, you'll see".
There's actually quite a strong case to be made that higher percentage support for Yes in the opinion polls would make the UK government even more intransigent, not less so. That could be especially true if the Tories remain in power indefinitely. If they had stayed in power after 1997, they would never have granted devolution, or a devolution referendum, in spite of the fact that support for a Scottish Parliament was running at 70-80% in the polls. (And yet I'm sure there would have been people chanting the mantra of "this is totally unsustainable!")
It remains to be seen how much influence the caution faction has with the SNP leadership, but until that becomes clear, all that the rest of us can do is continue making the counter-argument as forcefully and respectfully as we can.
There's actually quite a strong case to be made that higher percentage support for Yes in the opinion polls would make the UK government even more intransigent, not less so. That could be especially true if the Tories remain in power indefinitely. If they had stayed in power after 1997, they would never have granted devolution, or a devolution referendum, in spite of the fact that support for a Scottish Parliament was running at 70-80% in the polls. (And yet I'm sure there would have been people chanting the mantra of "this is totally unsustainable!")
It remains to be seen how much influence the caution faction has with the SNP leadership, but until that becomes clear, all that the rest of us can do is continue making the counter-argument as forcefully and respectfully as we can.
In reality, when you're approaching a strategic crossroads, that's exactly the moment to speak up. There's not much point in remaining silent until just *after* the die is cast.https://t.co/TjOPRS6LAz— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) January 18, 2020
We do need to win. But we don't need to win "big". That's the red herring in Andrew's narrative (which is, presumably, a tacit call for indefinite delay).https://t.co/2ifA1vMf8X— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) January 19, 2020
If the Lib Dems are crazy enough to urge their supporters to abstain in a legal referendum, that should not deter the SNP from holding one. Rather the reverse. A majority Yes vote might not resolve matters, but it would self-evidently be a leap forward.https://t.co/HlZaYzCCfq— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) January 20, 2020
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