Wednesday, March 27, 2024

It's Wednesday, so the Express must be lying about Scottish opinion polling again

A query on the previous thread - 

"Rob here, seen on another site best not named, 'New poll suggests the SNP will only win 18 seats and lose 30.'

Actual "new poll"?"

Well, the only mention I could find of it on a news site was at the Express, so that probably answers the question.  The Express have such an extreme track record of inaccuracies and distortions in their reporting of Scottish opinion polling that I actually achieved the impossible last year by getting a complaint upheld against them by the sham "press regulator" IPSO.  On that occasion, they had been trawling Twitter in the desperate hope of finding anything they could use for an anti-independence article, and it looks like the same thing has happened again this time.  When I searched for some of the details of the supposed "poll" on Twitter, I traced it back to a single tweet from some random bloke who had taken the numbers of a GB-wide YouGov poll and on his own initiative punched them into the Electoral Calculus model.  In other words, the entire Express article appears to have been based on a small Scottish subsample with an enormous margin of error, not on a full poll. But needless to say that is never really made clear.

That's probably misleading enough to warrant a complaint to IPSO, as is the fact that the subsample is wrongly described by the Express as an "Electoral Calculus poll".  Having been royally mucked around by IPSO on multiple occasions, though, I'll need to have a think about whether I can face yet another round.  If anyone else fancies taking it on, let me know.

The Express piece is weirdly meandering - for no apparent reason it suddenly jumps halfway through to the subject of a completely unrelated poll from four months ago, and dredges up an ancient quote from Professor Robert Ford about that other poll.  I doubt if 99.9% of people who read the piece will have had a scooby what it was all about.

36 comments:

  1. Express is genuinely like an AI unionist troll and has been for a while.

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  2. I used to like the Express. Dennis the Menace and the Bash Street Kids were my favourite columns. Sad to hear it's gone infantile.

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    1. They'd need to bring back Giles cartoons.

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  3. My favourite Express section is "That's my Coat!" where celebrities have to guess which coat belongs to which celebrity. Sometimes two or three celebrities have the same coat! Wow!! And double wow!!! That's what I call news... Best newspaper in the universe. Three and x forgiven (NIW]

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  4. Baroness Ruth (Who?) McDavidsMarch 28, 2024 at 2:19 AM

    Philip Scofield has the same hoodie as Dr Saj!!!

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  5. It would be realistic to see a fall in seat numbers as it was an abnormal election in 2019. Humza should not be asked to step aside if seats fall for this very reason. Congratulations
    to Humza Yousaf
    on an excellent first year as FM, providing the leadership that Scotland needs. Humza has been a very worthy successor to Nichola.

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    1. Ha!

      Will you say the same when he loses Holyrood?

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    2. Who's Nichola?

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    3. Nicholas Sturgeon? Ah, it all makes sense now…

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    4. Numpty at 6.56am - " it was an abnormal election in 2019." what was abnormal about the 2019 election that was so important to artificially inflate SNP votes?

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  6. Rob here, thanks for the response, sorry that involved The Express.

    To balance the input from the anonymous Pollyanna above, although my next vote will likely be for the SNP, I will punch the air at each and every reverse, embarrassment and blow that befalls the "continuity" SNP and its front man until it's back in Independence-supporting hands.

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    1. The SNP have consistently been seen to support Independence from Nicola Sturgeon to Humza Yousef.

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    2. Sorry. Yousaf.

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    3. I was just reflecting yesterday on how lucky we were to have Nichola Sturgeon as a leader and how well Humza has done to succeed her. Usually it is very difficult to follow a major political figure. Considering this, Humza has done it with great aplomb.

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    4. Sorry, Nicola.

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    5. Grass roots astroturf much, typo man?

      If Humza weren’t failing, there would be no need to blow smoke. His polls don’t lie. He may even beat Swinney as the SNP’s worst leader in the devolution era.

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    6. There is absolutely no call whatever for negative words about John Swinney who has served the SNP with dedication over a lifetime. He deserves praise not negative words.

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    7. At last no spelling mistakes! Must do better if you're going to pretend to be different posters in future.

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    8. John REDACTOR MAN Swinney served Sturgeon in covering up her wrongdoings. The only people that benefitted from her being in charge of the SNP were her gang members and the British state.

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    9. Too negative. Nicola was and remains an enormous asset to the SNP.

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    10. @Astroman

      John Swinney led the SNP to lose seats in both UK (-1) and Scottish (-8) parliaments, and he refused to resign once he'd accomplished that. He was subsequently forced out by the "men in grey kilts". The was the very definition of a shite leader.

      Humza may well have him beat. Let's see what happens in the coming WM general.

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    11. @10:23

      Nicola certainly remains an enormous asset to someone.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_(intelligence)

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    12. Nicola certainly helped herself to some enormous assets of the SNP. Campervan anyone?

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    13. The thing that stings about that campervan is the two of them didn't even take it out and about to enjoy it. If they'd just gone off on a camping holiday in Portugal or wherever no one would recognise her, you could understand its purpose. But instead it was just sitting there, losing value every day, for no purpose whatsoever.

      If she'd just bought 100k of jewellery at least that would have held its value better. Maybe even shoes!

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    14. As the world's leading expert on both of them, I can definitively say that Hamza Yousef and Nichola Strugeahn are easily the best party leaders in the history of the galaxy.

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    15. I have heard impressive things about Empress Xinlub of Kau-Epsilon III, whose magnificent return to power as an anarcho-syndalicalist in the Ai'Chai Rebellion was a true moment for the history books. But you are quite right, her exploits were in the galaxy of Andromeda, so needn't shine on Nicola's blinding magnificence in pish.

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    16. On a serious note the investment in the campervan was made to facilitate SNP (and thus independence) campaigning at the time of the global corona virus pandemic. However, it was not needed in the end because restrictions could be lifted due to effective government policies. As such it was parked in a location that did not necessitate storage costs to be paid. There is nothing of concern as regards the campervan.

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    17. Anon at 11.54am - you can repeat that same pish over and over but nobody with half a brain believes it.

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    18. That campervan alone may well lose them 10 seats in this election. It's such a perfect visual for sleaze and incompetence. It'll be on Labour's posters!

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    19. Got a leaflet from Labour today and one of its main points criticising SNP failures was " Mired in Scandals" - Now SNP numpties will say it is all made up British state lies. The truth is that it is the husband and wife team that was at the top of the SNP who gave them all the ammunition they needed. Yet numpties still worship Sturgeon and her disappearing husband.

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    20. Anon 11:54 On a serious note, nobody with half a brain believes that fairy tale. If you do, you're more to be pitied than laughed at.

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  7. I wonder if Yousaf will be proudly launching the Glen Rosa next month, just as Sturgeon did with Glen Sannox six and a half years ago!
    Will it even be launched next month?
    Have the bridge windows been fitted yet?
    Interesting times!

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    1. There is absolutely no call whatever for negative words about the ferries which have served the SNP with dedication over a Save Our Souls!

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    2. I shouldn't have put the comic "glug glug glug" within angle brackets in that sentence. Blogger treats them as hidden HTML tags instead of words. Should stick to safe emoji. 🙄

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