I haven't watched any TV news over the last few days, so my main knowledge of the McGill's meltdown comes indirectly from social media, but I've just watched a full three-minute report from STV News on the subject that was posted on Twitter. To say I'm astounded by how shoddy it is would be an understatement. At the outset it states that John Swinney announced at the SNP conference that the bus network would be "nationalised" by 2031. But he didn't, did he? Personally I wish he had done, but what he actually said was that the bus network would be brought under public *control* by 2031 by means of franchising and regulation. That falls well short of nationalisation, because bus services will still be provided by private operators - almost certainly including McGill's themselves, unless they take their ball away in a huff and decline to apply for any of the franchises.
But it seems that STV felt they had to falsely use the word "nationalisation" to prevent the comment from a McGill's spokesman, which they showed a few seconds later, from looking totally unhinged. The McGill's claim was that the government was going to "take their business away without recompense", which is what "Third World dictators do", because Third World dictators "confiscate property, they confiscate assets". The thing is, though, that it's not STV's job to make bonkers comments by billionaire businessmen look saner by fibbing to their viewers about the basic facts - indeed, their job should be to actively draw attention to the gulf between factual reality and the McGill's claim, and to challenge the McGill's spokesman on that gulf.
Where, for example, did he get the idea that the company's property and assets would be confiscated? That could only happen under full nationalisation, and probably wouldn't happen even then. And how on earth did he make the even more extreme jump to claiming that McGill's property and assets would be confiscated "without recompense"? If nationalisation and confiscation was occurring, there would be an announcement at some point about whether compensation was being offered, but as nationalisation and confiscation are not occurring, no such announcement has been made and no such announcement will be made. The McGill's spokesman was, in a nutshell, lying, and STV allowed him to do it completely unchallenged.
It should certainly have been pointed out to him that Robert Mugabe did not exactly offer a "franchising" system to wealthy farmers and landowners in Zimbabwe, and that what is being proposed for buses in Scotland is actually the sort of thing western democracies do all the time (not least in London and Manchester) and is very much the sort of thing a Third World dictator would not do. I'd also like to have seen him asked why such extreme Thatcherites as the Easdale brothers, who apparently regard franchising and regulation as tantamount to communism, have donated so generously to the Labour party, and what that says about the true underlying nature of Labour in Scotland.
STV have always had their faults, but I just feel that twenty or thirty years ago they would never have put out quite such a sloppy report. Bernard Ponsonby certainly would never have put his name or voice to something so poor. Have STV just totally lost interest? All they seem to care about these days is lazily slapping their own logo onto ITV network programming - even in situations that are crying out for opt-out presentation, like Six Nations matches or Scotland games at the World Cup, they don't bother and just take the ITV feed unchanged. The only programmes they actually make themselves are the bare minimum of one local news programme and one current affairs show - and arguably they now even fall short of that bare minimum, because Ofcom have disgracefully allowed them to merge the STV Central and STV North news services. A regulator worth its salt would never have given the nod to that, because Central and North are separate ITV franchises, and a dedicated news service for each franchise area is supposed to be a requirement.
I walked past both the BBC Scotland and STV buildings in Glasgow a few weeks ago, and I noticed that the logo on the STV building now reads "STV Radio". Do they now see themselves as primarily a radio station, with the sticking-STV-branding-onto-ITV-network-programmes side of the business as nothing more than a nice little side-earner?
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In a column lauded to the skies by far-right blogger RevStew (I'm no longer going to put any caveats or qualifiers on the "far-right" descriptor, because Stew is now an outspoken supporter of public executions, for pity's sake), the Herald's Mark Smith imagined he had dreamt up an ingenious Gotcha by mocking Jenny Gilruth for pointing out that "Number 10 North" is in the southern half of the UK when she presumably doesn't want a "Number 10 North" to be based anywhere. So let me get this straight, Mark - we would have to support the principle of "Number 10 North" before we are allowed to point out the patently obvious absurdity of it being based in the south? Does that mean you have to actively support SNP policies before you're allowed to mock the details of them? Presumably that's how it works. You made the rules, Mark, and now you're going to have to stick to them.
YouGov Westminster voting intention field work 18 - 19 Oct, population sample 2,520.
ReplyDeleteHeadline: Labour 4% lead over Tories (+3).
Lab 27% (+3), Con 23% (n/c), RefUK 22% (+1), LibDem 11% (-1), Green 10% (-1).
Scottish sub sample (219)
Con 10%, Lab 23%, LibDem 8%, SNP 26%, RefUK 19%, Green 11%.
Electoral Calculus prediction model with Scottish finesse.
Labour 22 seats short of majority.
Lab 304, Con 180, RefUK 74, LibDem 50, SNP 15, Plaid 5, Green 3, other 1.
26% is excellent for the SNP.
DeleteAfternoon, KC.
DeleteIs this poll correct because if it is it’s bloody disaster for the SNP
DeleteA testament to the stewardship and steady hand of John Swinney. The Captain really has set the ship on a winning course. That’s almost double our current haul of MPs. Independence is all but assured. Freedom by the end of the decade.
Delete15 MPs would be a fantastic result for the SNP. A great platform to build momentum from.
DeleteYouGov???
DeleteIn relation to Scotland???
Really???
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Anon 3.50. Way too obvious. Lol. Good fun though
Delete"Is this poll correct because if it is it’s bloody disaster for the SNP"
DeleteWhat d'you mean "correct"? It's a real poll, but it's also a YouGov subsample, which has a margin of error of +/-10 points, so the chances that it's spot-on accurate are very slim.
McGill's run a very good bus service.
ReplyDeleteIf the status quo was that great, nobody would be even suggesting reform.
DeleteI agree. McGills , where I live anyway, are excellent. If it aint broke don’t fix it
DeleteBillionaires are Brilliant! Nothing to see here!
DeleteSome of us rely on buses and don't want to lose them for the sakes of some anti "Billionaires are Brilliant!" far left extremism by people who never have to use them.
DeleteDon't worry, we always knew you were a Tory.
DeleteIn the real world, public control will of course expand the current bus service, which is inadequate.
Anon at 6:13 PM
DeleteWe always knew you were a plonker.
I moved to a rural part of Clackmannanshire 15 years ago when there were 2 bus services that ran pretty regularly along our part of the A91. There are now none at all so as far as I and our community are concerned the current service is indeed broke!
Delete1.37 Just like they ran their favourite football team?
DeleteThere was a good article about Spittal of Glenshee where I used to have a customer till they burnt down. No buses, but then Ember started a daily service and it's great, made a big difference.
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The problem is Swinney made his big conference announcement without consultation, and not in Parliament, which for some reason all party leaders think is acceptable behaviour in a so-called democracy.
If they can protect McGill's large and continual investment, while helping provide bus cover where it isn't now - like parts of Clackmannanshire as you would like, and maybe better co-ordinated through services, then it would get my vote.
A hybrid policy; reward and long regulated guarantees for good operators even if they are Labour funders, and support for providing an overall service (in replacement for the good old post bus perhaps).
If only Carlsberg made politicians. Or at least, Caley 80.
Anon at 9:55 PM
DeleteWe were talking about buses ...
10.05 Yes McGills buses owned by the sleazy Easdale brothers and former directors of a sleazy Govan football team!
DeleteAnon at 3:20 AM
DeleteSo you've no genuine interest in buses or the people like me who use them, you're just an empty coat.
Marc Smith isn’t the sharpest. Will he now realise what a tit he has made of himself? Probably not.
ReplyDeleteGoogle Peter Boghossian to get the bigger picture of what’s happening in Europe.It isn’t a great watch
ReplyDeleteJames, have you heard back yet about the SNP internal committee elections? Somebody mentioned on the previous thread that the results have been announced but I haven't been aware of anything.
ReplyDeleteThe new NEC was announced but not the rest.
DeleteThat's correct, the NEC and office bearer results were announced by Angela Constance on the final day of conference, but to the best of my knowledge the others have yet to be announced.
DeleteThe bus network is under public *control* already.
ReplyDeleteNope.
DeleteI suspect the devolution replY is "yes it is under public control ". But the exercise of these powers is mostly hands off (light touch):
Delete"The majority of bus services in Scotland are operated on a commercial basis by private bus companies. Provided that an operator registers a service with the Office of the Traffic Commissioner [for Scotland] they can operate any route they wish to any timetable."
https://www.transport.gov.scot/public-transport/buses/bus-policy-and-guidance/
Perhaps some more control of routes and timetables - but with a lot of consultation first with the actual operators - and passengers. But people who never use our buses like McGill's and know nothing, should awa bile their heids, or we'll punch their tickets twice.
There seems to be "Best Practice Guidance", but perhaps this needs to be tightened up and made obligatory rather than "best practice".
And that's all I have to say about THAT.
Note the dates on those things though, for instance "[background] On 31 July 2015 ...". If it's all as out of date as that implies, there's some serious work needed to be done by Transport Scotland to get its act together. And of course:
Delete"While the bus service registration regime in Scotland generally works well, the Scottish Government considers that there are a number of areas where there is room for improvement"
Well? How's that going then?
And one more for luck. Every single government webpage should have a date of publication on it, plus date last updated. 'Tinternet is supposed to be about Information.
DeleteI noticed that the BBC kept referring to “ nationalising the buses” in Scotland. Accidental, stupidity or deliberate by the BBC? Probably deliberate.
ReplyDeleteAny English organisation masquerading as British can always turn to Scotland if they need to make cuts. BBC Scotland is being done away with only 7 years after its introduction by the English BBC.
It will not be missed.
DeleteThe BBC is British!
DeleteBull Brit Crap!
DeleteWhy on earth does Mairi McAllan say it is wholly unacceptable for BBC Scotland to move to online only? Is she a bit slow?
ReplyDeleteObviously, without the drip feed of BBC propaganda Scotland will be more open to the prospect of real change.
Olly because people in Scotland pay the same licence fee as they do in England therefore if they are moving it to digital why should Scotland (the people that still watch it, that is) still have to pay?
DeleteIt is because she is MI6??????
Delete1.52 Bollocks, take the tin foil hat off!
Delete3.22 No need to swear.
DeleteI doubt very much that MM is a spook. She's just not strongly pro independence like most SNP politicians.
7.10 “Bollocks” is a perfectly legally good word to use in this instance, hardly swearing. In November 1977, Virgin Records store manager Christopher Seale was put on trial at Nottingham Magistrates’ Court for displaying the Sex Pistols album Never Mind the “Bollocks” Here's the Sex Pistols. Defence barrister John Mortimer won an acquittal by proving the word was an old term meaning "nonsense" or historical clerical titles rather than an illegal obscenity. You are easily offended by a perfectly descriptive word! The SNP are quite literally pro Scottish Independence, it is and has been in their manifesto since day one of the party!
Delete'The BBC is BWITISH I tell you'.
ReplyDelete'NEVER SCOTTISH.....ALWAYS BWITISH!!!'
'BWITISH BWITISH BWITISH' 😂😂😂🙄🙄🙄
Good grief
ReplyDeleteIt's not only STV news that looks like it was produced as a school project. Does STV still make other programmes? The abject amateurish nature of BBC broadcasts from Scotland scream yokelish parochialism. Good riddance to BBC Scotland. If only BBC News (Scotland) were following it down the pan! Compared to the news broadcasts from other countries, the trash on BBC is more like entertainment for people asleep.
ReplyDeleteIsn't it time to close down BBC operations in this country and use the money raised here to fund a broadcaster not beholden to the authorities.
What nonsense!
DeleteFar from it. Have you ever watched Reporting Scotland? Does anybody?
DeleteWhat’s wrong with Reporting Scotland?
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DeleteWhat's right with it?
Donnie, I agree with you completely!
DeleteExcellent comment and 100% correct
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, one for KC:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.snp.org/how-independent-ireland-shows-scotland-the-eu-future-it-deserves/
'A Glasgow man with alleged links to a loyalist paramilitary group offered to arrange murders for money while having connections to Britain’s anti-migrant protest movement, an Al Jazeera investigation has claimed.
ReplyDeleteThe investigation – Contract Killers and the Far Right – centres on Allan Nesbitt, a convicted criminal from Glasgow who Al Jazeera says has links to the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF), a proscribed terrorist organisation.
The investigation claims to expose connections between Nesbitt, the right-wing student movement Turning Point UK and groups involved in recent anti-immigration protests in Britain.'
More Extreme Right Unionist Trash.
Meanwhile in the real world the far left are torching Paris and other major European cities. Has your news channel of choice the unbiased Al Jazeera investigated the said destruction of these European cities. If not, why not because and excuse the pun, it’s the burning issue of the moment. ps, you purchased your Palestine poppy yet for Remembrance Sunday. I’ve not.
DeleteAwww.....and no comment on the Extreme Right Unionist thug above, who, right now, is willing to kill some of your fellow Scots for money?
Delete10.02 allegedly. Allegedly are you a true Scot hater who loves the Palestine flag before the Saltire. I bet you are, allegedly.
DeleteSo, no comment then?
DeleteAs expected.
10.24. Back to Tavistock for you for more realignment. You need a wee tweek on your drugs as your hormones seem a bit all over the place
Delete10.24 you better say allegedly. Don’t want you to get into trouble with the thought police.
DeleteExtreme right wing nutters openly sticking up for an extreme right wing nutter that gets people killed by extreme right wing terrorist nutters.? You couldnae make it up!
DeleteIndependent Irelands population has risen by 1.5 million in 7 years. Why’s that and I don’t think it’s bedroom gymnastics. I voted to remain at the last referendum but looking now at continental Europe I would now vote to stay out.
ReplyDeleteAwww.
ReplyDeleteMissing you already, pal.
From the 6th Report of the Covid Inquiry, released today, specifically looking at the Care Sector -
ReplyDelete'The decision to discharge hospitals patients into care homes at the start of the pandemic was understandable, but guidance should have made clear they needed to be isolated.
THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN ENGLAND, WALES AND NORTHERN IRELAND which was a significant oversight'
Scotland did no better than England during Covid. Some tried to claim we did, but that was most obviously wrong.
DeleteNicola Sturgeon was a good talker, but that’s all she was good at. It was nothing short of disgraceful how she tried to score political points every day at those briefings, trying to make political gain from a tragedy.
This is untrue. Nicola Sturgeon was very good during covid in fact she was cemented in as Scotland's best First Minister.
DeleteAnon at 8.22. The stats make you out to be a liar. There are so many things N S can be criticised for, but you pick one where she can’t. What an idiot.
DeleteSturgeon’s grandstanding during Covid was the sole reason support for independence rose in 2020/21! Thankfully people soon realised what was going on, and support for independence dropped back to normal levels.
DeleteAnon at 9:26 is the idiot, and obviously someone who falls for propaganda easily!
I’m thinking 9:07 is the same gullible fool as 9:26!
DeleteI’m thinking that 11.51 is the same yoon nut that keeps posting yoon nut nuttery!
Delete1:42, nationalist dipstick.
DeleteAnon at 11.48. The stats show you to be a liar. Do you dispute the stats? If so, let’s hear it. Otherwise get back to WOS and give us all peace.
DeleteI repeat, support for independence only rose in 2020/21 because of Sturgeon’s disgraceful grandstanding during Covid, and a lot of people were taken in by the nonsense. It’s an accepted fact, though there are still halfwits that can’t or don’t want to see it.
DeleteAnon at 2.20 Unionist shitstick!
DeleteAnon at 4.26. You are still shown to be a liar. Give up silly billy. Away and practice your drum.
DeleteOf course you did. Silly Billy. Away and practice your drum.
ReplyDeleteToxic Yoon Colonial Media - What did you expect?
ReplyDeleteAye Right!!! Cheerio Mr Trump Mr Putin
ReplyDeleteOf course you did. Yes.
ReplyDeleteGenuinely fantastic news about Jackdaw. Scottish jobs and industry secured for the future. A decision on Rosebank should follow soon, which must surely be a green light too.
ReplyDeleteBouncing this morning.
Don't see how it squares with net zero.
DeleteVery few jobs, and very few of them going to people from Scotland. And the tax take will be seen as generated from down south. Apart from that , yep, great news. Scotland’s assets continue to be pillaged for the benefit of others. Cretin.
DeleteOn Radio 4 they said it would go to a UK sovereign wealth fund.
DeleteJohn Swinney welcomed the blocking of Jackdaw in Feb 2026
DeleteMaybe only 27 direct full time jobs created but the knock on effect in the industry is massive and crucially, it gives global investment confidence that Scottish hydrocarbon extraction is still a viable option in the face of nonsensical net zero policies.
DeleteIt's very good news for a great number of skilled Scots and therefore a big positive for the economy as a whole.
Like I said, bouncing this morning. Now for Rosebank.
...." nonsensical net zero policies..." Oh right. So incinerating the planet is a sensible policy in your view...yes? Arsehole.
DeleteDepends on what expert you listen to. Lots of scientists have conflicting views on climate change
Delete11.37 seems the type who'd rather we all live in Hebridean stone shelters and eat lichen.
DeleteTony Rollo. Give detail on the massive knock on effect. In reality there will be, as always, minimal benefit to Scotland. If you think significant further investment in oil and gas extraction is coming you are delusional.
DeleteThe overwhelming scientific consensus is that the World is warming dangerously and that most of that dangerous warming is man-made mainly through the use of fossil fuels.
DeleteOf course you can find scientists who disagree, but they are in a tiny minority.
As for the 'benefits' of Jackdaw to Scotland, it was announced this morning that the only direct new jobs created will number.......twenty seven.
3.56 Tony already mentioned the 27 jobs above, but you're obviously right about man made global warming.
DeleteI remember reading a précis of a lengthy scientific report in about 2006 which stated at that time that if we made fundamental changes to our way of life we might avoid the worst effects of global warming.
Obviously, we didn't make those changes, not even nearly, and since Trump has been in the White House the situation is markedly worse.
Northern Africa uninhabitable, Southern Europe in perpetual drought, Northern Europe facing climate shift and widespread ecological collapse and the Arctic free of ice. That's all now a certainty.
An independent Scotland would already be self sufficient in renewable electricity. No need for extending oil production. There is of course no real benefit to Scotland from England’s further exploitation of Scotland’s resources.
DeleteEmbarrassing stuff from the anonymous halfwit@4:55pm.
DeleteAn independent Scotland would still be full of Scots burning huge amounts of petrol and diesel and gas.
DeleteAnon at 6.59. Your response to irrefutable facts is so telling. Jog on back to the Daily Mail. Anon at 7.48. Do you have a point to make or did you just want everyone to show everyone how stupid you are? Mission accomplished.
Delete9:26am,
Delete“Irrefutable facts”
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A gullible fool if ever there was one!
You cretins are a tad upset about me voting no in a referendum to rejoin the EU if another referendum happens but have no comment to make about the reasons I have given about changing my vote. That is my democratic choice, or do you disagree and as for banging a drum, nothing could be further from the truth. Idiots
ReplyDeleteGood to see John Swinney firmly slapping down those aggressive bus owners (McCalls).
ReplyDeleteI was in a bus that went from New Key in Corn wall to a village with a funny name and we went in a cafe that had waitresses that took the food to your table and you didn't have to pay for it first and we got talking to a lady that was in France and she had a duck made with oranges or something and her husband asked her if she was wearing her ball gown that night and Gertie looked at me like she didn't believe the lady had a ball gown but I think she did because she was a nice lady and her husband was in the army and they use to hang the mowmows off of lamposts so that would teach them and he said the lankershire lads made the best solders be cause they were all ways hungry and they would fight for money and the jocks were good too but not the glostershire boys or jordies
DeleteZzzzzzzzz.
DeleteA wee bit of common sense prevails at last. Let’s hope it spreads.
ReplyDeleteBbc scotland going online only as well
ReplyDeleteAnon at 9.00. What reasons have you given? A vague reference to looking at Europe? We know you didn’t vote yes last time. Cretin.
ReplyDeleteThe SNP conference went by without Swinney getting booed, and without even James Kelly saying anything about it. In the National it got the same amount of coverage as a public toilet refurbishment scheme. Choose Beige.
ReplyDeleteThe National is still upset that their ALBA pet project failed.
DeleteOr rather, that their current far left Green project is on it's erse.
DeleteI really hope the SNP keeps well clear from these maniacs
DeleteJust as well it didn’t get much coverage since much of it involved indulging the gender brigade and the poorly drafted legislation that have caused the SNP and the Indy movement so much damage in the past five years. Anyone found the 500,000 missing voters yet?
DeleteWho is this we you keep on mentioning and why all the angst from you. I have only one vote the same as you have and what you do with your vote I couldn’t give a monkeys fcuk.
ReplyDeleteNorwegians must laugh at the Scots who think England subsidises us.
ReplyDeleteIcelanders must laugh at the Scots who think England subsidises us.
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