Tuesday, December 10, 2024

Questions for Pat McFadden

The Labour Cabinet minister Pat McFadden was asked on Sky News about Israel's illegal invasion of Syria, and he replied that Israel was "making sure its position in the Golan is secure".  That's a rather startling line of argument, because the Golan Heights is not part of Israel - it's only controlled by Israel because of a previous illegal invasion of Syria during the Six Day War of 1967.  Almost every country in the world continues to recognise the Golan as an integral part of Syria, and the UK is no exception.  So McFadden seems to genuinely believe that the desire to make one illegally occupied part of Syria "secure for Israel" is a perfectly logical and reasonable excuse for illegally invading yet another part of Syria.

McFadden was then asked by Kay Burley whether the UK supported Israel's actions, and he replied "We will always support Israel's right to defend itself and make itself secure".  That's a very clear answer - he had already characterised Israel's invasion as an exercise in "making itself secure", and given that the UK will "always" support any such action, he is therefore inescapably saying that the UK supports Israel's illegal invasion of land that the UK regards as Syrian sovereign territory.

This raises a number of obvious questions - 

1) Given that the Labour leadership characterised 7th October as a Hamas invasion of Israel, and said that Israel had a right to "defend herself" against the invasion, does Syria also have a right to "defend herself" against the Israeli invasion?

2) If not, why not?  Is it because "invasions to feel secure" are in a different category from other types of invasions?  If so, who makes the certification?  Indeed, is it a self-certification process?  Did the invasion become acceptable simply because Israel put out a press release saying they were invading for security?  Isn't that pretty much what Russia did when it invaded Ukraine?

3) Does the Labour blank cheque of "always" supporting invasions to help secure previously conquered territory only apply to Israel, or can other countries benefit from this exciting opportunity?  

4) If it's an Israel-only thing, what can other countries do to become more like Israel and gain similar special privileges?  Perhaps they could install a fugitive from justice, wanted by the world's highest court for war crimes, as their head of government?  Hang on, doesn't that describe Russia again?

5) Come to think of it, if you were trying to work out whether a country's claim to have illegally invaded a neighbouring sovereign state "for security" was a cock-and-bull story or not, wouldn't you normally be inclined to be more sceptical rather than less sceptical if that country happened to be led by a wanted war criminal?

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The US State Department spokesman Matthew Miller is without doubt one of the most preposterous, grotesque figures of the modern age, but even he exceeded himself on the hypocrisy stakes by declaring that it would be good if the International Criminal Court took action against Assad, because the US supports the work of the ICC and it only ever had a dispute with them over "jurisdiction" on the question of the arrest warrant for Netanyahu.  Hmmm.  What Biden actually said about the Netanyahu warrant was that it was "outrageous", and that it implied there was moral equivalence between Israel and Hamas, and that America would always stand with its beloved Bibi.  Yeah, that sounds very much like a minor technical quibble over jurisdiction.

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55 comments:

  1. These are of course the questions he should have been asked on air. Wonder why they were not directly put to him.

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  2. I've lived a long time now but I never thought that i'd see the British oafs outoaf the other oafs across the Atlantic! The hypocrisy is massive and obvious - why do we Scots allow ourselves to be associated with these clowns in Westminster?

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    1. We Scots like all other nations have people with extremist ideas who are attracted to and support extremist politicians. Hopefully more of a minority here than elsewhere but don't pretend we don't have them.

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  3. Do you think crimea should be returned to Ukraine?

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    1. Do you think the people of Crimea have the right to democratic self-determination? A better question, surely? They'd almost certainly choose Russia.

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    2. Maybe -doesn’t give Russia the right to attack Ukraine does it?

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    3. It doesn't give Ant and Dec the right to go shoplifting either. What's your point? Do you have one?

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    4. Who’s ant and Dec?

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    5. Popular entertainers, m'lud.

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  4. - incredible that genocidal monsters via the miracle of PR and psychological operations, transformed themselves into perpetual victims

    https://archive.ph/cMZ4Q
    https://x.com/Palsvig/status/1863882135209115964
    https://archive.ph/Cn22j

    "cries out in pain, even as he strikes you"

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  5. Don't worry, Trump will sort all of this out!

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  6. Well, it seems the SNP will run 2026 on a platform of, errr, "hope".

    "Next Holyrood election about 'hope' and SNP will be ready, says John Swinney"

    https://archive.is/NW2mr

    Well John Swinney he runs a country
    He runs in Edinburgh and the Central Belt
    He makes a few of his party happy oh
    He don't care about the rest at all
    He's got a system they call Devolution
    It keeps a brother in subjection
    But maybe pressure will make John Swinney see
    How everybody could live as Free

    Gimme hope John Swinney
    Hope John Swinney
    Gimme hope John Swinney
    'Fore the morning come
    Gimme hope John Swinney
    Hope John Swinney
    Hope before the Indy come

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    1. We'll have had our de facto referendum then.

      "Yer tea's in the British Bulldog".

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    2. Hope for what? Independence is on the backburner so it can't be that.

      If it's hope for change that might not be the best messaging considering how long the SNP have been in power.

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  7. What is it you do for Independence actually?

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    1. Aha! You're Professor John Robertson, or someone quoting Professor John Robertson. I know this because I saw you bumptiously asking that question of me on your blog Global Ferry News the other day. Let me answer your question directly. What I propose to do for independence is write a series of articles about ferry cancellations in Jamaica, Morocco, Tahiti and the Swiss lakes. I know you agree with me that the road to independence involves bloggers convincing the Scottish public that other countries have worse ferry services than we do.

      Indispensable work.

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    2. The contract to build two ferries was awarded to Fergusons in an attempt by the SNP SG to make political gain, which of course backfired so spectacularly.
      Hundreds of millions in taxpayers money down the drain and years of suffering for islanders.
      Anybody in the Westen Isles who still votes SNP hasn’t got a lot between the ears, to put it mildly.

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    3. I am withdrawing my vessels if SGP is unable to protect them from outside attacks.

      YTI2 Faction

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    4. Bathtub First Sea LardDecember 11, 2024 at 3:10 AM

      That's vassals, Admiral, vassals. Know your place.

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  8. When’s the high speed train to the north coming to Dumfries?

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    1. What’s that got to do with the Scottish ferry scandal?

      Usual nationalist deflection!

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    2. Is the Scandal of the high speed train costing billions of no consequence to you? Is it a British Scandal or an English scandal? We pay for it but no railroad to Scotland or Wales. Isn’t that a scandal? The first ferry will be sailing at least with passengers.
      Still don’t take it from me try CNN https://edition.cnn.com/travel/hs2-britain-expensive-high-speed-railway/index.html
      The little englander railway going nowhere. Brit nats who would trust them?

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    3. Anon at 2.44. You really don’t understand the relevance? Explains a lot. Away back to the Mail and express you cretin.

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    4. You are in the minority Brit nat

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    5. @4:18,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    6. The Unionist group on here clearly not enjoying the SNP being back in business under John Swinney and Yes polling at a record high.

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    7. "A recent poll of polls compiled by Statista"

      It's not a "poll of polls", and it's just one single poll that had that result - way back in September. Why make things up, are you that desperate to try to show your Previous Union in a good light?

      And even in that one single poll, support for your Union was still only 47% with 16% undecided! Not looking good for you is it?

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/1170409/scottish-independence/

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    8. “Previous Union” ??

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    9. It's a skit on Theresa May and her "Precious Union".

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    10. Land o Dope and Tory . Fool Britannia!

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    11. "We pay for it but no railroad to Scotland or Wales."

      Who on earth uses the word "railroad" in this country? Are you American?

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  9. McFadden, Lammy, Starmer and Miller typify the British and American Govts 'exceptionalism' towards Israel.
    They will nod-along (with the occasional innefectual mumblings of disapproval) with EVERYTHING Israel does, no matter how many humanitarian laws and regulations they ignore and how many international laws and rules on the conduct of war they shred.
    Israel could openly use battlefield/tactical nukes and that lot would STILL back Israel's "right to defend itself".
    Labour are now 100% complicit in aiding and abetting Israel's continuing GENOCIDE IN GAZA and its invasion and siezure of other countries' territory.
    Only a matter of time before Labour backs the US as it pressurises the ICC to cancel the warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant.
    What a totally repugnant, repulsive cesspit Labour has now become.

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  10. my neighbours were plotting to kill me (since I forcibly dispossessed the original occupant)

    so I killed them all

    now their children and odd survivors are out there, plotting to kill me too

    I have to defend myself from their violence

    I have an imaginary 3000 year old property deal with beings who don't exist to support me

    oy vey

    I also have the polaroids on a great many western politicians who visited me on fact-finding missions

    my daughter invented the biro

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  11. Meanwhile a strong article from WGD in the National. It's actually two articles in one, the first is the one that criticises the SNP for not going far enough, the second which is the main title, is the usual boring "Labour in Scotland are bad".

    https://archive.is/HlCkJ

    Unlike some of his btl lapdog miniature ankle-lickers, WGD actually does go against the SNP quite a bit - which is the way it should be. People who are generally supportive like him and GMK are the very people from whom directed criticism might have an effect in saving the SNP from annihilation in 2026. From the likes of me, sadly, it's more like the death from a thousand midgie bites. If the SNP don't make Indy GENUINELY front and centre in 2026 they're kaput for a decade or so.

    And a stronger message than normal from me to the SNP apologists - keep wiping the SNP's snotty noses for them and they'll catch pneumonia and Indy will die the death of a thousand munts like you. You are the obstacle to Independence in my lifetime. And yes, I actually live here in Scotland.

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  12. Supporter of Labour in Scotland are you? Ooops. Wee slip of the mask there. It’s a strong article. Only you seem unable to understand that an article can embrace various issues with a central theme. Back to school for you.

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    1. Are you for real? James is a - suspended - member of Alba

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  13. How the hell can a very good thread about the two-faced duplicity and connivance of the Labour UK Govt on the atrocious, warmongering and Genocidal actions of Israel - which continue to cause MASSIVE suffering to tens of thousands of completely innocent women and children - get turned into yet another 'SNP BAAAAD' trope???
    Unbelievable how some folk are SO obsessed with 'SNP Hatred' that every single important topic is twisted and contorted or even ignored, to accommodate their bitter, myopic wee mindset.
    Pathetic gits.

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    1. David, can I suggest you stop trying to be the unofficial moderator on SGP. It’s not your blog.

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    2. I will stop posting my opinions on here, when you do, Robert.
      They are my opinions nothing else.
      Whether you either like them, of want to re-categorise them to suit your own agenda, does not interest me in the slightest.
      Get used to that pal.

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    3. David, I am not saying you should stop posting your views it’s the fact that you want to stop other people posting their views. Disagree with views you don’t like but acting like you are an angry moderator wanting to stop others posting is wrong.

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    4. Oops that’s me Robert Hastie at 6.16pm.

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    5. Wrong, Robert.
      I asked for Anons to be forced to use their name when posting and have criticised others for posting Anti SNP crap on threads which cover entirely different topics.
      I have never asked anyone to stop posting

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    6. I agree with Robert Hastie, and feel David Francis is now beginning to embarrass himself on here. You’d think it was his site the way he’s going on!

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    7. What an anonymous nobody thinks if me is of absolutely no concern.
      I would say your post itself was a total embarrassment to you.......but I have no idea who the hell you are.
      Just another wee anon nobody.

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    8. Whatever whatever.
      Francis knows best!

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  14. Has David Francis replaced IFS as the Mr Angry of SGP?

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  15. How about addressing the points made, you anon nobody?

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    1. Think you just come on here to let off steam.

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  16. You think wanting to talk about Israel and UK Govts backing for their atrocious actions on a thread specifically set up for that, is just 'letting off steam' ?
    Are you that far gone?

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    1. Of course we’d be so much better off if we were independent!

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  17. Where, on this thread, did I mention that?

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