Saturday, September 14, 2024

A guest post by Alan Harris, former elected member of Alba's Disciplinary Committee and Constitution Review Group, on why he was left with "no alternative" but to leave the Alba Party

(Editorial note from James Kelly: I have been asked by Alan Harris to publish his guest post, and the letter within it, in full and unabridged form.  I have agreed to do so.  It is important that Alan has the opportunity to set out the real facts in his own words and without interference from anyone.  However, if anybody from the Alba leadership happens to be passing by, please note that 'full and unabridged' means *exactly* what it says.  What you are about to read are 100% Alan's words, not mine.  The topics and information referred to have been decided upon by Alan, not by me.  Any objections the Alba leadership may have to the contents are therefore not a matter for me and should not be addressed to me.  Many thanks.)


“The candidate who topped the poll (for the Constitution New Review Group) was within a few weeks effectively forced out of the party by some of the most disgraceful behaviour I've ever witnessed.” That person was me. Whilst I don’t completely agree with that statement, I did feel that I was left with no alternative, as I set out in my resignation letter below. James went on to say that “Without that person it was always going to be a much more uphill struggle”. That may have overstated the case, since the prime proponent of the Review Group procedure, Mike Baldry, was still onboard, with James. However, without James as well, and the NEC appointees and others ranged against him, the task Mike Baldry faces becomes Herculean, in my opinion.

Over the past week James has faced a barrage of personal messages and posts on X from Yvonne Ridley. I make no comment on these exchanges, but they have influenced my decision to publish my resignation letter now.

My resignation letter was sent to the Chair who responded by “thanking me for my service to the party, and indeed to our national cause”. Tasmina also thanked me “for so diligently serving our members and myself as Chair, in your additional role as steward at various party events.” I publish those comments not as an exercise in self-aggrandisement; but solely in case anything otherwise is suggested now. When I joined ALBA, I made a personal decision not to use social media for political purposes. I did share my resignation with a few selected friends but I did not publish the letter anywhere at the time, because I regarded it as an internal matter, though I have been falsely accused of a public resignation.

At the Disciplinary Meeting in March that I refer to in my resignation, the then Chair, Marjorie Ellis Thompson, used an unconstitutional procedure and unreasonably, in my opinion, postponed a case against Denise Somerville, which prejudiced the outcome, when the majority (3) of us were of the opinion that she had no case to answer. I will publish a follow up blog about Denise’s unsuccessful Appeal in due course.

Now it seems that James is going to be prosecuted under the same unconstitutional procedure. I make no comment about the rights and wrongs of any potential case against James, lest it prejudice any future appeal. However, this is another reason why I consider it is important that I publish my resignation letter now.

RESIGNATION FROM THE ALBA PARTY 

Dear Tasmina, 

I have been a member of the ALBA Party since my former SNP Kirkintilloch Convener, Delia Henry, joined ALBA and ran for the UK Parliament in 2021. 

I have been Secretary and Treasurer of ALBA East Dunbartonshire since inception in September 2021.

In May 2022, I was privileged to be selected as the ALBA Party candidate for Bishopbriggs North and Campsie in the Local Government Elections. 

I was elected to the Appeals Committee in 2022 but no cases came before the Committee. I was elected to the Disciplinary Committee at Stage 1 in 2023 and I was re-elected in 2024 with the most votes of any candidate. One case was presented to the Disciplinary Committee in 2023. 

At the outset I enquired if there was a Disciplinary Procedure and on being advised that there was not, the then Convener, Hamish Vernal invited me to write one on behalf of the Disciplinary Committee. My credentials were that I had served on the Disciplinary & Membership Committees of the Financial Intermediaries, Managers and Brokers Association (FIMBRA) for 5 years under the Chairmanship of Sir Kenneth Clucas, the first Civil Service Commissioner, Permanent Secretary at two Government Departments and latterly Chairman of the National Association of Citizens Advice Bureaux; the Recorder (Chief Magistrate) of the City of London; and leading barristers. The procedure I wrote went through three revisions and DCv4 was presented to the NEC in May 2023. In an email on the 25 th of July 2023, Hamish advised the Committee members that “The papers that I provided on the Process are now out for consideration to an external source. I outlined our wish, as previously agreed by the Chair, that whatever results from this comes back to the DC for consideration before going to NEC for approval. Thereafter to the October Conference. This process and timescale was (sic) confirmed.” On the 18 th of August 2023 Hamish advised the Committee members that “We are unanimous in our views. I conveyed this in a telephone call to the Party Chair late yesterday afternoon. I reiterated our view, confirmed to me by the Party Chair again, that we wished all documents…..DCv4, NECV6 and Alan’s commentary which we all endorsed….to go to an external lawyer specialising in this area. I was informed that the current version was “sense checked” only (by the General Secretary) and will go to the NEC on Saturday for comment. I expressed our view that we were unanimously unhappy with the current version……we had all expressed our views in writing. Following the NEC all documents including any comment from NEC will then go external to be “legalled”. I have this assurance.” 

Eva Comrie, herself a lawyer and then member of the NEC, has advised me that she did not see this legal advice. Hamish Vernal has advised me that the explanation given to the NEC was that it was too expensive to obtain full legal advice and that he did not see any other version of the Procedure. In addition, Hamish has stated that he was given a further assurance, when remitting office as the Convener of the DC at the December 2023 meeting of the NEC, that the final version would come back to the DC for comment and thereafter the DC version would be “rubber stamped” by the NEC.

Notwithstanding all the foregoing, a new Procedure labelled NECv2 was presented to the Disciplinary Committee as fait accompli in March 2024. In an email to Morgwn Davies and other Committee members on 7 March 2024 the General Secretary said that “The disciplinary policy was approved by the National Executive Committee as they are entitled to do so under 12.1(d) of the constitution… with the requirements of 12.3 to be fulfilled but the policy being deemed constitutional drawing on the rules set out in 12.7”. Furthermore, in a second email to Morgwn on 12 March 2024, the General Secretary said “The final version of the policy was drafted by me upon commission from the NEC. The Disciplinary Policy was agreed by the NEC on 30th September 2023”. If this is true it was unknown to the then Convener of the DC, Hamish Vernal and belies the assurance that he was given by the Chair at the NEC in December 2023. 

At the meeting of the Disciplinary Committee on 20 March 2024, I raised a point of order based on - 

Constitution: 

12.3 All such Rules and Standing Orders shall be submitted to the National Council or Conference for amendment and/or adoption. 

There was a national Conference on 28 October 2023 and National Council meetings on 1 December 2023 and 27 January 2024 but the new procedure was not submitted for approval. 

The General Secretary relied on Constitution 12.7 which gives him the power to “interpret” the Constitution between meetings; but this does not apply because no such Procedure has ever been adopted by National Council or Conference and in any event under 12.5 “This Constitution may not be changed, except by a vote of at least two-thirds of the delegates present and voting at National Conference, or by National Council in relation to a specific matter that National Conference has delegated to National Council.” 

I invited the current Convener of the Disciplinary Committee, Marjorie Thompson, to take advantage of - 

Constitution: 

12.6 Should any question arise regarding the interpretation of the Constitution, Rules or Standing Orders of the Party, the convener of the meeting shall adjudicate on the question and his or her adjudication shall be final, unless a motion is passed requiring the person to vacate the Chair. 

but she made various contradictory pronouncements and the meeting proceeded on the basis of the NECv2 (witness the fact that the Clerk to the Committee, which position has been introduced by NECv2), was in attendance.

The reason for all of this is not hard to understand. The entire Disciplinary Committee in 2023 and every member who has ever expressed an opinion on the subject are unanimous in the view that ALL complaints should be submitted to the Disciplinary Committee for investigation and adjudication.

However, the Constitution [11.6] has been interpreted as meaning that the Disciplinary Committee can ONLY take disciplinary measures against a member on the proposal of the General Secretary; and that the Disciplinary Committee can only investigate a complaint on the proposal of the General Secretary

This is a breach of one of the key principles of natural justice which is that:

* a complainant party is entitled to have its case heard by an unbiased and impartial tribunal 

In effect the rules are being interpreted in a way that means that: 

* the General Secretary is pre-judging complaints which is a second breach of the principles of natural justice. 

Therefore, the Disciplinary Committee (Hamish Vernal, Convener proposing and Alan Harris, member, seconding) proposed to Conference 2023 that: 

A new paragraph 11.6 be inserted: 

The General Secretary will acknowledge receipt of all written or verbal complaints and send full details of the complaint and any associated documents to the party about whom the compliant has been made by email or other electronic means within 7 days of receipt. At the same time, the General Secretary will refer the complaint to the Disciplinary Committee for investigation. 

This and many other motions were not submitted to conference (see below, Constitution New Review Group). 

The NEC v2 re-defines a "complaint" solely as a "proposal by the General Secretary" and appears to exclude any other form of complaint. 

The Constitution at 11.5 demands the immediate referral of suspended members to the DC and that was ignored for 4 weeks, 3 weeks and 10 days respectively.  

In two of the three cases before the Committee last Wednesday, the General Secretary stated that complaints had been submitted against the members concerned: in one case by another member; and in another case by a LACU; but these complaints were not produced in evidence. In one of the cases the member had made a counter complaint but, contrary to precedent that both cases should be heard together, this complaint was not presented to the Committee. In two of the cases, vital evidence in the form of a series of posts on X (formerly Twitter); and emails were omitted from the evidence. In one of the cases the Clerk to the Committee said that the member had not asked to attend the hearing whereas in fact he’d made two such requests and never been given the details. 

It is small wonder that the new Convener has resigned today. 

The one case that was adjudicated by the Disciplinary Committee in May 2023 was immediately appealed despite the fact that the appellant, who was also the defendant, failed to engage with the Committee despite seven emails. The Appeal was not heard for nine months, apparently because there was no procedure; although I wrote an outline procedure which was presented to the NEC at the same time as the appeal was lodged. Not surprisingly the appeal was upheld. 

I was elected to the Constitution New Review Group with almost more first preference votes than the next three candidates put together. 

However, I now find that the powers that be have imposed an unconstitutional procedure on the Disciplinary Committee which enshrines in our rules a procedure that is contrary to natural justice and this has already been implemented to the detriment of two members. That is unacceptable to me. It is clear to me that since this procedure has been imposed there is no chance whatsoever that the leadership will accept the limitation on the General Secretary’s assumed power of veto over complaints, indeed this has now been enhanced. Not only that, but in one of the cases before the Committee last week, the General Secretary actually expressed a view that the Committee should take action against the member and in another he expressed a view on the penalty that should be imposed by the Committee, all of which is wholly improper conduct, presumably endorsed by the Party Chair to whom the General Secretary reports. 

In an email on 4 March 2024, our Leader Alex Salmond stated that "Yvonne Ridley our Women’s Convener is stepping back from her role for a time. Ash Regan MSP ......will step in to lead for the party on this issue in the meantime.  Eva Comrie publicly resigned from ALBA. I regret this and thank Eva for her considerable contribution. Our constitution and rules are clear, however, and subject to NEC approval I have asked Suzanne Blackley, a former Holyrood candidate for ALBA, to serve as our interim Equalities Convener until an election can be held at the next meeting of National Council or at our Annual Conference."

So, there is reference to an election for Equalities Convener but not Women's Convener. However, Morgwn Davies has reported that at their meeting on Wednesday 13 March 2024, Ash "said that she was acting Women's Convener until the next election for that position." And that Yvonne Ridley was free to stand in that election if she so wished. 

1. Therefore, it's clear that both positions are being treated in the same way. 
2. This is confirmed on the ALBA website: Interim National Women’s Convener - Ash Regan MSP; Interim National Equalities Convener - Suzanne Blackley. 
3. Yvonne Ridley is not an elected member of the NEC, she and all other office bearers owe their position to their national offices.
4. Since Yvonne Ridley is not currently the Women’s Convener she cannot be a member of the NEC. 
5. Since Yvonne Ridley is not a member of the NEC she cannot be an NEC delegate to the Constitution New Review Group (CNRG).

Our Constitution and Rules are indeed clear. 

However, the Convener, Hamish Vernal gave an apology for Yvonne Ridley’s absence at the CNRG meeting on 12 March 2024 and it is my understanding that the Party Chair sought to justify this at the NEC meeting on 16 March 2024. 

There is a second aspect to these resignations: 

Constitution: 

8.6 If a National Office Bearer’s post falls vacant before its term, the vacancy shall be filled by National Council in accordance with National Council Standing Orders.  

Annex C - Standing Orders of the National Executive Committee 

12.3 Should a vacancy arise for any elected position on the NEC then the vacancy shall be filled in the first instance by the candidate that finished next in the respective ballot. 

Therefore, Heather McLean who was next in line at the election should have been appointed to replace Yvonne Ridley and Abdul Majid who was the only other candidate, should have been appointed to replace Eva Comrie. 

In the light of all the foregoing I find myself in a dilemma. Hamish, Heather and Daniel Jack were good enough to endorse my candidature for these Committees. And, I am deeply indebted to all the members who put their faith in me by voting me on to these Committees where they expected me to use my experience to fight for justice and constitutional change. On the other hand, how can I continue to sit on these Committees in the face of all of the above breaches of the Constitution and the likelihood of significant change is remote. I stood for good governance and proper procedures. Not only have I failed to deliver but my continued membership of these Committees appears to endorse these malpractices. 

I have concluded that I cannot continue without doing irreparable damage to my integrity and that is not something that I will sacrifice for any organisation. 

Therefore, I have no alternative other than to resign from the ALBA Party with immediate effect. 

Yours sincerely

Alan S Harris 

25 March 2024

85 comments:

  1. It sounds like Conveners Vernal and Thompson were put in an awful position by McEleny and Sheik’s interference in the committees. Committee members put in an impossible situation. What a mess. You’d think Salmond, of all people, would know the importance of complying with procedures, and your own constitution

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  2. What a mess and convoluted shambles how sad it’s come to this. You are a decent person James and need to leave this mess. When WOS is seen as a spokesperson for independence by ALBA then it’s finished.

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    1. They think we floated in from the Happy Islands! Bunch of clippers.

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  3. Alan Harris has done his utmost to help the Alba Party get its act together on both Disciplinary and Constitutional matters. Others, myself included, served on other committees, and also ran into brick walls of resistance in running things properly. The control exerted by the Triad at the top, who have been entrusted to run the party, is beyond understanding. You cannot expect a " dae as yer telt" culture to build or sustain a party of National Liberation.

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    1. In many ways McEleny and Ahmed-Sheikh are much bigger problems than Salmond, but he's so obsessed with them that the only way of dislodging them would be to dislodge him first.

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  4. Must say that 'The Ayes Still Have It!' was a very positive show tonight.

    Nice reflection on the indyref, Bernard Ponsonby's analysis & interviewing other panelists, Dennis Canavan's antidotes, interesting discussion with a 16 & 26 (I believe) year old on how effectively we engaged the youth then and how we can do it in the future, interesting discussions on the various organisations: Woman for Yes, NHS for Yes, Business for Scotland, the Wee Blue Book etc, remembering those we have lost (including Fergus remembering the late great Winnie Ewing).

    Then some quiet passionate pleas from both Fergus and Alex Neil on what needs to happen now.

    Alex Neil believes that the SNP should take over Ash Regan's referendum bill and then hold that referendum on the same day as the 2026 election. That would effectively change the narrative in his opinion. It's an interesting thought.

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  5. Nothing to see here then? Move along, move along. Harris, stop talking. Your desire for democracy and legality in the constitutional affairs of Alba isn’t acceptable.

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  6. Leadership failure again. Our parties are bust. Someone is going to have to write a proper history of why and how at some stage.
    We need to build support for independence and consider the question of parties, first at the level of lesser evil voting in the short term and then as a vehicle for independence.

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  7. If the Secretary can veto any disciplinary complaint before it even comes to be debated by the Disciplianary committee that seems like a genuine issue and needs resolved.

    That sounds like the upshot of it.

    Yvonne Ridley doesn't appear to have any right to be on the NEC, is that the other?

    A hard read if I'm honest to get the issues boiled down. Although appreciate this was not originally for public consumption.


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    1. No, it's much broader than that. McEleny can veto complaints he doesn't like, but for the ones he does like or that he instigates himself, he prejudges them and tells the committee what penalty he wants. McEleny has also suspended members, supposedly pending a hearing, but then taken weeks to pass the case to the Disciplinary Committee, which is against the constitution. The committee was told that a defendant had expressed no wish to appear at his hearing, whereas the complete opposite was true. Vital evidence was withheld by McEleny from the committee in one of the cases. It goes on and on and on.

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    2. It sounds like confidentiality rules are mostly there to protect McEleny, because if all this had been common knowledge among the membership, he would have been forced to resign months ago?

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    3. One of the main issues raised by the Denise Somerville case was whether she had a legitimate reason for breaking confidentiality, because she was whistleblowing about wrongdoing (the stuffing of HQ branch with new members who nobody was supposed to know about but who were presumably there to get Abdul Majid elected to the NEC and to ensure Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh finished in first place). But McEleny decreed "you are not a whistleblower" and that was that. Alva is an autocracy with no due process.

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    4. For Alva, read Alba. No aspersions intended against the town.

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    5. I gather Abdul Majid got a bit over-zealous in what he was doing. The result of the NEC election was so extreme and lopsided that if it had ever been published, it would have been immediately obvious to everyone what had happened. That's why the result was kept secret.

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    6. Ok thanks for setting it out. Yes, this all leaves a lot to be desired if true.

      Enough here for the secretary to respond to for paying Alba members.

      Bringing the party into disrepute from within if you can't trust internal structures are respected. Not doing the party any favours and needs "professionalised".

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    7. Ah - but here's the really interesting bit. Unlike any other political party, there's nothing in the constitution (based on the SNP's constitution, but written by a branch of the Alba Party) to expel anyone for bringing the party into disrepute. Given McEleny's 2 a.m. incident which ended up in Greenock Sheriff Court, that's perhaps why it's not been included.

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    8. And yet people have been expelled from Alba this year. (People McEleny has targeted, naturally, not McEleny himself.)

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  8. You really have to wonder what the point of getting someone to write a procedure was if it was going to be ignored and what the benefit of ignoring it even is (other than giving power to few). None of these powers being in the hands of a few benefits the party as a whole even in an expedient way.

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    1. Exactly. And it certainly does not benefit the aim of independence.

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  9. Maybe one day Salmond’s hand-picked successor will emerge as the next leader, she succeeds him, and she duly prosecutes him in a witch trial which can’t even do as it’s telt and find him guilty. Then she and her ever faster revolving door of successors backpedal on independence and decide the party is really all about something else; something overwhelmingly unpopular amongst Scots, who duly spank them at the polls.

    The cycle would be complete.

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    1. Alba are already getting spanked at the polls without any of that having happened yet.

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    2. Bit early for the bevvy. Have a wee sleep deary.

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  10. Skulduggery at its finest, jist the way the crown like it.

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  11. Sandy Brindley, that horrible woman from Rape Crisis Scotland and mouthpiece of the alphabetties claims she is not aware of anyone calling for her to resign.
    Resign Brindley and take that Scottish Green MSP Chapman with you and never let us see your face on TV again.

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  12. Surprised nobody is talking about the Scottish Greens cash for access scandal revealed today.

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    1. Tell us about it please

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    2. McEleny, someone who should not be in his position is acting as a judge, jury and executioner.
      Same with Tasmina. They deleted evidence to stop them looking bad, because their hq was caught lying

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    3. Oh I could tell if I had a platform.

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    4. "Tell us about it please"

      The Greens were offering meetings with their most senior politicians at party conferences for £700 a head.

      Lobbyists were offered the chance to pay for a “sponsored lunch” in return for “an exclusive table to talk to ministers, MSPs and members”.

      The practice has been going on for at least a year and covers the time co-leaders Patrick Harvie and Lorna Slater were government ministers.

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    5. Anon at 1.49. Thank you for the info. I always knew they were grossly incompetent and dodgy, but this surely is a resignation issue. Greens are in for a real shock in 2026. Sadly so are the SNP.

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    6. I would pay the greens 700squid of my very own folding money to GTF - one way ticket, rwanda, or canada where they can cause a stink about hatecrimes against the trans-grizzly community

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    7. Could actually be a good money making scheme for the Greens: Patrick Harvie going up to people in restaurants asking for £700 otherwise he'll sit down and have dinner with them.

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    8. that's nice wee romantic meal youse two are having - shame if someone ruined it by planting themselves and honking on about net zero and transphobia for the next 2 hours ... a money winner true enough

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    9. I think the greens problem is they have not been radical enough, backsliding on the highly popular LGBTQ+ antiracism and diversity pride train. Harvey and Slater need to talk the talk and walk the walk; Harvie and Slater need to go for the surgery in order to inspire the people; if I knew that Patricia Harvie had a vagina and Lorna a penis constructed from thigh-flesh I would not hesitate to give my vote. I want to see an indy Scotland where trans surgery is free, to all the world, and carbon neutral; we shall offer it to all migrants and asylum seekers. We can become a vanguard for the world. Net zero, penis zero.

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  13. Salmond, Sheik, Mcelmeny, all disreputable people. When are they going to just GTF?

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    1. Oor Tasmina still has a few parties to get through.

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    2. Farage awaits her phone call.

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  14. Chris McEleny is just a wee boy with power that he should not have. He thinks he's important, tries to be Alex Salmond. Looks and weight wise.
    Anything that comes out his mouth or on twitter is embarrassing, to the point where if a deer farts in the woods, you're already laughing.
    Mr. Salmond sure knew how to choose them.
    One had dodgy expenses, one flip flops between parties to get a position and the other is a wee boy who thinks he's the. Cock of the north.

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  15. Why is that? Should people not be allowed to read the truth.

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  16. Where do complaints about McEleny go? No where.

    So much power in unelected official but its meant to be a poliitcal party. In the SNP the secretary is elected annually. Yet Salmond says the Alba constitution is based on the old SNP constitution. No it isnae. It needs fixed.

    Members have been raising it since first conference and then called trouble makers for raising it. So most are voting with their feet and leaving.. Less and less activists at each event. Not more. Reading this looks like they are being expelled! What a sad state of affairs which started so well with such enthusiasm at Greenock conference. Now lost.

    It needs to urgently change or is there anything worth saving.

    Talking of conference, when is Alba summer conference? December I suspect.

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  17. Why? Is that in the constitution he should do so. Politics are about debate. Perhaps you are best suited elsewhere. Somewhere their is no debate. Are you a friend of Sturgeon?

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  18. If you think politics is about debate then it's no wonder you were stupid enough to fall for the Salmond crap
    Why do you think the SNP wanted no more to do with him
    Nicola Sturgeon did Scotland and politics a favour when she denied Salmond any help, he just a mini Trump

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    1. ...and Sturgeon? What is your view on her? Look at the NEC in the SNP. Have a gander at their accounts. While you're at it have a look at the number of seats they have while YES is at 48pc. If you think Salmond is crap then she certainly Trumps him on that.

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    2. Out of genuine curiosity: When was the last time Sturgeon attended any pro-indy event?

      We're approaching the 10 year anniversary of the referendum and she's been nowhere to be seen. Seems to care more about her book than independence these days.

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    3. Nicola will be back.

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    4. "Nicola will be back"

      After being released on parole?

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    5. More nonsense and lies from Dr Jim @9.02pm.

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    6. Anon at 9:27 pm ... some believe that the police have advised NS for years now not to attend public events, especially on the streets. Too many crazies on-line spouting their hatred and misogyny puts her safety in doubt. The crazies posting below the line made me give up WOS nearly two years ago (it really was utterly mad stuff) and it'd be a shame if those same crazies shift over to post their "views" on SGP. Of course, there is also the potential risk of some of the Manky Jaiket's rentamob attacking her as well, their hatred usually just bubbling away under the surface.

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    7. Anon ifs- we know you don’t like Nicola Sturgeon. It is a given. This blog is about the treatment of ALBA members.

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    8. Anon 2.33pm you are obsessed with IFS.

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    9. Anon at 1130 tell your alternative self that NS is no longer FM.

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  19. If the allegations are the General secretary can veto disciplinary procedure and invoke suspension on a personal whim this is a graver matter than the above issus, I'd say.

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    1. I dont call him Conduct Christopher for nowt

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    2. Judge jury and executioner

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  20. Is there any response to any of this pending?

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  21. Cash for access? It's not just sleaze, it's GREEN sleaze. Every little helps!

    Oh how we laughed.

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  22. Because the behaviour of a range of individuals in Alba justifies it.

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    1. So good that they all lost their deposits !

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  23. It is laughable that you think James should post Alba PR on his blog.
    If you want James to post about Alba then Alba needs to be worth posting about.

    James is a polling expert who writes for various publications. He has his reputation to consider.

    He’s not going to spend his time posting Salmond fluff pieces

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    1. Leave the Salmond puff pieces to the Rev Campbell.

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    2. He is also a member of Alba.

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    3. If you're suggesting Campbell is a member of Alba, to the very best of my knowledge that isn't true. Although if he ever did join, the application of rules would be well worth keeping an eye on, given the sheer number of Alba members he has publicly used the C-word against. Given the praise the leadership have lavished on him, would they give him special dispensation to continue being abusive? Maybe Alex Salmond has privately advised him not to join, to avoid that very dilemma.

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    4. Does past behaviour count pre membership? Genuine q.

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    5. Nothing counts other than what A S decides will count. Keeps it nice and simple, albeit undemocratic.

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  24. Aye , Great Britain we must stay in this wonderful union - we ruled the world and left it a better place, gave Jonny foreigner civilisation . Fool Britannia!

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  25. Unionists must be very very concerned after that massive pro independence rally in George Square on Saturday.

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  26. Greetings from Palermo. My kindest wishes to one and all.

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  27. Seemed to be, as was the conference.

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  28. Ask the Norwegians or the Irish or the Finns or the Portuguese…… what a pillock. Englands going down the tube and it clutches onto Scotland’s resources like a beggar.

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    1. You’re the pillock if you believe tripe like that!

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    2. LOL you should try stand up comedy 🤣🤣

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  29. Every new party becomes bogged down by the disaffected. (Infiltrators aside.) They have a vision they hold to that doesn't coincide with the way the party is moving. (See Jim Sillars' disaster.) They have ambitions for personal authority let loose only because the party is small in number. The feel promotion should come early.

    Instead of leaving with dignity and friendly handshakes, they leave making all sorts of accusations, a lot of the trouble of their own making. "I will be heard!" and "I want attention." "I was right, all the others wrong."

    From then on their entitlement to interfere in the party's running is ended.

    But in ALBA's case, it has seen a concerted campaign against its membership to deconstruct and accuse. This overlong article above is a good example, full of detail no outsider can challenge. It is anxiety ridden and dishonourable, and to be blunt, an essay in self-justification. It does not recognise there are thousands of members who are not ciphers to be exploited or abused, people who remain in the party and have no wish to disperse and start again. And of course, on leaving as a united group, they soon break up into unhappy individuals without responsibility to their own compatriots.

    Personally, I would like to see political parties run by an intellectually smart and qualified committee, few in number, but the public demand charismatic leaders and will for the forseeable future. The liberation of a colonial exploited Scotland is the only goal. Onward!

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    1. That is not what happened at all. The party was wrecked by those at the top for a reason that is opaque. There was no ideological differences. I had no ambition to be a politician or to get paid quite the opposite
      I undoubtedly won the office bearer election I stood for but the result was cancelled
      Party management drove more and more activists out of the party and the result is the Party is moribund. They can’t muster more than 2- 3 activists for the by-election campaigns
      It’s been a massive disappointment to so many who put their faith in Salmond and Alba

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    2. Grousebeater has asked me to identify him as Anon at 11.02am.

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    3. Anon at 11.02. Can you refute any of the points made by the post writer? Clearly not. Instead you resort to what you accuse him of. Pathetic. Go away. You are doing as much damage to Indy as the devolutionists and entryists have done to SNP. Sick of the lot of you.

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    4. Regarding Sillars, it would have been better had he remained in the Labour party. After all, he donated a few grand to Jackie Baillie's political campaign.

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    5. In other words, the membership should wheesht and do as they're told !

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    6. Your final paragraph is so revealing - no-one who believes in democracy could believe that party democracy should be centred on a charismatic leader or a committee.

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  30. That's your manic opinion. And it isn't worth a dime..

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  31. I'm afraid there is not a scintilla of intelligent thought in your angry one-line responses. You back-up one falsehood with another. It's all goading merely to insult. Find full-time work soon, it's a healthier pursuit.

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