Thursday, March 14, 2024

Would an early general election improve or worsen the SNP's chances?

There was a bit of excitement yesterday about the possibility of a general election in May.  I said on Twitter that I couldn't think of any logical reason why Sunak would go early, rather than wait until the autumn in the hope that something might turn up.  OK, there's an outside chance of a Tory leadership challenge, and an early election would cut off that possibility - but an early election would also end Sunak's leadership anyway, thus defeating the whole purpose.  

Suzanne Blackley responded with a contrary view: she said Sunak would struggle to hold onto power until October and might be contemplating an early election as a way of resigning as Tory leader on his own terms.  Another Twitter user suggested the rationale might be to take advantage of the Tories' local government base by holding the general election on the same day as the English local elections, and thus get more boots on the ground.

I still think it's unlikely, but even if it's a 20% chance it's worth considering what the implications would be.  If yesterday's Redfield & Wilton poll is correct, it's not just the Tories who need something to turn up - the SNP do too, because they're currently heading for defeat, at least in terms of seats.  Not a crushing defeat, but a defeat just the same.  So from that perspective they might be better off with a few more months to see if they can devise a way of turning things around (hint: find a more popular leadership team and revert to a more radical independence strategy).

On the other hand, the earlier the election is, the more likely it is that Gaza will still be at the forefront of voters' minds.  For the vast majority of people that won't affect how they vote, but I suspect there's a subset of idealistic, mostly young voters out there who would struggle to vote Labour if Gaza was heavily in their thoughts.  A useful comparison might be with the 2003 Holyrood election, which took place only a few weeks after the invasion of Iraq.  The circumstances didn't stop Labour retaining their status as the largest single party, but they suffered a net loss of several seats, and some of that could be directly attributed to the war - most notably the defeat to Mike Pringle of the Liberal Democrats in Edinburgh South, a constituency with a large student population.

A similar phenomenon in a May election this year would be most likely to favour the SNP, and possibly the Greens - although because the Greens can't win seats, a Green surge would be much less harmful to Labour's chances of beating the SNP.

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42 comments:

  1. The SNP probably would not benefit from an early election. A later election would suit. By the end of 2024 it may well be that the police investigation is terminated with no charges being brought forward allowing SNP to return to the electorate in a better position than currently.

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    1. I'm not sure how much the police investigation really matters to voters at the moment. It was big news a few months ago, but right now it's faded from view.

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    2. When the polis do submit their case to the procurator, though: bad news with a capital B for the SNP in general and Nicola’s faction in particular. Camperbus and SNP sleaze all over the news again. A known danger they want to avoid so close to an election.

      I’ve been arguing that the election will be in May for awhile now. The English local election In May is the Tories Bear trap lying open and unavoidable. Might as well make the most of it, for the reasons given above

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    3. It will be news when there is news. Whoever got themselves into such a fankle whether legal or illegal has done everyone a great disservice.

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    4. Operation Branchform will not end until they're confident Nicola Sturgeon won't return
      The only sleaze that actually exists is the operation in progress against the SNP and Nicola Sturgeon who Mark Drakeford Labour's own FM in Wales has praised as the woman UK ministers fear most

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    5. Anon at 7.55pm - where is the missing ringfenced £600k? You got it in your back pocket?

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    6. Nicola Sturgeon was undoubtedly feared by many.

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    7. Nicola Sturgeon was undoubtedly feared by many in the SNP. There you go anon at 10.11pm fixed that for you. She certainly wisnae feared by Theresa May, Boris Johnston, Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak because they all knew she was a phoney - all talk no action.

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    8. With respect Independence for Scotland, I think you’re wrong, but everybody’s got an opinion.

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  2. It'll be a great result for indy whatever happens. Four years of Starmer and Rayner will reignite the Yes movement.

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    1. I hope so. But what if the SNP remains “No Independence please, We are not nationalists, we’re progressives.”

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    2. The quiet part: “We also rather like our comfy jobs and excellent pensions. You Shuffle along now, eat your carrots and wheest for Indy.”

      Vote SNP. Stronger for Scotland!

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  3. The SNP leader has grown in standing and in sureness of touch during his short time as leader. There are absolutely no grounds whatever to depose.

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    1. The SNP leader refuses to support a Scotland where Rupert Murdoch yes-men and corporate executives can make a mockery of our innocent children.

      Labour and the Tories are conspiring with media moguls, flight attendants and unstable nuclear regimes.

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    2. Just adapt to suit:

      https://phrasegenerator.com/politics

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    3. Humza is tired and wants out

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    4. Humza is a drag on the SNP’s polling, a third rate first minister, and an active roadblock to independence. Plenty of people want him besides the man himself!

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    5. Ugh, phone keyboard.

      Plenty of people want him OUT besides just him, going by the tiredness in his eyes.

      I’d call him the next John Swinney, but I sincerely hope Humza and the rest of Nicola’s faction get nowhere near influence again. Swinney’s post-leadership career as Nicola’s hatchet man and felt tip pen artist is nothing to be repeated.

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  4. Early election would be bad for the SNP. Yousaf shows no sign of instigating any realistic strategy on independence. Independence supporters will not be in a hurry to help him or his party. I can see many abstaining. If Yousaf can't be bothered why should we? Better to take this opportunity to get rid of independence loafers like Yousaf and Westminster-loving MPs like Wishart.

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    1. Humza has in fact been working hard. He holds his own during debates.

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    2. He's growing into the role and showing sureness-of-touch. He gave a great speech at conference. We can all agree.

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    3. Not a massive Yousaf fan but feel the criticism of him is a bit over the top at times.
      Actually thought he put in a decent show at FMQs today. He’s certainly got the measure of Ross and Sarwar.

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    4. Yes, they lack his sureness-of-touch and haven't grown into the role as he has. Their speeches at conference weren't as great. We can all agree.

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    5. Yousaf doesn't want the job anymore

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    6. I still bet he tries his hardest to cling onto it once the knives are out after the bourach of an election.

      The faction demands no less.

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  5. The quality of comments are inversely proportional to the regularity of the occurrence of the personal identifier "Anonymous".

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    1. Now that’s next generation AI-level self awareness on show right there!

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  7. There is no way that Sunak will go in May. Major held on in 1997 to the bitter end in the hope that 'something might turn up'. The earliest that Sunak will go is in the Autumn.

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    1. You’re on!

      It’ll be May. Every day in government after that will be pure hell for him.

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  8. It doesn’t matter when the election is held. The SNP don’t have enough money to fund the campaign.

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    1. Murrell will give them another fat loan. He’s filthy with cash, good honest and dear friend of independence that he is. /s

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  9. " I have been utterly ashamed to be a member of the Westminster parliament....." says Flynn SNP Westminster leader on tonight's QT. Well get to f**k out of there then. Stop your moaning about bad Westminster and say a final goodbye. Or you are condemned by your very own words. The place is a House of Horrors and by contributing to it and accepting it you are acting shamefully.

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    1. Good to see you praise Flynn. He is a visionary.

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    2. Flynn was eloquent on BBCQT yesterday. Many people applauded his answers and praised him on social media.

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    3. I never saw QT last night, but have little doubt Flynn did well.
      I was disappointed when Ian Blackford stood down as the SNPs Westminster leader, but Flynn is proving a very able replacement.

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    4. Yes, he's growing into the role and showing sureness-of-touch. He made a great speech at conference. We can all agree.

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    5. He is a very good SNP leader at Westminster and has a very strong presence in the House. He is recognised for having the skill of asking very effective questions at PMQs.

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    6. I wasn’t convinced about Flynn initially but he certainly comes across well now and is starting to show the same authority that Blackford did.

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    7. Agreed - Blackford was indeed a hard act to follow. There is a *lot* of talent on the SNP benches.

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    8. 8 anonymous posts. Not sure how many were by real people. Not sure if any of them addressed the point I made - if it's such a shameful place why do you keep turning up.
      Most of the posts were definitely sycophantic generic SNP praise. I agreed with most of what Flynn had to say - he stood out amongst the other horrors on the show as having held a constant moral stance from the beginning of the Gaza Genocide. However, there was more he could have said about the situation.

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