OK, so the headline is a tribute to the hysterical treatment the Express website gave to the statistically insignificant 1% decrease for Yes in the Scot Goes Pop / Panelbase poll on Friday night. (They published no fewer than
two articles on the same subject, and Unionist Twitter went nuts over it.) But there's a serious lesson here about the way mainstream media journalists treat their readers with utter contempt on polling matters. Having cynically misrepresented the significance of the margin of error noise that flattered No in the Scot Goes Pop poll, will they do the same thing today now that a fresh Panelbase poll, this time for the Sunday Times, is showing what may well just be margin of error noise that flatters Yes, but that on the face of it amounts to a rather impressive 2% increase in support for independence? Especially as it takes Yes to 49% - a statistical tie with No, and the best result for Yes in any Panelbase poll since
April? I suspect they won't.
Should Scotland be an independent country? (Sunday Times / Panelbase poll, 9th-12th November 2021)
Yes 49% (+2)
No 51% (-2)
(Note: The Sunday Times are reporting it as a 1% increase for Yes, and a 1% decrease for No, but that's because they're pretending that the only Panelbase polls that exist are the ones they commissioned themselves - which in fairness has been standard practice for all newspapers since the dawn of time. However, even on the basis of the claimed 1% increase, I can't help but raise a smile at the mundane reference to the Yes vote merely "holding up", given the rather more excitable treatment the Express, Blair McDougall, "HappyBritScot", Pamela Nash, Murdo Fraser et al gave to a similarly trivial 1% decrease on Friday night.)
As I've mentioned before, the two Panelbase polls before Friday both had Yes on 48%. So an entirely plausible interpretation is that Yes has been steady at around 48% for many months now, and that normal sampling variation caused a meaningless dip to 47% on Friday night, and an equally meaningless bump up to 49% this morning. But there is also an alternative explanation. Whatever you may think of Nicola Sturgeon, no-one can doubt the excellence of her public relations skills, and she's had a particularly good couple of weeks at COP26. So it's just conceivable there may have been a genuine Yes bounce off the back of the climate summit in Glasgow.
Unlike the indyref numbers, the Westminster voting intention numbers from the Sunday Times poll are almost identical to the Scot Goes Pop poll - with the exception of the fact that Labour have slipped back into third place (perhaps surprising given Boris Johnson's troubles and the trajectory of GB-wide polls).
Scottish voting intentions for the next UK general election (Sunday Times / Panelbase poll):
SNP 48% (-)
Conservatives 21% (-)
Labour 20% (-1)
Liberal Democrats 7% (-)
(Note: Once again, the Sunday Times are reporting completely different percentage changes, because they're pretending Friday's Panelbase poll doesn't exist. Instead, they're using the much less recent Panelbase poll they commissioned themselves back in September as their baseline.)
Although the SNP haven't made further progress, this is one occasion when a no change poll may be of interest - because as I mentioned on Friday night, the 48% for the SNP in the Scot Goes Pop poll was the highest the party had recorded in any Panelbase poll for around one year. The fact that the same figure has now been recorded twice in quick succession may increase the chances that there has been a genuine (albeit modest) uptick.
Seats projection (with changes from 2019 general election): SNP 53 (+5), Conservatives 3 (-3), Liberal Democrats 2 (-2), Labour 1 (-)
The above projection has been calculated by Professor John Curtice on behalf of the Sunday Times. It presumably must be based on the existing boundaries, because the seats add up to 59 - as opposed to 57 on the proposed new boundaries.
There are also Holyrood numbers in the new poll - and for those the Sunday Times actually do list accurate percentage changes, because there aren't any Holyrood results in the Scot Goes Pop poll.
Scottish Parliament constituency ballot:
SNP 47% (+1)
Conservatives 20% (-2)
Labour 19% (+1)
Liberal Democrats 8 % (+1)
Greens 4% (-)
Scottish Parliament regional list ballot:
SNP 41% (+3)
Conservatives 21% (-2)
Labour 18% (-)
Greens 10% (+1)
Liberal Democrats 8% (-)
Others 3% (-1)
The 3% for 'others' includes Alba, who Panelbase have completely stopped offering as an option in their Holyrood polls - which to me seems a very odd decision given the clear evidence that Alba are still registering when respondents are given the chance to express a preference.
Seats projection (with changes from May 2021): SNP 64 (-), Conservatives 26 (-5), Labour 22 (-), Greens 10 (+2), Liberal Democrats 7 (+3)
PRO-INDEPENDENCE PARTIES: 74 seats (57.4%)
ANTI-INDEPENDENCE PARTIES: 55 seats (42.6%)
PRO-INDEPENDENCE MAJORITY OF 19 SEATS
That's still only 50/50 after 7 years of murrell rule. 7 years of the broken Vow. 5 years of being dragged out of Europe. Ans the small matter of 2 years of Prime Minister Boris J.
ReplyDeleteThat it is not overwhelmingly Yes proves the total failure of the murrell plan.
Unless her plan is to maintain a losing position, say I tried but the people wouldn't support me then run off to her job at the UN.
PS. blair mcdougall is a fat lying piece of unpleasant nonsense.
ReplyDeletePPS. We are going to be unseeded in the play-off thanks to clarke and his moronic selection of marshall ahead of Gordon and throwing away 4 points back at the start of qualifying.
ReplyDeleteHe should have been sacked after the Croatia game.
Same results as sticking with brown after 1996 or 1998. Both times we should have brought in a new manager while still having a quality team and not let their failures set us on the path into the wilderness for 20 years. Under any half-way competent leader we would have won the group in 2000 and not had to face england in the playoff.
Good news Craig Murray being released from prison at the end of November.
ReplyDeleteA million independence papers to be printed and distributed by the SNP and the National.
ReplyDeleteWhat are they going to say about the GERS figures - numpties.
1. Nothing - just ignore the GERS that the SNP/Scotgov prepare.
2. Claim that the big bad boy in Westminster forces them to produce the GERS report.
3. Say that the figures are correct but are a result of being in the union.
4. Say it is British propaganda that we should have stopped producing for them years ago ( nae chance of this one).
Is this being done now because a new Wee blue book from Alba is on its way?
I don't see what the problem is - it's somebody doing something positive. If people think the Wee Blue Book was effective, this is the same basic principle. OK, the content will be different but it'll still be pro-independence content.
DeleteJames I never said it was a problem. I just posed a couple of questions.
DeleteI'll ask the question that I have asked on many occasions over a number of years. Why do the SNP continue to give the Britnats a GERS propaganda gift every year? They clearly think it is propaganda or just plain wrong as they stated they would get Derek McKay to produce an alternative.
If this is being done due to the possibility of a Wee Alba book coming along soon then it shows the value of having an alternative party that wants independence.
And if anyone says we already have "an alternative party the Greens that wants independence" then John McEnroe's "you cannot be serious " comes to mind.
DeleteI'm still an SNP member but I welcome the Alba party. The "indy newspaper" initiative suggests that the Sturgeon leadership does not feel as secure as some of us thought it to be. A new, 'wee blue book' from Alba would be valuable. It would also show Alba turning outwards to the movement and electorate rather than over emphasising the undoubted shortcomings of the current SNP feudal leadership..
ReplyDeletePamela Nash. Anyone else remember that political titan?
ReplyDeleteSTOP THE PRESS
ReplyDeleteAN amazing scoop from WGD. Tories like money and they do not always get it by honourable or legal means. Well knock me over with a wee feather who would have kent that.
What next from the giant of journalism known as Mr Kavanagh- Labour promise to abolish the House of Lords for the Zillionth time.