Sunday, May 10, 2020

If Britain has ceased to look like "one United Kingdom" tonight, it's because Boris Johnson has insisted upon a go-it-alone English-only policy change, while Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland remain united around "stay at home"





















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102 comments:

  1. Johnson has the cheek to tell people to stay alert. He and his government weren't very alert back in January when he was more concerned about bunging a bob to get Big Ben to bong and of course manufacturing his Brexit 50p coins (which no one ever sees or wants to handle now anyway ) when the virus was causing China to lockdown a large area of approx 60 million people.

    Asleep at the wheel should sum up Johnsons tenure as PM.

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    1. At last someone on here agrees with me.

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    2. Aye stay alert the country needs "Lerts" like we need a hole in the head.

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    3. I'm so alert I remind myself if Private Fraser in the closing sequence of Dads' Army.

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  2. Johnsons failure to consult with the devolved nations on a change of message is a dereliction of duty. He had the cheek to say in his speech:

    "I have consulted across the political spectrum, across all four nations of the UK."

    Just another barefaced lie as we know the first that the FM heard of it was in the newspaper headlines.

    So not only did he deviate from a "Four Nations" approach to the public message, he literally ignored the views of the divolved governments while doing so.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-address-to-the-nation-on-coronavirus-10-may-2020

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    1. Thepnr haven't you realised yet that when Boris says "consulted across the political spectrum" what he means is... We've released snippets to the press, let them report it, waited to see what the fallout is, then announced something completely different.

      It's what they've been doing for months, way before this Covid thing.

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    2. Father alma mater ColonoscopyMay 10, 2020 at 11:35 PM

      My young Thepnr I knew you would never look back. My favourite bhoy.

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    3. Covidia would never let anything as minor as a global pandemic get in the way of its warped obsessions.

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  3. This Johnson's address shows how constitutionally s***ed up UK is. UK PM is also English FM (think EVEL). When UK PM and English FM (in one person) speaks, they always give the impression that they are speaking as the UK PM and not the English FM which inevitably leaves other three FMs fuming.
    And we haven't even touched the fact that Scottish, NI or Welsh MPs can't even become a UK PM because a UK PM is an English FM. How many people in Scotland know that there's no chance of a Scottish MP becoming a PM - that it's a position reserved for English MPs?
    As far as the speech concerned - if you're a Tory PM and even Arlene Foster doesn't want to go ahead with your policies - you must know you're doing something wrong.

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    1. The UK has had 10 Scottish Prime Ministers. Tony Blair being the greatest. Where do you Scottish Nazis get your information from.
      Is it the Tomatus Sheramadus Catholic Marximus Romanamus College.

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    2. GWC you are correct with your assertion, but EVEL means there will never be another, unless they stand in an English constituency.

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    3. Tony Blair most certainly wasn't a Scottish MP. Where did you get that? He was a MP for Sedgefield (check the map to find out where it is).
      And all the Scottish PMs before him (and Brown after him) were before EVEL. EVEL has made a Scottish (or Welsh or NI) PM an impossibility. You don't know much about UK you supposedly so much like, do you? I always think you have to know your enemy really well if you want to defeat him. And what is this obsession of yours with the Catholicism? Who do you think I am - Jacob Rees-Mogg?
      EVEL has created a de facto English FM and UK PM in one and same person. UK PM has to be able to vote on England-only devolved matters as well. Westminster is the English and UK parliament. And that's what's going to be the last nail in the UK coffin. You can't go on with a charade of union of equals where only MPs from one country can become PM of the whole union and where English FM and UK PM are one and same person.

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    4. GWC they were all Britnat turds like you that signed the Ragmans roll. Now away and slide back to your sewer.

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    5. Unknown, Tony Blair was not a Jockish MP. I never said he was. What school did you attend?

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    6. I'm Dutch originally (and thus probably more orange than you'll ever be) and Scottish by choice for the past 13 years - I didn't go to any religious schools. Re Blair (or Cameron) - it's really meaningless to describe them as Scottish in any way if they themselves never described as Scottish (maybe only before GE if they were campaigning in Scotland). Anon was by mistake - it should've said Martin.

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    7. I am not Orange just a typical Scotsman who supports the Union and democracy. The Dutch are a strange lot many supported Adolf and many did not. Many Scottish Nat sis and Irish Jew haters supported the Adolf holiday camps but were in denial when Adolf was defeated.

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    8. Don't open your gusset.

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    9. I would. For Constantine Mudge.

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    10. GWC you are a Britnat turd - own it- live it - thats what you are. Away back to the sewer you crawled out of.

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    11. It would, but its diseased rages were considered too repellent even for MailOnline...

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    12. Constantine MudgeMay 11, 2020 at 12:08 PM

      One recoils from the immodesty of Ms Glurt with the overt suggestion of veneral laxity.

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  4. 4 nations 4 FMs. That's right.
    Bojo should appear in front of a St George's flag when punting his gung ho back to work message to England only.
    Trouble is he thinks he's the emperor.
    Nae excuse though for the BBCs misrepresentation of his speech.
    Nearly threw the telly oot the windae.

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    1. You could have hung oan tae the telly ya thicko, hope you live oan the twenty second floor.

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    2. Covidia was too busy licking its television during the speech.

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  5. The BBC in Scotland say they've sussed Nicola Sturgeons game plan to convince Scotland to be Independent

    She's doing everything better and she's doing it deliberately

    George Ffffoukes is ragin

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    1. " She's doing everything better" - that she is - but it is like Messi going up against a local amateur team from Fuengirola.

      What a bunch of useless tossers in Westminster led by bonking Boris who doesn't even qualify as a half - wit. Johnson goes to a coronavirus ward and shakes hands with everyone thinking he will look brave but it marks him out as an idiot who is not brave enough to even say how many kids he has.

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    2. Can only say more power to your elbow and hand with pen.

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  6. Normal life goes on in the Middle East. Israel has attacked a major Iranian chemical weapons location based in Syria. Massive explosions reported by UN observers. Seems the Islamic virus is still to be defeated.

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    1. Normal life goes on in the Middle East. Glorious Brexitania continues to flog weapons to that great bastion of human rights, Saudi Arabia, to use indiscriminately on Yemeni civilians.

      But Covidia the obedient colonial is happy to disregard such trifles.

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  7. Grateful to PM Johnson for stating that Reception class and Year 6 will probably open in June. That cleared things up a lot for those of us working in schools.

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  8. Dr Chaand Nagpaul, chairman of the British Medical Association (BMA), has been speaking to BBC Breakfast. He said he did not know “on what basis” the government had decided to relax the lockdown rules, as there is still “a considerable amount” of the virus in the community .

    “At the moment we have more people dying on Saturday than we had at the beginning of the lockdown,” he said. “We’ve also seen about 4,000 new cases every day over the weekend, and that’s just a fraction of the real number of new cases because of the limited testing so there’s a considerable amount of community circulation of the virus going on.”

    If we now allow the public to go to local parks in an unlimited sense, and to go outdoors ... what we’ve not heard is how the government will enforce social distancing and how it will avoid a whole neighbourhood playing in a park, with footballs moving from one group to another, and spreading the disease. So, I’m really concerned that there is no clarity.

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  9. Europe coming out of lockdown

    In France, primary schools will start with small numbers of pupils today, and clothes shops, bookshops, hair salons and florists will reopen. Restaurants, cinemas and bars will remain shut.

    In Belgium, most business will open on Monday albeit with social distancing. Restaurants, bars and cafes remain closed.

    In the Netherlands, primary schools will partially reopen today. Libraries, physiotherapists, driving schools and hairdressers will also open.

    In Switzerland, both primary and middle schools will reopen but classes will be reduced in size. Restaurants, bookshops and museums can also open but with certain restrictions.

    In some regions of Spain, gatherings of up to ten people will be allowed and outdoor spaces at restaurants can reopen with social distancing measures.

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    1. The covid infection rate in England needs to come down for this to happen, as is the case in the countries described.

      UK new cases identified per day is still at peak levels (~5k), and has been for over a month.

      Falling in Scotland; has been since ~20th April.

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  10. Seems to me Boris is very keen on herd immunity again now that he's personally immune.

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    1. I wouldn't say he's keen, but clearly if it's suppressions at all costs or the economy he's chosen the economy. Not likely there'll be another furlough scheme for instance.

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    2. He's going against the rest of the UK and looking to relax lockdown even though in England, new cases remain at peak levels and have been like that for over a month. Suggests he's keen.

      There's plenty of money for lockdown; just needs very high taxes on the wealthy, nationalisation, requisition etc. Just like in the 'good old days' of the war/post-war period.

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  11. n Denmark, shopping centres can reopen on Monday while in Poland, hotels can reopen this week - although foreign tourists would still have to quarantine for two weeks.

    Other European countries like Germany, Austria and Italy have already begun easing their restrictions.


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    1. 529 dead in Denmark, with new cases falling.

      31,855 in the UK, with new cases remaining at peak levels.

      If the UK had locked down earlier, it could be opening up earlier. Denmark locked down when there was only a couple of deaths, representing e.g. 2k infections a month previously.

      UK waited to 335 deaths or 33,500 infections 4 weeks previously.

      It's why the UK has the worst deaths in Europe and the new cases rate remains at peak levels.

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    2. In Slivakua people are aloud ri looks at pudgeins

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    3. Oh dear.
      Covidia has made an early start on the turps today, hasn't it?

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  12. The chief constable of Greater Manchester police Ian Hopkins said he doesn't know how hiss officers should enforce the new rules.

    "It’s going to be difficult, in his words. Because we are saying to people, ‘you can go to a park and stay two metres apart’ and apparently they can be anybody, but you can only play golf with someone from your household. It feels contradictory. I think the police are going to have difficulties enforcing it, and the worry about that of course is that you lose the discipline."

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  13. We are prepared to re-release our banned single “Sunshine Fae Perth” in support of the Constantine Mudge Defence Fund.

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    1. Constantine MudgeMay 11, 2020 at 10:19 AM

      One's gratitude is unbounded. One's humility illimited.

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  14. As the public eagerly awaits Boris Johnson’s update on lockdown this Sunday, the majority are still cautious about re-opening public places. Fewer than one in ten think schools (8%), offices (8%) and non-essential shops (9%) should re-open this weekend.

    Similarly, even if some restrictions were lifted tomorrow, people remain very uncomfortable at the idea of eating in restaurants (60% vs. 27% who would be comfortable), taking public transport (59% uncomfortable vs. 20% comfortable for bus travel) or going to a pub (58% uncomfortable vs. 25% comfortable). The only place where the “comfortable” figure approaches the “uncomfortable” figure is working in offices which likely reflects the degree of trust workers have that their employers would not put their safety at risk (30% comfortable, 36% uncomfortable).

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  15. In the week that saw the UK become the country with the highest Coronavirus death toll in Europe, Yougov latest poll shows the public now believe the UK Government has handled the crisis worse than every country asked about, apart from the United States.

    Three in ten think the UK has handled the situation worse than Italy (29%) and Spain (also 29%). Two weeks ago, the public believed the UK Government had dealt with the situation better than both Italy and Spain. Over half (52%) believe Germany has responded in a better way.

    A small majority (54%) believe the UK has handled the crisis better than the US.

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  16. A leading critical care doctor in Newport has said people breaking lockdown restrictions risk triggering a more lethal second wave of coronavirus.

    Dr David Hepburn, who works in the intensive care unit at the Royal Gwent Hospital, tweeted on Saturday following media reports over the weekend of busy VE Day street parties taking place around the UK, including a mass conga on one street.

    He wrote on Twitter: "Just watched the conga lines/street parties on the news. The nation has lost its f***** mind. We're strapping in for a second wage. I'm so, so tired, and so pissed off. We've had a few days of respite and I was starting to feel hopeful. Can't believe I was so naive."

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  17. NEW: Snap @YouGov poll shows public (narrowly) supports PM's changes, but opposition higher among Remainers, women and the younghttps://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/boris-johnson-announces-lockdown-exit-plan-27xxlf6dr …

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  18. Seems to me what we have is dead simple.
    It's just an even more dangerous example of the moral cowardice that lies at the heart of Johnson's mean, selfish personality.
    He wants to go on wearing his Blue Peter prime minister's badge for every last day possible despite having nothing like the judgement or strength of character to get near to doing a competent job.
    Hounded by the profit takers in his party, for whom the real and only slogan is 'profit before people ' but afraid of public opinionwhich wants to survive, he goes for a vague bodge.
    Plan will be to let the contradictions in his statement fester for a couple of weeks and, when a new peak of deaths comes, say he tried to prevent it but people would not be told. Basically, 'a big boy did it and ran away'.
    What would really be best for him would be for just one or two rich types to die then he can go into another slavering clown act about all being in this together.
    This is where jingo, racist exceptionalism has brought the uk. A position in which the westminster government is an, as yet slightly shy, death cult with a no deal Brexit yet to come.

    For Scotland there is an answer. Stick together, public health first, but never forget or forgive this shit and when the smoke clears - forward !

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  19. Draconian stay-at-home orders and shutting all non-essential businesses had little effect on fighting coronavirus in Europe, according to a study.

    But the same scientists discovered closing schools and banning all mass gatherings did work in slowing outbreaks across the continent.

    University of East Anglia researchers now say relaxing the stay-at-home policy and letting some businesses reopen could be the UK's first step to easing lockdown.

    The findings throw into question whether Britain's total lockdown - announced on March 23 - was ever necessary amid claims social distancing policies announced on March 16 curbed the crisis on their own.

    Other leading scientists have claimed Britain's COVID-19 outbreak peaked and started to decline before the official lockdown began, arguing that Number 10's drastic policy to shut the UK down was wrong.

    Transport use plummeted and fewer people were visiting GPs with tell-tale coronavirus symptoms the week before lockdown, suggesting the government's call for the public to work from home where possible and to only take essential travel was effective enough.

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    1. UEA researchers looked at a range of social distancing measures adopted across 30 European countries.

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  20. One of the scientists involved in research in East Anglia, Dr Julii Brainard, said they found clear distinctions between which measures were more effective.

    'We found that three of the control measures were especially effective and the other two were not,' she told BBC Radio 4 this morning.

    'It pains me to say this because I have kids that I'd like to get back into education, but closing schools was the most effective single measure, followed by mass gatherings.

    '[This was] followed by what were defined... as the initial business closures. So that was the point when, in the UK for instance, they closed gyms and clubs.

    'Adding very little additional effect was the stay-at-home measure, surprisingly, and the additional business closures.'

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  21. The original 4 nation policy was that when lockdown was to be eased it would be eased at the slowest nation pace, meaning whichever nation was last infected would be the slowest out

    What Johnson has done is selfish and deliberately divisive in taking England on a different path trying to push the other nations Patriotic Unionism supporters into defying their own governments, and if they do and create a spike in infection rate in their areas Johnson can claim those areas didn't do so well as England at controlling their infection rates and that's why they had a spike, all in the hope of not making him look like the most incompetent person of all time, so obviously this plan was not Johnsons

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  22. Professor Edmunds told the science committee that, a couple of weeks ago he would have said the R in the community was between 0.6 and 0.8.

    But because of higher infection rates in medical facilities, he said, the overall estimate now stood at close to 1.

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  23. If Radio 4 is anything to go by. It is turning into a PR fiasco for Johnson.

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  24. On the plus side for the SNP, Scotland has now established a de facto border with England. When people had to stay local this was a pretty insignificant issue, but now as people can travel freely throughout England without restriction the fact they cannot cross the Scottish border unless for a specific purpose creates a pseudo border, that, presumably will be tightly enforced by the police, particularly if infection rates do begin to rise in England as a result of the loosening of the restrictions.

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  25. The Welsh Government has warned that people in England are not allowed to travel to Wales for exercise.

    Counsel General and Member of the Senedd Jeremy Miles made the important clarification after Boris Johnson’s speech easing lockdown rules in England on Sunday night.

    Addressing the nation, the Prime Minster said those in England can now undertake “unlimited exercise” including allowing people to drive to different locations with members of the same household.

    But Mr Miles said that those who travel across the border to Wales could face being fined by police.

    Speaking to BBC Wales, he said: “I want to be really clear about this. The position in Wales is very different from the position in England in relation to that.

    “Our regulations do not permit people to get in their cars and drive to destinations in Wales and this includes people getting in their cars in England.

    “We are not permitting that in Wales.”

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    1. The Scottish police should likewise enforce this vigorously. With new cases / day falling here while these remain at peak levels in England, the last thing we need is another wave of campervan type infections.

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    2. A Scottish Nat si police state. Stop the English at the border. And what about this quarantine for 14 days for anyone entering the country except for Irish Republicans!

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    3. and the French Republicans.

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    4. And Three Men in a Boat.

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  26. Australians flocked to shopping centres across the country as coronavirus restrictions began to ease.

    But a failure to stick to 1.5-metre physical distancing rules has raised concerns.

    Brisbane shopper Richard Low described the rush as similar to "Christmas crowds"

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    1. Australian scumbags. Most of them are Jock nat sis and there moaning tartan spogs.

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    2. Covidia and its usual screams of xenophobic rage, everyone.
      I think it's become unwell under lockdown.

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  27. While I'm very glad to hear this, I don't understand why England should be deciding such things for Scotland/Wales/NI when it comes to international arrivals.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52610594

    England has made clear it's taking a different path to the rest of the UK, so decisions about quarantine in rUK countries should be up to their respective governments.

    I think 2 weeks for arrivals from England would appropriate due to the high levels of infection there, but France has suppressed the disease enough now to warrant no quarantine.

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    1. I'm glad to hear that France and feels that the UK has suppressed the disease enough that no quarantine is needed, good to know.
      https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/britons-can-enter-france-starting-from-may-11-without-being-quarantined/

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    2. The main difference is that English people don't treat France like they own it. Hence you don't get floods of campervan and holiday home owners disrespecting the rules. Ergo, this plan works.

      However England sees Scotland as belonging to it by contrast, hence it got so badly infected by the campervan / holiday castle route.

      A similar case applies in Wales. That's why the Welsh government are making a point of telling English people they'll be arrested for trying to cross the border to go visit the hills etc. English people won't do this to France.

      There's the channel of course too, which limits traffic.

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  28. Britnats are so desperate for Scotland to fall in line with England so that Scotland ends up in as bad a state as England and don't care about more people dying in Scotland. They just cannot stomach the possibility of Scotland doing anything better than England. There is something seriously wrong with these Britnats.

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    1. Yes, but it is England deviating from the rest of the UK. Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland are all unite in their message. "Stay home, stay safe! Stay alert for infected arrivals from England!"

      Unionists should be attacking England for this heinous nationalism that's damaging the union.

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  29. I wonder where Scotland's young and working age will wish to live when the furlough cash runs out bearing in mind the covid risk to them is very low, free and prosperous England full of opportunities or controlled and impoverished Scotland. We could end up with a Berlin wall type scenario.

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    1. England is going to cancel Scots unionist voter furlough cash while forcing people to risk their lives? Is that wise with support for Yes at 50%?

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    2. I note that the UK government has already been going after the pro-brexit and unionist vote with its 'herd immunity' plans. After all, it's the over 65s most at risk.

      Even the most hardcore of Scottish unionist care-home dwellers are flocking to Yes as Sturgeon comes to their rescue.

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    3. It's cancelling everybody's furlough cash.

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    4. If you're relying on care-home dwellers you're going to need a quick referendum.

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    5. "It's cancelling everybody's furlough cash."

      Yes, cancelling unionist furlough cash as I said. If you are a unionist on furlough, you want that to continue if your job prospects are not great once its cancelled. If the UK government cancels it and puts you out of work, you'll be voting Yes next time. Yes voters are already sold.

      And the idea that being forced to leave your country in search of work is appealing shows how utterly clueless you are. It was that which nearly broke the union ahead of 1997. Only devolution saved it; this boosting the economy are resulting in net immigration. If the net emigration of the 80/90's had continued, Scotland would be independent now.

      As for care homes... it's 50/50. Boris only needs to kill a single unionist with covid and Yes is in majority. Likewise, Nicola only needs to save one from him, winning their vote.

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  30. Scotlands young and working age have always been either encouraged to remove themselves from Scotland to work in England or were forced to through the removal of industry from Scotland to England because politically it made sense as Scotlands votes make no difference to whoever is elected to the offices of power in England

    If you are a parasite (as England is) it's always useful to keep your host alive but not thrive, because if you allow them to thrive they'll become strong enough to get rid of you

    That's how the *British* Empire was maintained, of course you'll have noticed all the other colonised hosts innoculated themselves against England and are now cured

    England is just another virus to be removed

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    1. Spot on. We need a Britnat vaccine that will help Britnats stop being subservient and grovelling to England.

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  31. Irish Whiskey used to be the main choice of Whiskey around the world until Ireland took its Independence form England, then England choked off all supply lines and the Irish Whiskey industry died while the Scotch Whisky industry then began to thrive because England needed the money from the taxation

    The tax that Donald Trump has imposed upon Scotlands Whisky right now has nothing to do with trade wars as he has said, it's a threat imposed upon Scotland at the request of Boris Johnson that this is what will happen if Scotland takes its Independence from England

    Hence Nicola Sturgeon's absolute iron will to keep Scotland within the EU so England can't pull those fast ones on all of Scotlands produce or the EU would be forced to retaliate by imposing sanctions against England

    Common travel area, think all of Scotlands produce and England wants to control it, blackmail!
    So what self respecting nation wants that for a neighbour unless you also have a big stick, the EU

    The parasites begin to eat themselves when the host finds the cure

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    1. That is a lie. Bushmills is a whiskey.

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    2. Covidia is subservient.

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  32. I detect notable unionist panic as England starts to deviate from the rest of the UK and go for more of a herd immunity type approach again. Now that Boris is immune.

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  33. Police across the UK have had a nightmare bank holiday weekend trying to police the lockdown, particularly in tourism hotspots — and are now frantically trying to work out what the relaxation of restrictions means for enforcement.

    In Cumbria, more than 100 fines were dished out from Friday to Sunday, assistant chief constable Andrew Slattery told the Guardian. “That’s more than we have issued in the entire rest of the lockdown period,” he said.

    “That comes down to a number of factors. One, I’m sad to say, is the newspaper headlines on Thursday last week, which very much gave the impression that lockdown was over and set the tone for the weekend. Then we had the hot weather and VE day on Friday, a lot of street parties and people drinking in the street. Our number of incidents doubled on Friday. Then into the weekend we had a large number of people who decided lockdown no longer applied and that they were free to drive the length and breadth of the country and had spurious reasons for doing so.”

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  34. Slattery said it would be hard to enforce social distancing in the most popular destinations in the Lake District: “If people come en masse to the Lake District next weekend it will make social distancing very difficult if they congregate in the same carparks, go on the same busy footpaths in the honeypot areas,” he said.

    Latest figures show that Barrow in Furness in west Cumbria has by far the highest infection rate in England with 804 cases per 100,000 people. Lancaster, on the other side of Morecambe Bay in Lancashire, is second with 513 and South Lakeland third with 482.

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  35. Constantine Mudge is Covidiot enemy of the people.

    Foreign barbarian

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    1. Constantine MudgeMay 11, 2020 at 9:30 PM

      One is relieved by the knowledge that our acquaintance is not mutual.

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  36. Did he really tell loved ones these deaths were 'trivial' or were those your words?

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/4-young-coronavirus-deaths-shocked-18018996

    4 young coronavirus deaths that shocked Britain

    I'm personally quite aware that the rise to me is very low. However, my opinion on how to deal with the virus isn't based on that, but the risk to others.

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    1. Unknown - what the professor, who talked a lot of sense, (but did not trivialise any death) did not comment on was to what extent any of those who catch the virus will have longer term health problems. This is unknown. The professor talked about the risk of dying only.

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    2. I have no problems with taking a risk with my own life. However, with infectious diseases, when you go out and about, you are taking a risk with other people's lives

      That's the problem with infectious diseases. It would be a super simple situation if people could just simply choose to put themselves at risk or not, and that choice would have zero effect on others.

      So, any choice to go for a strategy which it is known will increase the death rate is murder, even if the number are small.

      How many must die to avoid high taxes on the wealthy, and nationalisation / requisition? That is what Boris is worried about.

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    3. Constantine MudgeMay 11, 2020 at 3:10 PM

      While one would at all times maintain a chivalric stance in the defence of the vulnerable (and such ladies as Christine Glurt) it is necessary to pursue a grounded vision of our relationship to Gaia – something which I often ponder while I stride across the outlying fields of the estate.
      Sir, it is beyond question that we have a duty of care yet one day all our vessels will founder.
      And, as one of your distinguished countrymen has said “Cast a cold eye on life, on death, horseman pass by”.

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    4. Constantine MudgeMay 11, 2020 at 9:35 PM

      "Oh fie, thou varlet as would personate." One is unimpressed - if disconcerted - by this attempt sans honte at inconflecting one's missives.

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  37. Have you got a list of who would die in this scenario? I mean if folk are to agree to it, they need to know if they'll survive, whether their e.g. sister will be killed etc.

    And surely 'safely' requires no deaths at all? Given that even among young healthy adults there are numerous deaths, the modelling must be completely flawed.

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    1. This herd immunity madness keeps popping up. Total madness.

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    2. Do not concern yourself Skier it will be English who die.

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    3. Aw... Sad...

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    4. Covidia loves the idea of our neighbours becoming sick through its Tory overlords' incompetence. This is somehow still our fault. Such is the confused but angry position of the dwindling band of unionists.

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  38. An estimate published last week suggests 26,000 people in Scotland have been infected with the virus, Sturgeon said.

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  39. That's 26 000 out of 5 425 000 people, that's 0.5% of the population up until now, Skiers estimate is 1857 multiplied by 100 28 days ago or 187500 28 days ago, 7 times larger and that's without ANYBODY being infected in the last 28 days.

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    1. If only 26,000 have been infected for 1857 deaths, the death rate is 7%. Devastating.

      If only 0.5% have been infected, then lockdown has worked beyond our wildest dreams.

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    2. Nicola Surgeon was paraphrasing guidance from the document Covid-19: Framework for Decision Making:

      "The chart shows that, on current estimates (and these estimates do change as the data are updated on an ongoing basis), there are approximately 26,000 infectious
      people in Scotland (vertical axis). This number remains much too high at present to consider the virus under control."

      So absolutely not the total number of people who have been infected in Scotland but an estimate, on that day, of the number of people currently infectious.

      There is a big difference between those numbers.

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    3. Quoted verbatim from the Guardian but you are right two very different figures, and does make a lot more sense.

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  40. Interesting exchange with Tory MP Andrew Bridgen this morning on Good Morning Britain. Surely 14/28 day quarantine for visitors to the UK was the answer to this. Too late now.

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  41. Johnson and his cronies knew perfectly well that by muddying the waters people would behave in the way they have with everybody justifying any loophole they could find to disobey instructions or advice, and he'll do it again until England is fully back to work within the snap of your fingers and in that way he'll claim he and his government of shysters were not to blame because folk got fed up and broke the rules, thereby blaming the people for their own stupidity knowing he caused them to behave stupidly

    One person is smart, a whole load of people are stupid, monkey see monkey do

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