Thursday, June 26, 2025

Astounding YouGov MRP poll puts the SNP within eight seats of overtaking the Tories UK-wide - and with a 26% chance of holding the balance of power

The title of yesterday's blogpost was 'Using an election to double as an independence referendum is the ONLY way independence can and will ever be won. Resisting it just delays the inevitable and causes needless pain along the way.' I realised afterwards that I'd inadvertently 'done a Stew' and completely contradicted myself in the space of a few days - what I should have said is 'using an election to double as an independence referendum is the ONLY way independence can ever be won, unless the SNP get lucky and hold the balance of power at Westminster'.  The first YouGov MRP poll since the general election confirms that there's a non-trivial chance of the latter happening, because in 26% of simulations a centre-left Labour-led coalition can be cobbled together, but only with the SNP's help.  In most cases this would have to be a five-party coalition involving Labour, the Liberal Democrats, the SNP, the Greens and Plaid Cymru, but there's an 11% chance of four parties being enough and a 3% chance of three parties being enough (ie. Labour, the Lib Dems and the SNP).  So it would just be a question of whether the SNP are willing to play hardball and to make an independence referendum a condition of installing a Labour PM.

Remarkably, the seats projection shows the SNP within just eight seats of overtaking the Conservatives UK-wide - 

Reform UK 271 (+266)
Labour 178 (-233)
Liberal Democrats 81 (+9)
Conservatives 46 (-75)
SNP 38 (+29)
Greens 7 (+3)
Plaid Cymru 7 (+3)

The SNP would have roughly two-thirds of Scottish seats, and once again it's important to stress that this is in no way inconsistent with the result of the Hamilton by-election.  The Westminster seat of Hamilton & Clyde Valley would be one of the one-third of seats staying in unionist hands, with Labour projected to hold it by a margin of 30% to 27%, and with Reform in a strong third place on 23% - pretty much bang in line with the by-election result.

Most of the crude uniform swing projections from standard opinion polls have Reform failing to win any Scottish seats at all, but that is categorically not the case here - Reform would actually construct a 'mini light blue wall' in the south of Scotland, taking Ayr, Carrick & Cumnock, Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale & Tweeddale and Dumfries & Galloway.

One thing that is consistent with the uniform swing projections, though, is that Labour are shown to be on course to hold Na h-Eileanan an Iar by some distance, with the SNP not even in second place.  I'm fairly sure that's a wonky projection caused by the unusual baseline figures in the constituency from last year's election.  In reality, if the SNP take two-thirds of Scottish seats, Na h-Eileanan an Iar is pretty likely to be one of them unless Torcuil Crichton has built up a really sizeable personal vote.

Although the Tories are projected to hold a couple of Scottish seats, both of them are on a knife edge.  The SNP are only one point behind in Berwickshire, Roxburgh & Selkirk, while in Gordon & Buchan there is effectively a three-way tie between the Tories, the SNP and Reform UK on 24% apiece - with the Tories only ahead by a tiny fraction.

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27 comments:

  1. Can the poll predict turnout in Scotland?.

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  2. James, I did note the contradiction you refer to but to me a referendum using an election IS the only realistic way. I am sure it is no surprise to you or long term readers of SGP that I say that.

    Even if a party leader agrees to Indyref2 to become PM there is no guarantee they would honour it. They could keep leaving it till the end of the Parliament then call an election. There is no guarantee they would not scupper it. Britnats do not act in good faith. You cannae trust a Britnat.
    Perfidious Albion and all that.

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    1. Labour needn’t offer the SNP anything at all. Just the political damnation of being “Farage’s little helper” would be more than enough for them to back a Labour government without any concessions whatsoever.

      Even a stronger nationalist party would face that same ultimate wedge issue. “You’re either with us or you’re with the Faragists.”

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    2. "would be more than enough for them to back a Labour government without any concessions whatsoever"

      In unionist and London media doctrine that's how the SNP are supposed to act. That's also how the SNP absolutely must not act, and how their supporters must absolutely ensure they do not act, because they would be throwing away an opportunity that only comes up once or twice in a lifetime.

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    3. 12:39 here James. I quite agree with you. We absolutely cannot let that happen. If we have the leverage to prevent it, we should use it. The sooner the better.

      The trouble with that narrative is that, as you identified, it’s exactly what the media expects from the SNP and so it easily becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. If the election’s looking close at all, the party leaders will be asked about this incessantly. The tilt of the questions will always be to accept this preordained defeat for independence.

      So what do we do about it?

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    4. Declan is a raging SNP ultra which like Swinney means he disnae want a referendum and is a de facto Britnat.

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    5. IFS working hard for the union again

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    6. Anon at 4.28pm - so according to this anon troll advocating for an independence referendum is working for the union and not wanting a referendum is working for independence. 1984 lives on in modern day SNP ultras.
      By the way troll there is no union and by suggesting there is one gives succour to Westminster who manage this colonial arrangement.

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  3. Cue the list of usual SNP-baaad suspects...
    Who will be first?

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    1. Why is the SNP not making Independence a priority? Why did SNP lose the vast majority of its seats at the last G E? Who decided on the idiotic policy platform of “make Scotland a (insert party of choice) free zone? Do any of the N S cabal ever talk up Independence. Riddock doesn’t. Please answer.

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    2. Yo boo, anon at 11.15. Answers please.

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    3. I see Iran got its internet back

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  4. the MRP % for Hamilton and Clyde Valley (Lab 30, SNP 27, Reform 23) are very similar to the recent by-election for the Holyrood seat that overlaps with most of it (Lab 32, SNP 29, Reform 26). Differences are probably due to the other parties being squeezed more in the by-election, particularly the Lib Dems.

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    1. The MP for Hamilton and Clyde valley is none other than Mrs Morgan McSweeney.

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  5. with 38 seats england will be shiting itself

    all they will see are the glint of our claymores

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    1. England didn’t shit itself when the SNP had 48 seats, never mind 38!

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    2. nor 56 if I remember

      ah well

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  6. the steady hand of the great oarsman swinney will bring us to the promised land via the long march and the trail of tartan tears

    - ohyes

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  7. In no circumstances whatsoever the SNP can make a pact with Reform

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    1. Naturally. Only the wildest reverends in the Somerset twilight would ever dream of such a grotesque thing.

      The trouble is that because it’s so obvious that SNP and Reform are polar opposites, it’s then a foregone conclusion that the SNP can be counted on to do whatever it takes to block them from power, asking nothing in return. Bargaining indyref for a coalition? The SNP wouldn’t dare, and that’s the issue.

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    2. They have to dare. There's not even an argument, you just cannot throw away a bargaining lever like that.

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    3. the way labour are systematically attacking anyone who ever did or might ever vote for them seems to guarantee a reform landslide

      the "conspiracy theorist" (pattern recogniser) in me thinks it's deliberate

      why would reform ever throw scot nats a bone and risk blowing up the uk - 40% of the land, 90% of the hydrocarbons, all the cheap renewable electricity from wind, the sub pens - just walking out the door on a show of hands ... no sane englishman would risk that

      they call us subsidy junkies in public but in private they know they need us - without Scotland the pound would be 80 cents on the dollar and England would implode - they import 44% of their food FGS

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    4. if Satan himself could give us independence, I would not hesitate - but there is no Satan and Farage is an empty coat, an actor who reads from a script written by MI5

      - the "satan" who can produce the realpolitik to get independence is fully real and is a half Scottish golf nut who lives in the white house and owns a lot of property here; imagine if he was on our side

      do you want to be free and make the sacrifices it needs or live chained to these historically evil bastards for ever, robbed senseless daily, denied the life that should have been yours, but secure in knowing you never sold out your "principles"

      I hope your principles can keep you warm in the winter

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    5. Then again you can't depend on the Liberal Democrats not putting Reform in if it gives them a hint of a share in government

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  8. we need another mandate, then a national conversation about what it means to be scottish, then a purge of penised-women bigots, then, go for net zero, smash capitalism, and then, when all the ducks are in a row, we really go for it this time, like we mean it

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  9. Unlike the Hamilton by election England isn't swayed by what the Orange Lodge and the Rangers supporters club tells them how to vote

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