Thursday, December 5, 2024

It's back to the 1920s as Labour revert to being the THIRD party of British politics, according to bombshell Find Out Now poll

I've basically got no time at all because I'm trying to get ready for my long-delayed tryst with a certain Alba Party committee this evening, so I'll just give you the basic numbers for now.  They're pretty astonishing.  It'll be hard for anyone ever again to charge Jeremy Corbyn with supposedly making Labour "unelectable" when Starmer has just taken his party to 23% and third place, opening up a non-trivial possibility of a soft-fascist party taking power in the UK before this decade is out.

GB-wide voting intentions (Find Out Now, 4th December 2024):

Conservatives 26% (-1)
Reform UK 24% (+2)
Labour 23% (-2)
Liberal Democrats 11% (-1)
Greens 9% (-)
SNP 3% (-)
Plaid Cymru 1% (-)

22 comments:

  1. I would tend to take this poll with the proverbial 'pinch of salt' at the moment. Things will settle down in due course for Labour but it has to be said that they've had a terrible start due entirely to their own political incompetence.

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    1. In my view things will get a lot worse for Labour. The real mid-term unpopularity hasn't even begun to hit them yet. They could easily go sub-20.

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    2. Labour’s political incompetence dosen’t come close to the rotten to the core SNP.

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    3. Whats the lowest % the SNP has achieved? Last time the SNP was 3rd party in Scotland?

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    4. Anon 6.49. Hi Stu !

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  2. What a nasty right wing electorate south of the border.

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    1. They should put them in train and send them to Africa.

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  3. Anon at 5.42pm . There are a nasty bunch but many of right wing voters are thoughtless rather than nasty. Also too easily influenced by the lying right wing media. After all they could vote for Libdems or Greens instead. Labour have to take a lot of blame though. They have gone along with much of the right wing agenda instead of challenging it.

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  4. It reminds me of 1992 and Black Wednesday, that was the day the Tories lost the next GE but it took a further four and half years to get rid of them.
    At the time of the GR, no one knew who Stammer was other than he wasn’t the Tories but now he has defined himself as a heartless capitalist with his hand out for a freebie.
    Abolishing the Winter Fuel Allowance
    Not lifting the 2-child cap
    In Scotland doing nothing about Grangemouth Authoritarianism and two-tier justice.
    Defines him
    His focus on ‘be kind, virtue signaling’ with the assisted dying bill as a favour to his pal Esther. Shows him to be out of touch with the people and why start with such a divisive bill?

    In contrast the SNP seem to be getting their act together. The budget was a bit smoke and mirrors but the benefits will kick in in time for HR 26

    I’m no longer sure of a Labour win and SNP loss.
    I am reasonably sure Reform will probably get into double figures which might make for a Reform - Labour administration which would be fun (!), In particular because it would be unstable and a second election could be along well before 2031

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  5. Random Totty From Freedom SquareDecember 5, 2024 at 6:40 PM

    I've decided to make a public social media announcement that I'm splitting up with Jimmy.
    It's because of his obsession with Disciplinary Eve.

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    1. That totally freaked me out because she does actually call me Jimmy. Is that you, love?

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  6. James must be in there, right now. Doing it.

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    1. Stuck in the waiting room. I'm not the only one, it seems.

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    2. "Try them in batches like the French Revolution!"

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    3. The tumshies have begun to roll.

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    4. Celine, darling! Lovely to see you back after that horrid accident.

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  7. There's a bandwagon emerging that working class english (and scots) see their identities under threat, mixed in with cost of living, a feeble Labour Party who are, in theory, supposed to stand up for the less fortunate be a poor imitation. Times are changing.

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  8. With all the usual caveats, the Scottish sub-set of this poll seems to have -
    SNP 39%,
    Labour 21%,
    Cons 13%,
    Reform, Greens and Lib Dems 8%.
    If true, quite a gap opening up between SNP and Labour.
    Interesting.

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    1. That is actually quite encouraging.

      Labour have been waiting for power, expecting power and now look unready for it.

      Momentum is a big thing. Still think the mood for change will be high but Labour may not be seen as that vehicle!

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  9. The revival of the SNP under John Swinney has been nothing short of remarkable. Think he has proven a good few people wrong with how he has done. I'd imagine there is a fair few people eating humble pie now.

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    1. I've been saying the very same as you about Celine Gottwald. She's flexible and adaptable. A true leader.

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