Sunday, September 3, 2023

End of an era as the Wings Over Scotland website officially abandons its support for Scottish independence, putting on record what's been clear from social media posts for around a year - but rest assured that Scot Goes Pop and other leading sites from the 2014 period remain unequivocally pro-independence

One thing that has bemused me over the last year is that every so often someone has approached me in full-blown "intervention" mode and told me that I need to unite with others for the sake of the independence cause.  That sounds perfectly reasonable until you drill down into what those people actually mean, and 9 times out 10 it turns out they actually don't want me (or anyone else) to unite with others who support independence - indeed in many cases they want me to declare all-out-war-to-the-death against the largest pro-independence party and to try get their MPs replaced by unionists.  Instead, the 'unity' being urged is mostly with a high-profile individual who now votes Tory and who used to support independence but no longer does.

I always point out, in a state of some incredulity, that if you want to achieve a political goal, you generally unite with people who believe in that goal, and crucially you unite in opposition to the people who do not believe in it.  As a supporter of independence, the only circumstances in which it might make sense for me to unite with someone who doesn't want independence would be if we were aiming for some sort of grand national compromise between Yessers and unionists.  That's not where we are right now.  We actually are trying to win independence, not something less than it.

That fairly unanswerable point generally provokes indignation from the wannabe 'peacemakers'.  "Of course the fact that Stuart Campbell votes Tory doesn't make him some sort of 'Tory voter'.  Don't be silly, James.  And the suggestion that he no longer supports independence is ridiculous.  There's no more passionate supporter of independence than the Rev, that's why he's saying he wouldn't vote for it!"

I mean, people are quite rightly scornful of so-called "gender woo", but I'd have to say that the idea you can vote Tory without being a Tory voter, and that you can support independence by opposing it, is taking the mind-bending metaphysical gibberish into a whole new dimension.  It's thus something of a relief that Mr Campbell has randomly chosen today of all days to put the matter beyond all dispute with an article on Wings itself that makes clear he would not vote in favour of independence in any new referendum held in the prevailing political conditions.  He would not vote No either, seemingly for old times' sake, but it's plain that he'd be wanting No to win because he thinks an independent Scotland would be a "nightmarish Aunt Lydia nanny state".  He'd previously announced his abandonment of support for independence on social media quite a long time ago, but many people seem to regard his social media posts as throwaway in nature, so I suspect that this may be the first time they realise that his departure from the pro-independence camp is genuine and that his announcement of it can be regarded as definitive.

To be clear, Mr Campbell's defection is not something I welcome.  Indeed it's a matter of considerable regret, because it means that a website with a substantial readership (nowhere near as big as he claims, but substantial nonetheless) is now working against our cause rather than in favour of it.  However, until today we had the worst of both worlds, because people were deluding themselves that black was white and that Scotland could somehow be led to independence by a person who wants Scotland to remain in the United Kingdom.  At least now we can collectively start facing up to the new reality, and find new constructive constellations among those of us who are actually still inside the independence movement.

Doubtless a few people will cling to their denial due to Mr Campbell attempting the "Schrodinger's Yesser" trick by claiming elsewhere in his article that he remains in favour of independence "in principle".  But the unspoken words at the end of that sentence are "but not in practice".  Labour have been "in principle" supportive of democratic reform of the House of Lords for over a century, but have always failed to do anything about it when in government.  If you say you are in favour of a reform in principle but oppose it in practice, you are in fact an upholder of the status quo.  That's exactly the position Mr Campbell is now in.  The only objective and credible test of whether someone is a supporter of independence is whether they would vote in favour of it if given a chance, and Mr Campbell has clearly indicated he would not do so.  By definition, therefore, Wings Over Scotland is no longer a pro-independence website.  That's regrettable, but it's also the indisputable reality.

The only caveat on all of this is that Mr Campbell has stated that he might in the future revert to supporting independence if the SNP perform a mass clear-out of the "deranged ideologues".  There would only be a chance of that happening in the near-term or medium-term if Kate Forbes replaces Humza Yousaf as leader, and admittedly that's perfectly conceivable - Ms Forbes has established herself as the most likely successor if the unpopular Mr Yousaf is toppled due to some sort of entirely foreseeable electoral calamity.  But there's certainly no guarantee of that happening, and there's also no guarantee that Ms Forbes would go far enough as leader to satisfy Mr Campbell, or indeed that anything at all would even be capable of satisfying him.  My suspicion is that, while most of us who left the SNP did so in desperation because we wanted to get the independence campaign back on track, Mr Campbell turned against the SNP at around the same time because he was becoming Yoon-curious.  For him, the reasons he has found to hate the SNP leadership are a gateway drug that is leading him towards out-and-out unionism.  In fact he may well already be there and is in the process of trying to break the news to his most devoted readers by installments to avoid alienating them with a sudden admission that even they might find too unpalatable.  His hint at the end of the article that he may not even be "in principle" supportive of independence for very much longer would tend to support that suspicion. Wherever precisely he is on the journey, though, there seems little doubt about the final destination.

This generates a major peril for the Alba Party, of which I am a member.  There is substantial overlap between the Alba membership and the Wings readership, and many senior figures in Alba routinely praise Mr Campbell to the skies on social media.  But we simply cannot afford to allow Mr Campbell to be the Pied Piper figure who leads us to being a "Yes in principle" party or a "Yes but not really" party or a "we might be Yes one day but only when and if a long list of terms and conditions are met in full" party.  We only have a future as what we started out as - a totally committed "Yes, just Yes, no ifs, no buts, no caveats" party.  Indeed the whole point of Alba's existence is to be far more full-throttled about independence than the SNP.  If we start doing the total opposite, we might as well never have bothered getting the party off the ground.

It's become commonplace to observe that "I didn't leave the SNP, the SNP left me".  Well, by the same token, I can honestly say that I didn't leave Wings, Wings left me.  I was once a staunch supporter of him, and long-term readers might remember that in 2017 I defended him to the hilt in his absence at a sort of alternative media "summit" in Edinburgh attended by a passive-aggressive Mike Small and an openly hostile Angela Haggerty. I have no regrets about doing that, because at the time Mr Campbell was still a pro-independence blogger and on balance was still a strong asset for our movement.  My own political views have remained constant since 2017, while Mr Campbell's have darted off in a radically different direction, in a way that could never have realistically been predicted.  It's also fair to say I had no way of predicting in 2017 that Mr Campbell would behave in a frankly unforgivable way towards me personally four years later, first by sending me an abusive email out of the blue for literally no other purpose than to call me a "c**t", and then the following night getting his solicitor David Halliday to attempt to intimidate me with thinly-veiled threats of what might happen if I refused to give in to his outrageous demands that I should delete Douglas Clark's criticisms of him in a comment that had already been published in the Scot Goes Pop comments section.  That, of course, is a further reason why it was always barking mad for people to suggest I could or should somehow "unite" with Mr Campbell.  It's impossible to make peace with someone who has overstepped the mark so outrageously unless genuine contrition is shown later, and that was never going to happen in a million years.  

For what it's worth, my own response to the question "do you support Scottish independence?" is not "yes, in principle", but simply "yes".  My answer to the question "would you still support Scottish independence if it meant trans self-ID would be introduced?" is "yes".  My answer to the question "would you still support Scottish independence if you were required to worship weekly at a statue of Fiona Robertson, inscribed Mother Of The Nation?" is "yes".  My answer to the question "would you still support Scottish independence if it ushered in twenty unbroken years of Tory rule?" is "yes".  My answer will always be "yes", irrespective of which hypothetical you hit me with, because my support for independence is not rooted in transient bread and butter policy matters but in the simple, fundamental belief that Scotland is a country and should be able to choose its own governments.  It's entirely up to the Scottish people which governments and policies they choose, and even if I think they made the wrong decision, I'll still be glad they were able to make it and I'll still want them to be free to keep making their own choices in the future.

Say what you like about Brit Nats, but their sense of identity is authentic and deep-rooted enough that they don't start pining for rule from Paris or Berlin just because an election goes a way they don't like or because they disapprove of a particular law passed by Westminster.  The fact that all it took for Mr Campbell to abandon independence was for Scots to vote in a way he disapproved of suggests that his belief in the cause was always much, much shallower than most of us ever suspected.  In retrospect, his weird desire to eradicate the Gaelic language, something which I've literally never encountered in any other Yesser, should perhaps have been taken as a massive red flag.

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On a semi-related matter, I was recently asked by an anonymous commenter to write a blogpost about a factually inaccurate claim of truly astounding scale that Mr Campbell included in a Wings article.  But the comment itself explains the inaccuracy and the surrounding issues admirably - you can read it HERE.

30 comments:

  1. Well said, James. And congratulations on raising £1500 over the last ten days or so, that's a hell of an effort from Scot Goes Pop readers. I know you still have some distance to travel to reach the funding target, but the wind is blowing in the right direction at least. Hopefully you'll now be able to continue.

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  2. Sad to see Campbell go, but the rest of us have work to do.

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  3. Wings has been on this path for the better part of a decade now. I well remember on this very blog, around 2017/19, lampooning the fact one day Wings would declare that the only way to support independence was to vote No in any future referendum, and that by the time he did so, his base of supporters would be so radicalised into the Cult of Campbell that they would scarcely blink at being told a No vote was in fact a vote for independence.

    As I recall, "Independence For Scotland" jeered with fury that Campbell was a true "Aye or Die" sort of guy, and would never be swayed from that. He'll likely ignore this blogpost entirely, or deflect with some asinine unrelated piffle from the WGD comments section, as has been his wont for years when you've raised uncomfortable questions about Campbell's true agenda.

    The reality of Campbell and his supporters is that they are approaching Trumpian levels of post truth delusion, and have been for several years now. A No vote is a Yes vote, a Tory vote is an independence vote, smashing the SNP irreparably is the only route to achieving the SNP's goal. It's all very apposite, given how excitedly and prematurely he announced that Trump had crushed the "Woke Agenda of Joe Biden" (snigger!) on election night 2020. You need only look back at the rampant glee of his supposedly progressive supporters in the comments. They were beside themselves that Our Donny was seemingly on course to win re-election. Naturally, when the actual results of the election started coming through, Wingsy was nowhere to be found. It no longer fit his agenda, so the matter of Joe Biden's 2020 election was promptly set aside as though it had never even happened at all.

    Progressive - even vaguely centrist - independence supporters these people are not, and have not been for a long, long time. It's baffling to me that a man as astute as Salmond saw an ally in Campbell, however briefly, around 2020/21. Because the wheels in Campbell's mind had already begun to turn against independence. But it's also quite noticeable that Salmond left Campbell in the dirt following the 2021 disappointment for Alba. It's a shame that much of the rest of Alba didn't follow Salmond's lead on that one.

    Good for you for sticking to your guns all these years, James. And good for you for not being cowed in calling out Campbell's long-choreographed about-face. It has been a long time coming, and you are one of the few who has been clear-eyed enough to challenge him at each step along the road.

    Hopefully those Alba members who spend their days neck deep in the Campbell comments section will now see the light. They're being led by the nose. The idea that Campbell cares at all about Alba is laughable. He viewed them as a momentary vehicle to destroying the SNP, nothing more. The moment they didn't appear capable of doing so, he discarded them like a used tissue. That will only become more explicit as time goes on. Look out for claims that Salmond has been compromised by the "NuSNP" that Campbell devotees will dutifully regurgitate when the time comes.

    Some may laugh at that notion. But plenty laughed 5 or 6 years ago at the notion Campbell would ever oppose independence, when it nevertheless became clear that was the trajectory he was on.

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    1. I’m an Alba member who couldn’t care about Alba. I also see them as alternative to SNP. Nothing more. They are yet to prove they are anything more.

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    2. “As I recall………..”
      You recall wrongly you complete tosser. I never said that.
      Independence For Scotland

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    3. “Jeered with fury” - who writes your scripts - my money is on that tosser mungo pony. Jeered with fury - πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ only a Poundland Rankin could come up with such shit.

      Independence for Scotland - on holiday again.

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  4. Don't scoff, but I honestly think Campbell may be angling for paid work at the Spectator. Daisley and Macwhirter have demonstrated a clear career path for anti-trans rights obsessives who are willing to turn their backs on the Yes movement and become born-again unionists. (Not that Daisley was ever Yes, but he was far less hostile to us than he is now.)

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    1. My goodness, has Iain Macwhirter gone to the dark side as well?

      I am so out the loop, that's bizarre! How times change.

      We miss Ian Bell.

      I've come off twitter so maybe missing certain molehills but I do suspect Wings has a disproportionate influence amongst grassroots, rather than the mainstream population. Which in turn spoils any mo before it can get started in this general population. Who'd have thought independence grassroots could be demoralised to such an extent by trans issues? Hell, I have my doubts too about it but it's insane to make it a reason for being against independence. It's blatantly a global phenomen Western politics are dealing with.
      When it comes down to it, it seems like trans issues and the Salmond affair have driven a wedge right through the grassroots. Such a daft couple of reasons to backslide on a nation's sovereignty. Embarrassing to be honest.

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  5. Substantial readership? I, for one, have not visited his site for years. I support the LGBTQ+ (maybe I forgot some letters), but these are two different issues and to conflate the two dilutes both.

    I'm not surprised that he doesn't care about Scotland. He lives in England. Just as we accept other nationalities as being [national identifier] Scottish, we should also be ready to accept that some Scots may leave.

    I can think of many examples.

    I feel sorry for the many people who have given MONEY to him, thinking that he was fighting their cause.

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  6. Yesterday's march in Edinburgh was big, good natured and cheerfully determined to go forward. Humza was near the back of the speaking order and many did not feel the need to wait to hear him. The usual, weasely little band of unwashed yoon misfits were mocked or ignored. It will take more than one march to be sure but it felt like we were on the move again.
    Interestingly, there were a just a few SNP branch banners but a couple of them had unequivocal, pro independence slogans on them.

    No one that I spoke to had any lingering illusions about a begged for Section 30 being the way forward.

    If we drive home the need for a united front among us, where differences are debated rather than denounced, and pick up sensible ideas eg 'Salvo' on taking rather than pleading for our independence, we may yet be able to gradually squeeze out the Sturgeonite Stalinists and careerist troughers who have poisoned the 'leadership' of the movement.

    A long hard road ahead but, at last, it's outline seems clearer - time to hitch up for a sustained push. See you all on the road...

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  7. I see he's at it: ridiculing yesterday's march now. His pics are worthy of BBC Scotland. You'd read just the same article—and the comments to match—at a loyal Brit publication.

    Anyway, unlike them: I was there. Easily the biggest march I've been on since the pandemic really threw our momentum. (I was out of the country during AUOB Glasgow this year, though, so can't speak for that one.) I stood at the starting point and timed 30 minutes for the whole march to pass by. Lots of familiar faces, but also ones I have never seen or not in years.

    The Greens were in strong attendance, and looked remarkably ordinary and calmly determined people compared to the skewed vision some blogs make of them. I still think Slater's a diddy and Harvie's a numpty, but the party members I saw had their heart in the right place, and weren't sitting it out at home. Their chant is better than the one about our neighbour's Tories, too.

    There was also a notably better turnout among the young than I've seen at an AUOB in many years. Not a majority, by any means, but much less of a curiosity than they've been since 2020.

    So I’m feeling pretty good having been on it. Better about us, the movement, than our leadership of course. But we're still here and we still want it just as surely. If but for the right general who speaks in actions…

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  8. The Glasgow march was great to will be interesting to see what's going to happen around the next AUOB march in Glasgow?

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  9. Many of us have suspected the gentleman from Bath as being a 'plant' for a very long time. The fact that he has now so openly demonstrated his unionism should be ringing alarm bells with more than a few prominent people among the Alba Party membership.

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  10. Without commenting on the person, or the blog I was banned from for saying about all the GRR writings "Wake me up when we get back to Indy" (though the same can be said for the SNP) this from the article:

    "The idea that we could vote for independence and sort it out with all these deranged ideologues still in place is a leap of faith far too great to be credible. They have to go first, then we can talk"

    is what I get from all the indy-curious people I know, and I have no answer for them, except to say they'd be voting for Independence not the SNP. That they could vote Labour, a Labour that could well actually be Labour for a refreshing change, and that Labour might well win. Or Conservatives who wouldn't be Tories as they'd be Scottish ones for a change. But they're not convinced in the slightest, best I can achieve is damage limitation.

    "In the meantime, I’m clinging on to my belief with my fingernails."

    I have my moments, but for me, the sooner we're Indy the sooner we can get back to normal politics where we vote for parties on policies, not their stance on Independence, and not for a party who cling on to Greens and their extreme nonsense to stay in power power power.

    "Walker and his army of howling rainbow stormtroopers have very nearly succeeded in changing my mind."

    Circulation and reach of the National is low, and Walker is long past the time he should have been put out to pasture. He's not the man he was back in 2014.

    "And that’s how it happens, readers"

    It is to the undecideds and soft noes - and perhaps some of the soft yesses. Dare I mention, in no particular order, GRR, named stranger, banning fishing and swimming so as to be world-leading in 10%, 20%, 30% ... HPMA, 20 minute neighbourhoods ban the car, walk or hurple, and carry 50Kg on your back, DRS, all the most incompetent pieces of Government beaten only by Truss, screw the small business with Euro 5 vans, £££ heat pumps + £15,000 insulation costs for those who are struggling to get by ...

    ... whatever happened to Independence, number 2 on the SNP Constitution?

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    1. Dare I say it. One of your better posts Admiral.

      Independence for Scotland on holiday.

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    2. I’ve certainly lost my faith in the SNP. Wind time back to 2018/2019 and I was sure Nicola would lead Scotland to independence. The time was right. England was leaving us. Independence wasn't just some distant, long term ambition: it was right there for us to grab as the British state crumbled.

      And now it's all this.

      My faith in independence itself is still 100%. All these bad faith rhetorical exercises demanding dystopian "what ifs" about Indy Scotland but no such thing for the UK state within which we are captured? Come off it. If we're going to make mistakes—and we will, everyone does—let them be OUR mistakes. Not the Poll Tax, forced on us. Not Trident, forced on us and extracted from our resources. Not Brexit. And not the hideous treatment of our fellow human beings who Scotland (and all of Europe, frankly) badly needs as our populations age out of the workforce. We can't do a thing about any of those in Britain because Tory England wants it and they're ten times our vote. Westminster is an electoral college and we are permanently trumped.

      With independence: don't like the government? Vote them out. Yes, you, dear Scot, can actually vote the government out of power. I know, right? What kind of madness is this? What foolish dream we don't deserve?

      Proud "Yes, buts" are colonised minds. It's the cringe. England wouldn't make these mistakes in ruling us. It must be us who're just "not genetically programmed" to be adults. Give us a posh chap in a Land Rover, please master!

      Independence is how we grow out of this. All of us. Those against it most of all.

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  11. I very much enjoyed your exchange with Mr Campbell and his lawyer. I've never really taken to Mr C and his blog, even in their heyday, I have always found him arrogant, high handed and insufficiently collegiate and was amazed when Alec Salmond jumped into bed with him.

    But then I was also amazed that Alec would choose to divide the Yes movement over a petty personal squabble with a previous leader.

    I also have left the SNP although not to join AC and his anti-SNP fifth column.

    I joined the Greens, where I foresee continued electoral success as the obviousness of the imminent climate disaster becomes terrifyingly real. And we wont need Just Stop Oil to keep it on the TV either. The extreme weather we see everyday on our screens will do just as nicely.

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    1. I've gone non partisan. I support redistribution of wealth, personal responsibility, environmental issues and reducing inequality and my identity as a Scot has political as well as cultural meaning. I dont think any party has the balls to make big calls.

      former member of the SNP until I saw a CEO is on 95k a year. I honestly used to think being a political party supporter/member was something you did in your spare time or for expenses for the love of the cause. Not a career that takes members monies to pay salaries 3 times the MEDIAN of the nation.

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    2. Hello Dr De-la-Zouche, I'm sorry but I think you have a lot of things wrong here.. Alec Salmond never jumped into bed with Campbell - or anyone else so I believe from the trial verdict. An interview and an article are not jumping into bed, nor is the publishing of a book (with RMcA). I have never thought much of Campbell but his work on the Independence Referendum Fund was in the public interest and it highlights the lack of scrutiny and investigative journalism in the MSM, not dissimilar to the Rangers, succulent lamb, James Traynor, fiasco exposed by Alex Thompson. ALBA cannot be described as a fifth column its just a political party. Just as unionism is not homogenous nor is the independence movement, it could have remained so but the SNP have let so many down badly it is they who have become the 'exclusive' faction - it seems some YES supporters are not welcome. I am not a Salmond supporter but if you recall he left the party as soon as allegations of criminality became public, he did so in order to spare the party any publicity problems. When acquitted he was not allowed to re-join the party by the party hierarchy, here is a link for you:
      https://www.thenational.scot/news/18328028.will-alex-salmond-welcomed-back-snp/
      I accept it is not good that we have another independence party competing with the other but lets face it the SNP do not know how to deliver independence. We have a first minister with the charisma of a modern studies teacher and a plan that resembles a blank sheet pf paper. Phrases such as 'this is the aim' when pinned down on his strategy for independence are not exactly motivational, its more of the same ie. "we have no idea what to do and are to afraid to do anything anyway."
      As for the greens I can't understand how you can shift to them. If there is one thing the greens are poor on it is environmental issues. They are absolutely clueless about how to tackle these issues. As an ardent environmentalist of forty years experience this mob have no idea. Compare their vision and ideas to that of other green parties around Europe and you will see what I mean.

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    3. "but his work on the Independence Referendum Fund"

      Interesting use of the word "work" there.

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    4. WT I've used both "jumping into bed" and "fifth column" simply as subjective metaphors to illustrate a point. As their meaning is not literal I am at a loss as to how you can conclude that they are wrong. Do you actually mean you don't like them?

      By jumping into be I mean getting together, joining forces, helping each other out. It cannot be denied that AC had nothing to do with Mr Campbell when he was leader of the SNP and FM and gave no endorsement (as far as I am aware) to Mr Campbell's wee books at that time. This means that they were not (metaphorically) "in bed" at that time. However, after AS's problems (I do not intend to discuss them) he was more than happy to have Mr Campbell write the wee Alba book and wasn't Mr Campbell to be giving up his blog to err help out? That is the (metaphorically) "getting into bed"

      As for "fifth column" that is literally a group of people who undermine something. Doesn't setting up a rival party to split the yes vote undermining independence?

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    5. WT as for the Greens. I'm afraid I entirely agree with you regarding there hopelessness. I'm hoping that will change. When I first joined the SNP in 1989 or 1990 they where much like the Greens are now. So lets wait a

      Also if you read the work of Prof Jem Bendall and Dr Rupert Read you will find that they have concluded that the Doomsday Clock is not at 30 seconds to midnight but actually already 5 minutes past. If they are correct, then this means that an existential threat to the planet and all life on it is not in the distant future but within the lifetimes of people alive now vis 30-50 years.

      It must be evident to us all that the climate is changing and becoming less predictable and more extreme. Were having a heatwave in September, there are floods in the Nevada desert, floods and wild fires everywhere, Antarctic ice melting, 40 degree temperature in England etc etc etc

      These scientist predict that large tracts of the planet will be uninhabitable and agriculture, which depends on a stable and predictable weather cycle, will collapse.

      If this is true, then trans rights and indeed Scottish Independence itself will both be moot points.

      I think the above adequately explains why I joined the Greens. I still want an independent Scotland and I would rather join Mr Campbell in the ranks of the Tories than join what I regard as fifth column independence wrecking ball led by an unhinged has been who should have gone off quietly into that great good night as a respected and successful elder statesman.

      The Greens are indeed hopeless, In face of the increasing obvious climate disaster they are instead banging on about trans rights and dueling the A9. They, like the SNP, have lost focus on the prize. For the Greens the climate emergency should trump everything (in my considered opinion it should be top of the agenda for everybody) while the SNP should be laser focused on Independence.

      The Green movement is becoming electorally successful, look at their performance in the local elections. They came very close to getting a Councillor in Dundee's Coldside ward where they were within a few hundred votes of taking a seat from Labour. I'm predicting that, that success will continue.

      I hope that explains thing for you,

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  12. We've gone from Project fear to Operation Demoralisation

    A notable part of a recent Scottish Prism was when a question came about Scottish Labour. The panel were almost stumped for what to say as the entire show seems about attacking the SNP. No thought has really gone into combating Unionist attack lines/parties anymore.

    For clarity, I can't really be bothered with the SNP either but it's remarkable the volume of attack lines on SNP as opposed to Unionism in the last few years, from within the pro-independence movement.

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    1. To be fair to them—and like James, I don’t consider myself at home on either side, but in the Scunnered Middle—they consider the National and the SNP’s own “but won’t you just look at the Tories!” as plenty enough of an attack on unionism, albeit a self serving one in keeping said professionals cosy in their careers: keeping us waiting for as long as we all live.

      The SNP is squatting on the Independence movement. I agree that much. But how to go about fixing it? Burn it down? Convince the overwhelming majority of pro independence voters that this isn’t total lunacy? I don’t buy it.

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    2. Well Anonymous, we know what the unionists are, it has been the disappointing realisation of what the SNP had become.I had my doubts about Sturgeon - such a poor memory recall-well before Covid - her grandstanding during Covid was awful.

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  13. Anonymous - we pretty well know what the unionists are, the disappointment being expressed is in recognition of what the SNP have become.Me? I sussed out Sturgeon before Covid, her grandstanding presentations during Covid hugely confirmed her to be a fraud.

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  14. A tour de force, James. In many ways it's a relief not to have to take Wings seriously anymore.

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  15. You've got to love the Wings cult followers tying themselves up in knots trying to come up with reasons why Campbell saying he wouldn't vote for independence doesn't affect his status as a pro-indy blogger, and that you're making the whole thing up, James. Even if one is naive enough to take Campbell's new position totally at face value, it basically amounts to "NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR INDEPENDENCE". If that's a pro-independence position, logically Theresa May was a pro-independence Prime Minister. Let's get real, lads.

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  16. Not for the first time, I find myself wondering how genuinely pro-independence he ever was. Was he sincere in his beliefs, or was he simply canny enough to identify a gap in the market?

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  17. Campbell has been laughing all the way to the bank for years living off the hopes of others, he's a despicable creature, of course that's par for the course with Tories

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