So here we are in the second week of June 2022, the referendum we've been guaranteed by December 2023 is thus supposedly just eighteen months away at most, we have a BBC reporter not unreasonably making the point that activity on independence campaigning seems peculiarly absent if the referendum is actually going to take place on the promised timetable, and yet Nicola Sturgeon has chosen this moment to reiterate the guarantee of a 2023 referendum in absolutely watertight language.
"People in Scotland will have the ability to make their views known on independence whether Boris Johnson is Prime Minister or not because that is democracy and that’s what I’m focused on. I have a mandate to give people the choice within the first half of this parliament and I intend to honour that mandate and I will set out more details on that shortly." - Nicola Sturgeon, SNP leader and First Minister of Scotland, 7th June 2022
For the uninitiated, the first half of this parliament ends midway during the autumn of 2023, and therefore Ms Sturgeon is once again explicitly guaranteeing that a referendum will have been held by then.
So Philip Sim and the BBC really ought to set their cynicism to one side. It may look like nothing is going on at the moment, but shortly, by God just you wait, shortly there's going to be activity and stuff. Details, even. You won't know what's hit you.
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I've asked this before but I still don't understand.
ReplyDeleteWhy is the Sturgeon leadership building up the talk of independence without having apparently done any of the preparation on currency, constitution, defence, fiscal arrangements etc etc ?
Are they actually going to go ahead and if not how do they propose to maintain credibility with their support and financial base?
Have they cut some kind of deal with the British state ?
The SNPs "financial base" IS the British State - Short Money.
DeleteWithout it they are bankrupt & "Mr & Mrs" Murrell don't have a pot to pee in. No indyref fund to steal from this time.
That's really all you need to know - as always cui bono (or follow the money)....
That's why they are trying to raise money under the YES banner whilst keeping it hidden in the small print that it is actually going to a political party - the SNP - to spend it on anything they want eg bigger salaries for Foote and Murrell oh and let's not forget Ruddick. Funny how the Inquiry into the actions of Sturgeon, her government and special advisers regarding the persecution of Salmond never asked Ruddick what did she actually do when Murrell sent her the infamous messages. Funny also how an Inquiry into the actions of special advisers never actually asked any of Sturgeon's special advisers to attend the Inquiry for questioning - not one.
DeleteCheck out Sturgeon's obvious irritation with questions about another indyref.
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/41yo3aOCNWY
"Shortly " there will be another essay from Sturgeon. This one will be on the benefits of carrots to your bank balance.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if the SNP already has a secret exit ramp in place. What's the great get-out clause? It seems very strange that hardly anything has been prepared for a referendum (in the public eye at least - not unimportant), and yet the FM is confidently assuring us that it's going ahead. Does she have a cunning plan or has she taken a leaf out of the BJ book and is now winging it completely on a day-by-day basis? We shall find out soon enough - I just hope she doesn't let a lot of people down. I will be the first to apologise if my fears were unfounded and it all goes ahead as promised (and we win) in 2023.
ReplyDeleteLuigi I hate to break it to you, but it'll be S30 refused, vote SNP in GE 2024 so the SNP can hold the balance of power in a Labour administration and secure an indyref in the parliament in return for confidence supply etc. All SNP supporters will fall in behind the strategy, as it's just after the failed attempt for 2023 and an indyref is just about on the horizon.
DeleteFor me, it just about runs, but that has to be it for the SNP, if it doesn't deliver then we all need to push for a new radical approach. The SNP will have had their chance and some, and I hope it doesn't come to this, but if it does, a mass exodus has to ensue. Alba needs to still be there to pick up the pieces.
It will be.
DeleteIndy, as if BRITISH Labour would agree to what you are suggesting - a sec 30. As if the SNP would vote against Labour and support the Tories. So sorry Indy I am not buying your forecast. I have lost track of how often people have said this is the last chance for the SNP. Why do we have to keep waiting until Sturgeon has destroyed the SNP and the YES movement.
DeleteWGD numpties thicko hamster Hamish100 and nasty numpty Dr JIm are cock-a-hoop.
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DeleteBlah blah Blackford have you any bull, Yes Sir, Yes Sir three shoogly pegs full.
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DeleteIs "shortly" being defined on a geological or a cosmological timescale?
ReplyDeleteMr Kelly, you have made a grievous error on the countdown clock. The earliest possible date for an election is Thursday April 6th. When one peruses the latest statements from the Scottish Government, the full 20 million is allocated to the 2023/24 fiscal year. Observing that budget is the Gold Standard and there must be no deviation therefrom. Furthermore, it is international best practice to listen to our youngers and betters, for it is they, solely, who understand how the modern world works.
ReplyDeleteShortly and soon. The twin words that can mean any timescale you want. As in wee Patrick Harvie stating many months ago that a date would soon ( or was it shortly) be set by the Scottish Parliament to debate a date for indyref2. Still waiting Patrick.
ReplyDeleteShortly or anytime soon some WGD numpties will realise they are in fact numpties.
The FM may have boxed herself into a corner this time and if she doesn't deliver she will be vulnerable. ALBA have been very nice up to now but soon they will have to up their game and go for it. Choose the moment to strike by all means, but take the fight to the people that are really letting us down. No holds barred. This is going to get dirty but there's just too much at stake to stay nice and fail this time.
ReplyDeleteI don't think she cares any more. The video of her the other day showed someone bored and irritated by the whole subject of independence. Perhaps a quiet retirement in France with an ex diplomat is on the cards.#Balmoral hotel incident
DeleteWell Felix if that story is true I'm guessing Peter Murrell has been doing all the ironing for the last few years in the Murrell/ Sturgeon household.
DeleteDr Rideout languishes in an open ended suspension from the SNP whilst groper Grady sits on the Westminster benches representing the SNP.
ReplyDeleteSNP justice = Sturgeon justice. If you are a pal of Sturgeon you can get away with anything including lying on oath and groping people in plain public sight but if Sturgeon doesn't care much for you the slightest misstep is heavily punished.
So at what point in time will the WGD numpties accept Indyref2 will not happen in 2023. Well the Bathtub Admiral is pushing back the length of time required for a campaign: - " But IR2 should be short and sweet- more like 6 months which I think is the recommended minimum though it could be as short as 3 months." So the need to set a date is getting pushed back in their minds to keep the hope alive.
ReplyDeleteThe Admiral should stick to playing with his model aircraft carrier QE2 in his bath whilst singing God Save The Queen like the good royalist he is.
The very fact that the Admiral is saying the campaign could be 6 months or 3 months shows that not even the Admiral is aware of the " Mystical Timetable" and its dates. The numpties are thrashing about in the dark just embarrassing themselves.
DeleteThe Mystical Timetable has taken over from Nicolas secret plan that no one is allowed to see. What a bunch of numpties.
Don't think so - the SNP don't have the necessary guts to take on the British state.
ReplyDeleteTHE MYSTICAL TIMETABLE
ReplyDeleteWGD numpty Alex Clark says this: - "I’m not surprised that others are surprised that the Indyref2 timetable is running to schedule."
Now I have asked the numpties previously where exactly can I find this timetable but they never actually give any dates never mind an actual timetable. Is it a bit like Sturgeons secret plan that they prattled on about for years. Hidden away in her handbag.
It is astonishing how some adults can be so delusional and detached from reality.
So Alex when on your mystical timetable will a legal date be set in law for Indyref2? Surely that must be on your timetable.
Meanwhile the Bathtub Admiral gets all excited because the Herald reports Sturgeon is going to prepare a series of essays on independence. So Alex where is this on your timetable?
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ReplyDeleteTrumps legal counsel threatened to resign on multiple occasions due to his unacceptable behaviour.
That would never happen in Scotland - oh wait a minute it did. Sturgeon's legal counsel threatened to resign over the Scottish Governments behaviour during the Salmond Judicial review and that partly forced the Scottish Government to concede defeat to Salmond.
Trump and Sturgeon - similar characteristics. As have the WGD numpties with ignorant Trump loyalists.
According to Sturgeons favourite broadcaster the BBC - Scotland cannot have Indyref2 due to the war in Ukraine. We MUST stick together. Do they realise or care that they just sound like colonialist mouthpieces. This is the BBC Sturgeon said was a key and valued institution. Hey numpties she is telling you to your face she is a Britnat.
ReplyDeleteWhen a poster on WGD queries Sturgeon going to London for the f*****g j*****e but cannae be arsed going to the recent AUOB march in her home city of Glasgow WGD numpty Grizebard says it is because it will convert no voters to yes.😂😂😂😂 At the same time mad liar Irish Skier dusts off his Ski graph and says independence will happen eventually and it is nothing to do with Sturgeon. No wonder I call them numpties.
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