Monday, May 30, 2022

Scottish Labour have just helpfully destroyed one of their own favourite myths - thanks, Anas

You may recall that in the run-up to the 2015 Westminster general election, when there was opinion poll evidence of a swing from Labour to SNP of biblical proportions but nobody quite believed it would be fully replicated on polling day, one of the tactics Labour used to try to bring voters "back home" was to lie through their teeth and claim that it was a "fact" that in a hung parliament the largest single party gets to form a government.  When it was pointed out to them that there was no rule or constitutional convention that supported their claim, and indeed that the 1923 election led to the Labour party forming a government in spite of the Tories being the largest party in the House of Commons, they simply modified their line to "for the last 90 years, the largest party has formed the government", as if that was a distinction without a difference, as if something that hadn't happened for 90 years couldn't possibly happen ever again.  The point of the fib, of course, was to hoodwink people into thinking a vote for the SNP wasn't 'really' an anti-Tory vote - that if you were serious about dislodging a Tory government you had no choice but to vote Labour.

Voters weren't impressed, but that wasn't necessarily because they didn't believe Labour's claim - it was probably more because Yes voters were still caught up in an indyref mindset and weren't as preoccupied as usual with getting rid of the Tories.  In other circumstances, the Labour con might well have worked, because it has a 'truthy' feel to it.  Most people aren't going to bother to read up on the niceties of the constitutional convention that requires the monarch to appoint a Prime Minister who commands a majority in the Commons - which pretty much means that if Labour and the SNP have a majority between them, there cannot be a Tory government, regardless of whether or not the Tories are the largest single party.  (Unless of course Labour do a deal with the Tories themselves.)

So could a similar fib work for Labour in a closely-fought 2024 general election?  Of course not.  Thanks to the SNP-Green government's #2023ReferendumGuarantee, an independence referendum is certain to have taken place before the next Westminster election.  It is utterly inconceivable that Nicola Sturgeon will go back on her word, so the 2024 election will be pretty much an irrelevance in Scotland, and we can just totally relax about it.

Just as a bit of fun, though, let's pretend that a 2023 independence referendum isn't the nailed-on certainty that we all know it is.  What if, heaven forbid, the 2024 election turned out to actually be an active contest in Scotland?  Even then, Labour would have a credibility problem with the "largest party forms the government" wheeze that they didn't have back in 2015.  And they would have nobody to blame but themselves, because they've just given voters a high-profile precedent of a party taking power from second place that is much more recent than 1923.  

Here is the state of the parties on Edinburgh City Council after the local elections earlier this month...

SNP 19
Labour 13
Liberal Democrats 12
Greens 10
Conservatives 9

That result has - nominally at least - produced a "minority Labour administration" with Tory and Lib Dem support, in spite of the fact that Labour are in a distant second place and have just 21% of the seats on the council.  As I said on Twitter the other day, this takes the meaning of the word "minority" into a whole new dimension.  What is even more striking is that Labour are inviting us to accept this outcome as if it was totally unremarkable and routine, and are getting their journalist proxies in the mainstream media to credulously parrot the same message.  Nothing to see here, folks.  Happens every day of the week, apparently.  

Well, OK, if you want us to believe that, then fine, but never again insult our intelligence by pretending that it would be in any way difficult for Labour to form a Westminster government from second place if they had a parliamentary majority in combination with the SNP.  In fact, the only conceivable obstacle would be that, as the Edinburgh outcome yet again demonstrates, Labour are considerably keener on doing deals with the Tories to keep the SNP out of power than they are on cooperating with the SNP to keep the Tories out of power.

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8 comments:

  1. Good article but if you want a better example of an egregious attack on democracy look at Fife

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    1. The SNP would rather have Britnat parties running councils than other independence parties getting votes. The SNP are more interested in keeping the money coming in to finance their lifestyles than obtaining Scottish independence.

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  2. WHAT A BLOODY CHEEK

    The Police are still investigating the missing Indyref2 funds that the SNP raised on the basis of the funds being ring fenced for Indyref2. No doubt they are coming under pressure from Sturgeon just like Johnston did in London. 5 years later no Indyref2 but the SNP have spent the money. Just how much of that has gone to Murray Foote is anyone's guess.

    So guess what the SNP are up to now. Raising money under the YES banner with no mention of the SNP on the main page. The SNP is only mentioned in the very small print where it says funds raised are going to a political party, namely the SNP.

    What a bloody cheek. Clearly Peter Murrell has no shame and clearly he thinks he can do anything he wants. Are the numpties not giving him enough money to waste. Come on numpties get your wallets out Foote and Murrell have a lifestyle to maintain.

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    1. But, but surely you remember Skier last year assuring us that the indyref money was still there, ready to be deployed at a moment's notice! He even offered his personal, professional guarantee that the party accounts were in excellent shape. I think he was wearing his accountant's hat at the time although it may have been his business owner one - it's hard to remember as he has so many areas of expertise. I do remember that it was all Stu Campbell's fault for some convoluted reason, then again it always as far as Skier was concerned. (I wonder who he has nightmares about now on those days when he hasn't a toilet to inspect).

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  3. The Bathtub Admiral very kindly says he supports me. Sorry to break it to him but every time I hear the word j****ee it sets off an automatic f****ff in my brain.

    Basing your head of state on the random chance of hereditary birth is total madness. More so when it is someone from a different country.

    70 years on the throne just conjures up in my mind an extremely bad case of constipation.

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    1. Went in to Sainsbury's to buy a couple of things. Couldn't get out quick enough. Bloody union flags everywhere.

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  4. Sturgeon's big pal Angus Robertson refuses to appear on STV's Scotland Tonight programme to discuss the failings of Scotlands census this year. What a big fearty. Is this the sort of person who should be next FM? Well yes if you are a Britnat. No if you want Scottish independence.
    Perhaps he should have sent his wife in his place.

    86.6% completion in Scotland and 97% completion in Engand &Wales.

    Another debacle by Sturgeon and this is all down to trans ideology delaying the census in Scotland when the Covid excuse for the delay was a nonsense as evidenced by the 97% completion in E&W. Anyone could see that during the pandemic/lockdown people had more time to complete the form. All that extra money spent by the Scottish Government to end up with a poor result.

    Any figures that come out of Scotlands census will quite rightly be challenged. What a shambles. WGD numpties will either ignore or just say it's not true and just more SNP bad. Pathetic numpties.

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  5. Nasty WGD numpty Dr Jim says: - " £20 million has just been announced by the SNP to support the campaign to hold Indyref2 next year. "

    As if the SNP have £20 million. What a numpty.

    The Scottish Government have allocated this amount in its budget to facilitate a referendum if required. It is nothing to do with campaigning by the SNP - what a numpty. Just how does Jimbo keep getting it wrong - is it due to munching on carrots.

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