Sunday, March 6, 2022

Beware the siren voices of tribalism that could help to elect unionist councillors in May

My number one mega-fan in the Wee Ginger Dug comments section, "Hamish100" (who famously couldn't run away fast enough when I offered him a chance to debate me openly on the podcast) has complained about my brief explanation yesterday that I wasn't blogging about Alba NEC meetings due to confidentiality rules.  I must say that I don't quite follow the point he's making - as I understand it, NEC meetings in the SNP are governed by similar confidentiality rules, and even if someone says or does something totally outrageous in an SNP NEC meeting, we only ever find out about it if it's leaked to Iain Lawson.

But whatever Hamish's problem is (he doesn't seem too sure himself), you won't be surprised to hear he thinks it's yet another reason for SNP supporters to help get unionists elected in the council elections in May - 

"Vote SNP, or Scottish Greens . Don’t put a number against anyone else seems a reasonable approach so I have been told"

So you've been told? By who? By someone high up in the SNP, perhaps? Make no mistake, this destructive anti-Alba tribalism carries the very real risk of needlessly getting Labour or Tory councillors elected.  Alba will be standing in a large number of wards, often with credible candidates who have a high profile locally.  They have every chance of being elected - if they get transfers from the surplus votes of SNP candidates who are sure to be returned to office.

In May, I will have no hesitation in asking Alba supporters to help the independence cause by giving their second, third and fourth preference votes to SNP and Green candidates.  If some people in the SNP can't bring themselves to return the favour, my question to them is simple: at what point did independence cease to be your priority, and why?

Elsewhere on the same thread, the Torrid Threesome of Hamish, Alec "LOL" Lomax and Grizebard criticise "divorced from reality" blogs for discussing gender self-ID rather than Ukraine.  They think this is evidence that the writers of those blogs are "parasites on the movement with other motives in mind". So let me get this straight, chaps.  The Scottish Government, through their own free choice, introduce gender self-ID legislation in the middle of the worst European war since 1945, and that is apparently NOT evidence that the Scottish Government are "divorced from reality", and "parasites on the Yes movement" who have "other motives in mind". But if anyone dares to COMMENT on what the Scottish Government have done in the middle of the war, that's somehow a different story?

Er, how does that work?

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14 comments:

  1. James, if Paypal Paul was really interested in attaining independence, as I used to think he was, he could gently explain to his followers the ins and outs about voting in the council elections and how to keep the unionists out.

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    1. You are absolutely correct.

      But not casting any vote for Alba at any cost is definitely SNP policy. Or at least it is Nicola Sturgeon policy. (In fact they are really one and the same nowadays).

      As Paul Kavanagh slavishly follows the SNP line I would not expect there to be any endorsement of Alba candidates at any level in any election from that particular blogsite.

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    2. Paypal Paul, brilliant. I have not looked at his blog in a long time, in fact I stopped when he asked for money to buy a new house. Of course he doesn't want independence, he would lose his revenue stream.

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    3. Mr Kavanagh, continually complains about being very tired all the time. Unlike other matters I have no reason to doubt that is the case. Perhaps he should consider ditching the daily newsletter for The National that he says he writes and he might not be so tired. Or even retire the WGD blog and pissof to Florida where I wouldn't be surprised he ends up sunning himself.

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  2. Both Votes SNP is now two votes SNP and Greens.

    The end result of both approaches by Sturgeon is the election of a lot of Britnats by supporters of the Scottish Devolution Party which is a Britnat party. Deceit by a party - the SNP - claiming to be for independence but is happy with Devolution. That makes them a Britnat party and that's what numpties like Hamish100 are supporting.

    Whatever happened to all those commentators - you know who you are - who were adamant that after the SNP won the Scottish election in May 2021 a referendum would take place later that year. We are now on to the next election on the SNP Merry go round.

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  3. Grizebard: “Yup, one silver lining of the current tragedy is that we’re finding out who the true believers in independence are, and who are parasites on the movement with entirely other motives and purposes in mind.”

    Skier: “...this is the f’n council elections. Only anti-independence parties want to make it all about independence so they can say ‘support for indy parties has fallen on 2021 so call off iref2! “

    Boss, I think they've got all the exits covered. What can we possibly do now?

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  4. IFS is providing a public service by keeping us up to date on the latest from La La Land. Let's face it, any site which provides a spiritual home to that comedy genius Scottish Skier, toilet inspector, scientist, psephologist, lecturer, accountant, company director etc, and of course personal guarantor of the SNP accounts is going to attract the delusional (he has a French 'wife' you know😂). As for Dr Jim, Hamish, Lomax, Capella et al, they're too busy waving their pitchforks and flaming torches at Alba heretics to be taken seriously anyway - no wonder they regard Skier as a voice of reason.





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    1. In amongst the reams of Skier dross you can always find wee gems of comedy gold.

      Skier in response to a good post by Keaton on WGD says:

      " I get a lot of abuse from 'Alba' folks I've never met in my life on sites I don't post on , but don't return that. I'm not sure why, .....

      Skier says - he is not sure why - well that is a lie and that is part of why he gets abuse because he is a liar, a Sturgeon propagandist and lives in a fantasy world.

      Skier says - he doesn't post on - well that is not for want of trying.

      Skier says - but don't reurn that - well that is another lie.

      Skier says folks I've never met in real life - well I offered to meet him at the next independence march - he said no.

      Laugh out loud stuff from Skier the Irish/Scottish/French Walter Mitty from the Scottish Borders and Highlands.

      PS Felix you forgot Skier the friend to Iranians.

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  5. Humpty Numpty Dumpty Hamish100 takes the hump at James and says:

    "As to SGP. Never run from anything."

    Oh yes you do. You run every day from the facts/evidence. 🙈🙉

    " Whats that smell" you say it's the smell of your fear Hamish - Chicken 🐔

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  6. SNP WORLD

    In the SNP WORLD there is always an excuse for not having Indyref2 ( or as Blowhard Blackford calls it - a delay ). Blackford says Ukraine has got to be the current focus and indyref2 preparations have to take a back seat. Funny how they could focus on GRA last week - nae bother at all but this week Ukraines independence is much more important than setting a date for Scottish independence/Indyref2. At least the Ukrainian leadership have not sold out to the Russians like the SNP leadership have sold out to Westminster.

    WAYNE'S WORLD WAS FUNNY.

    SNP WORLD IS A SICK JOKE.

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  7. Would be interesting to know how many the regulars here intend to take your very sensible advice of ranking both the SNP and Alba. I suspect few.

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    1. I haven't finished with them yet. Give me a chance.

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    2. James, I didn't realise you had started.😀

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  8. Peter A Bell: if you really want to bleat about "censorship", perhaps we could have a chat about it on Twitter? Ah, that's right, we can't, because about five years ago you screamed "YOU IMPUDENT CHILD!!!!!" at me about some minor disagreement, and then blocked me.

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