Oh I do loe the smell of Unionist fear. This campaign is gonig exatly like 2011 ALl the polls had Lab way in front and at last minute it was allegedly neck and neck. Outcome a SNP landslide. I knocked doors then as I am now ,and in 2011 it was not as overwhelmong as now. I fully anticipate a largew YES win ,far greater than most imagine. The secret is in the missing million. This week alone I have registered over 40.
no progress at all from the last poll - none whatsoever and this is from Panelbase who ask a number of leading questions before they get to the question that matters
maybe the blogger got carried away when he used the word surge,
I suppose after the last few weeks the yesnp have had anything at all will be seized on even a poll showing no progress
Well, that would make the june result appear correct and suggest we are looking at a statistical tie now with panelbase.
If they have weighted by the EU elections (LOL) then that would reduce Yes in this one.
And No has Yougov, so yes can have panelbase.
Maybe if people don't like panelbase - who get similar results to ICM and survation - they should explain why they think it is wrong through an analysis of methodology.
Yes started the year on 43% and is now 48% with panelbase. The trend is clear anyway.
Up till the debate, most people got their impression of Salmond from newspaper comment and carefully edited clips designed to back the Arrogant-Would-Be-Dictator view peddled by the tabloids.
I took part in 2 Panelbase polls in the last 10 days so it looks like there's still another one to report. Unless of course it is one that the person who commissioned it doesn't want to publish!
Now should we assume that the headline figures reported relate only to those likely to vote? In that case this is a mighty 2% surge on a Panelbase poll. Next please.
Don't they intend to commission a poll to ascertain how many people know of the Old Lorretorian Flipper's personal wealth and his shareholding/ speech giving in/to PFI health companies who profiteer from the sick and vulnerable. A man who aspires to see growth in Scotland confined to the number of nuclear missiles and foodbanks. A sneering contemptuous public schoolboy who is to the right of Nigel Farage and Margaret Thatcher. With Thatcher/Farage, at least they make clear what they stood/stand for. Flipper lies and spins to conceal his true beliefs and will be rumbled.
For an open, free, transparent, peaceful, accountable democratic socialist Scotland. WE WIll.
Relax everyone. According to Anthony Wells that’s from last year. There is a new Panelbase poll out tonight by the Yes campaign – embargoed until midnight.
Denise in answer to your question I don't know and tonight is the first time I ever went to BT sites but I guess they are making the point, as I did above, that this poll is the same as the last poll from Panelbase that Yes commissioned? I think.
Thank you for the welcome Anon but I've been here a long time - I normally just lurk. I inhabit the REAL universe. I'll leave you to decide which one that is. ;)
Whenever there is a good news story about Scotland,SNP,Yes Campaign ,or an expose of a BT lie the naysayers first ploy is to deny ,then attack source or discredit the person or author. Those of us knocking on the doors do not really believe these closed panel polls. The reality on the the doorsteps is massive YES response. So if one of these weighted ,contrived polls shows YEs anywhere near 50% the reality in the real world is YES are well ahead,de ja vu 2011. This Referendum is ours to win.
Chris thanks. But I assume the change is to promote accuracy in which case the poll is still in the same place.
However as a No, I must admit all is in the balance here. Are we about to see 2011 re-enacted? Are the polls about to change?
Perhaps if we are that will be great for Yes. But again the panic that might follow could be good for No.
By the way though I support No I am the first to condemn the bias and complacency that I have seen in SOME Uk media. I do not accept that the Scottish media is that one-sided. You have the Herald and probably soon the Sun but there are causal references to the polling lead of NO in the rest of the UK that surprise me. I do not for a minute accept this is dastardly deceit. They just see the poll lead in general and don't bother
Interested in Teri's comment that she has participated in 2 Panelbase surveys in 10 days. Does the fact that at least one person has participated in two polls so close apart suggest that their internet panel might be slightly too small?
Rod Robertson wrote: "Whenever there is a good news story about Scotland,SNP,Yes Campaign ,or an expose of a BT lie the naysayers first ploy is to deny ,then attack source or discredit the person or author."
Surely you must see from this site alone, that is EXACTLY the same whenever there is good news for No?
As to the canvassing. There is a chance you may be right but any canvasser over years can describe massive good news on the doorstep and a poll defeat. Ask Republicans in the US last election, Florida maybe??? Endless more examples are available.
Expat, I think the point I was trying to make is that pollsters (all of them) are constantly fiddling with methodology and this to me shows that they themselves have doubts over there own accuracy.
Not noise this time then?
ReplyDeleteOh, of course not. A poll commissioned by Yes Scotland.
Your site is a joke.
Oh dear Anon. Squeaky bum time, so to speak.
ReplyDeleteYour site is a joke.
ReplyDeleteHe who laughs last laughs longest, so they say. ;)
Looking forward to more details, if you can get your phone working James. :)
You do realise the fieldwork was done in JUNE for this poll?
ReplyDelete'You do realise the fieldwork was done in JUNE for this poll?'
ReplyDeleteReally? Can you point out where this info is available?
Believe fieldwork was done last week.
ReplyDeleteOh I do loe the smell of Unionist fear.
ReplyDeleteThis campaign is gonig exatly like 2011 ALl the polls had Lab way in front and at last minute it was allegedly neck and neck.
Outcome a SNP landslide.
I knocked doors then as I am now ,and in 2011 it was not as overwhelmong as now.
I fully anticipate a largew YES win ,far greater than most imagine.
The secret is in the missing million.
This week alone I have registered over 40.
James....how dare you go on holiday at this crucial moment....you need to take a look at yoursel ;-)
ReplyDeletelol good old Panelbase
ReplyDeletetheir last one for yes scotland gave it 43% yes 46% no
Squeaky bum time.lol
If this is the best you can get from Panelbase then you are in deep trouble.
I would have thought Panelbase would have had you in front by now as they did( only poll ever to do so) last year
good old Panelbase for yes scotland
It's the same result as june's panelbase poll, so it's no more sensational than 2 months ago
ReplyDelete(Obviously, i accept that pointing out that fact is trolling)
no progress at all from the last poll - none whatsoever and this is from Panelbase who ask a number of leading questions before they get to the question that matters
ReplyDeletemaybe the blogger got carried away when he used the word surge,
I suppose after the last few weeks the yesnp have had anything at all will be seized on even a poll showing no progress
Anonymous you are hysterical. Have a cup of tea and calm down dear.
ReplyDeleteICM poll also coming out.....
ReplyDeleteHearing that the pb poll has lots of good stuff in it james and scottish skier
And the "Darling Bounce"?????
ReplyDeleteTumbleweed Time!!!!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
But, but, but the Darling debate bounce! The growing contempt women have for Eck! The downward spiral of Yes towards a 35/65 defeat!
ReplyDeleteDream on loser
ReplyDeleteMysetrious polls!
ReplyDeleteNational Colletive tweeted too and like Smithson's Tweet - both are now gone!
Enjoy your trip, James. You deserve a wee break, put your foot off the gas and enjoy the sunshine, skipper.
It's the same result as june's panelbase poll,
ReplyDeleteWell, that would make the june result appear correct and suggest we are looking at a statistical tie now with panelbase.
If they have weighted by the EU elections (LOL) then that would reduce Yes in this one.
And No has Yougov, so yes can have panelbase.
Maybe if people don't like panelbase - who get similar results to ICM and survation - they should explain why they think it is wrong through an analysis of methodology.
Yes started the year on 43% and is now 48% with panelbase. The trend is clear anyway.
Hey, I see tweets are vanishing.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's because it was 46% Yes / 42% No? ;-)
Up till the debate, most people got their impression of Salmond from newspaper comment and carefully edited clips designed to back the Arrogant-Would-Be-Dictator view peddled by the tabloids.
ReplyDeleteThe real thing was rather different.
Scottish_skier? What u tallking about tweets vanishing and a yes lead?!!
ReplyDeletePb poll supposed to be embargoed.....
ReplyDeleteWhat u tallking about tweets vanishing and a yes lead?!!
ReplyDeleteJust joking. James's figures are what were being tweeted, it's just apparently people jumped the gun on releasing figures.
SNP Tweet has Yes ahead 44/43 Panelbase poll
ReplyDeleteSorry Blair McDougal is tweeting old SNP tweets about old polls. He is an idiot. Must be worried about the polls tonight
ReplyDeleteThey've got to Scottish_skier...
ReplyDeleteI took part in 2 Panelbase polls in the last 10 days so it looks like there's still another one to report. Unless of course it is one that the person who commissioned it doesn't want to publish!
ReplyDeletelove panelbase
ReplyDeleteneed a right good laugh tonight
ShÃting it, Anon - HAHAH.
ReplyDeleteNow should we assume that the headline figures reported relate only to those likely to vote? In that case this is a mighty 2% surge on a Panelbase poll. Next please.
ReplyDeleteTrolls have been jumping all over this poll, clearly shit scared :-)
ReplyDeleteLOVE PANELBASE lol
ReplyDeletegood news is ICM poll out tomorrow
MI5 on late duty....
ReplyDeleteDon't they intend to commission a poll to ascertain how many people know of the Old Lorretorian Flipper's personal wealth and his shareholding/ speech giving in/to PFI health companies who profiteer from the sick and vulnerable. A man who aspires to see growth in Scotland confined to the number of nuclear missiles and foodbanks. A sneering contemptuous public schoolboy who is to the right of Nigel Farage and Margaret Thatcher. With Thatcher/Farage, at least they make clear what they stood/stand for. Flipper lies and spins to conceal his true beliefs and will be rumbled.
ReplyDeleteFor an open, free, transparent, peaceful, accountable democratic socialist Scotland. WE WIll.
Relax everyone. According to Anthony Wells that’s from last year. There is a new Panelbase poll out tonight by the Yes campaign – embargoed until midnight.
ReplyDeleteThey're absolutely shÃting it.
ReplyDeleteJust search Panelbase on Twitter. Hahah.
MI5 on late duty....
ReplyDeleteBlaw McD on Twitter meltdoon posting up Yes polls from last years.
ReplyDeleteWhilst Pringle of Yes simply retweets Farquahrson's ICM poll out later.
Oh dear, BT.
Wait just a minute here. Haven't we seen this before?
ReplyDeleteYes 48% No 52%: record high for indy in 'breakthrough' poll SUNDAY 15 JUNE 2014. HERALD
And that poll too on 15 June 2014 was commissioned by Yes Scotland!!!!
ReplyDeleteLolz@BritNatz.
ReplyDeleteThis is all very entertaining and we haven't even seen the details yet! Great stuff! LOL
ReplyDeleteWelcome smerrall to the parallel universe that is called Scot Goes Pop!
ReplyDeleteI think you'll find smerral in our Universe and not your parallel one anonymous.
ReplyDeleteCheck before you attempt to cahoot.
Why is Blair M tweeting these old polls? When the real one is announced folk will think there are two polls. What does Better Together gain from this?
ReplyDeleteWhat do they gain?
ReplyDeleteConfusion, misinformation to demoralise the Yes camp.
Denise in answer to your question I don't know and tonight is the first time I ever went to BT sites but I guess they are making the point, as I did above, that this poll is the same as the last poll from Panelbase that Yes commissioned? I think.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the welcome Anon but I've been here a long time - I normally just lurk. I inhabit the REAL universe. I'll leave you to decide which one that is. ;)
ReplyDeleteExpat, yes a similar result but PB have changed methodology which favours No.
ReplyDeleteTo achieve this result with a revised (No favouring) method is good news for Yes.
Whenever there is a good news story about Scotland,SNP,Yes Campaign ,or an expose of a BT lie the naysayers first ploy is to deny ,then attack source or discredit the person or author.
ReplyDeleteThose of us knocking on the doors do not really believe these closed panel polls.
The reality on the the doorsteps is massive YES response.
So if one of these weighted ,contrived polls shows YEs anywhere near 50% the reality in the real world is YES are well ahead,de ja vu 2011.
This Referendum is ours to win.
Chris thanks. But I assume the change is to promote accuracy in which case the poll is still in the same place.
ReplyDeleteHowever as a No, I must admit all is in the balance here. Are we about to see 2011 re-enacted? Are the polls about to change?
Perhaps if we are that will be great for Yes. But again the panic that might follow could be good for No.
By the way though I support No I am the first to condemn the bias and complacency that I have seen in SOME Uk media. I do not accept that the Scottish media is that one-sided. You have the Herald and probably soon the Sun but there are causal references to the polling lead of NO in the rest of the UK that surprise me. I do not for a minute accept this is dastardly deceit. They just see the poll lead in general and don't bother
Interested in Teri's comment that she has participated in 2 Panelbase surveys in 10 days. Does the fact that at least one person has participated in two polls so close apart suggest that their internet panel might be slightly too small?
ReplyDeleteRod Robertson wrote:
ReplyDelete"Whenever there is a good news story about Scotland,SNP,Yes Campaign ,or an expose of a BT lie the naysayers first ploy is to deny ,then attack source or discredit the person or author."
Surely you must see from this site alone, that is EXACTLY the same whenever there is good news for No?
As to the canvassing. There is a chance you may be right but any canvasser over years can describe massive good news on the doorstep and a poll defeat. Ask Republicans in the US last election, Florida maybe??? Endless more examples are available.
Expat, I think the point I was trying to make is that pollsters (all of them) are constantly fiddling with methodology and this to me shows that they themselves have doubts over there own accuracy.
ReplyDelete