Friday, July 21, 2023

YouGov poll finds the Scottish public want a referendum on independence within the next five years - and reject the idea that London's permission should be required before a vote is held

Slightly to my astonishment, at about the seventh or eighth attempt I've finally managed to track down the data tables from the YouGov Scottish poll that I was becoming increasingly suspicious about, and it turns out that it's a genuine YouGov poll.  However, it's in a part of the website that is insanely difficult to find - whether it was sitting there the whole time, or whether it's been quietly added over the last couple of days, is not entirely clear.

As ever, the results that were reported in the media are not necessarily the most interesting or telling ones.  It transpires that, albeit by the narrow margin of 45% to 42%, the public in Scotland think there should be an independence referendum within the next five years.  That represents a slight one-point increase in support for a referendum since the last YouGov poll. And by the somewhat wider margin of 50% to 40%, voters think the Scottish Government should be able to hold a vote on independence without London's permission.

There's slight opposition to a total ban on new oil and gas development on "British" North Sea territory (ahem), and interestingly that's a sentiment that cuts across the political divide.  Yes voters and No voters are both opposed to the idea of a ban, as are voters for all parties apart from Labour (and presumably the Greens, although the Green figures are not provided).

There's increasing evidence that the police investigation has had a severely negative effect on Nicola Sturgeon's standing and reputation.  By a margin of 50% to 32%, voters think she should be suspended from the SNP.  That's a sharp increase on the margin reported by the previous poll.  Admittedly it's driven mainly by anti-independence voters, but even 26% of SNP voters from 2019, and 30% of Yes voters from 2014, think she should be suspended.  Her personal approval rating, meanwhile, now languishes at minus 16.

The approval ratings from the poll for both Humza Yousaf and Rishi Sunak have already been widely reported, but here they are in a fuller context - 

Net approval ratings on the question of whether each person is doing well or badly at their job:

Anas Sarwar (Labour): -3
Keir Starmer (Labour): -15
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Liberal Democrats): -15
Patrick Harvie / Lorna Slater (Greens): -25
Humza Yousaf (SNP): -27
Douglas Ross (Conservatives): -36
Rishi Sunak (Conservatives): -37

Net approval ratings on the question of whether respondents have a favourable or unfavourable opinion of each person:

Anas Sarwar (Labour): -11
Keir Starmer (Labour): -14
Stephen Flynn (SNP): -15
Nicola Sturgeon (SNP): -16
Ed Davey (Liberal Democrats): -16
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Liberal Democrats): -16
Patrick Harvie (Greens): -20
Humza Yousaf (SNP): -23
Lorna Slater (Greens): -25
Douglas Ross (Conservatives): -37
Rishi Sunak (Conservatives): -41

Net approval ratings for political parties:

"Scottish" Labour: -5
Greens: -11
SNP: -17
"Scottish" Conservatives: -51

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18 comments:

  1. Perhaps I'm losing it through advancing age but it seems to me that the solutions are dead obvious - change the leader and actively campaign for independence on an open ended strategy that is aware of, but not limited by, rigged constitutional law.

    I sometimes wonder what it is that the upper echelons of the SNP have been threatened with, through quiet back channels, that has made them so meekly subservient. Ireland was offered the bodged Free State or a massive and aggressive increased British military intervention. What is Scotland's modern equivalent ? Purging Holyrood and handing it to Labour, declaring the SNP unconstitutional and prescribed for opposing the union etc etc - there are plenty of possibilities.

    Long ago I spent many years in England fighting the Kinnock/Blair counter revolution in the Labour Party. We lost eventually of course but the degree of silent capitulation to the neutering of the party, among it's parliamentarians, was never as complete as it is among those of today's SNP.
    Whatever it is the threat must be a pretty convincing one as the only alternative explanation is that the people whom Scotland has elected are especially feeble and 'wormish'.

    Alternative explanations cordially invited !

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  2. I see Yousaf is sandwiched between the Green leaders in terms of unfavourable opinions, and they only beat the Tories. I'm going to guess that after Yousaf wants to spend money Scotland doesn't have on the Commonwealth Games, seemingly oblivious to child poverty, ferries, energy costs, the still rising interest rates and the cost of living crisis as they call it, all so he can stand there and prattle and look important in the eyes of the Commonwealth, earning brownie points with Westminster, that he's likely to plummet even further down the ratings. What a wally.

    I think he and the well paid SNP and Green politicians should stump up, oh, £100,000 each for the games, and SNP and Green councillors £50,000 each. And any of the other parties that support the ridiculous notion that Scotland has money to spare on extravaganzas, they should stump up the same. And not one penny, not one brown cent of our money.

    Yousaf is a clown.

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    1. Tell us all!! who is going to do a better job than the SNP and how are the thing's you mentioned going to be fix and how long will it take by the party you want in Govt!! This should be a good answer!!

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    2. The dead could do a better job than the SNP. Their record under Sturgeon has been crap. They still haven't taken control over DWP benefits at the fourth time of asking; the A9 dialling is a disaster; and their record on ferries is lacking. Compare that to Salmonds SNP and it's night and day. All the SNP plus Greens policies have turned to expensive ash. I honestly can't understand why you think they are doing a good job. Bye the way I voted for them for years in spite of Sturgeons's emerging short comings. I am partly responsible for the shit state of Scotland today - no defacto I no voto

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    3. For you Yousaf, as FM, it'll cost you a cool £250,000 contribution to the Commonwealth Games costs, as you get to be up in front.

      Are you still so keen?

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  3. Another wishy-washy speech from HY today. It seems independence will be front and centre of the SNP campaign at the next election and if they win that will lead to a conversation with WM. Either they think we're fools or they are craven and that is the best guff they can come up with. Pathetic stuff

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  4. it might not be showing in the poll's just yet but I pick up that the labour buble that was growing in Scotland has burst, i think people are just becoming indiffrent to politics here? can't really say I notice to much excitment, but also alot of people still seem to be on board with independance. the most important thing is to get voter id and postal votes if pro independace peole are going to push that then when people do vote, they will be inclined to vote pro indie, now it's up to peole like myself to try and get the SNP on a pro indie stance, but I think as importanly for yes Salvo's soultion is what's needed, and for the politial parties such as Alba and SNP to get on board with that.

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    1. You've definitely got a point on growing indifference and increasing apathy. Without a final destination the yes movement is becoming demoralised.

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  5. Yousaf, Harvie and Slater all less favourable than Sturgeon, the person who is under investigation by the polis for financial fraud. The SNP and Green membership are brilliant at electing their leaders.

    Every politician noted has a negative rating. Not surprising in itself other than why some are not a lot more negative.

    The UK is a total shithouse run by shitty politicians.

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    1. Preach it!

      A plague on all their houses is where I'm at.

      I almost feel as if there is space for the 'non-politicians party' where the candidates just promise to sort out the political system and having sorted it out let the parties recontest the election.

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  6. It's a bit OT, but there was a launch of an interesting initiative - the Stirling Directive - by Salvo.

    It's worthwhile in its own right, including if neccessary going to the ECHR which was discussed by Hanvey's expert McCorquodale , but also for keeping pressure on the SNP to go for its General Election "de facto referendum" and not backslide on that one.

    It could be interesting to stick in a couple of questions in a poll about how the Scottish public think about getting international intervention from ECHR or ICJ with continuing Westminster undemocratic refusal. I daresay you'd want to make the questions a little less leading! Or not.

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    1. ICJ is confined to EU countries.

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    2. No it's not! It's a worldwide body with jurisdiction in almost 200 countries.

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  7. The big dug and his little doggers are punting the same old tired mantra of you must vote SNP ( except funnily enough the bampot greens ) or you are helping the unionists da de da de da. Yawn.
    Someone who was quite smart said it is insane to keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. Well we know the result - no Indyref2 despite all the election wins and promises over 8 years. Horsebox and motorhome sitting idly doing nothing and a new order of carrots in the pipeline.
    So are the big dug and the little doggers insane? - naw - the big dug is just another SNP grifter and the wee doggers are just thick as a brick.

    The SNP ( according to the big dug these days) is a flawed diamond. Now that gave me a good laugh. Yousaf is a diamond geezer🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Strangely enough Mr Kavanagh arch SNP sycophant and low grade grifter chose not to identify the SNP flaws. The only good news in his usual dreary and predictable article telling us the Tories are bad and we must vote SNP to get independence is that there will be no more dreary predictable articles for a week as he is on hol. On holiday again - does he think he is a politician.

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    1. Be fair on Kavanagh. His opinions are his responsibility, of course, and we both disagree with him. But that massive stroke he had is something I wouldn't wish on my own worst enemy, let alone a fellow Yesser. His efforts to keep up his blog when so disabled are worth true respect. Could you or I?

      Agreed he has half of his analysis right: the SNP is deeply flawed and the Brits will stick it right up all of us in Scotland when they get the chance. Where we differ is in the notion that those SNP MPs make an ounce of difference. Like most of us here, I think we're well past that point.

      Still, look on the bright side: when it's Labour who's tearing Scots a new one, with no other British hope in sight, maybe that will sharpen gullible minds. Until we Scots agree on independence, passionately and determined, we ain't getting it.

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    2. H Useless - I am fair on Kavanagh - his health probs are irrelevant to my comments but he does play the sympathy card on a regular basis - often when fund raising. If I had a bad stroke I would not keep producing a shit grifting blog. I wouldn't have started one in the first place either. So no respect from me.
      You say Kavanagh is a fellow Yesser - I say he is more interested in the business success of his blog. He knew fine well Sturgeon was behind the persecution of Salmond but chose not to upset his readers ( contributors ) by telling them the truth. He then went further by blatantly telling them Salmond was guilty and a bad man. So no respect from me for the Big Dug.

      He also kept telling his readers Sturgeon would deliver Indyref2 when he knew the type of character she is. So again no respect from me for the Big Dug.

      He tried to get James to cancel me because he knew I told the truth about him. So again no respect from me for the Big Dug.

      In summary, I have no respect for the Big Dug or the vast majority of the numpties who post btl on WGD.

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  8. WGD doesn't allow constructive criticism of the SNP, even if it's just to point out that the SNP main page - https://www.snp.org/ - currently has 8 articles and none of the 8 titles and the top extract visible on the main page, even mention the word "[REDACTED]" (Independence). Indeed, you get this when you try:

    "MODS says:
    July 24, 2023 at 3:33 pm
    If you want to continually mouth off about the SNP and how useless they are then there are other forums where you can do that. You’re not welcome to do it here.
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    So I guess if he was to criticise the SNP in any way, even in the vain hope they'd pay attention and improve their act to stop their support falling below around 30 MPs at Westminster and dropping to 20 or less, at all, he'd have to ban himself.

    Mmmm. Ain't Catch 22 a Heller of a thing.

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  9. YouGov Westminster voting intention, Scottish sub-sample, field work 19 - 20 July.
    Con 11% (0 seats, -6) Lab 34% (24 seats, +23) LibDem 8% (5 seats, +1) SNP 35% (30 seats, -18)
    V O’B

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