Wednesday, February 5, 2020

Scot Goes Pop / Panelbase poll: Day of shame for the United Kingdom as, by a convincing margin, Scots say the Section 30 rejection means the UK is "no longer a fully democratic country"

It shouldn’t be forgotten just how dramatic a break this UK government has made with decades of British democratic tradition. Until Theresa May, every British Prime Minister since Harold Wilson had made clear that Scotland could leave the UK if it voted to do so. Now we’re told that’s there is no longer any democratic route to independence for decades to come, and that no matter how many times we vote to hold an independence referendum, our decision will simply be ignored. Perhaps fittingly for an administration led by a proponent of “cakeism”, though, the Tories still seem to expect Scottish voters to punish Nicola Sturgeon for using the rather appropriate word “prison” in relation to the UK. That’s the paranoid language of the wild nationalist fringe, we’re told, and must be denounced by any right-thinking person.

I actually give voters more credit than that. I don’t think they’re going to allow the Tories to have it both ways – if the UK isn’t a prison, where are our democratic rights? So I decided to take the opportunity of this blog’s Panelbase poll to test Scottish public attitudes about what the denial of a Section 30 order means for the state of UK democracy. The results are nothing short of damning.

The UK government has said that it will not allow the Scottish Parliament to call an independence referendum even if the SNP win an outright majority of seats in next year's Scottish Parliament election. In light of that decision, which of these two statements is closest to your own view of democracy in the UK?

The UK is no longer a fully democratic country: 49%

The UK is still a fully democratic country: 39%

With Don’t Knows removed, approximately 56% of respondents say that the UK is no longer fully democratic, and only 44% disagree. Remarkably, as many as 14% of respondents who would vote No in a new referendum appear to feel that the denial of a Section 30 has implications for democracy.

I don’t think it should be underestimated how big a warning sign these findings are for the Johnson government. The UK is not Spain, and it’s doubtful whether the London commentariat will turn a blind eye forever if the penny really starts to drop that Scotland isn’t remotely relaxed about the way its democratic decisions are being disregarded. Once consciences start to prick about Scotland-the-colony, a few holes may appear in the wall of intransigence that we’re currently faced with. And even if that doesn’t happen, it’ll clearly be a lot easier for Nicola Sturgeon to take the radical steps that will then be necessary if the Scottish public understand the nature of the democratic deficit that has to be addressed.

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Before I published last night's blogpost, I sent it over to Panelbase to be checked.  They had no problem with what I'd written, but they did make the point that there was no direct evidence in the datasets as they stood to either support or disprove my theory that a significant minority of current No voters must think that Brexit is a big enough change of circumstances to justify another independence referendum.  So to find out one way or the other, they very kindly expanded the datasets today, and it turns out that 10% of people who would currently vote No think that Brexit justifies a new indyref.

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There's still one more installment from the poll to come (probably tomorrow), so if you'd like to be the first to know about the remaining results, you can follow me on Twitter HERE.  You can also read articles I've written about the poll earlier in the week for The National HERE and HERE.

93 comments:

  1. Thank you James. This poll does demolish a lot of the Tory wall of propaganda aimed at the Scots.

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  2. There you have the wonderful uniqueness of Scotland. Only here would such a large minority be content to subsist in such subservient fashion. Other populations around the world must look at this and really wonder what is wrong with this supine bunch. I'm sure our friendly southern neighbours think exactly the same. They would be right.

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  3. The result in % terms is the same as the second question from yesterdays article.

    That is 56% of poeple believe that "Brexit is a big enough change of circumstances to justify holding a second independence referendum?" and the same % believe "The UK is no longer a fully democratic country" due to the refusal to grant a Section 30 order.

    No real surprise that these results would be similar tyhen as if you thought that Brexit deserved another referendum you're almost certain to believe that it being refused is undemocratic.

    Still, it's good to know that this % is a fair bit above those that say they will support Yes in the next referendum and they are surely the low hanging fruit that can be scooped up in the coming months.

    I look forward to seeing 56% Yes and 44% No in future polls,

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    1. Unionist Media BDSM Club -- Watch Mr Massie Shred His Privates with a Union-Jack-Decorated Cheese GraterFebruary 5, 2020 at 10:42 PM

      Thepnr: "That is 56% of poeple believe that "Brexit is a big enough change of circumstances to justify holding a second independence referendum?" and the same % believe "The UK is no longer a fully democratic country" due to the refusal to grant a Section 30 order.

      "No real surprise that these results would be similar tyhen as if you thought that Brexit deserved another referendum you're almost certain to believe that it being refused is undemocratic."

      Not sure I'd agree with that, thepnr. While the Brexit numbers were pleasing but unsurprising, I was shocked to see 56% say "the UK is no longer a fully democratic country". That is a big, big statement to make about your government, the 'birthplace of modern democracy', 'the most successful Union the world has ever seen', 'the Mother of Parliaments' etc etc. And you can guarantee that among the under-65s the % would be much higher.

      Imagine reading that 'only 44% of Germans believe their country is a true democracy?' I don't know if this is the figure that made James's jaw drop but it's still an eyeopener IMO.

      "they are surely the low hanging fruit that can be scooped up in the coming months."

      Yes. If this time next year we're experiencing the national fiasco of No Deal, watch current No-Remainers and former-Yesser-Leavers (the latter 13% of the electorate according to a Wings poll) come to Yes in droves.

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    2. I can understand why you might not agree as it is a big step to state that you don't believe that the UK is a fully democratic country.

      The way I'm looking at it though is if I myself was asked the Q

      When Scotland voted against independence in the 2014 referendum, it was not known that Britain would leave the EU a few years later. Do you think Brexit is a big enough change of circumstances to justify holding a second independence referendum?

      I would have answered most positively that Brexit was a big enough change to justify a 2nd referendum. I would totally agree because imo it most definately is.

      Then if you ask me next:

      The UK government has said that it will not allow the Scottish Parliament to call an independence referendum even if the SNP win an outright majority of seats in next year's Scottish Parliament election. In light of that decision, which of these two statements is closest to your own view of democracy in the UK?

      The UK is no longer a fully democratic country:

      The UK is still a fully democratic country:


      My answer would be obvious, how can the UK be a fully democratic country if it denies a justifiable referendum on Independence because of the change in circumstances resulting from Brexit.

      That's basically where I'm coming from, someone who belives a referendum is justified for whatever reason is also likely to believe that democracy is not being served when their government seeks to deny them that referendum.

      They are then open to the accusation of not being a fully democratic country.

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  4. 44% think it's all right to be serfs.

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  5. Unionists need to face the fact that John Bull England is, in effect, entering brexit negotiations with his wife bursting in behind him telling everyone she wants a divorce, but he won't let her go, and has tried to lock her the basement. He responds by demanding a minder grapple her to the floor in front of everyone and drag her away screaming, but he's just going to have to do the same again the next night as she's at the international football dinner where she'll make scene again. Then it's the Rugby gala event, then...

    That's why Tusk did his interview and the European parliament sung us auld lang syne. England is being mocked for its cowardice, while respect is going to Scotland.

    England has no respect on the international stage for being such a pathetic, bullying, chickenshit coward, and will have none in brexit negs wile it runs away from wee Scotland, which is what no Section 30 is and everyone knows it.

    It's back door Boris part 2.

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    1. If anyone is going to international matches, then get waving your EU flag. Maybe even a 'free Scotland' one. The European cameras will absolutely pick up on it and the likes of Raab will be apoplectic.

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    2. Agree 100%.

      It's been good since we left on 31stJan - particularly when these polls were done BEFORE that.
      I'm convinced those percentages will be up even more by now. Hopefully Boris' impending 'love-bombing' will help even more!

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    3. Not sure it's quite seen that way Skier, I imagine what people abroad, looking on incredulously, see a unique population slightly less than half of which revels in dependency and the opportunity to look up to external superiors in order to have the luxury of avoiding responsibility for the state of the nation of Scotland themselves. A large minority are happy to leave things to their British betters and to revel in crumbs from the table.

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    4. Nothing wrong with supporting being in a union freely. Which is what many Scots unionists support, just the same way Europeans support being in the EU, as do I. That is not 'dependency'.

      The only country which is weak, pathetic and dependent, is England; the one trying to force itself on the other British nations because it's too afraid to stand on its own too feet.

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    5. Am Braghadanach

      Naw they think they are British as well but they don't realise they will never be first class British - English. They have been conditioned to believe Scots are inferior so the only option is to tell yourself you are British. Very sad.

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    6. Unfortunately, there are some Scots who would like to be Englishmen when they grow up. They never manage though; just shine the shoes. And rightly so, as such people deserve no respect from the English or Scots.

      But there are genuine unionists who have had decent enough reasons, often through family ties, to believe in the UK union. They can and will vote yes though if Scotland is abused, so best not abuse them the way England is right now.

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    7. You are allegedly the Scot who is Irish.

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    8. Eat your cereal.

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    9. Scottish people are easy to identify. They will answer yes to the following question:

      'Would you like a (distinctly) Scottish passport?'

      They comprise about 3/4 of the population, i.e. the section that voted Yes in 1997 and want indy or devo max.

      How would you answer GWC? I'd say yes of course.

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  6. It's a prison. Built in the years leading up to 1707. Opened in the spring of 1707. The walls are old now and are starting to crumble and the inmates are getting restless.

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  7. I think that Sturgeon is extremely unlikely to do anything "radical" with regard to the constitution. She has done absolutely nothing since 2016, so what makes you think she'll do anything now?

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  8. I think the closer analogy is the sheep hefted to a field/hill and when the gate is open continue to stay in their hefted enclosure, looking up adoringly at the shepherd bringing their salt licks. It is very scary outside that gate, baaaaa

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  9. So circa 40% are unconcerned, or content with "things are OK as they are". It would be interesting to know what %age within this 40% have a job, a mortgage raising a family, run a car. So far nothing has changed for this group with Brexit. The SNP have administered the needs of this group very well - uni fees, baby beds, free prescriptions, and credit to the SNP for their efforts. Just wait for the reaction from the group when their money streams starts to dry up.
    Oops my screen has gone a bit screwy, I'll post anyway.

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    1. No, 39% are mainly just lying. Like GWC, anon etc do on here.

      People do lie, including in polls. Here is an example of that, in this case, it is people who don't want a referendum / indy right now lying in an attempted to justify that. This is a very common situation in which people lie.

      Some said the question was leading. It's not, not if the question exactly describes the situation. Of course that may prompt some to give an answer they may not have thought about previously as they didn't know the situation (ergo Scotland might be more 'DK' than the poll suggests), but that's not actually leading them towards either option offered, just to pick one that seems appropriate.

      Unionists lie. They know they are lying. But they need to justify a position they know is often emotional rather than logical, so lies about economics, politics etc are required.

      By contrast, independence is a logical position as it's what every other country in the world does, ergo lying to justify it isn't really required. Everyone in the world thinks independence is best for countries.

      But then for many unionists, the biggest lie they tell is that they're Scottish. They're not, they're British. Britain is their country. If they were honest and said that, they'd actually get more respect, at least if they likewise respected that most Scots are (identify as) Scottish, be these unionist or nationalist.

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    2. And people also lie to themselves when required. Folks can find a way to justify anything, and I mean anything. Scary.

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  10. That's what I was getting at yesterday. I'm sure (not) the SNP are all over this with pin point analysis and have strategies to peel off one sub set after another with cunningly thought out plans. Don't hold your breath.

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  11. Scottish Nat sis have rejected the 2014 & 2016 referendums results. So the winners are undemocratic and the losers the democrats. Seems like we are in the USA.

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    1. GWC away back to your sewer.

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    2. No, it's just you can't quote polling results from 4-6 years ago on this type of blog and be taken seriously. As the old saying goes, 2 weeks is a long time in politics.

      And 2016 was 62% Remain anyway.

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    3. Nazi House-Jock with no sensible input, yet again! Democracy means people can change their minds, dumbass!

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  12. A quarter of the NO voters in Scotland are English people living in Scotland many of them students and workers here temporarily.
    An eighth of NO voters are non EU people from overseas given British citizenship and a British passport by Westminster

    These two groups have no allegiance to Scotland

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  13. Getting Loyalists in Scotland to grow up and take responsibility for themselves will always be difficult, they're used to be told what to do and where to go by their masters and because they're not very bright just toddle around and do what they're told
    If England tells them to like a thing then they do, if they tell them to oppose a thing then they do

    You can teach some monkeys up to a thousand words so getting these people to do what you tell them's easy when the reward pops out of the slot at the right time for being good brainless monkeys

    I particularly love the defenders of the faith of the institution they never go to yet vow to fight to the death over even when nobody ever said it was being taken away from them

    That type of Unionist Loyalist stupidity fortunately is stuck on around 25% of the population with the rest using their brains so the Independence proposition can't be stopped and will rise to the level where the Labour party will cave in and support it or they've had it in Scotland just as they have in England with only one Labour MP to their name and to be fair he's really a Tory in a bad disguise

    An Independent Scotland and a United Ireland looks like a great and powerful proposition, it would be nice if Wales had a stronger economy so they could do it too, but sadly for them not yet

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  14. Am I right in understanding that gay men are not allowed to text each other of have a missed something?

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    1. As far as I am aware, no criminal activity has occurred, but let's just say the optics aren't good.

      I think that's the gist of it. We may be in the 21st century but there are still lots of people about who were born in a different era.

      For clarity I am not passing any moral judgements, just stating how I think this being perceived, and it's largely about perceptions.

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    2. Am I right in understanding that gay men are not allowed to text each other of have a missed something?

      From the reports, it sounds like only one of the two men was gay

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    3. Oh you are a nice young cute 16 year old boy. Do not say it on social media keep it private and your job.

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    4. So Britain sends young 'boys' into battle. That's disgusting. What a revolting country. Scandalous to use 'child' soldiers in this way.

      I understand texts are private conversations, not social media postings.

      The British press attacks are being unquestionably homophobic here (given no crimes have been committed).

      People can have relationships with whoever they like so long as both are consenting adults, something which legally both parties were.

      If Boris Johnson wants to date someone 1/4 of a decade younger than him, that's his business.

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  15. Referring back to an earlier post on " leading questions" .All of the questions in the poll have been addressing the arguments put forward by Westminster and the Scottish unionists We now know what Scots really think . The propaganda used by Westminster and the Scottish unionists has been shown for what it is A very important and timely poll

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    1. No you do not know. No one asked me in any poll. A poll is a sample. The real poll was during 2014 with a real result.

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    2. And another real poll will be with us before long.

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  16. The Donald exonerated and possibly faces being in power for another four years. That could be good for trade deals if the Donald does not do another wobbly. The Democrats would attempt to scupper trade deals and support the EU.

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    1. And another real poll will not be long in coming.Oh dear you are going to be disappointed.

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    2. Not attempt, but actually scupper.

      Donald can't do trade deals unless both houses pass them

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    3. Around ten years mibbie.

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  17. Can someone explain how Derek Mackay befriending someone 1/4 of a century young than him is not ok, but the PM shagging the same is fine?

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    1. Is it because Mackay is gay and/or Scottish?

      These are the only differences I can see.

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    2. The boy is hardly oot his pram. Q. What's brown an hairy an hings oot a weans pram. A. A Child molester.

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    3. Now you are throwing insults the young man in question. It seems to be you with the problem.

      The young man can join the British army to have his legs blown off.

      Are you saying the UK uses child soldiers?

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    4. In fact you are insulting all men, and women, who are 16 years of age.

      People who can vote, get married, have children, buy property, work and pay taxes...

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    5. And of course, as far as we know, the two consenting adults were nothing more than friends, unlike the PM who 'molests' young ladies 1/4 of a century his junior.

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    6. You will have to ask Nicola she has called what he did unacceptable.

      Anyhow he has now correctly been suspended from the SNP whilst the disciplinary process takes place to see if any form of 'grooming' was going on of if was just two Friends talking.

      I'm sure you would agree that this is the right process.

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    7. My concern is those who are insulting the young man concerned - and all those of his age - by saying they are not mature enough to pick their own friends / potential partners. My daughter is 12 and more mature than the British press today.

      We can't have an age of consent for consenting adults, only to then say what kind of age gap is acceptable. If you want to start telling other people what they are allowed to do with their love lives you are a pervert. It's none of your business. As noted, the PM is dating a woman 24 years his junior and nobody's bothered. That's an essentially identical age gap between two consenting adults.

      The BBC are calling this young man a boy like he's some sort of child. It's humiliating for him and all 16 year olds.

      If Mackay has committed an offence, such as harassing the young man with unwanted attention after being clearly desist, then absolutely, that is inappropriate behaviour. It seems that he's admitting that he has pushed his luck here?

      Otherwise, it's just all a bit embarrassing to be chasing someone so young / 'out of your league' and being rebuffed.

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    8. I'm not sure were your getting this love lives thing from? Have you read the transcript? At no time did the boy show any inclination that he was interested sexually in Mackay. In fact quite the opposite.

      It seems the boy had an series of online conversations with Makay but once Makay called him cute he decided he no longer wanted to converse with him. Makay however seemed not to get the point and repeatedly tried to contact him again.

      Anyhow the first minister agrees that his behavior was unacceptable and the SNP will decided if he broke any of their rules or procedures. As i said all quiet normal and proper way of doing things, i'm sure you will agree?

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    9. I was speaking generally, as was rather obvious.

      Unlike you, I don't take an interest in the private lives of others. I'm not a pervert. Who other people are sexually attracted to or not is of no interest to me.

      If Mackay persisted in giving unwanted attention, of any nature, to the man concerned, even after being told clearly to desist, then he's dug this hole for himself. That's harassment.

      That has nothing to do with the age of those concerned, which is completely irrelevant if both are over the age of consent. Yet this aspect seems to focus prominently in the media. Only perverts could consider it important as they must be thinking about other adults and their sex lives.

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    10. Again i'm not sure why you are mentioning the age of consent. The age of consent is the age at which people can legally have a sexual relationship. Clearly this is not relevant here as they were not in a sexual relationship.

      However, the boy in question is 16 and therefore a minor. Whilst minors can, as you mentioned, do things like get a job, join the army get married etc etc, there are restrictions that they face and/ or permission granted from their parents/guardians that people are not subject to once they become 18.

      Also organisations, companies, political parties all have separate polices regarding minors. As I said the SNP have done the right thing in suspending him whilst they investigate if any of these have been broken.

      So of course this has everything to do with the age of the boy involved, as is a distinct legal separation between minors and people over the age of 18.

      As for you comment 'Only perverts could consider it important as they must be thinking about other adults and their sex lives'

      I have never said that any of this relates to anyone's sex life'

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    11. I'm not commenting on age, I'm commenting on others (including the media) commenting on the age (such as yourself), even though it's not relevant. I an talking about the age of consent for adult, private relationships, which can be completely platonic, such as the one concerned. It's you, the media, etc that is focusing on sex, reading through private texts to find anything that can be construed as sexual in nature.

      The person involved is of legal capacity, and of the age where they can enter private personal relationships with other adults legally, so long as these do not breach other regarding persons in a position of authority / duty of care (e.g. teacher - student).

      The young gent in question needs no parental permission to have a relationship, if he so desired, with anther person over the age of 16. I am likewise not aware that the SNP specifies who its members can become friends with / date. They could get married likewise with no parental permission, get a house, a job...

      So no, in the context, age is irrelevant. This is why the police have said there is no criminality.

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    12. I never said its anyting to do with sex, you made that up.

      Anyhow the first minister thinks what he did is unacceptable so I will take my lead from her. She, obviously has a greater knowledge of what is or is not acceptable for a government minister and /or SNP member

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    13. It's you that brought up 'grooming'.

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    14. That's how the topic of sex was brought into the comments thread.

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    15. Nope I said that the SNP will investigate if any 'grooming' has gone on or not. Of course before that you mentioned shagging and relationships.

      Anyhow as i said I'm taking my lead on this subject from the First minister, she, obviously, will have more information and knowledge on this subject. So will leave it there.

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    16. Yes, you brought up 'grooming'. I don't believe the SNP have used this term. It's your words. Sex was clearly in your mind.

      I only mentioned shagging with respect to our PM and the lady he's with. When she was 16, Boris would have been Derek Mackay's age. Funny how that's not mentioned in the media, yet the legal situation is no different.

      I'm just a stickler for not interfering in other people's business unless laws have been broken. His crime seems to have been making a bit of a tit of himself flirting with someone who's unlikely to have been interested. His partner may not be amused.

      One thing I'm definitely not is a perv that would read other people's private texts.

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    17. Another stickler point on this very slow independence news day...

      270 messages in 6 months is next to nothing in social media terms.

      I had a 5 minute conversation with a friend last night where I racked up 20 messages just like that. When 'Sure', and 'Nae Bother' and 'lol' count as messages, 270 is nothing at all.

      Based on my conversation last night, 270 messages is about 1 hr 8 minutes of chat in six months. We could of course be a bit more conservative and say 2 hours of actual chat time in six months.

      Doesn't seem very persistent to me.

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    18. I'm just a stickler for not interfering in other people's business unless laws have been broken.

      Thats funny, if this had been a Conservative MSP you would of been posting links to the story left right and centre.

      Ive seen your posts for a number of years both on here and netweather and if there is a hint of a non SNP elected representative to of been accused of the slightest infraction you are more than happy to post a link to the story and make a comment, your not interfering principle only seems to apply to politicians that hold the same political views with.

      Anyhow the SNP /first minster seem to have different views to you, which is fine, but unless you are saying they are competently incompetent in judging what he has done to be unacceptable then I will take my lead from them, as i said they are the ones with the knowledge and experience in this area.

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    19. Maybe you can provide evidence for your accusation? If want to accuse someone of something, you need to provide evidence. If you don't, it's slander. Is that typical behaviour for you?

      And what have I said that's disagreeing with the SNP/FM exactly?

      Mackay's behaviour was not that a party would expect of a minister. He has embarrassed the SNP / the Scottish government and brought unwanted media attention upon them. He should have known fine well that flirting, even lightly, with a young man like that would be jumped on by the media and blown out of all proportion, even if innocent enough. So, he made his own bed.

      However, based on the evidence in had, as the police agree, he's not actually done anything wrong it would appear. If he was an unknown clerk in a bank or something, nobody would give a shit.

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    20. Incidentally, at 16 I was very mature. More mature than the PM of the UK at 55 certainly (I would have respected the right of Scots to vote rather than running away like a spoilt child).

      I had an unconditional offer from St. Andrews (although I didn't take it up until 17) and dated a woman of 24 for a while. At 6' 2", I didn't feel small and vulnerable either. I had had jobs since I was 14 and spent the summer of my 16th year working full time in a hotel, going out with all the staff to the pub at night after work etc. I was also travelling abroad myself, could drive a car (not on public roads of course), and smoked (much to my later regret) legally.

      Maybe others were much more child-like and immature at this age, still playing with action figures etc, and that explains the conflicting perspectives on show today?

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    21. Oh, and I recall at least 2 of my former classmates started families that (my 16th) year too, which was of course as legal then as it is today.

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    22. There wasn't any friendship, they never met in person. Mackay stumbles across this kid on social media and right away starts in with offers of a job, offers of lifts, offers of trips to parliament to meet his rugby heroes, etc. Plus he starts slowly introducing the 'compliments'. This was not innocent or platonic.

      It's not illegal but there's no way he could have kept his job after that nor should he. This sort of thing is politically toxic.

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  18. Today's News on the BBC. Spartacus is dead and woman wants an operation to restore her virginity.

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    1. Cordelia gets its news from the BBC.
      That explains a great deal...

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    2. You are welcome to suggest an alternative.

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    3. At last. You acknowledge your name is Cordelia. You pretty lafy. You got nice pants. You nice beak. Pretty lady.

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  19. Very much on topic and quick off the mark too.

    Is Scotland a colony?

    https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1225171526233706496

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    1. Eeh mother. Where's me wardrobe? I say, where's me wardrobe?

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  20. More on cowardly feeloading waster England living the highlife on the back of Scots. England is desperate to be subsidised with e.g. our fish because they are too lazy to work for a living themselves. Hence no Section 30.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51363193

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    1. Seek some mental heath treatment.

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    2. Don't have time. We Scots have to work harder to support lazy England which is freeloading on Scots resources because they are too scared to stand on their own two feet.

      Hence no Section 30.

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    3. Better now than the white coats turning up at your door.

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    4. You would like the Redcoats to turn up at your door.

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    5. Scots are always welcome at my home.

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  21. Another very interesting poll. Things are clearly shifting, frustratingly slowly at times but definitely shifting, in attitudes towards the so-called united kingdom.

    More and more people in Scotland are recognizing the fundamental differences in the social and political reality between Scotland and England.

    Rabid English nationalism continues to corrode the already slimy foundations of the so-called united kingdom.

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  22. GWC you are an old festering Britnat turd. Who posts lowlife comments and stinks this site out. Away back to the sewer you slid out of.

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    1. Helmut Cabbage Mitt Grossen Jaggy Bunnet.February 6, 2020 at 6:36 PM

      Vie vill miss you Shotten ven you leave our vundervar EU especially your vimmin. They drop their drawers for milk tokens.

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  23. Friends Of Big EaterFebruary 6, 2020 at 4:37 PM

    Fight censorship on SGP.

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  24. Meanwhile things are hotting between England and the EU. Hopefully the EU will not shy from fighting against rabid English nationalists like liar and coward Johnson. Scotland is right to take the side of the EU. Our enemy’s enemy is our friend. Hence the EU is Scotland’s friend.

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  25. If James would allow:

    https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/gary-kelly-defence-fundraiser-by-auob

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  26. MORI UK Scots subsample:
    45% SNP
    28% Con
    13% Lab
    8% Lib
    6% Grn

    SNP + Grn = 51%

    Not that it matters of course since England cancelled democracy.

    Something Scots agree with me on.

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    1. So we have an election based on a poll. That adds up to an election every week at 15.85 million quid a week. Less Derek Mckays pension.

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  27. When the polls show support for Independence rising the British Nazionalists say the polls don't count, when the SNP win elections the British Nazionalists say they didn't win by enough, when the snp win a landside in seats the British Nazionalists say it's the percentages that count not the seats, when the SNP win a higher percentage than the British Nazionalists they say we don't care what or how much you win the answer is "We're Nazis and we rule"

    Then the British Nazionalists go on TV lie and say there's no demand in Scotland for a referendum and the tame media say nothing in response

    Because of this behaviour by the Nazi government of England towards Scotland and Northern Ireland they have put their own English people's lives at risk and they know it yet still they don't care because when it happens, and it will the Fuhrer Johnson will get to pretend to take the moral high ground and call the people of Scotland and Northern Ireland terrorists when they fight back, and they will

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    1. Unlike the IRA Scottish people do not go around killing innocent people. So do not tar us with IRA scum.

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  28. Eeh mother. Where's me wardrobe? I say, where's me wardrobe?

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