And yet he was totally immune from accountability in a way that people with a tiny fraction of his powers were not. As you can see from my exchange with Ms Ahmed-Sheikh, at the first hint of anyone trying to hold McEleny to account for blatantly abusing his powers, they were informed that they were not allowed to do so, because that would constitute beastly victimisation of someone who was no more than an 'umble, vulnerable employee, and the party simply couldn't afford to be taken to an employment tribunal by him. It's not a bad set-up if you can wangle it, is it? Having dictatorial powers over all members of a party, while being able to treat those members as your employers and use employment law against them if they try to fight back against your abuses.
Of course McEleny was only in this absurdly protected position because it suited the wider leadership for him to be there - it was of immense assistance in conducting the Stalinist purges of people who displeased them in whatever small way. So there was a kind of poetic elegance to it when McEleny ended up using that cosy set-up as a weapon against the leadership themselves. Although Alba look set to be nothing more than a footnote in Scottish political history, they will always, absolutely always, have the unique distinction of being the party in which the leader tried to sack the General Secretary, and the General Secretary responded by trying to suspend the leader on the grounds that sacking the untouchable General Secretary is a grievous disciplinary offence. (Or to put it in McEleny's own terms, sacking him would expose the party to significant financial liabilities if he took legal action against them and won, and thus creating such exposure 'injured' the party and was a serious disciplinary matter.)
By that point McEleny had got so drunk on his own power and importance, and had got so used to the pseudo-legalistic justifications for his diktats going unchallenged, that he didn't anticipate what should have been blindingly obvious - ie. that the NEC were never going to allow an 'umble employee to suspend the *party leader* simply on the grounds that the party leader had tried to sack him. Having received his long-overdue rude awakening, McEleny's faulty thinking has continued, and he's tried to take exactly the same hopeless case to the court of public opinion, or rather the court of the Alba membership. Over the last few weeks, he's leaked a series of stories to the unionist press, the latest being the one in the Sunday Mail today, revealing the advice Alba received about the potential financial consequences of sacking him if he tried to appeal.
Apparently he genuinely anticipates that Alba members will react to this information by thinking to themselves: "WHAT? MacAskill actually tried to sack the untouchable McEleny? Has he taken leave of his senses?! Our eyes were shut but now they are open! We must rise up against the despot MacAskill and replace him with Ash Regan, who will restore the virtuous McEleny to his rightful place!" Whereas anecdotally Alba members are in fact reacting in the opposite way - they think McEleny is a jumped-up little nobody and that MacAskill should be congratulated for belatedly cutting "Mr Unsackable" down to size. They are appalled that McEleny is willing to drive Alba to financial ruin due to his own self-importance.
Whether McEleny realises it or not (and seemingly he doesn't), he's completely run out of road in the Alba Party and if he wants a political future it will have to be elsewhere. But the person who does still have something to lose, and who is being tremendously damaged by McEleny's antics, is Ash Regan. Somehow she's allowed herself to be convinced that embracing McEleny as some sort of martyr figure is the ticket to popularity in Alba, but it's actually going to cost her masses of votes in the leadership election, because party members are terrified (and with absolutely full justification) that she is intending to reappoint him to a senior position - perhaps Party Chair, perhaps 'Director of Operations'. They're breathing a monumental sigh of relief for having got rid of him at last and the absolute last thing they want is a Mad Dog Restoration.
*. *. *
Among those who have been bullied out of Alba over the last couple of years, there are mixed feelings about Craig Murray's recent blogpost. They are grateful to him for acknowledging that something has gone seriously wrong in the party, but they think he's falling into the trap of "both siding" the issue, by saying that the problem was caused both by an authoritarian leadership group and by an attempted insurrection against that group. In reality there was no attempted insurrection - there was just Tasmina exploiting Alex Salmond's deep paranoia after his legal ordeal by cynically convincing him there was a faction within Alba trying to overthrow him. That supposed rebel faction were actually the people who were most loyal to him - they practically idolised him and would have walked through fire for him, which was precisely why Tas regarded them as so much of a threat to herself.
There has also been deep disquiet about the revelation in the blogpost about how Mr Salmond reacted when Craig brought up the concerns that had been raised about the rigged NEC elections of December 2023. Mr Salmond apparently said that one faction had been out-organised by another faction, and that they had nobody to blame for that but themselves. Well, I can tell you that Mr Salmond claimed to me on the phone in September 2021 that the reason for the pay-per-vote system for NEC elections was to ensure that better-known people such as myself didn't have an unfair advantage, and that other candidates could level the playing field by mingling with conference delegates as the vote was taking place. He certainly didn't mention anything about the real intention being to enable "factions" to jostle against each other with bulk vote-buying strategies. That would have sounded like a somewhat less high-minded ideal.
James Kelly:
ReplyDeleteGiven your detailed critique of Chris McEleny's role and the broader leadership dynamics within Alba, do you think the party has any realistic path to recovery, or is its internal dysfunction too deep-rooted for a revival?
A leadership election is the obvious opportunity for a fresh start and the resolution of long-standing problems, but unfortunately that isn't going to happen because both candidates are flawed. MacAskill has recognised the problem of McEleny but has stuck his head firmly in the sand about all of the other problems. It seems he will retain both Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh and Corri Wilson. He will refuse to democratise the party. Whereas Ash Regan would restore McEleny to the heart of decision-making.
DeleteJames Kelly:
DeleteThank you for the reply. Given that neither candidate seems poised to resolve Alba’s deeper structural issues, do you think there’s any realistic scenario where grassroots members could push for meaningful reform, or is the party leadership too entrenched for that to happen?
It's strongly rumoured that Tasmina, Hamish Vernal, Daniel Jack, the Corri Nostra, etc, have stitched things up between them so that conference will not be able to even vote on whether the party should be democratised by means of one member, one vote for NEC elections and so on. So it's pretty much impossible to see how members can wrest back control without a more enlightened leadership taking over, and there is zero prospect of that.
DeleteAlba as a political party are already dead. The recent revelations on here were the final nail in the coffin. The money is already drying up and there are more revelations to come. Huge damage has been done and the BBC are sitting waiting till closer to the election next year to use recent events and disclosures to denigrate and ridicule the entire Independence movement.
DeleteI don’t think Ash Regan will restore McEleny’s power. So I think Alba has a chance if they elect her.
DeleteI have been supporting her online first because we owe her for resigning to vote against GRR and because I understand the damage Alba failing will do to the independence movement in that SNP will continue with their complacency and there will be no chance of a new indy party succeeding.
The McEleny tie up is a smear which I think is probably being circulated by the Kenny team because she didn’t support Kenny when he wasn’t using the proper processes to get rid of McEleny.
Is the grr that she agreed to originally along with labour, Lib Dem’s, greens and some tories? Maybe she should have stood on that as an election platform rather than steal the SNP ticket. ALBA are a done deal. Chatting to young family members who can vote the general view is that the false horror is based on right wing tactics. Predatory behaviour is heterosexual men in the vast majority of cases.
DeleteMany of the trans women are heterosexual men that's why they falsely claim they are lesbians
Delete"The McEleny tie up is a smear"
DeleteIt's not a smear. The Regan and McEleny campaigns are coordinated with each other, they are in lockstep on policy and strategy, and they even use the same soundbites and talking points. Regan has been given umpteen opportunities to distance herself from McEleny in interviews and at the hustings and has taken none of them. Instead, she's gone out of her way to say how angry she is about his suspension.
Anon 4.48pm
DeleteAsh Regan is not joining in with ostracising Chris. I don’t think that’s a bad thing that she’s not being a bully and kicking a man when he is down.
That doesn’t mean she is going to give him a job.
I have been carefully following the campaign I don’t notice any co-ordination between Ash & Chris
For example Chris was on about council tax rises and Ash isn’t.
Anon@4:19 Transwomen are nearly ALL heterosexual you idiot. That's the point of not allowing them to invade women's spaces. Homosexual men are attracted to other men - they have no desire to see women in a state of undress.
DeleteAnon at 8.32 ... references please for your first assertion.
Delete9.40 PM
DeleteSorry 😞 but you sound like a bumptious that. I'm harsh but fair. That's me for you in a nutshell. 🚢 🇪🇸 🌳
Anon @ 9.40pm
DeleteFind out for yourself. Do you need to becspoonfed everything? Some people are bone idle.
832 Transwomen are nearly ALL heterosexual you idiot. Anger is never a good look. How do you know? Do you check this out? Are you anti- heterosexual? Small minds, small everything else.
DeleteHave noticed a few prominent former Alba members backing different candidates.
ReplyDeleteEva Comrie for example is backing Kenny MacAskill and Denise Findley is acting like the unofficial Campaign Manager for Ash Regan to get her elected.
Put it this way. Nobody's going to invite them to the Balmoral Hotel for afternoon. I'll say no more but I say as I see.
DeleteEva has a brain & is principled. I hope she rejoins when Kenny wins.
DeleteAnon 6.06 pm
DeleteHow naive you are. Eva is never going to be allowed to rejoin. You don’t understand the people you are dealing with
James - while I can appreciate that Tasmina isn't your favourite individual, I think that you are trying to cut Alex Salmond too much slack as to what was going on inside Alba. As I've previously said on here, Alex was nobody's fool when it came to political intrigue. The reason why some of the things that happened inside Alba never happened when he led the SNP (during the two separate spells) was because there were always strong people around to keep him in check. I can appreciate that Tasmina probably had more influence over him than any others inside Alba but Alex wouldn't have gone along with anything if it didn't suit him to do so.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure that's true. I do think he shares the blame for what happened - I have no doubt that he signed off on my own expulsion before he died, for example. But I've heard from a number of people that there was a tremendous sadness about him towards the end, and that in private conversations he was admitting that Alba hadn't worked out. He was even starting to acknowledge that Tasmina was part of the reason for that, which would have been unthinkable even a few months earlier.
DeleteThe people he had around him within the SNP was the reason he became so vulnerable to Taz because those very people in the SNP stabbed him in the back causing his to question loyalty of others.
Delete'The people he had around him within the SNP was the reason he became so vulnerable...'
DeleteReally? The book 'BREAK-UP: How Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon Went to War' (fully legalled) - should be read so that you can read a balanced detailed account of events leading up to the origin of Alex's 'I'm a victim' narrative.
The pity is that the make-up of Alba, the fandom hero-worship pedestalling and unconditional adoration lent itself - and others with personal ambitions who latched onto Alex to elevate themselves and enable their own anti-Sturgeon/SNP grudges - toxically reinforced his being caught in a negative cycle which did not lend itself to any positive or health-related outcome being possible. The steamroller of negativity was too far down the road to reverse out even if at times it may have looked as if Alex himself might have wanted to put the breaks on - he was surrounded by people who would not have benefited from him seeking rapprochement with his old SNP colleagues so it looks as if there were those who needed to keep fuelling the anti-Sturgeon/SNP narratives to suit their own ambitions which had only come about because of the notion that Alex was stabbed in the back by them. The toxic split narrative served the personal grudges of others and it was too late for Alex to step up and clear that air once and for all.
It's unfortunate both for himself and others - and the independence cause - that he never did. There was a time when he could have - but it would have taken great courage and energy which was sadly beyond him.
Anon 11.34
DeleteThere is a lot of truth in what you say. I read The Break Up and I wish I’d read it before I got involved with Alba. Forewarned is forearmed.
The Break Up defauld Alex bullying and harassment of women civil servants. And their complaints were never dealt with.
The Lloyd,Sturgen and Murrell team did use the allegations against him to maximum effect. But they wouldn’t have been able to if his behaviour hadn’t been as it was.
Alex never took responsibility for his behaviour. And continued to claim he had been wronged. The people around him fed that narrative and anyone who questioned it at all was excommunicated ruthlessly. It was a matter of faith in the party. His supporters are even more rabid claiming that every prosecution witness committed perjury.
It is a mess and Alba and the independence movement must get over Salmond and Sturgeon
11.34am and 1.23pm. The Break Up was written by two Britnat journalists. Both have no objectivity and no balance. One of the authors has a player direct in the game. If you are independence supporters why do you trust the word of these people. I think you are Britnats.
DeleteThe jury did not believe the complainers nor their witnesses and heard the defence evidence but you know better because you read a book written by an author who actually took part in the framing of Salmond. You are an idiot or a Britnat or probably both.
Anon 1.57pm
DeleteThis is your mistake the criminal trial is not the subject of the break up.It’s the harassment at work claims.
And that is exactly how Salmond behaved.
5.04pm. First of all you give money to two Britnat journalists by purchasing this book. The sort of thing Britnats do.
DeleteSecondly, the same people are involved in both the judicial review and the criminal trial. Both authors were furious that they lost both cases. There is nothing balanced or objective about their writing.
Thirdly, the judge at the judicial review decreed that the process carried out by Sturgeon and her government was unfair, unlawful and tainted by apparent bias. Yet you choose to believe the story told by Britnats.
Fourthly, the judge stated that the Scot government report was to be never seen by anyone again. Why was that? Because it was a pack of lies put together by Britnats with no regard for the truth.
Finally, I would not waste a penny buying this book of lies and there are a lot more better books to read.
“The book 'BREAK-UP: How Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon Went to War' (fully legalled) - should be read so that you can read a balanced detailed account of events leading up to the origin of Alex's 'I'm a victim' narrative”
DeleteA balanced book, who’s main author was banging Liz Loyd, and helped publish the details of the deliberate leak by the Scottish Government - who were found to be “tainted with apparent bias”
Oh, yes, very balanced.
Davy Clegg from Norn Ireland the Britnats Britnat was willing to make such a sacrifice ( banging Lloyd) to get the Scoop of the Year award from his fellow journalists. They must have admired his dedication on the job.
DeleteDavy’s editor in the Daily Redcoat at the time was one Murray Foote subsequently to be Chief Exec of the SNP. You have to admit Sturgeon makes sure her helpers always get rewarded.
Cleggs book now on Amazon for only £6.99. Won’t be long before it is cheaper than toilet paper.
DeleteLaughable nonsense that a book by Clegg could ever be
Delete" a balanced detailed account". Clegg would be guaranteed to leave out the details he disnae like.
To all the men on this thread defending Salmond. He behaved exactly as described in the book.
DeletePlus he admitted in court to two sexual encounters one the sleepy cuddle and the other a consensual encounter with Ms H. He was no Angel take it from one that knows
22.39am. Defending the truth. Some of us know exactly who the H you refer to is and the lies she told. I don’t see any comment above saying Salmond was an Angel. It’s a sad world in which you get pilloried for a “consensual encounter “ and a “sleepy cuddle”.
DeleteWhile the Alba situation is abhorrent, it does at least mean all the dickheads in the Indy movement are in one place bothering each other and the SNP can concentrate on the grown up stuff.
ReplyDeleteLike getting more men into woman's spaces!
DeleteZzzzzzzzz
DeleteAnd, going by this post, getting more sleepers into the SNP.
DeleteThis post means your post you silly billy.
Delete1249- any men in particular or are they all tarred with the same? Pretty insulting.
DeleteYour idiotic comment tells us all where the true dickheads are
DeleteI've said it before and I'll say it again. You're floundering around like a one-eyed trannie who can't speak French.
DeleteAt the end of the day: Where do we go from here?
ReplyDeleteWe can go on about Alba being a failed project until the cows come home, but the reasons it was created in the first place still exist & if anything things have only gotten worse over the past four years.
The SNP looks set to head into 2026 just rehashing its 2021 campaign, with no fresh approach and no real plan to move things forward. The message being pushed now is that everyone needs to rally behind them, not because of any new strategy, but simply to keep them in power... then we cling on to vague hope that things will work themselves out somewhere down the line.
Is that really the inspirational plan the Yes movement can get energised and rally behind?
That's the crux of the problem - and why there's so much anger at the wasted opportunity that the Alba Party represents. It has actually made the problem of political credibility even worse for the independence cause. I will also add that I think that, for some former members, it doesn't reflect well on Alex Salmond. We were so pleased that, after the hell which Salmond had been put through, he promised a 'members led party' comprised of "the best of the 'Yes' movement". The crushing disappointment that we feel, given that the party is essentially a collection of cliques empowered on the basis of 'friends and family' is as nothing compared to the lasting fury that these people have made our country's future hostage to their own sense of self-entitlement and self-aggrandisement. Electorally they are finished - we cannot afford to place our trust in these kind of people again.
DeleteYeah but since the original problems started with the SNP the solution being proposed by some that we just need to unite behind the SNP again doesn't fix anything either...
DeleteAch there's always the NSP !
DeleteSo the Alba shambles is SNP Baaaad!
DeleteIf we’re being objective: people were already frustrated with the SNP’s stagnation in 2021… and the last four years haven’t exactly been kind to the party.
DeleteOperation Branchform, scandal after scandal, Humza Yousaf’s disastrous tenure (better left unmentioned) and their 47.7% result in 2021 looks like a distant fantasy compared to their current polling. You can shout conspiracy or deflect all you want, but at the end of the day, the SNP has no one to blame for its decline but itself.
And as for Alba... yes, it’s been a shambles. There’s no sugarcoating that. But that doesn’t change the fact that the reasons for its existence are still there.
I think SNP are on the rise. Thanks for the ALBA numpties bailing out. You proved that the extremists cannot agree on how to organise a vote without using PayPal.
Delete"I think SNP are on the rise"
DeleteBased on what? 🤣
The only thing they've got going for them is the hope that Reform will split the unionist vote.
It was also revealed a week ago that 5,585 members have left the SNP since the General Election bringing the total to 58,940, down from a peak of 125,691 in 2019.
DeleteCurrent polls show the SNP leading with around 33% of decided voter support, represents a big decline from the 47.7% achieved in the 2021 elections.
Salmond invented the Alba party specifically to *get* Nicola Sturgeon and destroy the SNP, they did neither but they were seen and exposed trying, they then became even less relevant than they were at their inception, now all that's left is the nasty badness with no one to target it at because not a soul in Scotland believes a word they say
DeleteIt's all over and the rats are running down the same ropes from their tiny sunken boat to find a meal somewhere else
And this site is still obsessed with a loser party that only ever had one agenda
And she's not gone because the public believed her and never Salmond, and they still believe her now
"And she's not gone because the public believed"
DeleteLast I checked she buggered off, left her husband, next to never attends Parliament to do her actual job anymore & gets heckled at any events she attends.
The ISP will save Scotland !
DeleteAnon 6:28 nonsense
DeleteAnon at 6.28pm is Dr Jim who is the raging mad dugger from WGD. Jimbo is frustrated that his everlasting love Nicola has shacked up with big Val rather than wee Jimbo. So he vents his frustration by attacking everyone who is English and anyone who is not an SNP member.
Deleteifs- homophobic and brit nat pretending to be a socialist!!
DeleteAnon at 3.46. Who is shouting conspiracy? Branchform is a politically motivated smear and it is working. No conspiracy, just standard U K dirty tricks. They did the same to A S
DeleteSo it's "a politically motivated smear" which involves the coordination of police and government...but it's not a conspiracy?
DeleteAnon at 10.29am is clearly a follower of the Alec Lomax school of commenting. A snidey wee one liner of abuse with no facts or argument to back it up. In other words 10.29am is a simple troll.
DeleteThe next thing anon at 12.06pm will be saying is that the CIA bought the motorhome and planted the evidence on Murrell's mother's driveway.
Keaton at 12.18. Yes. It’s a brazen open course of action. What is so hard to understand? The fact that you hang on to the word conspiracy and ignore the reality staring you in the face says so much about you. Grow up.
Delete5.14pm -it’s the nightwalker who likes to tell everybody to grow up. The reality staring you in the face is that money has gone missing and Murrell has been charged with embezzlement and another two people are under investigation.
DeleteAnon at 11.20. Didn’t realise there were active prosecutions. When did they start and what are the charges? In your own time. Hint. There will never be a successful prosecution because no crimes have been committed. The unionists just love gullible muppets like you. The political equivalent of cannon fodder. Another one on benefits who can’t understand that people work nights. Toddle off back to wings. Silly billy boy.
DeleteI am not sure that employment laws apply to political partys?
ReplyDelete"political partys"
DeleteShannon?? Is that you? I've told you that it's best not to post too much on line at the moment.
Could be worse. I’ve seen it spelled party’s.
DeleteIf course they do IF you are an employee as McEleny was. Obviously employment laws don't apply to members be they elected or otherwise but paid staff have the same protection as anyone else!
ReplyDeleteNobody is disputing that he was technically an employee and had those legal protections. The point is that it was completely inappropriate for an employee to hold the powers over members that he did, and it was certainly very wrong of him to abuse those powers as he did. An employee also shouldn't have been making up party policy on the hoof, as he regularly did.
DeleteEr I agree with you, it was meant to be a response to Anon comment at 2.03 that suggested employment law didn't apply to political parties. It does if you are employed by them. None of that suggests that McEleny has a case, just that he can make a claim as political parties aren't exempt.
DeleteHas he won best in breed?
DeleteCompetitive in "Eftir Pan-Breid" class.
DeleteHe's his Mother's Pride !
DeleteSeems unlikely he would’ve been entitled to a copy of the legal advice so is it not more likely that the Chair and he are still very much allies ?
ReplyDeleteWho would give Chris a copy of the legal advice?
DeleteWe can rule out Ash as she is no longer a member of the NEC so won’t have it.
I would.
DeleteI am who I am and who I am is who I am.
Live with it bitches.
What's the point of legal this or that for a party that never got started anyway
ReplyDeleteIt would be nice to have a credible Indy alternative to the establishment SNP or loony left Greens.
DeleteThere's Alba !
DeleteAlba never was a political party, it was Salmond's vehicle for the destruction of the SNP, he cared about nothing else except devo max or he wouldn't have asked for it to be on the ballot paper because he knew that option would win, but so did Cameron that's why he never allowed it and called Salmond's bluff on independence
DeleteThat began the downfall of Salmond from the SNP and why Nicola Sturgeon was asked to lead, if she'd had the same opportunity she'd have won a referendum on independence
Ah a troll post.
DeleteWhen you've been here a while you notice the word for word copy & paste arguments.
Like your's you mean
DeleteDr Jim once again posting his pish @11.43pm
DeleteRev posting pish at 5.03 pm.
Delete5.39pm posting pish.
DeleteI've never posted push but I did once pop Quarter of a pound of liver in a jiffy bag and send it to a neighbour I didn't like.
DeleteJames - where do you stand on trans men/woman (read per your opinions) being allowed into female only spaces, eg. changing rooms, toilets etc?
ReplyDeleteI'm amazed you don't know, because according to Professor John Robertson, I never talk about anything else. I think female-only spaces (and male-only spaces for that matter) should be protected, with the caveat that there should be common sense about what can and should be policed.
DeleteAnd now it's time to round this discussion off by hoping that everyone took the right lessons from International Women's Day:
Deletehttps://x.com/Corri_Wilson/status/1898477074903683463
Doubt it, it'll be used to put the boot into the SNP.
Delete"Principled", LOL. Well I suppose "me me me" is a sort of principle.
DeleteDarling Carole-Anne! So delightful to see your link to a intriguing tweet! We must all meet - the Inner Circle as Sebastian calls us.
DeleteDo people still not realise Tasmina is a UK plant/ selfish careerist B Atch who only cares about herself?
ReplyDeleteShe could be right at home in any of our pathetic so called political parties
Independentista or cap doffer variety
There’s currently no democratic way to liberate our country from English subjugation if anyone hadn’t noticed.
What a pathetic bunch
Wasn’t she AS’s long term partner? Something odd in these discussions is how everyone pretends they didn’t know AS and TAS were an item.
DeleteAnon 7.04 AM
DeleteDoes that explain why Tasmina turned against Denise Findlay? Maybe Alex was getting too friendly with Denise?
8.40am. Maybe you are an old fish wife who likes a bit of gossip.
DeleteWhisper it quietly but I think DF has finally buggered off.
ReplyDeleteYou should be so lucky, numpty! Divisive trolling ALBAIST SCUM.
DeleteState of this.
Pretending to be D F. How sad.
DeleteI see the future Canadian premiere ex Bank of England Chief had this to say about Trump and the Americans. "Carney is now referencing the United States, saying Americans "want our resources, water, our land, our country".
ReplyDelete"Think about it. If they succeeded, they would destroy our way of life," he says.
Carney references how healthcare in America is a big business, whereas in Canada it is a right.
"America is a melting pot. Canada is a mosaic," he says.
"America is not Canada," he adds. "Canada will never ever be part of America in any way, shape or form." Can't help but think if we could replace America for England and Canada as Scotland it would be even more accurate.
True
DeleteCanadians have too much pride and self respect though. They’d never vote against their own independence.
DeleteQuebec though, they’re more like us!
Scotland has been taken over by the people who came from elsewhere and called themselves English, they then leave England because they don't like the next set of people who are a different colour of people who call themselves English
DeleteThe trouble with Scotland is it's full of Scots who are mostly white, so they put up with us until we speak our own language that's different from their language and that constantly reminds them that they don't like us
The exceptionalism of the English is why the world can't stand them, but the English cannot understand why the rest of the uncivilised world feels that way about such an exceptional people
Dr Jim again at 5.29pm.
DeleteIfS has popped up !
DeleteHe's just a jack in the box. And quite a nut in a smock. He's always bouncing around on a string.
Delete5.38 and 6.40pm - moronic trolls.
Delete7,24pm
DeleteDuller than ditchwater. Boredom on legs. Extravagantly dreary.
10.36pm - moronic troll.
Delete11:13 AM
DeleteGreetings, dullard.
Labour and the other unionists say Holyrood is the most powerful Parliament is shown to be a lie as Ontario increases prices to USA for energy and raw materials. England retains control here. Wake up Scots!
ReplyDeleteWhy are all the top CEO jobs (like the BBC for example) in the British isles appointees of the British government in England? why are they always ex Ministers or friends of Ministers of the English government?
ReplyDeleteAnd I don't want an SNP Baaaad answer to that, especially today.
Why? Because the UK is the collapsed remnant of a global empire run as such, by the aristocracy for the aristocracy, without a constitution or an independent judiciary to question them.
DeleteThe United States was established with this iniquity explicitly in mind. They wrote their constitution with the intent to be better and to stay better than the Brits that ruled them.
They had a good 200 years or so.
@Jimbo in the wild, do you not have anything of your own to say instead of copying everything from Wee Ginger Dug contributors?
Delete5:16 pm Anon.
DeleteYou are a boring farter. 😴
Issa best if you vote Shannon Donoghue for NEC. She has 50-50 chance and there is still time to stop the random malcontenta comunistas.
ReplyDeleteAnd then you can make money like The Mamma used to make.
#SistersOfPeroxide
Well, there is the theory that NEC members will be personally liable for legal costs if McEleny goes to a tribunal, so from that point of view, yeah, Vote Shaz.
DeleteThey should hold the election in a tittie bar. So people might turn up for an ogle!
DeleteBut what if she's benefitted from all the free publicity? She might be able to 'do an Abdul Majid' and come storming through the field. The subsequent JK blogpost would be worth reading.
Delete"Shaz, We Can!"
She and Farage would get on well. Both enjoy getting pissed.
DeleteSad to see some negative comments about N Sturgeon. Nicola Sturgeon's legacy is big and includes her contributions to advancing social policies, promoting equality and strengthening Scotland's presence on the global stage.
ReplyDelete7.59am. Sturgeon never even tried to get independence. A complete charlatan.
DeleteZzzzzzzzzz
Delete3.25pm . Is that you Nicola reading one of Val’s books again?
DeleteIt is a matter to be thankful for that John Swinney was willing to step up as leader for the good of the country. It was not his private personal aspiration. Rather it was something he did for the SNP and he deserves credit for that.
ReplyDeleteIt's time to vote for Crossmaglen Chris!
ReplyDeleteHe has been Master of the Scrutiny Committee dealing with the biggest snakes. (We know who they are!) He has a knowledge base of COSLA EXcel Scotland SDP policy procurement and governunce.
Also he is realy hunky. And he has a glamourus partner who could win aclaim from the public.
Say "Si! Si!" to C.C.
(Published on behalf of the Corri Nostra, 2025.)
There is no doubt that Alba have successfully streamlined themselves into a more focused, efficient political force. Rather than being a lifeboat for a broad spectrum of SNP refugees the Alba party now has a clear identity and is better placed to make the breakthrough at HR26 towards achieving our independence. We can all agree on this, surely.
ReplyDeleteHow did you measure "success"
DeleteThis has to be either AI or satire? No one can actually be that stupid.
DeleteChris has always been like this it's nothing new at all yet the author here chose to link up with him and the Alba party....Sorry James you can run but you can't hide, Your's was also about a sniff of power...
ReplyDeleteAny comment to this effect that I put up gets deleted. Watch this about to be space.
Delete12.11pm how long do you want us to watch this space for?
DeleteAs an SNP member of many years it is interesting to a point of individuals justify why the joined the SNP, left to join another party and then run back to join the SNP again. Still welcome, as opposed to the I will never vote ever again brigade because they haven't already go independence. I blame that lot in 1707.
ReplyDelete1.32pm. No I blame that lot in charge since 2014 who never even tried to get independence despite being provided with election win after election win and mandate after mandate. I blame people like you who supported the crooked, lying leadership.
DeleteAnon@ 1-41pm
DeleteYou're an ignorant arsewipe.
Anon ...1-32pm
DeleteYou type gobbledegook....or maybe you're drunk?
2.04pm. Nothing but personal abuse but I take it you agree with 1.41pm but just don’t like the truth being spoken.
DeleteJames being booted out of Alba and immediately rejoining the SNP is like breaking up with your partner then moving back in with your parents.
Delete141- I blame you for being ignorant and sitting on yir hands.
ReplyDelete2.31pm I sit on a seat.
DeleteWoS rools!
ReplyDeleteThe new rools:
ReplyDeletehttps://wingsoverscotland.com/the-evolution-of-fairness/#more-149797
Cut and paste taken to a new level. And the usual nonsense comment from the fake rev. He really doesn’t understand how the voting system in Scotland works. Still, more money from the mouth frothers.
Delete4.16pm. Explain how the voting system works and what WOS does not understand.
DeleteAnon at 4.48. I am going to do that for you because? Aw, didumms, did I upset you? Ask your hero. Alternatively, find out for yourself, preferably before the election next year. Although you will probably be pissing your votes up a wall. How much has he got you to part with? Oh dear, that much.
Delete5.57pm thanks for proving you are an ignorant liar.
DeleteAnon at 6.02. Ah. Personal abuse. You do know what that means? Silly billy. I’m guessing the answer to my question is quite a lot. Oh well, it’s your money. Now toddle off back to wings. You fit in better there.
DeleteWings troll alert at 6.02.
DeleteBetter ignoring Wings, 99% of the Scottish population do.
DeleteThicko alert at 6.55, 6.41 and 6.39pm. Best toddle off to WGD more thickos there.
DeleteOK rev
Delete@7.36 PM IFS is hiding behind anonymous again
DeleteAnon at 8.16pm. Stop being obsessed about me. Get yourself a hobby ya numpty.
DeleteShona Robison not standing for re-election in 2026. Another of Sturgeon’s pals getting a nice ride on the gravy train called Scottish independence riding off in to the sunset with a nice pension for life. A grifter who did nothing to get independence.
ReplyDeleteWhat did you ever do to "get" independence from an English government that says no?
DeleteThe Alba nutters have a new excuse for Salmond now, he's dead or he would've got independence
DeleteExcept at no time did Salmond ever try to get independence, his preference was devo max remember
The best things to happen in the SNP in recent years is Sturgeon resigning from government, Yousaf resigning from government, her husband Murrell leaving the SNP and fellow unionist Murray Foote leaving the SNP.
DeleteUnfortunately, there are plenty more devolutionists still in charge of the SNP doing Westminster’s bidding.
That you hiding behind anonymous again IFS ?
DeleteThat you anonymous at anonymous 8.11pm hiding behind anonymous again!
DeleteAnon at 8.11pm. Get yourself a hobby. You are seeing me everywhere. Paranoia.
DeleteDr Jim at 5.05pm trying to rewrite history ( once again) just as the SNP did when they redacted, no, deleted Salmond , from their official history. Jimbo, Salmond was the only person who has given Scots the vote to end the UK. No matter how often you post your nonsense that is an obvious fact which you cannae change.
Delete5.01pm. Did you expect them to say yes, jolly good show old boy, have your independence any time you want.
DeleteDo you not realise the what IFS demands will happen such is his delusional view of the world. Of course he has an evil doppelgänger -who prevents this from happening. Been an independence supporter all her life in belief and actions, comes from Ayrshire!
DeleteAnon at 9.06am - that post is gibberish. Seek help and stop obsessing about me. Get yourself a wee hobby to pass your time or you will end up in care.
DeleteScheme Goblin jets now at edge of Shannon Donoghue air-space!!
ReplyDeletehttps://x.com/LeanneTervit/status/1899474876076872092
I'm ramping up my energy and synergy. I'm ploughing ahead. I'm empowered. I am woman. I am man.
ReplyDeleteWings troll brigade conducting a wee campaign this early evening. Nice lot.
ReplyDeleteWhere?
DeleteHere, Stu.
Delete8.09pm - simple question posed ignorant reply. I’m not Stu. Where exactly what posts?
DeleteConvicted felon, draft dodger and woman groper Trump ramping up steel tariffs to 50% against Canada. WOS, Alba and Trump are linked. Mmmh? Discuss.
ReplyDeleteJavelins.
DeleteWingsy's a Steve Bannon worshiper, probably got himself a wee cloak and everything
DeleteAnon 6.42. It keeps them from hanging around street corners.
ReplyDeleteMark Hirst - “ I have never claimed to be smarter than Alex Salmond but I did directly ask him, in 2018, why did he not see Nicola’s flaws long before she took over in 2014.”
ReplyDeleteAlex Salmond replied - “ I didn’t realise she was a f***ing pathological liar then, did I.”
That’s typical of Salmond. It really doesn’t answer the question at all. Mark Hirst is supposed to be a journalist. The obvious follow up is didn’t you notice she was a pathological liar?
DeleteThe truth is Salmond surrounded himself with deeply unpleasant people. Birds of a feather.
Seems there a few more lies being told here.
DeleteMade up. Sad really. Tells us only what you are.
DeleteDid someone mention Pembrokeshire early potaaatoes?
ReplyDeleteJavelins
ReplyDeleteSwinney is a good leader for the SNP. Everything should vote SNP as it is better than other political parties.
ReplyDeleteI mean everyone.
DeleteAnything that ends up as a lot of chips.
ReplyDeleteJersey Royal ?
ReplyDeleteNow the argument against independence is what a person looks like? Personally Ayrshires are the best.
ReplyDeleteNew tatties oot o ma granny's gairden, wi butter an spring onyins.
DeleteC’mon- are you posh or what -spring onions? Cybes.
DeleteIngens.
DeleteSome heartening news on a chilly morning. The SG has canned another poorly drafted bill dreamed up by the Scottish Greens during the BHA days. Patrick Harvie's Heat in buildings bill which would've forced new homeowners to fork out for a Heat pump won't see the light of day, saving a fortune for consumers.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I burn old car tyres to keep warm. I get them free from my local scrappy who would otherwise have to pay to get rid of them. It's a win win.
I burn old Chris McElerny newspaper stories that I get from Jimmy's Chippy
DeleteWhen has a scrappy ever paid for waste disposal?
DeleteLuminous Meringue says Whoop whoop whoop 🤭
DeleteAye right Margaret 9.17 . I hope you hold your breath when burning them rather than breathing in the smoke.
DeleteIn a shock to no one: Former First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will not seek re-election to Scottish Parliament next year, she announces.
ReplyDeleteIt will be a shock to WGD numpties Scottish Skier and Dr Jim who have been forecasting for a while that she will make a triumphant return as FM again and lead Scotland to independence. Declan (Scottish Skier) isnae very good at the forecasting lark.
DeletePoor old Jimbo just as he is trying to recover from his fantasy about Sturgeon being dashed ( she is living with Val rather than with him) his other fantasy about Sturgeon returning as FM is also dashed.
I told these two numpties 5 years ago she was a charlatan who would never deliver Indyref2 never mind independence. The same goes for Swinney.
Stick tae the ISP, they're about your level, and equally as ineffective.
DeleteIfS at 12.51 ... why are you so in love with these people? Change the tune for Crissake.
Deleteparturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to speak Spanish go to Spain. Showoff snob.
DeleteIt's Latin
ReplyDeleteWhen are we going to put energy at the front of campaigning fae Independence? Price of electricity is high because of UK demand. Power lines destroying our countryside to take it South. Battery farms , pump storage also causing huge damage-- 6 schemes on Loch Ness alone in the pipeline and threatening the ecology. And when will they come for the water itself?
ReplyDeleteEngland has had 50 years of oor oil- the remainder should be ours ( and better for the planet if we keep it solely for Scotland).
Electricity generation should be under our control, if we kept it small , for Scotland, our environment would be saved from yet more wind farms , powerlines and other damaging developments.
Alba gu brath!
Scotland is England's colony and as such we have no rights. Until we have an independence leadership who shout this from the rooftops we will get nowhere. The east coast of Scotland is being covered in offshore wind farms to send electricity down to England. We get no benefit from this.
DeleteThe SNP leadership are devolutionists.