Tuesday, February 18, 2025

If Alba are going back to begging for "tactical" votes, the basic arithmetic of the situation is going to make it very hard to convince people

The Alba Party's suspended General Secretary broke his radio silence on Twitter at the weekend. 

First of all, of course, there's the little psychodrama here of why McEleny has suddenly started posting supportive tweets about Alba when he appears to be firmly on his way out of the party, unless his ally Ash Regan pulls off a major surprise in the leadership election.  I suppose it's possible that the MacAskill leadership might shy away from expelling McEleny from the party altogether simply due to his apparent closeness to Alex Salmond (the "telepathic link" and all that) - it would look like they were questioning Mr Salmond's judgement.  However, it does seem practically certain that McEleny's removal as General Secretary will be upheld on the grounds of "gross misconduct" - and if you find someone guilty of gross misconduct in 2025 you can hardly run them as a Holyrood list candidate in 2026.  My guess is that if McEleny is left with no role in the party, and has no means of using the party as a vehicle for his ambitions to become an MSP, he'll leave voluntarily.

But let's take his tweet about the 2026 election at face value.  It suggests that Alba are in a right old strategic muddle, because it implies that once again they will not be trying to win votes in the normal way by persuading voters that they are the best party, and will instead be begging for votes on a tactical basis.  OK, it's perfectly understandable that they don't think pitching themselves as the best party is a viable option, given all of the very public in-fighting, and the McCarthyite purges, and the deeply unattractive personalities at the top, and the half-baked policy platform.  (Even though I was an elected member of the Alba NEC for a year, I still don't have a scooby whether the party wants to rejoin the EU or not - all you ever hear is the holding position about joining EFTA for the time being.)

But if you're going to pitch for tactical votes on the list, you have to do that coherently.  You can't say to voters that they need to vote for different parties on the constituency ballot and the list ballot, and then announce that in some areas you're standing on both the constituency and the list and want votes for both.  As I've mentioned before, I heard McEleny suggest as recently as August that the plan was to stand in at least eight constituency seats, and I've since discovered that others have heard him say exactly the same thing on other occasions.  

And even if it wasn't for that hopeless incoherence, the raw arithmetic just doesn't support Alba's pitch for tactical votes anyway.  Here is the seats projection from the new Norstat poll broken down into constituency and list seats - 

Constituency seats: 

SNP 54 
Conservatives 10
Liberal Democrats 5
Labour 3
Greens 1

List seats:

Reform UK 15
Labour 15
Greens 9
Liberal Democrats 8
Conservatives 8
SNP 1

So of the three largest pro-independence parties, the only one whose list votes are entirely 'wasted' is Alba.  The SNP's list votes do produce a small return, but the one pro-indy party that leaps out as getting proper bang for their buck on the list is the Greens.  So as a rational voter, there are only really two options to choose between.  Either:

1) You can take the same view as I always have, which is that the Holyrood list system can't be 'hacked' because there's too great a risk of tactical votes backfiring and producing the opposite effect from the one you expect.  That would lead to the conclusion that you should always vote for your first-choice party on the list regardless of circumstance.

OR 

2) If you insist on taking a big risk with a tactical vote, you would identify the pro-indy party with the best statistical chance of converting tactical list votes into list seats.  At the moment it's impossible to escape the conclusion that party is the Greens.  There are Alba list votes going completely to waste which could actually have a chance of producing extra pro-indy list seats if they transferred en masse to the Greens.  

There is no planet on which Alba is the best statistical prospect for a tactical vote.  I suppose their get-out clause would be "ah, but the Greens aren't really a proper pro-indy party, are they".  That's a tough sell, a) given the Greens' track record of full involvement in the 2014 Yes campaign, and b) given McEleny's own argument that the pro-indy majority is under threat and on a knife-edge.  In a crisis situation, are independence supporters really supposed to muck around on the basis of purity tests?  

121 comments:

  1. SNP constituency vote. SNP or Green List Vote. Bye bye Alba?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I voted SNP constituency and Green list in 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011 and 2016. I always got a Green for my efforts—Robin Harper back in 1999—and I got an SNP MSP just the once in 2011.

      Then the Greens purged Andy Wightman (my MSP!) out of their party for trans-cult reasons I've never understood, which scunnered me on them entirely. Wightman went off to the Highland region so I couldn't re-elect him.

      I voted SNP and Alba in 2021. First time I've ever lost on both ballots! I expected more for Alba in 2021 but they fell short, all right. Can't see them doing any better now.

      Seeing how awful the Greens still are, though, I’ve no idea who to vote for next year.

      Delete
    2. Anon 11.07 both votes SNP.

      Delete
    3. Vote SNP on the list here in Lothian? The SNP hasn't won a list seat here since 2007:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothian_(Scottish_Parliament_electoral_region)

      They absolutely could lose constituencies in this region, like they did at WM last year, but would their list vote hold up enough to win any back on the list? I don't consider them a valuable use for my list vote.

      The Greens used to be the ideal choice here for a guaranteed win on the list. But that party's transformed so much they've given me the boak!

      Delete
  2. if SNP voters back Alba on the list it guarantees keeping unionists out of Bute House

    Interesting use of that word. If SNP voters back the SNP on the list it also guarantees keeping Unionists out

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I'm not sure how either suggestion guarantees that, but I hope it does.

      Delete
    2. Voting SNP on the list in 2021 ensured scores of Unionists were elected on the list.

      Delete
    3. Those unionists wouldn't be elected if hundreds of thousands of Scots weren't actually voting for them, mind.

      The "tactical voting" on the list argument is still ultimately just cheating the result. A "Yes" majority in Holyrood based on well under 50% of the vote doesn't get us any further than Lorna Slater and chums doing harm back in government again.

      Delete
    4. Yeah, it's nuts. The idea that getting Holyrood representation to be (even more) unfairly skewed in favour of Yes parties will cause Westminster to fork over a S30 is such a waste of everyone's time

      Delete
    5. Keaton the SNP and the Greens are a waste of time when it comes to independence. They proved that since 2021.

      Delete
    6. Well getting a pro-independence majority without either of them is going to be a toughie

      Delete
  3. "...given the Greens' track record of full involvement in the 2014 Yes campaign "
    I suppose by that logic what the SNP did in 2014 puts them beyond criticism now.
    And let's remember that notional pro-Indy majorities can be under threat from within.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Still better than any vote that allows in unionists?

      Delete
    2. "And let's remember that notional pro-Indy majorities can be under threat from within."

      Quite so. If you'd elected Chris McEleny in 2021, you could easily have woken up one day to a Reform MSP. There are always these risks.

      Delete
    3. Lisa Cameron SNP MP defecting to the Tories. the most anti independence party you can get. How many more of these types are in the SNP.

      Delete
  4. Vote SNP in both votes in 2026 for a fairer, greener, more progressive and more inclusive Scotland.

    They’re leading on net zero with green jobs and renewable energy. On LGBTQ+ rights, they back equality and on immigration and diversity SNP is welcoming.

    Both votes SNP mean real progress for Scotland’s future—don’t leave it to chance.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The Devolutionist's charter.

      Delete
    2. "On LGBTQ+ rights, they back equality and on immigration and diversity SNP is welcoming."

      Given what's going on with NHS Fife at the moment and the entirely justified backlash against the gender idiotology that's a guaranteed vote loser in Scotland.

      Delete
    3. Anon at 8.26. Read the room, or at least the news. N H S Fyfe? And anon at 9.13. The country still has to be governed on the road to Indy. You need to get real.

      Delete
    4. Another map showing why Scotland is different:
      https://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=705403

      Delete
    5. 8.26

      "And anon at 9.13. The country still has to be governed on the road to Indy. You need to get real."

      Can you run that by me again please. This time not in gibberish.

      Delete
    6. 8.26am - progressive with the SNP/ Greens means putting rapists in women’s prisons. Progressive with the SNP/ Greens means putting men in women’s sports. Progressive with the SNP/ Greens means putting men in women’s changing rooms. Part of the reason SNP getting 30% in the polls and independence getting 50%.

      Delete
    7. “ The country still has to be governed “ Holyrood is a devolved government. The real power still lies with Westminster. Hence self ID was binned by Westminster. Holyrood does not govern Scotland if it did we would be independent. The SNP should focus on independence not all the shit policies they have tried to deliver since 2021.

      Delete
    8. Sadly for the Indy only -you still owe it to the people to govern with the powers available now.

      Delete
    9. Holyrood is not the electoral college for a rolling referendum on independence.

      That idea worked once, in 2011, when we secured indyref with a section 30. There's been two more majorities for independence won there since. That mechanism is not working.

      Delete
    10. Anon at 12.05. Read it again, more slowly. It’s very simple. Like you it seems. Silly billy.

      Delete
    11. Numb Nuts @ 3.20pm

      Evolving gibberish to verbal diarrhea doesn't make you any more coherent.

      Delete
    12. Anon at 4.39. You should put the shovel down. You are coming across as a thicko in addition to being an arsehole. Good little billy boy. Off you go to flute practice.

      Delete
    13. Anon at 1.05. Go to the Holyrood Parliament website. It will explain the devolved powers and their governance from and by the Scottish parliament. Glad to have been of assistance.

      Delete
    14. 4.39

      OK, my underestimation. You are a vocally incontinent moon howler.

      Delete
    15. Numb Nuts @ 5.25pm

      I need the spade to counter the merde that emanates forth from your keypad.

      Delete
  5. The argument against the Greens, though, is that they've shown time and again that they're willing to drop their support for independence at the drop of a hat.

    Lorna Slater has openly admitted that independence isn’t a red line in future agreements, meaning they’d be willing to work with a party like Scottish Labour. Beyond their weak stance on independence, their time in government was marked by sheer incompetence. It’s difficult to ask anyone to support a party like that.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. That's why both votes SNP. No messing around this time.

      Delete
    2. The point is there is 10-15% of people who are not likely to vote SNP anyway.

      Roughly, its 30% and they used to get 45%.

      So the argument is trying to entice those people. Or even half.

      It's not worked and doesn't look likely to work but that's the argument.

      Delete
    3. It's also important to realise that most people when voting don't vote purely on the constitutional issue and disregard everything else... especially when there's currently no plan in place to turn independence into a reality.

      People remember the student politics antics and how much money the Greens jizzed away on policies that weren't thought through and never came to fruition. Just supposedly being a pro-indy Party isn't enough by itself.

      Delete
    4. The Greens are still polling very well, even after the humiliation of getting thrown out by Humza Yousaf (of all people!) for sheer incompetence.

      You get the feeling the people who support the Greens don't know much about them. They're succeeding in spite of themselves. I mean, Climate Change is a huge concern for young folk especially, so it makes sense they have a high floor.

      Maybe Environmentalism is to the Greens what Independence is to the SNP: the thing you were elected for, but can't be arsed delivering.

      Delete
    5. "I mean, Climate Change is a huge concern for young folk especially"

      Ironically when was the last time the Scottish Greens actually talked about that?

      Delete
    6. 10.17

      Exactly. If independence isn't an issue, its a referendum on SNP government to many people.

      Delete
    7. Well to a few zealots

      Delete
  6. It is ALBA’s position that an independent Scotland should join the European Free Trade Association (EFTA) as an immediate priority. This will allow Scotland to gain access to the European Economic Area (EEA) and effective free trade with the EU, thus mitigating the negative effects of Brexit.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Indy first. E U considered thereafter. Alba position irrelevant in any event. They are finished.

      Delete
    2. As I said, I'm none the wiser. Do Alba want to join the EU or don't they? We know all about the EFTA holding position but what's the eventual goal?

      Delete
    3. To stay outside (but otherwise in sync with) the EU, like Norway, presumably.

      Not nearly as popular as full EU membership though, I bet.

      Delete
    4. They say that EFTA membership would enable Scotland to negotiate to become a full member of the EU in due course if the people of Scotland so choose whilst enjoying the benefits of free trade, thus placing Scotland in a much stronger negotiating position with the EU for future membership.

      They don't outright state the ultimate goal but their wording strongly implies that EFTA is a means to an end rather than the final goal.

      Delete
    5. For "strongly implies" read half-baked. My guess is that McEleny and some others are anti-EU and there had to be a fudge to appease them.

      Delete
    6. How was Salmond on EU membership?

      And Nato for that matter?

      Delete
    7. Why do you think that?

      Delete
    8. Is that directed at me? Because I've seen McEleny post stuff that doesn't make him sound like a supporter of EU membership.

      Delete
    9. 62% of Scots want to be in the eu. I suspect it is even more now. EFTA is a watered down version.

      Delete
    10. It could keep Brexiter Jim Sillars happy though.

      Delete
    11. They have one elected representative anywhere. What's her opinion? Does it involve thermometers?

      Delete
  7. Ash Public Focus Ginger GroupFebruary 18, 2025 at 10:28 AM

    This survey will only take a couple of minutes of your time and will help in building a political way forward for Scotland. Here are the questions:
    1. Should I continue to speak with a Cheviot accent?
    2. Will greater use of the vernacular boost my chances against Kenny The Mooth?
    3. Is it time that Shannon Donoghue was slapped down by a mature and high profile elected politician?

    Thank you! As a reward you may claim a blue tick, 5 Scot Goes Pop credits and 20% off your next order from Kris's Kappielow Kebab.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Can I join the Ginger Focus Group? I’m only blond, but.

      Delete
    2. 11.14am get lost with your stupid Z posts. Zero value.

      Delete
    3. Anon at 12:43 ... but it had probably more value than the original post at 10:28.

      Delete
    4. Anon at 12.43. Get lost with your get lost retorts. Silly man. Zzzzzz was an apt response.

      Delete
    5. Anon at 3.15pm Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      Delete
  8. Chris McEleny has put himself forward to be Alba Depute Leader, standing against Neale Hanvey !

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Who's counting the votes?

      You only really need to persuade them, after all.

      Delete
    2. Needs the money probably, so get the subs paid. Paying useless people a salary does seem to be the main function of Alba. Bit like WOS. Easy money if you can get it.

      Delete
    3. All of that's true with bells on top for the SNP, of course!

      Including the bit about fiddling a leadership election.

      Delete
    4. The issue Chris faces: Neale Hanvey is well known and popular within the Party.

      Delete
    5. Chris needs 100 nominations. If you are an Alba member nominate Chris the contest will be top entertainment value, possibly featuring a ouji board.

      Delete
    6. Borderline Guard Of President JamezFebruary 18, 2025 at 1:46 PM

      The Secret Army for the Vindication of President Jamez are poised to surround McEleny in Co-Op Food Gourock and seize control of the tannoy.
      But this is if there are unpatriotic errors in the popular vote.
      Viva President Jamez!

      Delete
    7. 200 nominations? Considering they only got 63 votes at Kirkintilloch. Mair chiefs than indians !

      Delete
    8. Apparently, Joe Biden is putting himself forward to be nominated as one of the Leaders of Alba. According to Private Aye that is.

      Delete
  9. Alba within touching distance of a breakthrough.......
    When touching distance is defined as the likelihood of Chris McEleny breaking the 100m world record.

    ReplyDelete
  10. I think we should all haud our wheesht until David Francis shows up and tells us what to think. What business has any of us forming opinions before The Man Himself has laid it down? It's not a good look for independence supporters, or any bunch of rabble, to have independent minds.

    Be patient. It's coming for a' that.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Lol. SNP VOTE COLLAPSING, independence support FLATLINING, and now Alba—aka the party that was meant to DESTROY the SNP’s woke empire—is back to BEGGING for tactical votes because they can’t convince people to vote for them on their own merits. And who’s leading this latest desperate plea? McEleny, who’s about TWO TWEETS away from being BOOTED OUT of his own party. You honestly couldn’t make this up.

      And let’s talk about the "strategic genius" behind this. Alba’s plan is to beg for list votes while also standing in constituencies—so they want people to vote SNP in one place, Alba in another, while also pretending SNP is beyond saving? Make it MAKE SENSE. Meanwhile, the GREENS are actually winning LIST SEATS, SNP still manages to scrape ONE, Reform is SURGING, and Alba? NOWHERE. AGAIN. But aye, let’s all pretend voters are just queuing up to throw their ballots at a party that can’t even break 1%.

      And the excuse? "BUT THE GREENS AREN’T REALLY PRO-INDY!" Aye, because THAT’S the real problem here, not the fact that Alba is a politically homeless collection of Twitter warriors who spend more time fighting each other than making a serious case for independence. If this is the big master plan to take Scotland forward, we’re actually in MORE TROUBLE than I thought. The ABSOLUTE STATE of it.

      Delete
    2. David Francis has a secret plan. Believe.

      Delete
    3. Lol. A SECRET PLAN? Aye, just like the SNP has a SECRET ROUTE to independence—totally real, definitely happening, just need to BELIEVE. Maybe the plan is to LOSE MORE VOTES, maybe it’s to IGNORE THE ELECTORATE HARDER, or maybe it’s just to PRETEND EVERYTHING IS FINE while Reform and Labour eat their lunch. But aye, let’s all sit tight and have FAITH in the GENIUS MASTERPLAN that definitely isn’t just "hope the voters stop noticing the SNP falling apart." The ABSOLUTE STATE of this delusion.

      Delete
    4. Wait until you see the whites of their eyes. Then wait some more!

      "Hold… hold… … …"

      Delete
    5. Wait until you see the Albumen. [Geddit??]

      Delete
    6. How I detest LARGE CAPS

      Delete
    7. Would SMALL CAPS be OK?

      Delete
    8. Lol. Ah YES, the REAL crisis in Scottish politics—NOT the SNP vote COLLAPSING, NOT independence support GOING NOWHERE, but the USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS. Truly, this is the debate that will lead us to FREEDOM. Maybe if the SNP shouted a bit LOUDER they wouldn’t be BLEEDING VOTES, and maybe if Alba had spent less time IMPLODING they wouldn’t be BEGGING FOR SCRAPS. But no, let’s all focus on the REAL issue—TOO MANY CAPITALS.

      And aye, let’s compromise—maybe small caps for the SNP’s future electoral hopes? Or better yet, invisible caps for Alba’s list seats? The ABSOLUTE STATE of these priorities.

      Delete
    9. You David Francises were funny at first but now you're boring.

      Delete
    10. "You David Francises were funny at first but now you're boring."

      Much like the real one.

      Delete
  11. Lol

    Would you mind repeating all that, Tenth Rate Anon Imposter 😁

    Ta much, Dummy.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I mean he seems to have words randomly in all caps for no reason down well.

      Delete
    2. I think the imposter is the phoney reverend, or one of his most loyal disciples.

      Delete
    3. Readers, we feared that James Kelly would allow SGP to degenerate into a vile and nonsensical hell-site...

      Delete
    4. The Right Reverend CampbellFebruary 18, 2025 at 2:29 PM

      Lo!
      For it was foretold,
      As in the Scripture,
      As written in the bath,
      And cried aloud for these umpteen nights,
      And spoken, in truth and word.

      I, Your Father, always said it was a web shite.

      Amen.

      Delete
    5. Musk-Campbell Fruitcake CompanyFebruary 18, 2025 at 3:31 PM

      We shall refrain from commenting.

      Delete
    6. Funny Franny's back!

      Delete
  12. Starmer considering sending troops, no wonder that many Labour voters are going back to the SNP

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. We are poorly served by our political parties. Starmer is worse than Thatcher.

      Delete
    2. Order of boots on the ground.
      1. All Royal family.
      2. All landed gentry and title holders.
      3. All children old enough to serve from the above 2 categories.
      4. All MPs who voted for boots on the ground and all their offspring of sufficient age.
      5. Starting at the top, work down the earnings records of HMRC. Highest earners downwards as and when needed.

      In short, those gaining the most from the current corrupt system in the UK put their lives first on the line to defend their interests.
      Any suggestions on additions/alterations would be most welcome.

      Delete
  13. This is confusing, which one is the real D Francis?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Lol. The REAL David Francis? SIMPLE. It’s the one who tells you SNP is the MOST POPULAR PARTY ON MAINLAND BRITAIN while its vote COLLAPSES, and Reform UK SURGES. The one who insists SNP is STRONGER THAN EVER while they BLEED votes in every direction and barely hold on to a pro-indy majority. The one who will call Alba a JOKE PARTY but still expect their voters to come crawling back when needed. The one who will NEVER admit the movement is in absolute FREEFALL because that would mean facing reality.

      So aye, which David Francis is real? The one in absolute DENIAL or the one who secretly KNOWS the game is up but just can’t bring himself to say it? The ABSOLUTE STATE of it.

      Delete
    2. It's a good impression to be fair, that's your exact writing style.

      Delete
  14. The SNP the supposed party of independence does not like people having an independent mind. Group think rules says David Francis. You must obey or else.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anon at 12:39 ... you forgot to put some words in capitals.

      Delete
    2. Ach, there's always the NSP !

      Delete
    3. Bell End's smart though: his party's not standing on either ballot. Can't blame him for splitting the indy vote! It's a win (nothing) - win (nothing) strategy.

      Delete
    4. Anon 2.58 what's the point of him having a political party then ?

      Delete
    5. Big Eater From PerthFebruary 18, 2025 at 4:54 PM

      The New Scotland Party is indivisible. As it expresses its nature it cannot be at war with itself. Branches do not need to exist. And pesky reality checks from constituency results are avoided.

      Delete
    6. Bell proposes UDI which is an absolute non starter. Interestingly he goes very quiet when asked to map out the process.

      Delete
  15. Nah........you are getting it mixed up with Alba, pal.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. It’s spelled ABLA for fuck’s SAKE ya diddy! For crying in a BUCKET. You cannae make it up!

      Delete
  16. The thing is if the SNP get the same %age for the list as the constituency, i.e. 35%, and shave a bit off other parties, the SNP get 4 list seats for a total of 58 seats with the Greens at 10. That means the SNP can afford to lose 1 as PO if it's their "turn".

    https://www.electionpolling.co.uk/swingometer/scottish-parliament?election=2021s&cSNP=35&cCON=15&cLAB=18&cLD=11&cGRN=6&cREF=14&rSNP=35&rCON=15&rLAB=16&rGRN=9&rLD=10&rALBA=3&rREF=12#Scotland

    If the SNP aren't basically going to sweep the board of constituencies, then they need every single list vote they can get to make up for the lost constituency seats. Just like 2011 without which there would have been no referendum at all.

    ReplyDelete
  17. Incidentally as a comment on Fergus Ewing, if the SNP do cravenly sack him I think he'd stand as an Independent - and get elected. -1 for the SNP on the cons but a greater percentage on the List to compensate!

    Such a cunning plan Baldrick ...

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. It's almost as if winning constituency seats counted arithmetically against you on the top up list…

      Delete
  18. Yi2, no he won’t.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. YES HE CAN!

      Picturing the poster with Fergus’s fine visage and the word HOPE emblazoned on a halo…

      Delete
    2. Fergus will have Kevin McKenna as his election agent.

      Delete
    3. And YIR2 will be in charge of trapping stoatirs.

      Delete
    4. That's a stotter! Or is it the way you walk?

      Delete
    5. Aye , and he (YIR2 ) will be feedin currents soaked in ethanol tae puir wee pheasants.an wringing their necks . Better than leaving em tae the gun totin toffs.

      Delete
    6. I should start charging fees for membership of my fan club. £10 a month and that's £30 or £40 already. Kerrrrrrrching!

      Delete
  19. See above post by James. Both votes SNP gives the SNP ONE additional regional list MSP. That’s right only 1 additional SNP MSP.

    Also as per the above post by James - 46 regional list MSPs for Reform/Labour/Libdem/Tory.

    Both votes SNP gives you lots of unionist MSPs.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Both votes SNP is the safest option in terms of maximizing SNP MSPs.

      Delete
    2. 7.07pm - yes it is. But it is also the safest option for maximising unionist MSPs. It is a loser approach. Look at all the unionist MSPs on the list in 2021 and then look at how many SNP list MSPs there were. Explain why a party that claims to want independence tries to maximise the number of unionist MSPs.

      Delete
  20. Mike Lothian: That's the second time you've misrepresented my position on the same subject. It's the complete opposite of what I said in the blogpost and you can see that for yourself. Don't do it again. Comment deleted.

    ReplyDelete
  21. Just popped on here for a quick pick me up. Thanks gadgies.. it’s good to laugh.

    Seriously what if Reform keep rising in the poles? Are they a threat to the SNP constituency vote? I wonder what percentage they need before that happens?

    James do you know?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. As explained in a previous post, Reform are causing much more harm to fellow unionist parties than to the SNP.

      Hope this helps.

      Delete