It's a great pity that we're four days away from a general election rather than an independence referendum, because we'd be on the brink of victory in the latter if tonight's new Norstat poll is to be believed.
Should Scotland be an independent country? (Norstat)
Yes 50% (+1)
No 50% (-1)
That's still significant, though, because in some past general election campaigns independence support has tended to tumble in the polls, often largely unnoticed. My assumption has generally been that this happened because a UK campaign would progressively suck Scottish voters into a "Britished" mindset, albeit temporarily. It may be that the Labour comeback is disguising the fact that voters are actually becoming more resistant to that process and are viewing this campaign through a Scottish lens as never before.
Scottish voting intentions for the UK general election:
Labour 35% (+1)
SNP 31% (+1)
Conservatives 13% (-1)
Reform UK 8% (+1)
Liberal Democrats 8% (-1)
Greens 3% (-1)
Alba 1% (-1)
Seats projection: Labour 28, SNP 18, Conservatives 6, Liberal Democrats 5
I'm actually reassured by that, because it's a picture of stability that totally contradicts the message of yesterday's Survation MRP poll which suggested there had been a hefty swing to Labour over the course of the campaign. The SNP remain close enough to Labour to have a good chance of winning a substantial haul of seats, and if they recover just slightly, or if they're being underestimated just slightly, an outright national victory remains possible. On the other hand, they're also in a perilous position because the voting system would punish them heavily if there's even a small slippage in support, or if the polls are overestimating them.
For all the hype about Labour, note that they are projected to be one seat short of an overall majority in Scotland, so they're not expected to be back to the total dominance they enjoyed pre-2015. I'm not totally convinced the projection of six seats for the Conservatives, even though it was calculated by John Curtice himself, really passes the smell test given that their national vote share would be their lowest in history. If that projection is an overestimate (and if it is an overestimate, it could just as easily be a severe overestimate as a small one), it would probably work in the SNP's favour. So twenty seats may not be totally out of reach for the SNP even if they remain slightly behind Labour on the popular vote.
Leaders' net ratings:
John Swinney (SNP): -7
Anas Sarwar (Labour): -9
Keir Starmer (Labour): -13
Nigel Farage (Reform UK): - 39
Douglas Ross (Conservatives): -44
Rishi Sunak (Conservatives): -60
And the above is the reason why I remain of the view that the SNP are probably in a better position right now than they would have been if Humza Yousaf had still been leader. Swinney isn't Mr Charisma, he isn't doing anything exceptional, but he's not actively repelling or enraging voters, which may be half the battle at the moment.
In The Sun's write-up of this poll, which is penned by the notorious Conor Matchett of the #Matchettgate fake poll scandal from 2021, there's an extraordinary claim from an anonymous Liberal Democrat source that the Lib Dems are "nailed on" to oust Drew Hendry in the Inverness, Skye and West Ross-shire seat. Well...I'm not on the ground, so I can't say whether it's right or wrong, but intuitively it sounds like a stretch. The Lib Dems are starting from a fairly distant third place in the notional 2019 results for that seat, and even if they reckon their fake bar charts are paying dividends and giving them momentum, it's hard to believe their canvass returns are comprehensive enough in such a geographically vast constituency to tell them for certain that they're going to win. I'm not ruling out that the prediction will prove true, but it also wouldn't be the first time in recent general elections that the Lib Dems have been light-years out in a claim about a result in the Highlands. We'll see.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Drew Hendry was under pressure . Alba don’t have a candidate and I am swithering as to whether to vote for him , after he stabbed Kate Forbes in the back in the contest against Yousaf
ReplyDeleteGood point. He is not very popular locally, at least among my support network.
DeleteTotal rubbish.Drew is VERY popular locally.
DeleteUsual underminers wanting the Brit nats to win
DeleteI live here and Drew Hendry is pretty popular in the area. Both with local and newer people.
DeleteEncouraging poll.
ReplyDeleteRemember everyone to vote ALBA if they are standing in your constituency and otherwise vote for any other pro independence party.
Remember everyone to vote Alba if possible. Signed. Anas Sarwar.
DeleteIgnore this rubbish
DeleteI was over on Skye recently and the vast majority of placards I've seen were for SNP. I did see some lib dem ones but generally they were greatly outnumbered.
ReplyDeleteThis is excellent to hear.
DeleteThanks James - agree that this poll is reassuring.
ReplyDeleteThe seat projection seems curious. Will the Tories really hold onto their six seats with only 13% of the vote?
ReplyDeleteAgree fully.
DeleteRemember that unionist votes in Scotland are *highly* tactical. There’s a lot less resistance between red, yellow, and blue tory votes here.
DeleteFor example here in Edinburgh, there’s no obvious difference between the leafy unionist bastions of Edinburgh West and Edinburgh South. Both are minted, peppered with elite private schools, and profoundly No. Yet the anti-independence vote is overwhelmingly Liberal in one and Labour in the other.
Labour won South with 48% of the vote yet achieved an embarrassing 8% in West! The Libs won 40% in West while getting another shameful 8% in South. Striking symmetry, don’t you think? Yet walk around either seat and you’ll be hard pressed to sense a lick of difference.
Unionist voters were horrified in 2015. They learned to vote tactically en masse, and they will keep doing so. Where they sense the Tories are their best bet, they’ll still pile on and win.
Unionist voters smell blood of SNP more than the inevitable tory loss in London.
DeleteWouldn't be surprised if they kept most seats they have
I guess there will be some tactical voting. Not sure if Reform will have an impact here. A fair bit of the Tory dip seems to have gone to them but not as much as in England. The Liberals could do well in England too due to tactical voting despite their primary selling point being Davey falling off things.
DeleteThe WGD/Anon numpties can troll me all they want but it disnae hide the fact that independence is at 50% and the SNP at 31%. It wisnae my posts that did that it was the SNP leadership they supported. This is more evidence I have been right all along and they are the numpties. The numpties have recently been telling people they will have to own the result if they don't vote SNP. Well they should look at 50% and 31% and own that.
ReplyDeleteI don’t think you are trolled. People respond to you in like manner. If you are abusive you must expect the same back. Don’t like it? Don’t do it. And really most of us are just laughing at you. And I see you conveniently omit mention of Swinney.
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Delete@9:15. “Most of us.” Got any data to back that up?
DeleteCertainly, I read a lot of comments backing up IfS here, and I myself am responsible for only the occasional one of them. A fair few people are in agreement with him, which isn’t surprising when the SNP goes to such lengths to consistently prove him right.
The SNP jumped the shark. The duggers took over the dug house. All’s well with stitched-up Scotland. Vote for carrots and wheesht.
WOS syndrome here. Multiple posts by a small number of people. And before asking for data perhaps you need to ask who we refers to. Maybe don’t try so hard to appear intelligent. Follow Mark Twains advice and stop embarrassing yourself.
DeleteTroll alert at 9.15am.
DeleteNo answers then? Thought not. Jog on Idiot for Scotland.
DeleteJohn REDACTOR MAN Swinney. There you go troll at 9.15am and 9.45am. Swinney mentioned just for you anonymous troll. Sturgeon's deputy when all the unacceptable practices were being carried out.
DeleteThe thing about these idiot trolls is they cannae even post to a decent standard e.g. saying who they are referring. They seem to think people can read their numpty minds. " Jog on " what sort of numpty posts this stuff - oh that's right a WGD numpty.
DeleteAddress the issue, which is his popularity, not your infantile nickname for him. It’s not that difficult.
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DeleteIFS gives the place a bit of life. Too many snowflakes on here who can't cope with the truth.
Delete9:15 Is probably the same guy who told me "we" know who you are. He seems to talk to the voices in his head a lot now that he's stopped posting that he agrees with himself
DeleteThe anon troll at 9.15am and other times above disnae seem to understand the difference between a statement, an issue and a question. He disnae seem to realise you have to ask the question in the first place to get an answer.
DeleteAt 9.15am he says " I see you completely omit mention of Swinney" . Anon that is not a question but a statement.
Anon then says " address the issue, which is his popularity" again not a question.
Anon then claims I did not address his question. Anon seems to be unaware what constitutes a question. Hope I have helped him out even though he is a troll.
Oh dear too many nerves touched I see. I will call out your lies, your disinformation, and your stupidity. I see you’ve recovered from the humiliation of being called out as an idiot (his word not mine), by James. Think about another wee holiday. I’m finished with you for today. Off you toddle.
DeleteWell said Felix. They don’t like it up em, as the saying goes.
DeleteAnon at 12.04pm isnae just a troll he is a loony tune as well. The loony disnae say when he did any of what he claims because none of it ever happens. So much for him wanting to ask me a question. He cannae even address his replies properly. "Jog on " has been replaced with "off you toddle" - 😂😂😂😂.
DeleteThe troll is just a loony making up lies.
felix-“snowflakes” . It’s the sort of comments used by reform and Trump supporters.
DeleteNot one WGD/Anon numpty willing to consider and post thoughts on why there is the 50% independence 31% SNP disconnect. Just personal abuse from a troll. It's like they think the disconnect will just magically disappear. At the 2019 UKGE the SNP got 45%.
Delete3:15 Well that proves it! I'm obviously a Republican from the good old USofA! How old are you - 12?
DeleteIdiot for Scotland. We know why there is a disconnect. But we are grounded in reality and know that your lot and Alba are not the answer.
DeleteTroll alert at 4.27pm.
DeleteIf you know why there is a disconnect why not tell everyone what it is and what should be done to remedy it. Otherwise you are just a troll dishing out personal abuse.
Were you born with a spoon in your mouth? An aluminium one?
DeleteAnon@12:04 When did James call IFS an idiot?
DeleteThere is nothing more pathetic than a troll whose post is meaningless and the troll does not say who the trolling is directed at. That’s Winkleshoe.
DeleteOwen Mullions. Do your own homework. Did you not notice IFS doesn’t deny it? He was missing for several days after it. Humiliated. It was discussed at the time, just not with IFS.
DeleteVery encouraging poll on the Indy question, certainly brightened my Sunday morning.
ReplyDeleteGE poll not quite so, though not the worst poll for the SNP by any means.
It would be particularly disappointing if the SNP didn’t take at least some of the 6 Tory seats.
So why are we so concerned about having a WM majority, if it is not linked to independence support? WM will play their games knowing that indi support is at 50%. Starmer telling Scots that indi is dead won't make a jot of difference to actual support. We mustn't get too down about Scot/lab having more seats, it's meaningless other than in their own tiny minds.
ReplyDeleteYou missed the part where Starmer told you what he intends doing on the basis of reduced number of SNP seats?
DeleteIndependence support means nothing to these people because without a centralised voice (that we have in the SNP) they are far easier to ignore. I should have thought that would be obvious.
DeleteAs far as they're concerned, if the SNP loses the majority of Scottish seats, the indy movement is dead.
Apart from the WGD Shrimp and myself all the other posters are anonymous so far on this article.
ReplyDeleteSo what?
DeleteIfs- is that your name on your birth certificate? I suspect you are hiding your name and your real purpose. You don’t grasp the term anonymity do you?
DeleteTroll alert at 3.17pm.
DeleteThe oldest, most tired comment on SGP. I can't even be bothered to explain what is meant by identifier any more. The sooner James bans all these anons the better.
DeleteOwing millions- look I’m not anonymous I have a made up name!
DeleteHilarious. Now perhaps you could have the courage to post under that 'made up' name rather than skulking in the background making daft 'jokes' .
DeleteTo me, this feels like the most "foreign" election yet. I haven't watched any of the debates (even the ones with the SNP), or any of the tv programmes, and I've barely clicked on any news headlines. I just feel totally disconnected from it, and I used to be an election junkie! As you say, if others feel like that, then its not so much a disconnection between the SNP and independence (although that is real too), but a disconnect between voters and the UK.
ReplyDeleteIt's the most apathetic election I've ever experienced. Barely anyone is talking about it seriously.
DeleteWe have become inured to politicians promising much and delivering only the most marginal gains.
SNP will lose seats but independence is still an issue. People just don't want to vote SNP forever and have them be complacent on other matters. Another push will come.. 70s, 90, 10s... a Scottish lion will roar but it's keeping its claws hidden for now.
Yes all the vibrancy and hope of 2014 seems to have disappeared in 2024. I blame the lacklustre performance of the SNP since then, settling into life in Edinburgh and London and failing to motivate the indy supporters any more.
Delete100% right, feel as though the snp have really connected with the voters this year. That's why I don't trust the polls at all and I expect to see the snp win comfortably. The other parties have a massive disconnect with the voters.
DeleteAnon at 9.58 (now deleted): Apologies if you were genuine, but that really did come across as a "KC attempting to be subtle" post.
ReplyDeleteI read an article in the Guardian by Val McDairmid that had already been edited for her false stuff about majorities, but remained unedited about her lying that Scottish child benefit was given to everyone with children.
ReplyDeleteCan you elaborate? No clue what this is supposed to mean
DeleteI will elaborate hence: Are you under the impression that Scottish Child Benefit is a universal payment? Because it's means-tested by the DWP. I will elaborate further: It is punted as a universal benenefit, when it's very far from a universal benefit. Try applying for it.
DeleteNo, I knew the payment was targeted at those most in need.
DeleteChild payment only recently changed at UK level for upper middle classes.
If only the Scottish government could target those most in need intead of nocking £100 off the local tax on a mansion every year. Do you know that local social care has just about been obliterated by Holyrood cuts over the last decade?
DeleteHere dont get me wrong, im open minded and not partisan. I want whats best for Scotland. I agree council tax should change, it's not the only aspect to the budget though.
DeleteLabour have a policy on this do they? Happy to support what's better. I'd happily support better policies. I find Scottish Labour to be charlatans who've basically got no obvious policies and have just hung around long enough for another party to become slightly less popular.
I have no faith they'd do anything substantially different in these policy areas, don't agree with Scottish people's right to decide their future.
I also don't want to be blackmailed to vote SNP either. Homeless
I also don't believe any party is callous enough to obliterate social care deliberately. And of all the parties, my suspicion is SNP would try a little harder for people. Like the Scottish child payment. It could not exist at all, couldn't it? Never mind whether it's universal or not. Would Labour have even had the balls to be different and introduced it? Debatable. Clearly decisions have had to be made.
DeleteThe SNP virtually obliterated local social care so you got a council tax freebie for a decade. Now you can buy a cheap DVD player from the proceeds, if you can climb out of the pothole in front of your closed public swimming pool.
DeleteMy swimming pool is open. Still if independent we might be able to have a better swimming pool and repair more roads. Until the britnats wake up who live in Scotland and recognise that Westminster will never help as they are the problem. Scotland is best governed by the people of Scotland. Is not that hard to understand.
DeleteThe two parties you mention. One doing astonishingly well and one doing badly are barely 5% different in popular vote.
ReplyDeleteTeachers have been treated very well in Scotland, very well paid.
Teachers in Glasgow are getting sacked.
ReplyDeleteSource?!
DeleteThe Tories down to 13% is a drop of 12 points but a loss of half their vote. The SNP have dropped 14 points, which on paper is more, but that's a loss of a third of their vote. So proportionally it's less. The Tories can't drop by 13 points in say Glasgow East because they only got 12% last time. So they will drop more in seats where they are stronger. That happened in 1997. It happened to Labour in Scotland in 2015. The Tories are in a 'death zone' where it becomes very difficult to hold on, even with tactical voting.
ReplyDeleteIn one city. Will eat my hat if it actually happens.
ReplyDeleteThey wanted proportional wage increases for principal teachers... money doesn't grow on trees.
Regardless, you can't say one party is doing astoundingly well and another terribly when their support is virtually the same.
ReplyDeleteHe did say 'compared to the last GE'. So, in that sense, he's right.
ReplyDeleteSCOTLANDS DEMOCRATIC DEFICIT
ReplyDeleteIn UK GEs what England wants England gets.
In Holyrood elections Scotland gets what England thinks is acceptable to England.
This is not a democratic deficit. It is a colonial relationship. About time politicians started telling the truth and stopped calling it a democratic deficit. Scotland has not got the basic right of self determination and this means Scotland is England's colony. It was designed that way in 1707. It's about time our scaredy cat politicians started telling its people the truth instead of hiding behind weasel words like ' democratic deficit '.
Scotland’s democratic deficit is the embarrassing, open void between the SNP’s parliamentarians and the reason we put them there.
DeleteAnon at 11.38 (now deleted): again I can't be sure, but that felt like the sort of thing KC would post if he was trying to be subtle. Please use a name, or ideally sign in to a Google account, if you want to post comments like that.
ReplyDeleteVery encouraging, shame we do not have a stronger political party to drive that 50% . The SNP are going to be weakened and Alba and others too small. I will vote SNP but I really do not expect them to do anything. Might be a wasted vote.
ReplyDeleteIf Scotland were as politically aware as sometimes we think we are then we wouldn't play the general election game that Westminster foists upon us
ReplyDeleteNo party in Scotland that represents Scotland only can form any kind of government in London and doesn't want to, so isn't the best thing to do if we want independence for our country is not to vote for any of the London parties at all , making it clear to Westminster Scotland doesn't want them
If we can all agree on that then we know that London will not even consider votes for small parties in Scotland counting for anything and they'll dismiss them as the disgruntled angry
So vote for the biggest party SNP, because that does not mean they will be the government and it's not a Holyrood election so nothing changes, so as an exercise whoever we vote for doesn't matter except as a protest vote
So Scotland should protest by voting SNP, it's as good as saying Scotland doesn't want to be ruled by the UK anymore, because it won't mean anything else, Scotland's votes never do
“So Scotland should protest by voting SNP, it's as good as saying Scotland doesn't want to be ruled by the UK anymore”
DeleteThe indy-shy SNP has a funny way of showing that. Everything they’ve *done* since Brexit is indistinguishable from a compliant unionist administration. They simply yap a bit while obediently doing it.
James have you thought about migrating to wordpress? -it should make moderation easier in the long term.
ReplyDeleteI suggested that before but he seems to prefer this platform. I know WordPress has some layouts which are almost self-policing if you set them up right.
DeleteThe Lib Dems will certainly not win Inverness Skye and Wester Ross.Their candidate is spending a lot of money,but Drew Hendry will be re-elected.
ReplyDeleteHi James
ReplyDeleteBrian here. I’ve been recommending (here) a SNP vote everywhere except for Western Isles, where I’ve basically said “not sure, not enough information”.
Just read your excellent piece in the National on this seat.
So, SNP no chance there? Only sensible Yes vote is for the incumbent?
Thanks.
Na h-Eileanan an Iar and Grangemouth are the two most dynamic contests in Scotland. Mainstream SNP, former SNP and Labour in the fray in both of them. I’ll be positively surprised if they don’t both fall to Labour, but they’re surely election night’s most anticipated fights along with the bungling tour de force of Douglas Ross.
DeleteI’m SNP through and try rough, but prepared to change my tune where it’s needing changed :-)
ReplyDeleteBrian
* through and through, lol
ReplyDeleteHe’s speaking to us through the ouja board!
ReplyDeleteW…I…L…L…I…E…S… But what does it *mean*?
The perfect storm of concern trolling. 🙄
ReplyDeletemaybe he is a lost soul yet to "step into the light"?
ReplyDeleteYou mean in that particular seat? If so, yes.
ReplyDeleteIn other seats the Unionist tactical vote is a material threat to Yes victories, less so apply Yes votes as nearly all Yea votes should be SNP in practice. That’s my best guess, anyway.
Brian
Spellcheck… !!
ReplyDeleteSecond try at this…
You mean in that particular seat? If so, yes.
In other seats the Unionist tactical vote is a material threat to Yes victories, but less so split Yes votes as nearly all Yes votes should be SNP in practice outwith the Western Isles. That’s my best guess, anyway.
Brian
It looks like the polls in Scotland are 'herding'. Quite the gamble.
ReplyDeleteThe huge variation in the SNP share, from 29 to 36; 36 being 1.24 times the former is the same variation as in 2021. In 2019 it was 1.12.
ReplyDeleteIn each case, though under very different fortunes than today, the SNP generally performed in the upper range of polling. Outperforming it in 2019. Indeed every party other than the SNP underperformed indicative of a weighting issue. In 2021, the SNP outperformed the regional vote polls; this time at the expense of smaller parties (Greens, Alba, Reform)
That doesn't mean the Labour share is wrong outside the margin of error but if repeated, suggests the SNP could in the mid 30s. If there's a mild polling miss, as has happened before, they could end up with a vote share similar
The problem is if SNP are 35ish alongside Labour, Labour's votes are concentrated in areas whereas SNP more spread. Could feasibly lose many even though actually ahead in popular vote.
DeleteThat should have been unionist prick lol.
ReplyDeleteWe can only hope that Micheal Matheson - you know, the guy that used to be vaguely in charge of the NHS, doesn't stray out of roaming-range with his sprogs and give people in intensive care a £10,000 invoice.
ReplyDeleteIf a random stranger came up to me loudhailing an opinion poll about anything in a pub, well my opinion leans towards a cattle-prod, but it's not going to happen - it's made-up crap.
ReplyDeleteProbably mixing it up with the SNP vote share, a lot of people think they're the same thing.
ReplyDeleteWell , if you're an Indy supporter you're daft enough to believe Britnat propaganda. Or you're a disingenuous Britnat. Nae government is perfect , but if we ever bet a Sarwar lead Scot gov , god help us!
ReplyDeleteAlistair Campbell says Nigel Farage and Alex Salmond have the same purpose, just angry small men
ReplyDeleteIs that the Alasdair Campbell who lied about WMD directly leading to the deaths of over 1,000,000 Iraqis?
DeleteSign of desperation when you're reduced to using Alastair Campbell as your source to badmouth Salmond.
DeleteThere's always Donald Trump
Delete7.07
DeleteWhat a nasty comment. Civil nationalism of a social democratic nature is the hallmark of Scandinavia. To want the same for your own nation is nothing like Trump or Farage. Nonsense.
Aye an Sunak an Starmer / Sarwar , fit are they but Britnats fa hae the neck tae deny democracy tae oor country.
DeleteThe lowest type of nationalism is the British variety. The Brits have exploited half the globe by colonisation of " inferior peoples" . Most theses countries have woken up and got their freedom.
ReplyDeleteWhen will Scotland wake and throw off the yoke of British imperialism ?
Anon at 6.09 not what he used to say. Said he was impressed by Salmond, that Salmond was warm, less sleepy than expected - in fact salmond invited Campbell to be part of the post independence negotiating team - to ensure balance and fairness. It's in Campbell's diaries I believe but a quick resume here https://www.thenational.scot/news/19173050.alastair-campbell-says-alex-salmond-invited-onto-post-indy-negotiating-team/
ReplyDeleteSneery not sleepy
ReplyDeleteFreudian
DeleteYes was on 37pc but No on 45pc 16pc undecided - you gov polls seem to have a lot of undecided for some reason with Yes way down compared to other pollsters - perhaps James would know if this was methodology. For me the interesting figure is undecided - that's 16pc not die hard unionists. 16pc not content with the status quo. All to play for there.
ReplyDeleteYes, you're correct there it was 48pc No - don't know where I got 45 from. Still there's 16pc not happy with the status quo and the big job for us is to make an argument and vision that will bring them to YES and to convince some of the 48pc that independence is better for them and the country as a whole.
DeleteWT, you’re absolutely correct.
DeleteAt first glance this poll, giving an 11% No lead, looks bad, but not so when you factor in the 16% undecideds.
As you say, these 16% are obviously not happy with the status quo, and the task is to convince them of the benefits of independence.
I accept this isn’t a typical poll, but clearly we need to convince more people on independence.
I have form for reading things into polling/election results that aren't there, so I'll defer to others here who can read them better. My eye was caught by the 50% of respondents supporting independence, but 64% supporting unionist parties at the election. Is there data in there to indicate whether respondents have opted out of answering one question and not the other, producing that result, or that independence supporters will be voting for unionist parties at this election?
ReplyDeleteI think it's fairly clear that some 15% or so of independence supporters intend to either abstain or vote unionist (mostly Labour I imagine) on the 4th. It could be disillusionment with the SNP or just higher priorities than independence like the cost of living and a desire to lash out at the Tories for the mess they've made.
DeleteLet's face it, independence isn't happening under the SNP as it is anyway.
I would love to see a breakdown of that 15% of voters overall, 30% of independence supporters. One in three independence supporters won't be voting SNP (judging by some of the responses in these comments that's not a popular choice on here) and it looks like they're either voting unionist or not voting at all. I wonder why we aren't seeing a more significant alternative indy party presence on the polls.
DeleteI agree, I’m at a complete loss as to why Alba aren’t polling higher, with them clearly being the most Independence focused party.
DeleteIt makes you wonder how important independence actually is to some people!
Indeed, SNP support is down by nearly a third since it's peak, and for most of the things that I can imagine would have lost the SNP that support, Alba have theoretically at least positioned themselves as the logical pro-indy alternative. Have those voters who switched on to politics in time for 2014 been switched off again?
DeleteIt's so difficult for a new party to gain traction with the electorate. Remember how long it took the SNP to rise from being a 'fringe' party to the dominance it has now.
DeleteI've already sent in my postal vote for Alba - a forlorn gesture of course but otherwise any alternative to the SNP will wither on the vine.
Doing labours work for them. Trying to discourage voting? Too late all my family have voted for the SNP. Felix away home and play with your cat.
ReplyDeleteMost cretinous comment of the week - congratulations!
DeleteYou're the cretin Felix
DeleteTouché (or should that be touchy?)
DeleteStill 6 votes SNP cast.
DeleteOoh! That'll win the election🤣🤣🤣
Deleteyet when Swinney was asked about where Independence would be if SNP have a poor result, he utterly fumbled the ball, with his usual wordy hesitant response to everything. All he had to say was 'Nothing happens to Independence regardless of SNP fortunes, and this is the challenge to the Unionist parties, do they represent all of Scotland, or just one half? '
ReplyDeleteBut its dear John, and he didn't, he ballooned an absolute tap in, right over the bar!
Still the folk out to undermine. Is your post basically saying vote for unionist parties. Is it vote for ALBA whose current MP’s will lose all seats at Westminster, Greens won’t get elected nor the other minor independent parties will be lucky to get 100 votes where standing. Most SNP see the abstentionism tactic form mainly labour trolls who are beginning to panic.
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