Wednesday, June 1, 2022

Latest TELEPHONE poll for #Referendum2023 says 50% of the public will vote for independence - and that's BEFORE the campaign for next year's guaranteed referendum even gets underway

Full-scale telephone polls in Scotland are relatively rare these days, but we do get one from Ipsos-Mori every few months - and it's always fascinating, because it tends to show better results for Yes than most online polls.  That raises the tantalising possibility that support for independence has for years been running at a considerably higher level than we generally assume.

Should Scotland be an independent country?  (Ipsos-Mori / STV)

Yes 50% (-4)
No 50% (+4)

So the short-term direction of travel is mildly disappointing, although actually this 50-50 split is identical to the result of an Ipsos-Mori poll around a year ago, so there's not necessarily any evidence of a longer-term decline for Yes.  And it would be hard to argue that this is anything other than an excellent platform from which to kick off our guaranteed 2023 independence referendum, especially when you bear in mind that there were Ipsos-Mori polls in the run-up to the first indyref showing a 2-1 majority for No.

Judging from the summary of the poll on the Ipsos-Mori website, it looks like there was either no Holyrood question in the poll, or the Holyrood numbers are being held back for another day.  But what we do have are Westminster voting intentions (although how relevant those are is open to question, given the majority SNP-Green government's guarantee that an independence referendum will have been held well before the next Westminster general election takes place in May 2024).

Scottish voting intentions for the next Westminster general election:

SNP 44%
Labour 23%
Conservatives 19%
Liberal Democrats 10%
Greens 3%

There are no percentage changes listed because I can't find any sign of Ipsos-Mori having previously asked the Westminster question in recent years.  There may be a slight cause for concern that the SNP are a touch below the 45% they achieved in the 2019 election, and also that there's been a clear swing from SNP to Labour, who now seem to have clearly re-established themselves as the second party of Scottish politics.  However, the gap between SNP and Labour remains twice as big as it was in Labour's mini-comeback year of 2017 under Jeremy Corbyn - and remember even that election produced only seven seats for Scottish Labour.  Also of note is the relatively strong showing for the Liberal Democrats, which supports the impression from the local elections that they may be recovering somewhat.

Last but not least, the poll confirms that the majority of the population want an independence referendum to be held at some point - with precisely 50% wanting it either by the end of 2023 or by 2026.  Just 31% of voters think a second indyref should never be held.

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9 comments:

  1. Telephone poll in the run-up to liz windsor's do? Maybe some too nice and polite to upset british pollsters?

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  2. James, I live in an area where I am now the only Scot - the last one died earlier this year. Every one of my neighbours are English. They are all very nice people just wanting a better life than that they had down south = some are from Toxteth, some from Moss Side and most for some strange reason from Yorkshire but they all are No voters. From what I hear there have been a lot of incomers from England over the last few years down in the Borders and in Ayrshire - as well as up here in Highland. Do we have any information on why English people come to Scotland and also demographic details? I know that many of my NO voting friends here like the Scottish NHS services better such as free prescriptions etc. (most of them are pensioners) as well as the clean air. It might be useful information to include in any poll as it might help to inform policies that would make independence more attractive to our English friends living here.

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    1. If Sturgeon had not postponed the Census for a year and then made a complete bollocks of it we would be near to getting some answers as to the numbers of English immigrants in to Scotland. You would think that an independence leader would want that info if she was serious about independence but no - trans ideology trumps everything. Is Sturgeon setting the social environment for her to trans to a man in the future? Or her husband to trans to a woman?

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    2. Hello IFS there's even an article about this on Bella Caledonian. There is nothing we can do about the import of NO voters to the country EXCEPT to try and change them to YES. I know its a tall order (I haven't been able to change one of my neighbours) but perhaps if we find out what they value or fear we can use the information to shape future policy that might make independence attractive to then. For example if they are all pensioners (like all my neighbours) then having a well thought out and believable policy on future pensions - perhaps enhanced - in an independent Scotland might be helpful. Articles such as this abound: https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1555949/State-Pension-triple-lock-scrapped-State-Pension-age-pensioners-retirement-income

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    3. Agree WT with a lot of that post. However, I believe there should be a reasonable time limit before immigrants get a vote on Scottish independence. A minimum of 5 years residence. Or the Scottish Government introduce a Scottish citizenship ( no chance of that happening under Sturgeon).

      A friend was counting the percentage of English people on the Scotlands Best Home TV programme and tells me the home owner's were 75% English. Possibly people selling up in England and buying top notch houses in Scotland due to the price differential.

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    4. Totally agree there has to be a residency period to qualify to vote. If we don't go for independence soon I fear we will have missed our chance.

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    5. Any sort of proposal for a 'blood and soil' franchise is a dead end for the independence movement. It's morally wrong, it's anti-democratic and it's strategically catastrophic.

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    6. The (say 5 years) residency requirement is an interesting one but probably not actually very practicable. It’s hard enough getting some folk to register to vote but imagine them having to also supply proof of residency from 5 years ago. Then someone’s going to have to approve the validity of such evidence etc etc. If there’s a way of disenfranchising the electorate this is probably it.

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  3. The WGD numpty Bathtub Admiral formerly known as Indyref2yespleasenicola has outed himself as a union flag shagger neatly just in time for the f*****g j*****e. Must be all those warships he idolises flying the Union Jack that has developed his love for the Union.

    WGD - what a site - published by a charlatan and a grifter - and unionists and complete numpties btl.

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