If the lunatic new rules for Labour's leadership contest have been explained correctly, there are only two very narrow categories of people who will not be eligible to pay £25 and vote in the election -
1) People who have already paid to become full members of the Labour party over the last few months.
2) Members of other parties.
That's it. In theory, there is absolutely nothing to stop millions upon millions of Tory and UKIP voters from paying £25 and voting for Angela Eagle (unless they've left a trail of evidence of their political views on social media), and yet more than 100,000 full Labour members will be totally banned from taking part. It's very, very hard not to read this as a method of flushing out the people keenest on voting for Corbyn by fraudulently telling them that paying up and joining the party will make them eligible to vote - and then slapping a ban on them instead. Many of those people will have been £3 registered supporters from last year's contest who were warned that they would need to become full members to be sure of taking part again - and having taken that advice, they now find that they still can't vote, and are practically the only people in the UK not eligible to become a registered supporter this time around. 'Cynical' doesn't even begin to cover this stunt - it would have made Stalin blush.
The only consolation is that anyone who took the advice of the Murdoch press and joined Labour recently to vote against Corbyn will also be banned from participating - but by all accounts they are only a small minority of the new members.
In spite of the laughably blatant gerrymandering, Corbyn should still be the favourite to win. A closed shop based on the membership in February ought to favour someone who had a clear lead even among full members in the election last September. The recent YouGov poll gave him a 10% lead over Eagle among members - and remember that the fieldwork was conducted when all the momentum seemed to be against him. The mood music has got considerably better tonight.
And it's perfectly possible that the plotters may eventually look back on what happened today and conclude that they shot themselves in the foot. Any victory for Eagle is now going to be of questionable legitimacy - but if Corbyn wins, they'll have to live with the humiliation of knowing that they couldn't even win with the help of a crooked franchise.
No, I think members who missed the cutoff can pay the 25 quid to get to vote.
ReplyDeleteSeveral people who should know their stuff are saying that the opposite is true. At the very least, it's another point of ambiguity that will have to be cleared up.
DeleteThe fash lefties need to start up their own party instead of leaving their own fash parties and paying three quid to ruin a democratic party.
ReplyDeleteWe are going to have the Tories and their Tartan Tory pals in power for decades. Fuck we will have knickerless Imelda shoes in power until she snuffs it.
The above poster is a right-wing English troll.
DeleteWhat a Gutless Baffoon this clown is. Its politics are doing well with about 1% of the vote. Hey Glasgow Working Arsehole Hell will freeze over before your loonies ever get in.
DeleteWhat a Gutless Baffoon this clown is. Its politics are doing well with about 1% of the vote. Hey Glasgow Working Arsehole Hell will freeze over before your loonies ever get in.
DeleteAngela Eagle is going to get her arse handed to her on a plate. I'm absolutely loving this! These careerist tossers have exactly the same smug, "entitlement" mindset as Ian Davidson, Jim Murphy, Douglas Alexander, Margaret Curran, and the rest of the SLAB MP's who were unceremoniously defenestrated in 2015, and I hope they suffer the same fate. He'll mend them!
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I'm not sure "smug" is the word I'd use. The Labour rebels are becoming accustomed to the taste of defeat and humiliation in a way Murphy, Alexander and co never were until they were smashed in a rout they didn't see coming.
DeletePlease help me mummy they think I am an arse
ReplyDeleteWe KNOW you are an arse.
DeleteWe! so there is more than one Edith smelly fanny?
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DeleteKuenssberg is tweeting that the *Labour Party itself* plans to challenge the NEC ruling on Corbyn's eligibility in the courts. You really couldn't make it up. It is utterly, utterly extraordinary.
ReplyDeleteIn the hustings to come, people need to continually ask Angela Eagle if she'd be willing to serve in a Corbyn shadow cabinet. When she says no, they should just remove the whip. Then do the same to every MP who says the same.
is what the nec did illegal? the 130k new members signed up on the condition of a vote? miss selling?
ReplyDeleteJoke Nat si leadership pretending to their idiot camp followers they can do a seperate deal with the fash EU.
ReplyDeleteWow. Folks, you can almost hear the chunks of crayon pinging off 23's screen...
DeleteHi Nadine. You're up late again, my lovely. Any Chablis left? Don't start on the gin. You know how depressed it makes you.
DeleteNo, its Mundellino and RuthieCult* who are pretending Scotland can get a "different deal".
DeleteIf you lived in Scotland, you would know this.
And in the midst of all this infighting of course, the Chilcott report is forgotten and the war criminals escape their fate. Cynicism knows no bounds amongst our political elite. Time Scotland was independent.
ReplyDeleteAm I the only person that noticed Labour on 15% in the Scottish subsample of the ICM poll. Yes I know it's only 184 persons, but still!
ReplyDeleteNo matter who wins. No matter who claims a "mandate". This will be a Pyric victory in spades.
ReplyDeleteI cannot see Labour remaining intact.
One half with most MPs and no funding.
The other half with lots of members and money, but whose media coverage verges on poisonous claptrap( this especially applies to the BBC in London).
The Tories and Lib Dumbs cannot believe their luck!
More so UKIP, her Majesty's official opposition in 2020!
DeleteStrange to have an internal election and ban the membership from having meetings to discuss the same election.
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ReplyDeleteIf you don't like them,I have others.
All part of the anti democratic top down English political establishment culture.
Wouldn't be surprised,if Scotland decides to leave them to their own resources,that they disband parliament and revert to openly monarchic rule (saves all this voting malarky).
Pathetic from the so called People's party.
They have completely lost the plot.
Kezia lacks experience, gumption and leadership skills.
DeleteShe will probably ask advice from the ludicrous Lord Baron Foulkes and Co.
DOOMED!
The people who most need the help of what the the Labour party is supposed to be and are likely to want to support Corbyn are not likely to have a spare £25 lying around.
ReplyDeleteThatcher would be proud her vile poll tax idea lives on.
On a separate issue, I am a member (and elected shop steward) of Unite.
Unite is affiliated to the Labour party, ergo I am a paid up member of the Labour movement.
At the time of the Corbyn election I was asked by organisers from Unite to pay the £3 to become a supporter and have a vote.
I pointed out that I was a member of the SNP.
After consultation the supervisor of the organising team advised me that I would not be eligible to vote, because I did not "support the values of the Labour party".
This surprised me because from what I have observed since the 90s, precious few Labour MPs support those values.
So there I was, a socialist and paid up member of the Labour movement, political levy and all, and I was denied a vote.
Since that date I have stopped paying the political levy and advised members to do the same.
If Corbyn is removed from the leadership I will be actively campaigning for Unite to disaffiliate from the Labour party.
So, farewell then
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I always said you were an incompetent fop,
And so you were
Also, Oink!
LOL
Miriam Brett @MiriamBrett · 2h
ReplyDeleteWhen David Cameron arrived in office, 61,468 people relied on foodbanks. Today, as he prepares to leave, that figure sits at 1,109,309.
Krishnan Guru-MurthyVerified account @krishgm
ReplyDeleteThe Conservatives have started offering refunds to people who joined the party after referendum thinking they'd have a say in leadership
Government proposes inquiry into moving to a 'pay NHS'
ReplyDeleteLast week the government quietly announced a review into the biggest political hot potato of all - and almost no-one noticed.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/ournhs/richard-grimes/government-moves-to-consider-nhs-user-charges
That's going well.
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The incompetent fop is actually bringing up THE VOW.
ReplyDeleteHe seriously doesn't have a clue just how badly that preposterous lie has gone down in Scotland.
Says it all.
Totally out of touch to the end.
Éoin @LabourEoin · 14m
ReplyDeleteHoly Fuck. Labour HQ has just banned *all* Local Labour Constituency Groups from meeting
It'll be to stop them deselecting the Blairites.
DeleteI don't know if this is surreal or just sickening. From the foundation of the Labour Party until it finally achieved full, unfettered power in 1945, it took two complete generations of men and woman with no thought of personal career advancement, toiling in obscurity, knocking on doors, passing out leaflets and holding public meetings before real, substantive change about. The trash which sits on the PLP benches today have no concept of that kind of service, and that's why they have no conscience about this kind of political "fixing". They're in it for career, and they don't give a curse about anything except office. Not even power matters to them because that brings responsibility. With office, however, come mercs and perks and foreign travel and all those lucrative directorship and consultancies. Thinking about it, I think the answer to my own question is "sickening". Perhaps "disgusting".
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ReplyDeleteAye , and the Branch office MSP's are no different. They believe in nothing and will say anything that they think will keep them in a job.
ReplyDeleteA bold move by May to make the new tory government a complete laughing stock so soon after the Cameroon hypershambles.
ReplyDeleteI mean, they surely can't have their heads stuck so far up their arses inside the westminster bubble that they can't see the clear reaction from the public to May's 'reshuffle' is one of hilarity and utter incredulity.
Bodes well for the all new Nasty party, doesn't it? ;o)
Laura Schneider @alauraschneider ·52 minutes ago
ReplyDeleteGerman TV news presenters can't help laughing as they announce #BorisJohnson as Britain's new Foreign Minister.
The joke Nat si leadership are probably more Stalinist than Stalin. At least the Russians did have dissenters who went to the Gulag . Not one honest Nat si dissenter and no Gulag. Real shite bags.
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DeleteNat si watchkeeper on duty again. You fash mob have lost so get it right up ye. Do weep and fondle yer thingy parsnip if it consoles ye.
DeleteGordon Maloney @gordonmaloney · 48m48 minutes ago
ReplyDeleteThe Tories, 2014: "Vote No, protect our international standing."
The Tories, 2016: make Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary
Sunny Hundal @sunny_hundal · 3 hours ago
ReplyDeleteJust in from a friend who was at FCO: "Boris fucking Johnson in Beirut dealing with Syria? I can't even deal with this lunacy."
Faisal Islam @faisalislam · 2 hours ago
ReplyDeleteWherein, less than a fortnight ago, the new PM, ridicules the negotiating ability of her new Foreign Secretary
PeatWorrier @PeatWorrier · 3 hours ago
Fun times, again, for all those Scottish Tories who privately briefed the media that Boris Johnson was an odious union-bursting grotesque.
Paul Kavanagh@weegingerdug
Philip Hammond is new chancellor, the man who warned Scotland if we were independent we'd be defenceless against attacks from outer space
Craig Smith @Smicht · 3 hours ago
The transformation of UK politics into a real-life Carry On film is almost complete.
If the French people get a vote then the EU corruption will end soon. And Scotland will not be crawling.
DeleteI'm going to keep insulting you Jock Nat Sis until you know your place and get back in your stinking box.
ReplyDeleteFaisal Islam @faisalislam · 2 hours ago
ReplyDeleteWherein, less than a fortnight ago, the new PM, ridicules the negotiating ability of her new Foreign Secretary
PeatWorrier @PeatWorrier · 3 hours ago
Fun times, again, for all those Scottish Tories who privately briefed the media that Boris Johnson was an odious union-bursting grotesque.
Paul Kavanagh@weegingerdug
Philip Hammond is new chancellor, the man who warned Scotland if we were independent we'd be defenceless against attacks from outer space
Craig Smith @Smicht · 3 hours ago
The transformation of UK politics into a real-life Carry On film is almost complete.
Commissar Del @Farseer_Del · 1h
Yeah, you say that, but you'll probably finish the first page of a redraft and come back to find Noel Edmonds has become king
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Our emissary to the world: Boris Johnson left Foreign Office to mop-up after Iraq trip, emails reveal
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I guess she forgot about when Boris described Obama as a part-Kenyan who disliked the UK. The special relationship just took another knock.
Ed Saunt
@edsaunt · 4h
Boris Johnson will deal with a US President whom he called a 'sadistic nurse' (Hillary) or described as 'stupefyingly ignorant' (Trump) #
Look you fash Nat sis you lost the Scottish referendum and you lost in an all UK referendum. Someone do tell knickerless to stop grovelling to Bruxelles and Kaiser Merkel it is as embarrasing as Chamberlain.
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DeleteTom London @TomLondon6 15 hours ago
ReplyDeleteCameron worst PM since Chamberlain (and quite possibly longer than that)
A nasty, shallow chancer who has trashed so much that is good in UK
Kate Connolly @connollyberlin 4 hours ago
ReplyDeleteAfghan taxi driver in Frankfurt bursts out laughing when I tell him I'm British. "Your country's pretty f****d up, isn't it?!"
Ricky GervaisVerified account @rickygervais 17 hours ago
ReplyDeletePhew!
Just when Britain was starting to become a laughing stock around the world,
Boris Johnson is appointed foreign secretary.
Liam StackVerified account @liamstack 4 hours ago
ReplyDeleteBBC: US State Dept spokesman reacted to Boris Johnson's new job as foreign minister by stifling a laugh
Well they need to laugh since losing to Vietnam.
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