The result of the Commons vote on the anti-Sunday trading amendment...
Ayes (against extended Sunday trading) : 317
Noes (in favour of extended Sunday trading) : 286
Although the SNP have effectively forced several U-turns on flagship Tory policies since last year's general election, this is the first time the SNP and Labour have successfully combined to inflict a major defeat on the government on the floor of the House of Commons. It's bound to cause a bit of a re-evaluation of the idea that the Tories' narrow majority win in the general election headed off the unspeakable horrors of the SNP having some influence over English affairs in this glorious "United" Kingdom of ours.
Explanatory note : As a fond tribute to the mainstream media's restrained take on the GERS report, Scot Goes Pop headlines will contain 50% added hysteria for an indefinite period.
So what next will the Nat sis move to stop Sunday slavery in Scotland. This will be a bonus for the Tories at the next general election the English being denied parity with Scotland. And since when did the Nat sis like their Tory sister party even give a shoite about the workers and their conditions!
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DeleteOh for goodness sake, are you still here you dreary little troll? You really need to get out more.
DeleteGlasgow Working Class 2 is brilliantly witty. Not only does she mention "Nat sis" once; she does it twice. Not that's not only witty; that's fabulously hilarious. My sides were splitting. She should have hear own TV show.
DeleteYou never think of the Twitterers! Bloody HUGE headlines!
ReplyDeleteWell done the SNP Group at Westminster. Defending workers rights.
ReplyDeleteWhich workers and can you name any trade union that has negoitated Sunday premium payments and who the employer is?
DeleteThe real fact is is that some Tory religious freaks the Nat sis and Labour have denied equal rights to the English. The bill will be passed eventually.
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DeleteThe zoonie Looney cannot get into his fascist mental head that there will not be any relaxation on Sunday training. The workers of E & W can thank the SNP for that.
DeleteSo you are unable to answer my questions. Typical Nat si only verbal keech and no sustance. Local Authority and Gov Workers get premium payments along with NJIC workers. The Nat sis have not negoitated pay for shop workers.
DeleteOh dear. The Yoonatic has left George Square.
DeleteALL retail staff in large retail outlets in Scotland get enhanced wages---and have done for decades.
You would know that if you had ANY connection with Scotland.
Rubbish present your evidence. The weekly salary is reduced to cover enhanced payments. Incidentally do bus drivers get enhanced weekend payments?
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DeleteHow's the bowler hat and yoon marching band.
DeleteFlute bowler hat yoon alert honk honk.
Steaming britnats in Westminster and the media going crazy over SNP voting. Great fun. More please.
ReplyDeleteIt is brilliant to see them seething. Time for Scottish votes for Scottish Westminster Bills then.
DeleteGiven we're supposed to have EVEL wouldn't it have been the Speakers decision to deem the debate a British and not soley an English Parliamentary debate, and if so why is everybody moaning about the SNP when it was rebellious Tories who caused their own party the embarrassment
ReplyDeleteThe SNP did what they were sent there to do in the UK parliament and that is represent their constituents and vote on any issue which may have a bearing on Scotland
Or have the Yoons just decided it was all a big mistake and we just don't want SNP MPs at all in our English Parliament Labour ones used to be fine coz they did what they were told but this SNP lot actually want to stand up for Scotland and we can't have that
I find the opposition to removing Sunday Trading restrictions pretty baffling in all honesty. We all know that we've been able to shop more freely on a Sunday in Scotland for years and it hasn't turned workers into slaves or destroyed the traditions of Scottish society. It seems to be an issue that only exists for political posturing (Labour trying to show how left-wing they are, some Tories trying to throw a bone to the loony religious crowd, the SNP acting like political opportunists).
ReplyDeleteCertainly if the SNP had any intention of bringing Sunday trading restrictions back to Scotland I'd find that absolutely bonkers, but of course they don't and just saw an opportunity to stir the pot.
No.
DeleteThey were advised by USDAW the shopworkers Union, that approx one third of shopworkers in Scotland would probably lose their Sunday supplemented-pay, if the Tories had succeeded in pushing through this legislation UK-wide.
There was no obligation in the Tory legislation, to maintain the Sunday extra payments to these workers who are some of the lowest wage-earners.
The SNP did the right thing, along with Labour and the rest - including the Tory rebels.
You're operating from the principle that I haven't heard this line 30 times already today. I understand completely what the SNP have said to justify their actions. If you want to believe it was some noble act to protect Scottish workers and had nothing at all to do with it being an open goal to stir the pot in Westminster then go ahead.
DeleteWhat I genuinely don't understand is why anyone would defend Sunday trading restrictions on principle rather than, say, arguing for extra wages for those who work on Sundays. As a protection of workers' rights they're woefully insufficient.
David ye auld muppet history will record that the Nat sis achieved what the Luftwaffe did not, they closed the English shops early. What a momentous achievement. This must be the funniest moment in parliamentary history and achieved with the help of Labour and the Nat si tossers. My party have decended into the same stupidity as the Nat sis.
DeleteHow did your hero Adolph treat the Workers and Trade Unionists during his time in power?
DeleteEm, they are in opposition. Thy opposed. Be a good idea if everyone else in opposition opposed.
DeleteThey best way to annoy the government is to frustrate them at every turn. They are no friend of our country.
Typical Nat si deviation when lost in space for facts and argument. Since when did you Nat sis ever have any association with trade unions or workers.
DeleteI am sure Mr Mason will be pleased you have crawled into the gutter with the Tory religious mob.
Jason,
DeleteThe SNP said that they would reconsider their position on voting against this, if the Tory Govt inserted a clause into the legislation which guaranteed that the existing extra Sunday wage up here was protected.
They, obviously, have nothing against Sunday trading, as we already have it up here.
Their position was pragmatic and designed to protect the existing conditions for some of Scotland's lowest-paid workers.
The Tory Govt were completely intransigent in that regard - and suffered the consequences.
GWC - Your Party - the Tories - lost.
You are no more Labour, than I am, pal.
Honk honk bowler hat flute, yoon marching band alert!
DeleteMaybe the speaker can decide what is 'Scotland only' legislation too?
ReplyDeleteYou know, things like the Scotland Bill?
In that case, only Scots MPs vote on it.
ANY thing which the SNP do which upsets the unionists must only be viewed as being the right thing to do for Scotland!
ReplyDeleteAbout time the unionists recognised what a TRULY Scottish party is capable of! (Instead of the Scots politicians being mere carpetbaggers for the last 300 years!!
Nigel whit has unionist goat tae dae wie shop opening. You Nat sis need tae get yer heid oot of yer erses
DeleteBecause dimwit Employment law rests with Westminster. You would scrap all trade union and workers rights just as your friend Adolph did in the 1930's.
DeleteWe have trade unions which you Nat sis detest to negotiate wages and conditions.
DeleteThe Nat si Gov can stop O hr contracts in the Scottish public sector but seem very reluctant.
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DeleteI agree, Nigel. It's great to see Westminster britnats getting a dose of their own medicine. This fracturing, so-called united kingdom has just been fractured a wee bit more.
Delete"As a fond tribute to the mainstream media's restrained take on the GERS report, Scot Goes Pop headlines will contain 50% added hysteria for an indefinite period."
ReplyDeleteOut of interest, how would you have reported the GERS figures? These are the relevant numbers:
In 2011-12, we generated 9.6% of UK revenue, including a geographic share of the North Sea, and spent 9.3% of UK spending. This was the report used to make most of the SNP's arguments during the referendum.
In 2012-13, we generated only 8.9% of UK revenue, including the North Sea, and spent 9.4% of UK spending.
In 2013-14 the figure had fallen again. Now we only generated 8.6% of UK revenue, including the North Sea, while spending 9.3% of UK spending.
In 2014-15, the report just released, the figures had fallen even further again: 8.2% of UK revenue, including the North Sea, in comparison to 9.3% of UK spending. That means the "cost" of having full fiscal autonomy would be having to either cut our budget by £7.4 billion or raise taxes/borrow to compensate for that gap.
"Hammerblow for Brit Nats as hapless 'Pragmatist' unwittingly annihalates the case for Union"
DeleteDo your figures account for Scotland paying for an extra unneeded parliament / civil service in the form of Westminster, the huge UK offensive military budget, England's debt, major infrastructure projects in England etc?
DeleteIt's just that GERS is includes the costs of being in the UK. they aren't supposed to represent an iScotland's fiscal position.
It would be good if you could remove the costs of being in the UK as a start.
Good to know we produce more tax than the UK per head normally though!
Thanks in advance.
It's not even about "removing the costs of the Union" for me. Ultimately, the cost of Westminster is relatively small beer. However, we already pay for civil servants in some big departments (Home Office, Defence, DWP, FCO) that are predominantly based in London and the south-east. That's "expenditure for Scotland" but it's all spent in the most expensive part of the UK so it's all at "London rates." Except, of course, none of that money is actually spent IN Scotland. By my calculations, just shifting those jobs up here upon our independence would equate to something like 30,000 new jobs (either boosting our population by keeping more talented young Scots in Scotland rather than heading to London where the REAL action is or vastly reducing our social security bills) and an extra billion or so straight into the Scottish economy at ZERO extra cost.
DeleteThe same goes for defence expenditure generally. Since the closures of airbases and the decimation of our navy, there's almost no defence spending IN Scotland other than Trident. Trident, as well as being grossly immoral, is vastly capital intensive and doesn't really require all that many workers to run it. If we got rid of Trident upon independence, we could spend a billion less on defence than we do now but have a billion extra actually spent IN Scotland.
So by my reckoning, there's an easy three billion pound indy dividend. The amount we're spending actually goes down by a billion, but money IN the Scottish economy goes up by TWO billion.
Certainly there are certain economies of scale that are a union dividend, but I'm still inclined to think that overall, indy would be a net benefit for Scotland simply by its happening. We'd no longer be paying for driver licencing in Wales. It would be happening somewhere up here. Ditto every other government agency. Start factoring in things like what would happen if we could invest our share of the "National" Theatre, Ballet, Opera and so on in Scottish National arts organisations and the maths gets trickier, but the cumulative effect could be staggering once you added it all up.
Always remember, money spent FOR Scotland is often not spent IN Scotland. That flatters the rUK figures and artificially impoverishes Scotland by inserting a big chunk of Scotland's tax receipts into England's GDP while virtually all the "subsidy" that comes north is borrowed anyway.
SS: These aren't my figures, all I've done in reality is copy and paste the figures from the first couple of pages in the GERS report for ease of reference. I suggest that it would be useful if everyone reads the report whether they agree with independence or not. I know the figures are inconvenient and some people are itching for a quick way to brush them under the carpet (I expect I'll be tarred and feathered as a troll by James at any moment) but this is an important issue and I think you'd accept, if you're honest about it, that the case for independence is weaker now than it was when we had the 2011-12 figures. I find it a bit odd that anyone could look at those figures and not accept that to be the case, but political loyalties seem to have a strange effect on the human brain.
DeleteAnd that's really the point. We can all engage in the "we wouldn't have to pay for that if we were independent" defence. We've always been able to do that. The typical case used to be to cite defence spending - the SNP's plan was to spend £1 billion less on defence spending per year. That's no longer sufficient to bridge the gap because it still leaves a hole of £6.4 billion (and this is only partly after the oil price drop, next year's report is expected to be closer to a £9 billion gap). We're still left with billions of pounds of cuts needed to reach the same deficit we have now as part of the UK and it's just disingenuous to try and claim we can easily achieve that by cutting policies imposed on us by the rest of the UK.
At the very least you should be able to account for the fact that the figures are now much worse than they were in 2011-12. Our revenue has fallen from 9.6% of the UK total to 8.2% in the space of a few years. Do you honestly not find that relevant? It's an honest question.
Well you ignored everything I said. But still, what on earth makes Scotland such a unique basket case? You know the drill - temperate climate and strategically important location, geopolitically stablr region, huge soft power for a small country, more elite universities per capita than any other country in the world, several uniquely Scottish, high value exports wanted all over the globe, enormous resources on land, at sea and under both...what makes Scotland (by these figures and Haguesque graphs) the poorest country in all of Europe? Seriously. We voted No. Carping about the crisis of independence is meaningless. How about explaining why the Union has made Scotland such a desperately hopeless economy?
DeleteKenny: We go through these arguments every year. If GERS shows Scotland is generating more revenue (proportionately) than we spend within the UK, the argument is "Scotland is subsidising the rest of the UK and should be independent". If GERS shows we're generating less revenue than we spend within the UK the argument simply flips in the opposite direction and we claim it's proof "Scotland is a basket case within the UK and can only realise its potential if it's independent". There is literally no conclusion that can lead to you not supporting independence if you're that way inclined - I know that fine well, we've been arguing about it for years now, you really don't need to come out with the same soundbite again.
DeleteAnd every year we're obliged to state that the point is not, and has never been, that Scotland is a basket case. We'll point out that Scotland generates a perfectly acceptable level of revenue within the UK (it's actually more or less bang on with where it should be on a per capita basis now, slightly above if you include the North Sea). We'll say that the point is entirely about spending - Scotland is a large, relatively sparsely populated country in a geographic sense and public services are therefore more expensive if you go it alone than they are if you even it out across the UK. That isn't a sign we're a basket case, it's a sign that we're in a union which apportions spending in a broadly fair way - Scotland gets more spending because the particularities of our country merit it.
But that isn't even the point being made here. I've been through this routine enough times to know that trying to get a diehard independence supporter to change their views on the basis of GERS is impossible. The figures could show we generate 1% of UK revenue and a certain percentage of the public still wouldn't care. I get that.
What I'm aiming for this year is a basic acknowledgement that the case is, in fact, weaker this year than it has been in previous years. I'm mystified as to how anyone can look at the figures pasted above and come to the conclusion that the case is just as strong now as it's ever been. If we'd been independent in 2011-12 it would have implied us gaining spending from the deal. Now it would imply us losing £7.4 billion over night. Do you have the capacity to acknowledge that point for what it is?
As an american, I'll take a stab. 1) given your msm parameters, you are correct in that the case for independence from a fiscal point of view is somewhat worse. 2) you are correct that for many people that is irrelevant. It should be noted however that the msm point of view dismisses the non fiscal as irrelevant. Many would argue that the poor showing of Scotland 3rd: gers is a DIRECT RESULT of Scotland not having control. 3) the idea that arguing the deficiency of government or quasi government or commision reports has been fair game for some time. Isn't the whole brexit/ EU issue the same. Conservatives/ Brit bats/ financial conservatives/ Tories type people don't trust the big bad eu that they don't control. Why should anyone be surprised that the people of Scotland or visitors to this site should have the same concerns.
DeleteThanks for the nifty post.
I echo a lot of what Bill has said. Personally, I think that any way you slice it, the economic case for independence is strong. The swings in the oil price are the main difference in whether Scotland over- or under-performs as part of the UK. A Scottish government would have a much closer eye on that key industry than the UK, for whom it is a nice bonus but not a key industry (except for the export dollars.) Almost inevitably, Scotland would steward that resource more carefully and would be much more responsive in times of need. After all, weren't we told that we needed the UK's broad shoulders to protect us against this unexpected slump in the price? How many jobs have been saved in Aberdeen by those broad shoulders?
DeleteAt the same time, you've not addressed the points I made. You can call it "subsidy" if you want - I wouldn't - but the fact is that Scotland gets a lot of money spent on its behalf in London and around other parts of the UK. In fact, it's really quite a lot more. After all, London has all those "national" museum and galleries and important people and big businesses. Why piss money away on the remote backwaters with the funny accents, especially now that everyone up there hates the English so much? If all that money were spent IN Scotland on Scottish civil servants and Scottish national bodies (instead of Scotland having to pay for both its nationhoods) then there would be tens of thousands more jobs in Scotland and no doubt a much livelier culture. For another example, see the BBC spend £25-30m every year for FA Cup coverage because it's a "national" event (plus another £60m+ on Premiership highlights) while BBC SCotland's ENTIRE sports budget is just £4m. You could stave off a dozen Armageddons if the balance tipped back our way (and maybe do something to stimulate football and other sports in Scotland.)
Finally, you note that independence supporters will twist the argument any way they like to say that the numbers support independence. Maybe true. But since you're a pragmatist, can you describe for us the circumstances under which you'd say the economic case for independence was excellent and vote Yes?
Cawin it noo - GWC 2's a bloody parody acoont ran by nane ither thin auld James himsel!
ReplyDeleteCare in the community is available. You only have to ask.
DeleteSomeone needs to stop the Glasgow working classes breeding!
ReplyDeleteI agree that is why the pubs and shoaps need tae stay open longer. If ye put hair oan a table leg a Glesga men will shag it.
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DeleteLooks like Sconie Boatland wid be pink lint if we had voted fur ra Nat sis. The ile is worth nuffin. The Nat sis wid have hid tae tax the rich tae keep public services going.
ReplyDeleteAnd the Nat si MP'S are stoapin the English fae goin tae ra shoaps oan a Sunday. Monumetal historical decision taken by the Nat sis in the Red Lion Pub Whitehall.
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DeleteHonk honk yoon alert, flute, bowler hat, marching band, honk honk!
DeleteHere come the Scotland haters who couldn't or cant contain their glee at the GERS figures. Or as some wit on another site called them - propaganda porn for Yoons!
ReplyDeleteI think I can live with the SNP delivering a Glesga kiss to the English Tories. They should do it more often. Maybe stick the boot in as well when they have them on the deck. They might get so thoroughly sick of us Sweaties that they will vote for their ane Indy. We can but hope!
If you Nat sis attempted to live with reality then you never know what could happen. You may even get to believe your own lies and fantasy.
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Hardly a "harrowing event for the British establishment" - made possible, as it was, by the support of a large number of conservative members of parliament.
ReplyDeleteBesides, any English people feeling hard done by have a lot to be cheerful about. The Trident vote is coming soon...
Aldo
More fracturing of this so-called united kingdom. Great to see.
DeleteThe United Kingdom is absolutely safe - didn't you see the GERS figures? Ha ha! Catastrophic! :0)
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I'm not really getting the importance of stopping people going to shops on a Sunday. It all stems from an old religious myth that hardly anyone believes in anymore - and certainly not someone like Jeremy Corbyn.
ReplyDeleteAs a libertarian, I believe in letting people do what they want, within reason. Too bad the forces of authoritarianism and mischief making have united to prevent the expansion of freedom for around 90% of the people in our nation.
Never mind - after 2020 there will be so many tory MPs, 100 could rebel and get nowhere.
Aldo
That'll be England's problem - not Scotland's.
DeleteDeluded.
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ReplyDeleteThe SNP have new legislation plans for the 'Living Wage' to protect private sector workers as much as the limited devolved powers will allow.
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/S4_MembersBills/Living_Wage_Consultation_Final.pdf
It was Scottish Labour who, along with the Tories & Libdems, opposed employment law being devolved to Scotland in the Smith Commission. Labour MPs also voted with the Tories against 90 plus SNP amendments to the Scotland Bill, which would have given Holyrood full powers over employment law and thus fully protect private sector workers' wages in Scotland.
The fact that the SNP cannot protect private sector workers in Scotland, is due to the Labour party and Tory parties, shoulder to shoulder, voting against all Scotland Bill amendments last year at Westminster. As usual, Labour put party interest before workers' interest.
The STUC were, like the SNP, in favour of employment law being devolved to Holyrood, in its submission to the Smith Commission (see below) but Labour ignored both the SNP & the STUC, as it totally betrayed Scottish workers. That was why Labour lost all but one MP in the General Election in 2015.
As you demand evidence here is the STUC submission to Smith Commission:
http://www.stuc.org.uk/files/Smith%20Commission%202014/STUC%20submission%20to%20Smith%20Commission.pdf
First of all I did not demand. And having powers is different from using them. The Nat si Gov would not dictate to private employers. And what would this living wage amount to. Do you have a figure ? And if an employer could not afford the cost do you close them down or just let them fold or does the taxpayer make a subsidy.It was the progressive Wilson government that changed the face of employment law and womens rights. It was the Blair government that introduced the minimum wage.
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DeleteHonk honk, yoon alert, bowler hat, flute, marching bank honk honk!
DeleteI think a Brexit would be equally if not more harrowing for the EU subsidy junkie Brit Royals. I wonder how much they have taken the EU for over the decades? They might have to pilfer more from the Brits if there is a Brexit from the EU?
ReplyDeleteI guess I don't believe the Suns headline about he Majestic being in favour of a Brexit, well that or she has gone senile!
Will we see Her Maj. at the gates of Buck.Pal. with a bull horn telling people to "think very carefully" before they vote?
DeletePerhaps not.
What a shame, a wee country with nearly the same population as ours, in the same region, with less natural resources and not dependent on another nation, can do so well and achieve 7.8% economic growth for the whole of 2015 http://www.rte.ie/.../business/2016/0310/773899-cso-economy/
ReplyDeleteYes indeed and the Brits helped bail them out after the crash. And who suffered the most in ROI! All those unfinished housing estates fenced off.
DeleteNow ROI is back on track you are using it as anti Brit propoganda.
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DeleteHa ha, GWC, you fell right into my trap there. Just to remind you, ROI when it was hurting, was used as a stick to bash the idea of independence. Now that it is growing again (and exceptionally so) it can be used as a positive for the independence arguement. You can't have your cake and eat it!
DeleteYour facts are also wrong the UK did not bail out the ROI.
@ScotlandTonight
ReplyDeleteFormer Bank of England Governor Mervyn King: Currency Union "would have been totally feasible."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldwTwxm-DMg
Sure, completely debt free Scotland if that wasn't the case. Most of the debt was spent on the rUK anyway. Adjust GERS for appropriate repayments based on actual UK debt spend in Scotland over the past few decades and it would look a lot nicer.
Anyway, good this is clarified for next time by the (ex)main man.
Skier, why would the Nat sis want the GBP as you want total independence. You wanted the euro previously.
DeleteYou lost the referendum because of uncertainty. You have had years to come up with a currency and an economic plan and still today absolutely no plans. If you were honest you should really state that the euro would be Scotlands salvation if we split from the Union.
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DeleteHonk honk yoon alert, flute, bowler hat, marching band, honk honk!
DeleteGreat blog James but my head's busting with the Glasgow Working Class crew-I don't know who's who or what's what anymore.
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Great blog James but my head's busting with the Glasgow Working Class crew-I don't know who's who or what's what anymore.
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James knows who the real Glasgow Working Class is however the ohers do not have the bottle to use their own non de plume. And more so for them is they have no political points or argument they are fundamentalist Nat sis.
DeleteHaving read the drivel you post here, neither do you.
DeleteIt is my drivel so you should name yourself when you post your drivel.
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DeleteFar be it for me to point out that , tesco, morrisons ,b&q ,next sainsburys,argos to name but have already removed or seriously cut back sunday working premiums in scotland so who exactly was being protected by the vote against additional sunday working
ReplyDeleteSince post bus privatisation the workers were put on a flat rate for weekend work and overtime. The Nat sis take donations from main bus operators and refuse to re nationalise. You have to take into account that the Tories privatised the buses and their pals made a fortune.
DeleteThe Nat sis seem to do a good PR about having sympathy for the working class but it a farce. It will eventually be exposed.
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DeleteAnother sad Nat sis above at 10 March, 11.25pm pretending and not engaging.
DeleteGet a life excuse for a knobend.
John Swinney was appalling on Question Time. His Tartan Tory policies prelevant.
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DeleteHit a sore spot did I, wis it calling you a zombietron?
DeleteHonk honk zombie alert!
Honk honk flute, marching band bowler hat, orange sash, honk honk. Zombie alert!
Tonight was enough inspiration for both votes SNP.
ReplyDeleteDinnae worry though. A few plants cheering in a place that 60% voted yes in, is most certainly not, representative of Dundee or Scotland.
That first week in May will be, and get out and vote. I'm not going to tell you who to vote with your second one, but Green, SNP, RISE - follow your heart, but I'll tell you what those Yoons are going to get another hammering at the ballot box then.
Well Kevin you give your brain some peace and bash yer meat son. Maybe the relief will calm you down and vote Labour thrice.
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DeleteHonk honk zombie yoon alert,honk honk!
DeleteKEVIN
DeleteI gave up predicting how well the Conservatives would do in whatever the next election was for the simple reasons that A) they never did well anyway and B) I was hopelessly optimistic with my my predictions.
Perhaps you are falling into the same trap as me with your prediction that the Yoons, as you quaintly call them, will take a hammering in May.
It's become an automatic reaction to not read anything by GWC
ReplyDeleteWhat is so special about a Sunday? Maybe we have a lot of christian loons on here!
ReplyDeleteMaybe we should stand down firemen, nurses, doctors and the polis on a Sunday.
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DeleteAs I’ve said before the bbc has given up trying to be balanced in its attitude towards Scotland’s politics. Like britnat newspapers its paramount purpose now is to concentrate on fellow britnats by feeding them with more and more too-wee-too-poor-too-stupid propaganda.
ReplyDeleteDon’t pay the licence tax.
Yeh you Nat sis would love to control the media. The SSG, Sturgeon, Salmond and Goebells chanel.
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