Wednesday, July 23, 2025

Stop giving "release 23 Israeli hostages" parity of esteem with "the genocide must end"

The fabled international community, including even Ursula von der Leyen, Kaja Kallas and David Lammy, seem to have finally reached the point of "twenty-one months of genocide were fine, but we draw the line at twenty-two", and yet they still can't bring themselves to just directly demand that Israel stop what they're doing without the "Hamas must release all hostages" qualification.  This was Lammy trotting out the standard formulation a couple of days ago - 

"We need an immediate ceasefire now, the release of all hostages and a surge in aid."

It would of course be a good thing if the remaining hostages were freed, but insisting on always giving that objective joint top billing is highly problematical in a number of ways - 

* It sounds very much like a condition or a prerequisite for a ceasefire, ie. Israel can say "you were only calling on us to stop mass-killing people if Hamas released the hostages, and they haven't, so we're good to continue".

* The subtext feeds into the narrative of "this all started on 7th October", thus giving some succour to the idea that Israel's genocide was semi-justified in response to the Hamas attacks.  Why not add in a further clause to make it "We need an immediate ceasefire now, the release of all hostages, an end to the illegal Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories, and a surge in aid"?  Lammy would probably say that the end of the occupation is a completely separate issue - in other words he doesn't want to admit that the problem can be directly traced back to 1967 (and ultimately to 1948), rather than to October 2023. 

* It effectively accords far less proportionate worth to each Palestinian slaughtered than it does to each Israeli hostage.  There are thought to be around 23 remaining hostages, compared to at least tens of thousands of Palestinian dead (and it would be a brave person who doubts that the true death toll is way, way over 100,000).  To give parity of esteem to those two issues seems almost obscene.  It used to be said that one Israeli life was deemed to have the same worth as 1000 Palestinian lives, but now it's even worse than that - simply denying liberty to one Israeli citizen seems to be considered a graver crime than massacring 1000 Palestinian women and children.

* By implication, it denies the hostage status of the Palestinian "administrative detainees" held captive by Israel without charge, and it certainly accords less urgency to their freedom than it does to the far smaller number of Israelis still held by Hamas.  "Only Israelis can be hostages, Palestinians can only be prisoners or detainees."

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24 comments:

  1. Excellent ! Hopefully the murderous Israeli state has finally pushed it's, shamefully over tolerant, international supporters too far at last.

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  2. Lammy fights an increasingly futile rearguard action to protect the US / UK / Zionist state, Military Industrial Complex. The dugs in the street ken there’s a Genocide occurring in front of our very eyes.
    Ursula von der Layen represents the fascist fatherland first and the EU a very distant second. She protects her fellow German aristocrat, and Zionist propagandist, Katharina von Schnurbein, from the rightful indignation of the majority of EU states.
    Kaja Kallas, the EU’s self styled Foreign Minister (no such position exists, as Kallas’ predecessor Josep Borrell is sick tired of trying to explain) simply luvs ethnosupremacist states. Ukraine, Latvia, and Israel, what’s not to, like?
    Meanwhile the rump of the establishment adjacent commentariat can see the juggernaut of public indignation bearing down on them.
    The front page of the Daily Express this morning was utterly astonishing. A full page picture of a starving infant with the headline “For Pity’s Sake Stop This Now”.
    Last week, Alastair “dodgy dossier” Campbell and former MP, and “Diplomat”, Rory Stewart (who definitely wasn’t an MI6 Officer operating under diplomatic cover), gave full throated condemnation of the Zionist state.
    Even multiple, former heads of MI5 & MI6 are calling out the ridiculously disproportionate proscription of Palestine Action as an attack on civil liberties, and ultimately counterproductive.

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    1. Look, windbag! There's a conspiracy bandwagon you can jump on. You merciless buffoon who hides behind 'Anonymous'. Cowardly and foul.

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    2. PS. Learn how to spell. And what's Latvia got to do with Kaja Kallas? Do enlighten us, o great one.

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  3. Good article James.

    What a sickening sight it was recently seeing and hearing Lammy trying to make out he was a hero who had been helping the Palestinians since Autumn last year. Lammy and all the rest of the them are now worried about what comes next from the murderous Israeli state and whether they will end up before a criminal court for aiding and abetting war crimes or even a genocide. Nothing but a cynical attempt to save their own skin.
    All of them have accepted oodles of cash from Jewish lobby organisations. Westminster is a disgusting sewer and people who voted Labour last year have the blood of children and babies on their hands.

    The IDF even remove baby formula from the suitcases of volunteer doctors going in to Gaza. They want new born babies to die of hunger. That is how evil the IDF is.

    The ongoing talk of an imminent ceasefire is just a cover to allow them to continue to lay waste to Gaza to make it inhabitable. They will then try to herd them all in to a small concentration camp. The Hamas leadership will not agree a ceasefire that allows Netahanyu to kill them after the hostages are freed. The Israeli government have never cared about the hostages. They just want as many Palestinisns dead as they can manage and grab more land.

    It's modern day colonialism. It has been from the start more than a century ago. Way back to the early Zionists and the Balfour Declaration.

    Scotland needs to get away from Westminster as we should not be linked to these abominations but Britnats just don't care. Labour and the Tories are war criminals but you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait to Reform get in to power. Yet numpties btl on SGP think we can just hang around for decades and keep asking for a sec 30 referendum. Reform will probably change the Scotland act to get rid of sec 30. That's assuming they don't get rid of devolution and Holyrood completely. The numpties will cry they can't/won't do that. Westminster, until Scotland is independent, can do anything.
    Remember they are arresting people who want to stop a genocide. Westminster is not and never has been the good guys.

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    1. What’s going on in Gaza is terrible, nobody in this country would say otherwise.
      What a lot of people object to though is Scottish nationalists attempting to make political gain out of it. It’s disgraceful. Just like Nicola Sturgeon’s pathetic grandstanding during Covid.

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    2. KC saying it is terrible does not absolve you of the responsibility and shame of supporting these war crimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide. It's not politics it's basic humanity. Something Westminster and the people like you seem to be able to set aside when it suits you.

      " Nobody in this country would say otherwise" well that's a straightforward lie. KC, you and Westminster are NOT the good guys.

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    3. IFFsy has got something right. The Israeli state and IDF are murdering genocidal scum, as are all who support them in any way. That’s the U K govt and all the unionist parties and all who vote for and support them.

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    4. 3.14pm I very much doubt he needs or welcomes your endorsement.

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    5. The difference between David Francis at 3.14pm and me is that I actually call out anyone " who support them in any way". Just as I called out Swinney for his track record on Gaza e.g. Angus Robertson trying to have secret meetings with an Israeli deputy ambassador and not applying any sanctions on supplies of arms parts to Israel. However, I did commend Yousaf for his approach to the appalling daily murder of Palestinians. I do not let party membership or party politics affect the true reality. Francis is and was silent on this. Not criticising anyone in the SNP is more important to him than children being murdered. So KC is correct about Francis but not me. I have an independent view and I don't care if that means more trolling by SNP ultra trolls like David Francis or shameful Britnats like KC.

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  4. If not for the expulsion of the Jews from Judaea, followed by its colonization by various groups ending with the Ottomans, there would have been far fewer in Germany to be caught in the holocaust. It's all a matter of how far back you look. Today's Palestinians are not responsible for that history, of course, but neither do they nullify it.

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    1. “ neither do they nullify it” what the f does that mean. Is a starving baby supposed to nullify some Jewish history of thousands of years ago. It never takes long in a discussion about today’s children being blown to bits, burnt alive or starved to death for someone to mention the Holocaust as if that justifies today’s war crimes and genocide.

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    2. What the hell does "neither do they nullify it" mean? Do you mean that it's kinda OK to take it out on the Palestinians even though it had nothing to do with them? My ancestors were driven out of Ireland in the 19th century by a man-made famine caused by English/British colonisation - should I take that out on the French or some other random population?

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    3. Some of my ancestors emigrated from Ulster in 1840s (the famine decade) to Lanarkshire. Should I go back and evict the people currently living in my ancestors' cottage? That's basically what the Jewish settlers are doing in the West Bank.

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    4. 3000 year old property deals between imaginary beings should hold up IMO

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  5. If I was Egyptian I would have something to say. Up the pharaohs!

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  6. Hmmm, but our constitutional affairs expert, Professor McSwinney, prefers the zionist approach. If you don't believe me, you could always transmit your query to his foreign affairs research fellow, Dr Angus Genocide.

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  7. Members of the Israeli parliament, brazenly in their parliament, state that mass starvation in Gaza is a government policy. It is needed they say to recruit collaborators who provide information when bribed with food or money to buy food. This is openly admitting to a war crime. Yet Starmer has supported Israel. Remember Starmer said it was ok for Israel to prevent food, water and fuel going in to Gaza.

    Israel is a rogue state where the majority of the population are fine with a government policy of the deliberate starvation of millions of trapped people. Thankfully there is a minority of Israeli citizens who see how wrong their government is. Westminster has supported Netanyahu for nearly two years now.

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  8. Different perceptions of what Israel is are what lies at the root of these horrors. To Zionists God gave the land to their people for all time and the fact that the Romans dispersed them after revolt(s) cannot alter the 'rightness' of divine will.

    To many of us two thousand years does make a difference and Israel is a settler state with a particularly strong ideological view of its own entitlement. If every population in the world saw itself this way then humanity would wipe itself out even more quickly than we already seem to be trying to do.

    Look at the historical record of settler states in general. For them to be stable long term they either have to have very small indigenous populations preceding them, or need to smash those populations, or both.
    For examples, USA and Australia 'succeed' while apartheid South Africa and the North of Ireland fail.

    Netanyahu needs a crushing triumph to protect him from the consequences of his own past. Zionist messianism is useful to his self preservation priorities. The vast crimes of the Nazi holocaust distort Israel's position in the minds of many millions.

    It's a ghastly mess aggravated by recent histories of Islamic terrorism.
    Only a two state solution with much stronger UN enforcement holds out any hope at all for the future.

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    1. As I understand it, the main reason European colonists became dominant in the Americas was the introduction of European diseases that the native population had no immunity to. If it hadn't been for that factor, resistance would have been much stronger.

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    2. True indeed. The process was helped along, more than once, by British/American authorities giving 'treaty presents' to indigenous people in the form of batches of blankets gathered from smallpox hospitals. Different method, same outcome.

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  9. jewish souls are of a far higher quality than that of the goyim coming from the angelic spheres whereas the latter come from the satanic spheres

    and if a goy child will grow up to harm a jew, then the child should be killed

    it's in the talmud

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  10. netanyahu described the palestinians as AMALEK

    which is good enough for me. Just read your bible - John Knox didn't write it for you for no reason

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  11. schizophrenic old man attempts to murder his own son, thinks better of it and then concocts a FANTASTIC TALE to cover his own arse

    - what could possibly go wrong?

    seems 'right

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