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James Kelly used to post a number of first class articles on the coronavirus. It would be interesting to get his take on things at present. Particularly the increasing number of people on the media/internet promoting herd immunity once again.
The more I see Ed Davey the more I can't unsee Norman Gunston . Ed Davey and Willie Rennie the dream team, they apparently do have principles they just seem to be fluid , very fluid .
The Wee Ginger Dug site is now morphing into an SNP whitewashing site with the BTL commentators openly admitting they are in a Nicola Sturgeon fan club. With the lack of self awareness on this site I am sure they will revel in this status.
Grizebard - Alex Clark and Dr Jim both stated they were Sturgeon fan boys. If you don't like the description take it up with them. Personally I would describe most of you as nasty head in the sand characters.
Personally I'd describe you as full of shit, you claim you want something & the only way to achieve that something is by backing the only vehicle that will ever achieve your want, but you spend your time attacking that vehicle & all supporters of that vehicle, I'd describe you as the nasty, twisted heed up your arse little britnat fud that you are
Unknown - sounds like Grizebard. A good day to you too - proving you are indeed a nasty sand in the head character. I attack people who have proved themselves to be very nasty people - bit like you - but they also conspired to put an innocent man in jail for life. I would suggest to you that if this is acceptable to you then you would feel more at home in Westminster with the crooks down there.
It would appear its the people of Scotland that are in the Nicola Sturgeon fan club.I'm in nobody's fan club. The internal SNP stushie you are obsessed with doesn't register with the voter in the street. Name a major political force with no internal tensions. There isn't one, and most activists just want the candidates in place and the election that will put us on the front foot for Indyref2 to get underway. If London tries to get the May elections put off, that would include local elections in England too. There's no easy road ahead for the rogue Union.
Ramstam - "internal stushie" - trying to send the exSNP leader and first SNP FM to jail for the rest of his life - hardly what I would call a stushie. A stushie is in the order of who ate the last pie. It does the SNP and the Yes movement no good to have people who would carry out such despicable actions in control. It says nothing for the standards/morals of people in the SNP/Yes movement who would sweep it under the carpet. In the USA Trump said his voters would vote for him even if he committed murder in broad daylight. Is that where SNP supporters are going? As an SNP member care to tell me who and how Salmond was removed from the SNP history. Or does no one know? This action alone is a disgrace but pales into insignificance when compared to making up false criminal charges to put someone in jail for life.When I vote I vote for Scottish independence I do not vote to be in a Sturgeon fan club just as I didn't vote to be in a Salmond fan club in the past.
"In the USA Trump said his voters would vote for him even if he committed murder in broad daylight. Is that where SNP supporters are going?"Ahhh, NO. I can tell you that after Indy my first move will be to find the most appropriate vehicle to carry Scotland forward. That will not be Labour as was. SNP will have to prove itself all over again.If they can do that fine, but I will not be responding to any rosy glow if that is empty.
You are quite inventive with your stage names.You have selectively and deliberately missed out the important point the FM made regarding the 806 new cases . It includes the back log and delay of test results from the UK testing system labs. Scotland is in a much, much better place than england.0 deaths up here and i think it is 44 in england.Ally
Thanks Al, 11.5% though you get 11.5 fish per 100 nets, which suggests there's quite a lot of fish in the water. I take your point, let's see how the numbers pan out.
Scottish numbers: 29 September 2020806 new cases of COVID-19 reported; this is 11.5% of newly tested individuals.Without the Sunday effect, we can really see how things are spiraling out of control. To put this into context, it would be the equivalent of circa 10,000 cases in the UK. That is on a par with France and Spain, whose hospitals are now filling up, and they are running out of ICU. capacity in some cities.
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Not sure what you mean.https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/casesNew positive cases by sampling date:Scotland715 24th568 25th410 26th340 27th105 28thSimilar pattern UK-wide, which is good news.Not sure what you mean.https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/casesNew positive cases by sampling date:Scotland715 24th568 25th410 26th340 27th105 28thSimilar pattern UK-wide, which is good news.The same pattern can be seen in cases reported on day X, albeit we had weekend delays giving the odd effect you mention. Your 806 contains results from as far back as the tail end of last week, which only came back from the lab in the past 24 hours.New positive cases by date of test / sampling is the most up to data information and the best way to spot infections rising or falling. It will have some delay too, but you don't get the scatter.Today's % positive is also affected as it's not for the past 24 hrs, but based on samples taken last week. So in terms of tests in the past 24 hrs, it's not 11.5%. We should see better tomorrow.
Sunday's % positive is likely more reliable as it will be for the latest Scottish NHS tests.It's the UK programme tests which take ages. The delays here have been all over the papers. Scottish government were idiots to rely on the UK here. How stupid was that.From the look of things, probably about 600 of today's reported cases need to be removed, and reallocated to Friday / Saturday / Sunday. That would agree with the above peak on Thursday, with results beginning to filter through 24 hours after testing.
Anyway, we're not out of the woods by any means, but there are tentative signs the tightening restrictions may be having the desired effect and starting to temper the recent rise in cases.
WGD in his latest post makes it quite clear he is just another gradualist. Win another election win a proper mandate he says. He rubbishes the previous mandates and election wins that he previously used to regard as vital. Nothing but jam tomorrow. How many times can bloggers and the SNP keep saying the same thing and getting away with it. A lot of people are creating the impression they are very comfortable arguing that Britnats are bad and independence will happen if you keep the faith and keep buying the National.
He does`t rubbish the previous mandates and election wins, he points out the the figures were`t right at those times.
Isabel5 - try reading it again. Try the paragrapgh that says the 2016 mandate was ruined by the huge losses in the GE of 2017. So a mandate for a referendum by Scot parliament election is destroyed by an SNP win in 2017 GE. If you follow that logic a reduction in the number of SNP MPs in any General election after a 2021 Scot parliament win would do the same. No the only throwing it all away going on is Mr Kavanaghs integrity.
I thought the WGD article was excellent and he got everything spot on.IfS - I think that it is you and your ilk who are completely wrong wanting to hold an indyref before there is some certainty about winning it.We can agree to differ but it would be better if you and your ilk could refrain from continually attacking the SNP - that is the job of the Unionist lot. Why do you want to help them? or maybe you are one of them.
Classic unknown comment. Any criticism of the SNP you must be a Britnat. The Britnats are in the SNP. One of them actually said she was a soft yes at the Salmond trial. "Ilk - like the head in the sand ilk that you clearly are.
For some reason the system won't let me sign in as usual as Clachangowk ( better known as village idiot) but even then that's just as anonymous as Independence for Scotland.By the way - I merely asked if you might be a Unionist. You did not deny it so I am not yet convinced that you are not.
Unknown - are you a child molestor? Or do you feel offended by being asked the question. Do I care if you are convinced - no. Now try and convince me you are not a child molestor. Moron.
Unknown - following your logic you have not denied you are a child molestor nor have you tried to convince me that you are not so I am not yet convinced that you are not.
It wasn't about mandates in 2017.It was about whether the voters would wear another Indyref after just 3 years.The SNP took the foot off the gas by declaring THIS IS NOT ABOUT INDEPENDENCE. Labour then had their Corbyn bounce, and Davidson, aided by a compliant press brought the Tories back from the dead. The trouble with you is you would have called an Indyref in such unchancy circumstances. Instead of calling everybody a gradualist - the new swear word for you guys - screw the nut, and realise we're in a far better place today to go on and win our independence.
Ramstan - " the trouble with you is that you would have called an indyref in such unchancy circumstances" - never said that. Straw man time again.So Ramstan who removed Salmond from the SNP history - Soviet Union style?
The WGD article goes into great detail to explain electoral circumstances anent an Indy mandate in 2017 and the poor prospects of winning it then.If I mind right the SNP got 37% and had to re-group. A blunder in my opinion for the SNP to go into an election not prioritising independence. Lesson learned now I'm sure. We should be more concerned now about the power grab on Holyrood and moves to put off the SP election.Weakening Scotland's democratic capacity to resist London rule is undoubtably the main topic at the big table in London. Do not underestimate the forces and resources being used against Scotland.
Seems to me that the 'SNP betrayal' tendency are avoiding a crucial issue. I should preface this by saying that I think that there are some pretty unhealthy tendencies in parts of the top leadership.Suppose the anti Sturgeon et al voices were successful and the party leadership collapsed. Think through the MSM, tory, Labour etc reaction - a hurricane of anti independence horror and outrage hits voters who have little else to work from. We saw the effect on the 2017 SNP vote of a much smaller wrong step by the party leadership. Does anyone honestly think that there is time to build an alternative quickly enough to avoid a triple disaster of 'eye off the ball' on indy, Covid and Brexit?Think it through!Shouting and dancing about just demonstrates lack of political realism. Yes there are faults but the leadership that we have is the one that we are going to have in the upcoming crucial phase. I for one will be considering my political options very carefully after indy. For now unity is essential and loud voices with no depth of thought are making themselves part of the problem rather than part of the solution that our country desperately needs.
But what if the reason why the anti Sturgeon et al voices were successful was because they were correct; there had been serious' issues re the attempted Salmond prosecution.Would it be right leave that leadership in place, despite that? If someone has - knowingly and deliberately - misled you for their own ends, and you vote for them to continue, are you not ducking your own responbility? If there are issues re Salmond to answer, it's a lot more than simply 'holding your nose' when you vote. It was not done for the 'wider good' of independence; you are entitled to question the leadership's motivation.
Alt Clut - " I for one will be considering my political options very carefully after Indy." Does it ever cross your mind that people in the SNP/Scotgov who are quite comfortable with the current situation may not like to hear this type of comment and may see their position disappear with independence the more people imply they will not vote SNP after Indy.
This new ISP would of course be the same. Independence would end the reason for its existence, particularly if it is largely a single issue party. ISPs MSPs would face very short careers if they really do back indy. Quite the contrast to the SNP MSPs who would likely continue to hold a significant number of seats in a future parliament, either a smaller rump yellow flag liberal party, or having moved to new parties. Sturgeon and colleagues have zero to fear from indy; she would likely be Scotland first PM. For her and the wider SNP, indy would almost definitely be a career advance they'd be sitting at the top tables of the world.Scottish MPs in London are the ones who'd say goodbye to their seats. It's why the ISP are not doing a UKIP and focusing on the Union parliament like Farage did. Or even a Sinn Fein and standing on a 'withdraw Scotland immediately' ticket.The Wings over Scotland blog already seems to be struggling now Yes is the norm. The future of this blogsite, and Campbell's primary source of income, really does depend on independence not happening. If Boris grants an S30, the Wings blog is done for with Yes >50% now.
Skier - I support independence not a political party. PS Have I mentioned I have nothing but contempt for you - I know you have a problem reading so I will repeat it a few times so that eventually you will get the message. You really really have a problem reading - I do not care if the blogs - any of them come or go after independence. " If Boris grants an S30" - your cup runneth over with the Cringe Skier. Pathetic. Please Boris old chap can we Scots have the right to ask ourselves if we want to be independent. Pathetic cap in hand Cringe Skier - away and hide until its all over - nothing but contempt for you - got it yet.
Ok, 'if England agrees to recognise Scottish indy'. An S30 isn't permission. Only cringers think that.It's getting England/the rUK to say they will accept the result and sit down to hammer out a deal, and doing so in front of the world.Scotland doesn't need permission, but what it can't do is force England to recognise and indy Scotland. Nobody can force that, not even the UN. The UN etc could e.g. force the rUK to withdraw from Scotland, declaring Scotland as independent, but it can't force the rUK to accept that and deal with an iScotland.If the rUK refused to recognise Scottish indy and would not sit down around the table...closed the border at Gretna etc., it would be pretty bloody awkward, and very damaging for both countries. But it can't be ruled out.The S30 is about getting agreement they won't act in such a way.So, it's sensible to try and get it. Very sensible.I'm not a quitter. I don't take No for an answer unlike some.
Skier - " I don't take no for an answer..." - what are you going to do tell Sturgeon to crawl on her knees while holding out her cap the next time. " It would be pretty bloody awkward" - well no shit. You think Westminster is just going to say jolly good show old chaps have your referendum and we will just give you what you want if you should get a majority. How long does Sturgeon crawl Westminster to get this S30 - another 5 years another 10 years.Mega cringe.
Somerville looked very nervous at the Daily Briefing today. I wonder why? Is it the thought of being challenged in her constituency for the right to stand as its MSP. It was, of course, a very good announcement about the self isolation payment she was making.
This gets grimmer by the day.Scottish numbers: 30 September 2020640 new cases of COVID-19 reported; this is 10.3% of newly tested individuals.7 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive15 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19.137 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19.
I'm not sure if you just don't understand the subject at all, or are trying to mislead people.The trend in new case rates for the past 5 days is tentatively down, or at least the rate isn't increasing, but is stabilising.People should trust public health Scotland on this.Their graph:https://drive.google.com/file/d/187wFUCt0G60XMmVsv32OsssxqsvXJL9z/viewFrom here:https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/OverviewNow of course the last point for the 29th will not look as good tomorrow when delayed results are added in (the 30th will appear and be very low), but for now at least the new cases peak was on the 24th. And the data from there up to the 28th is unlikely to see much change; only the 29th as more results come back from the UK labs which are slow. % Positive is the same; has been largely stable for 5 days now, maybe even starting to edge down, rather than continuing the upward trend we were discussing. The tighter restrictions do seem to be having some effect already, with the exponential that was emerging appearing to have been curtailed in earnest. I trust that you hope that the new case rate continues to fall.
Here's the % positive data.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VovtmU643575d1QPvObFPg7p_6GB0KyS/view?usp=sharingEdging back down for now. Early days though.
You know what annoys me about the current WGD article - throwing it all away - Mr Kavanagh knows 100% about what has been going on re the Salmond scandal. He allows his disciples on WGD to prattle away knowing full well they are wrong. Why - I hope it is because he genuinely feels that sweeping it all under the carpet is the best approach to gain independence. He may be right. I hope it is not just because of a personal dislike(hatred) of Campbell of Wings.The Salmond scandal stinks and sweeping it under the carpet will not work - that is my opinion. The smell will not go away, indeed it will get worse. Who has created the smell - the Britnats in the SNP/Scotgov - not the people who say - what's that smell? The smell has been around for years now - time to clean up the mess.This is a matter of basic decency. Was Lord Steel correct to cover up Cyril Smiths horrendous crimes because it was the right thing to do for the party. I thought no then and I think no about the party - -SNP - I have voted for all my life.
You are aware that the Holyrood investigation is complaining that Salmond is also withholding information? It seems all sides are holding back.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-54343018But convener Linda Fabiani said it had been "completely frustrated" by the lack of evidence being handed over.She said the committee was still awaiting responses from the government, Mr Salmond and SNP chief Peter Murrell.
Skier - I doubt there is anything you can tell me about that I am not aware of. Quite frankly I have nothing but contempt for you - hope that is nice and crystal clear for you.
I don't have contempt for you IoS. I'm not that kind of person.I just honestly say what I see.
Skier - " I just honestly say what I see" no you don't. Glad you can finally read I have nothing but contempt for you. I know exactly what kind of person you are and, have I mentioned it before, I have nothing but contempt for you.
I don't really mind TBH IoS.And no matter how much contempt you have for me, I don't have the same for you. I've never used such language nor chucked insults your way. Just debated robustly and sought answers to questions, which for some reason seems to piss you off.And given you've never met me, I can't imagine how you'd know me at all.I do like to play the devil's advocate and I don't like when I'm sold shite. Something smells around the Salmond case, but it's coming from the British civil service, N. British Branch, or, as the BBC likes to call it, 'the Scottish government'.7 out of 9 complaints, including the most serious one, came from those on the whitehall payroll. None, it appears, from any elected SNP.
Skier - after saying you know nothing about the people involved you know seem to be certain about them. But as ever you get it wrong. Eg There were 14 complaints not 9 as you say. This is the last time I am correcting your crap. If people are not convinced that you deliberately post wrong and misleading info by now then they never will.
Still no comment on the Scottish Government's refusal to cooperate with the Inquiry? None?
I think it's kinda obvious why the British civil service in Scotland (aka 'Scottish government') are not being cooperative. Salmond already roasted Leslie Evans et all in court over their botched investigation.
Just a minute.Are people really thinking that 'the Scottish government' is Sturgeon, Harvie and other MSPs?They are elected ministers. They don't get to make the rules regarding their own conduct. For very good reason.The procedure that was used against Salmond was not one created by the SNP (who don't even have a majority), nor the Holyrood cabinet, nor MSPs as whole. Of course not LOL. Politicians deciding what they can and can't be investigated for is what happens in tin pot dictatorships.No, policies regarding the behavior of ministers, who are temporary employees of the UK civil service, are decided solely by the UK civil service, not ministers. Why do you think Whitehall was putting in its tuppenceworth? Jeez, I thought everyone understood this.Sturgeon didn't make the rules (Evans oversaw this) that targeted Salmond, nor did she make a complaint against him, nor did she implement the rules which led to the botched investigation.And when Evans said to her, do you think we should allow complaints regarding sexual abuse by previous ministers, i.e. retrospective complaints, what else could any minister say but 'Yes, I agree', lest they be seen as a friend of jimmy saville. This is why the calls were for Evans to resign after Salmond won the case. It was naff all to do with sturgeon. She would have been consulted as standard, but an employee doesn't get to make the company regulations! There's no way MSPs could have justified rules that didn't allow for past misconduct to be investigated anyway.Evans is of course 1 of 3 unionist stooges selected by London that sturgeon had to pick from for the role. She had the choice of 1. Whitehall's choice, 2. Whitehall's choice, or 3. Whitehall's choice.Sack Evans and Whitehall will offer up more 3 more devils she doesn't know. Of course the BBC like to use the term 'Scottish government' in the hope you are an idiot and think that means Sturgeon and the SNP made the rules. It's not really a lie, for the civil service are an arm of the government, the others being the executive and parliament.But it's only the civil service who get to decide employee (ministerial) conduct policy. Sturgeon doesn't get to decide whether she can be investigated for misconduct or not LOL.
Skier - are you related to Gordon Brewer - hold on a minute. Sturgeon signed off the new harrassment process and ensured she had no role in the process. Her Chief of Staff was involved In the creation of the process. According to you Sturgeon and Murrell jointly get paid to run the Scotgov and the SNP but do nothing and have no responsibility for anything. As ever with people who want to mislead they throw in a good measure of truth in to the mix along with their misrepresentations. As I said Skier I have nothing but contempt for you. Just thought I would reiterate that for you.Jeez, I understand what you are all about.
May I ask what you don't like about the process? What you disagree with? Or would you have also not objected to it (aka 'signed it off)?
Can you list all the MSPs who objected to the proposed process when consulted, particularly the bit that would allow of past abuse by ministers to be investigated?
Skier - Harvie is not a minister. As so often your posts are riddled with basic factual errors. The Scottish greens are not in Government . It is not a coalition government it is an SNP government. As a spokesperson for the alphabet women on this site you ain't doing a great job. People like you trying to cover up this scandal are a disgrace. No better than Lord Steel and his cover up.This stinking mess needs clearing up
The policy applies to harvie as an MSP. That's what I meant by 'ministers'. As you note, the SNP are not in power as they do not have a majority. They cannot make policies the parliament disagrees with. They don't control the chamber. Sturgeon can't make policy unless it's supported by sufficient MSPs.Yet you tell people Murrell is running the place. Does Murrell control all the SNP and Green MSPs? What about the libs? The Tories?Clearly he doesn't control MacAlpine. Nor Christine Grahame, so that's at least another 2 off his team. What about Alex Neil? He's clearly not under Murrell's control...I ask again. Would you have been against allowing women to complain of past sexual abuse by MSPs/ministers, or would you have signed off a policy that was retrospective?
Skier - more DRoss from Skier. Attempting to change the meaning of the word Minister in the Parliament - pathetic.Back to the Murrells have no power and no responsibility nonsense again.You can ask your silly questions all you want. It's not me who tried to jail an innocent man in the most despicable, underhand and cowardly way. Please feel free to pass that on to the people you are trying your hardest to protect.
You're the cringer IFS not skier.The mandate for Indyref2 is like an elephant - you'll know it when you see it. Up to now unionists have been hanging their hat on whether 50% voted for Indy parties, then it had to be SNP alone, then the excuse was 'you don't have a mandate because some SNP voters don't want independence. All pure Unionist guff. You seem to believe every word Johnson utters. 62 countries have won their freedom from London. Have faith in the Scottish people, not the word of a notorious u-turner.
Ramstan - now you are posting complete crap. I don't believe every word Johnson utters. Just because you are struggling to find something to criticise me does not make your comment true. So Ramstam - as an SNP member surely you know who wrote Salmond out of the SNP history and why was this authorised? The truth is that it annoys the hell out of you that I ask this question. What a way for SNP members like you to let Salmond be treated.
It would be good if you could provide a link to this page on the current SNP website.
Skier - I know your game so I won't be answering any of your questions."On the CURRENT website" - the more you post like this the more I believe you are a spokesperson for the alphabet women. It would be good if you weren't full of the Cringe and stopped defending shameful actions - but you won't.
Well yes on the current website. Everything on old websites no longer available online has been technically 'wiped from history'.I looked, and it seems that the section on Salmond was removed from a history page that existed then ahead of his trial for multiple counts of sexual assault, including attempted rape.I don't find this shocking; the man was in court for serious crimes and had voluntarily resigned from the party. The party could not know if he was innocent until the trial was concluded.Imagine he was a pervert. It would have been a slap in the face to assaults victims everywhere for the SNP to push him as a 'hero' on their website. It would be asking for the media to attack them too. If they upload a history page now with him missing, it would be pretty pathetic. That I agree with.
Skier - you don't find anything shocking about this scandal do you - that is what is shocking about you. Again Skier you tell me nothing factually I don't already know."The party could not know if he was innocent until the trial was concluded" - just more of your crap. 1. They knew fine well he was innocent. 2. What happened to innocent until proved guilty. Skier and the plotters are in alignment. Trying to cover up this scandal = I have nothing but contempt for you.It is why you misrepresent and go out your way to cover up is the info I don't have.
It was Hynd that identified the gap in Holyrood sexual harassment procedures which allowed the Cyril Smiths of this world off Scot free. He's been at pains to say so in the inquiry. Sure Sturgeon was keen to close the gap and not copy the unionist Westminster cover ups - who wouldn't be?https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2437264/salmond-inquiry-creation-of-harassment-policy-that-triggered-most-explosive-allegations-in-scottish-political-history/...Mr Hynd maintained the “gap” in the old procedure, which meant former ministers were not covered, was identified by him when he was commissioned to produce the policy by the Cabinet on October 31 2017.Mr Hynd acknowledged that the inclusion of former ministers made the Scottish procedure “unique” and such a provision had not been adopted at [Great British Unionist] Westminster [so pedos like Cyril Smith could get away with it].Yes Salmond remained innocent until proven guilty. I said so myself many times on here to unionists. But no political party on earth would act in any other way in the face of such a trial. It's why he voluntarily removed himself from the party, and so the webpage you describe; he resigned from it in effect. Don't you remember him voluntarily resigning? He left the SNP 'to clear his name'. He airbrushed himself.I can assure you that if the leader of the ISP ends up on multiple counts of sexual assault, including attempted rape, no matter what party members might think, they will act similarly. Any party / organisation / business etc would do this. If the SNP kept the page up, it could even prejudice the trial potentially as looks like they are taking sides.It's really madness to suggest otherwise.
And while Salmond absolutely does seem to be at the centre of a witch hunt by the British Civil Service (and likely MI5), the idea that the SNP committed this massive act of self harm against themselves is comical.Political parties keen on staying in power don't manufacture high profile sex abuse scandals about their own time in office! And certainly not to 'bring down' popular former leaders that retired years ago.There is absolutely zero motive for Murrell, Sturgeon or any other high ranking SNP to do this to Salmond, themselves and the party. Christ, imagine Salmond had been found guilty. That SNP would imply the SNP had been covering up his abuse all these years, Sturgeon included. 'How could they have not known'? the headlines would read. FFS; the idea that they wanted 'Salmond the perv monster protected by Sturgeon, Swinney, Murrell for years' all over the Daily Record is utterly farcical.'SNP tried to block retrospective legislation to protect Slimy Salmond the rapist!'You seriously think any careerist politician worth their salt would commit such a massive act of self harm?None of the accusers were senior SNP politicians as far as I can see and 7/9 were in the direct employment of Whitehall. Apparently young ladies employed to be alone with Salmond late at night in Bute House. Enough said.
This is like current senior Tory cabinet trying to secretly prove to everyone that Thatcher did know all about Saville, even joined in, and that they brushed it under the carpet to protect her themselves...All so they could, erm, stay in power.
People starting to make excuses about no election next May. Rumours of no SNP conference taking place. Other places in the world are having elections right now - eg USA and with a heavy covid death rate.The excuses are getting lined up again for no indyref.
Very good news.The trends I describe above in Scotland are also apparent in UK/England data, suggesting a slowing of new cases UK-wide.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54366478Covid-19: Growth in cases may be slowing in EnglandThe growth in cases of coronavirus may be slowing down, the largest study of the infection in England suggests.A team at Imperial College London analysed samples from 84,000 people chosen at random from across the country.They said the R number, the virus's reproduction number, appears to have fallen since measures including the "rule of six" were introduced.
Latest Scottish data consistent with this.https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview% positive seems to have stopped rising as of the 24th along with new cases / day. Both a have fallen a little since then, but not enough to say whether it's a real fall, or just a stable pause. But not going up for now, which is the main thing.Anyway, fingers crossed. If this continues, then the developing exponential rise has been nipped in the bud.
Well this is awkward.https://www.isp.scot/about-executive-committee/It seems we can’t find what you’re looking for. Perhaps searching can help.
More total pish from Skier re the Salmond scandal. Can't be bothered correcting his pish. I think he is experiencing problems since his mate the Britnat turd GWC is no longer about.
You just had to watch FMs questions to see the stink of the Salmond scandal is not going away. Trying to sweep it under the carpet like WGD and his disciples advocate is both morally wrong and politically wrong.WGD knows exactly what has been going on so his position to sweep it under the carpet is his choice. Does James Kelly know - I don't know but it would be surprising if WGD had not discussed the matter with him.
Is that you Ruth?
Is that you Murrell?
Skier says - "he airbrushed himself" skier says Alex Salmond removed himself from the SNP history on its website. What a lying misrepresenting toad you are Mr Murrell/Skier. Aye Salmond acessed the website erased all mention of himself and changed it to say that Nicola Sturgeon was in charge of the 2014 Indyref and it was only Nicola Sturgeon who signed the Edinburgh Agreement etc etc .You post nothing but pish Skier/Murrell.
Alex Salmond resigned from the SNP. He removed himself from the SNP. It was a basic metaphor. Given he had been charged with multiple counts of sexual assault, including attempted rape, it's hardly a shock that the party took down the history pages praising him following his resignation pending trial. It's almost comical that you think this was some sort of conspiracy theory. Jesus wept. No sane political party would act in any other manner than this.I say again, if the leader of the ISP is charged with multiple counts of sexual assault, you will see the party react in an identical manner.
And I watched FMQ's today. You do remind me of Ruth Davidson. She asks all the same questions you do.
Skier - you are a amoral character just like Murrell. So pissoff and go look for your old pal the Britnat turd GWC you seemed to get great pleasure with. You clearly are missing him and have started to develop some problems.Never heard Davidson asking who rubbed out Salmond in the SNP history. So once again you are posting pish. Skier you post a never ending series of lies and misrepresentation - they never took down pages they amended them to delete any mention of Salmond and promote Sturgeons role. The fact that you think this is ok suggests to me you would have felt at home in the Stasi.
Here is a question that Davidson will never ask - how does it help the cause of independence for the Scotgov to give £3M to the Britnat media but not a penny to anyone in the independence media?
None of the smartass sweep everything under the carpet posters on here got any answer to this. So they follow their normal default - just kid on it didn't happen.
I dont care about Salmond I am facing redundancy have been told if scot land locks down my job is gone
I sympathize. At my work, the UK government is making 110 redundant by withdrawing furlough wage support in the middle of this pandemic.
Things don't seem to be getting better as Skier suggests.cottish numbers: 1 October 2020668 new cases of COVID-19 reported; this is 10.8% of newly tested individuals.3 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive17 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19.154 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19.
both the cases/day and % positive numbers have stopped increasing; they are lower than a week ago. And it's not me suggesting things are maybe looking up with the tightening of restrictions having an effect, but Imperial College in London.
For those who are wanting a balanced and informed assessment of the pandemic statistics go to https://www.travellingtabby.com/uk-coronavirus-tracker. I would say again Scotland is performing much better than england .Thank goodness we have the FM looking after us and not that joker of a PM in westminster.Ally
Meanwhile on the Gair Loch the military are ettlin tae clear a pod o whales so they can have a NATO exercise.The whales are not distressed or in any danger. They're just in the way of the military and their war games. The spin spin spin of the media is that the whales are distressed and in danger of beaching. Utter pish.They're perfectly happy, and have every right to be there.Right now they're giving the so-called rescuers the slip. The flotilla of inflatables are lined up to scare the poor beasts from the Loch. Make no mistake,,, The military operation is the priority - not the whales.
This cult of the Great leader is a very worrying development in a lot of SNP/independence supporters. Independence should NOT be about following one person. Independence is normal a cult like following of a leader is not.
Who's the 'great leader'? The infamous blogger in his sooth ae England beer gairden? :-)To be honest, I preferred Salmond as SNP leader. I liked the bombast. But he was more marmite.The fact he's not attacked Sturgeon nor said don't vote SNP is important to me in my decision making voting-wise.
Aye Skier, it's what's not been said that's guiding me on my second vote in May.I won't be making my mind up for a wee while mind.I dinna dae knee-jerk reactions like. It's called experience.
It is not a cult .We just happen to have a leader here in Scotland who has compassion , honesty ,integrity who is leading us through this pandemic and is in very sharp contrast to england. She also happens to be leader of the ONLY party that can deliver Independence. Unless poling changes any other so called indy party is a fringe party and a vote for them would be wasted.Ally
Note to unknown I am not recommending you vote for any party just that if want Scottish independence you vote for who you think will best deliver it. With regards to my cult comment there are people who are displaying signs of this and I do not think it is healthy.Note to Skier - you are obsessed with Wings and to a lesser extent ISP. Also away and get yourself a GWC Britnat turd doll to play with you clearly are missing GWC. Note to Ramstam - what was not said today was Nicola Sturgeon blanking a comment on the Murrel Whattsapp messages. Nothing to do with me she said at FMQs ask my husband the Chief Exec of the SNP and the Chief Operating Officer of the SNP. Nothing to to with the leader of the SNP. She must have been reading Skiers posts. The leader of the SNP knows nothing and is responsible for nothing therefore the Whattsapp messages are nothing to do with her. A leader who is not a leader who has no control over her Chief Exec (husband) and does not know what he was doing. If you believe that is a sensible and acceptable reply then you are in a cult.
Good morning IfS.As you have been at pains to point out, the police are currently investigating leak of said mystery messages with the goal of potential prosecution the unionist criminal that leaked (or manufactured) them. It's not really a shock therefore if, when questioned, law abiding, pro-indy MSPs would not discuss the issue lest they be charged themselves. Sturgeon hasn't been called to give testimony yet. I assume you haven't been watching proceedings, otherwise you'd know that. Only rabid unionists are passing judgement without letting her actually speak. Yes, that's you Ruth. I shall await her testimony and see if I believe it or not. Wings is a prominent English blog on the topic of Scottish politics. It's been a strong proponent of not voting SNP on the key/most important PR list vote (e.g. he's against 'Salmond for FM!'*), so when that topic is brought up, I mention it. I believe I've referred to the public health Scotland site /data at least as many times on this page, if not more. ---- *Vote Salmond for FM on the list
Skier you clearly are missing GWC. THE ONLY RABID PERSON IS YOU. " Lest they be charged themselves" - you post a lot of desperate pathetic excuses - a sign of a deranged cult member. You cannot be charged for passing comment on a Whattsapp message. You are discussing it right now - are you expecting the police to come calling. I don't care if you think you are playing devils advocate. This is a serious matter and you are just playing at being an arse.
I really can't get this anyone who thinks that losing Nicola as leader of the SNP is a good thing for Indy is stark raving bonkers.I really do despair we are in danger of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
Police are investigating the release of the confidential court documents which include the apparent whatsapp messages in question.It was you that first alerted us to this IfS, in outrage.And yes, you are not allowed to just show people other folks whatsapp messages / the information they contain, not if they were written in confidence. It could well be against the law.https://www.brettwilson.co.uk/blog/how-whatsapp-works-a-legal-guide/Breach of Confidence/Misuse of Private InformationSending a person’s information to friends and/or family on WhatsApp constitutes a disclosure to a third party. If such information is private or confidential and has been disclosed without that person’s consent, then it is likely that, absent any countervailing public interest, they would have a prima facie claim for breach of their privacy rights.Sorry, but you need the consent of all involved in a whatsapp group message to release the conversations in full, which is needed to understand everything that's said in context. A court will not allow partial submissions as these could be misleading due to missing informaiton.So, Murrell could want to show his messages, but can't until all participants are agreed. If one disagrees, then a court order is needed for the conversation to be released.
If I say to you 'I am telling you in this in confidence' or if we have a whatsapp group where we have established that all information is shared in confidence, if you breach that, I can take you to court and would win unless the court decided there was public interest. The police can obtain full transcripts with a court order if anyone objects.
Skier - all the guff you post above is deliberately misleading as it does not apply in this scandal and you know that fine well. These Whattsapp were obtained by the police during investigations for the Salmond criminal trial and were deemed by the judge to be inadmissible for the trial and were to be the property of the Crown and not to be made public. Two specific messages have now been made public. This is nothing like the scenario you outline above. More deliberate misleading and misrepresenting. You truly are a disgrace.
IfS: what was not said today was Nicola Sturgeon blanking a comment on the Murrel Whattsapp messages.IfS: . These Whattsapp were obtained by the police during investigations for the Salmond criminal trial and were deemed by the judge to be inadmissible for the trial and were to be the property of the Crown and not to be made public.And the police are now investigating the leak by criminal unionists of said messages.Thank you for confirming why Sturgeon could not discuss the subject of an ongoing criminal investigation at FMQs.
Skier - more pish from you. You must look like a corkscrew with all the twist and turns and contortions of logic you spew out here.Sturgeon was not asked to discuss the criminal investigation she was asked about the contents of the Whattsapp. Sturgeon herself never said the criminal investigation was preventing her answering never mind taking responsibility as the leader of the SNP/Scotgov.Skier you use the term Unionists. Only Britnats think of themselves as unionists and use the term. So are you Murrell? If not why do you defend a criminal plot?
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18764101.scottish-independence-inevitable-nothing-worry-uk-ceos-agree/The above link showing a poll that 96% of UK CEO's believe that their company's could adapt well to an Independent ScotlandAlly
Sage (previous) advice from Wings here:https://wingsoverscotland.com/some-eu-ado-too/The well-established principle of maintaining confidentiality over advice [inc. legal] to ministers is a sensible and honourable one, followed by all governments of all parties in all parts of the UK. The practice extends to revealing whether advice exists, as well as what it is...As he says, no enquiry/court can demand that people (e.g. Salmond, Murrell) or governments (e.g. Scotgov) hand over confidential legal advice they have received. The entire legal system would collapse if that happened. Same goes for documents such as conversations, whatsapp messages, emails... there are laws protecting such private information and one party just can't produce it freely on request.The advice you receive from lawyers is private and confidential and must remain so unless it is unquestionably in the public interest that information be forthcoming. Similar applies for any private and confidential information. Only courts can decide what can be released. Releasing confidential legal advice / documents without the correct procedures could land you in court. This is why the police are e.g. investigating the release of the mystery Murrell whatsapps; if such information has been released, it was criminal. We may not like this sometimes as we seek the truth, but for the same reason Wings demanded that the SNP government had every honorable right to not tell unionists what legal advice they'd had on the EU back in 2014, the same applies to the SNP, Salmond and the Scottish civil service right now. Likewise, they can't just whip out documents if they feel like it.So beware of siren voices telling you that not providing information is 'obstruction'. It might be, but in many cases it's not at all, and court permission is needed. Salmond is saying exactly this right now.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-54343018Mr Salmond's lawyers have written to MSPs saying the former first minister was "very keen to provide as much information to the committee as he is permitted by law", but said there were some "legal restrictions" to this.They said "pertinent material" had been handed over by the government during Mr Salmond's trial, but said they had been told "it would constitute a criminal offence" for them to release it.They added: "Our client cannot realistically provide a statement or documents which are partial and piecemeal. Any meaningful statement necessarily will involve reference to a large amount of the material which he is not permitted to release - and in some cases, even access or refer to."Both the SNP and the Scottish government will be in exactly the same position. If bloggers / the media tell you differently, they are trying to mislead you.
Skier aka Murrell telling you about misleading people after post after post of misleading comments, inaccuracies and lies by Skier himself.Politicians and Skier (Murrell) double standards and hypocrisy the lot of them.
Anyone know if Donald Trump has had his injection of disinfectant..
I think it was bleach.Correction - it was infectant!
Todays new covid case numbers are not great.The only silver cloud is that they continue to support the exponential rise that was emerging being halted.I terms of new cases per day by date of sample/testing, new cases per day stopped rising on about the 25th/26th September. Same for % positives.For the moment, we can't say they are falling, but the rate has stabilized it seems, which is the first step.
The Britnats do not represent me, I don't vote for them never have, they have prevented Scotland from being a normal independent democratic country. I have no expectations of them that are positive.The SNP are the party I vote for. The party I have contributed funds to in the past. They represent me. I expect basic standards of decency from them. If they do not clear out the criminals then the SNP/Scotgov has people in its organisation that are no better than the criminals in Westminster. I expect and demand better from the SNP.
"if they do not clear out the criminals then the SNP/Scotgov"I completely agree and wish the police well in their hunt for the unionist insider that leaked the whatsapp messages. I think you misunderstand me sometimes. The jury has returned on Salmond for me (innocent), but it's still somewhat out on Sturgeon et al.However, so far, I see nothing but a few ropey items of circumstantial evidence 'against' her which is outweighed by lots of solid circumstantial suggesting zero involvement to actual support for Salmond as much as possible. Throw in absolutely no obvious motive, and I can only conclude that 'the SNP' (maybe a couple of individuals, i.e. the 2/9 complainers) are not out to get Salmond, but the British civil service appears to have been. The fact that Salmond as not changed his 'vote SNP' advice since the last time he gave this to me, means I'll still be using that as my reference.
HI IfS I am glad to see you stating your commitment to Independence. I am fully aware from reading your posts that you are not happy with the SNP leadership but at the moment there is not any other party that is going to give us Independence so let's for the moment unite behind the party ,avoid division and get Independence. The Britnats campaign of sowing division is full swing and combatting that is our highest priority at the moment. Ally
Skier - aka Murrell - " 2/9 complainers" - one minute you say you don't know who the complainers are but now you imply you do - PS there were 10 complainers but accuracy never holds you back in punting your fantasy comments does it.So do you know who the complainers are ? yes or no - if it's no then stop posting as if you do. If you don't know who they are then once again you are lying about 2/9. If you do know who they are then then you are lying again.So to summarise you are lying. Skier why don't you pissoff and stick to talking about something you know about - whatever that may be.
9 complainers in court. The 10th was dismissed for not having valid complaints. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-51926614A. British civil service '[Scottish government official] known as Woman A'B. British 'civil servant known as Woman B'C. 3. 'SNP politician known as Woman C'D. British 'civil servant known as Woman D'E. 10th Woman E = charge dropped.F. British 'civil servant Woman F'G. British civil service '[Scottish government official] known as Woman G'H. Former British civil service '[Scottish government official] Woman H'J. 9. SNP party worker known as Woman JK. Former [British] civil servant known as Woman KThat's what I know of them. None appear to be senior SNP.
Skier - "dismissed for not having valid complaints" - rubbish that presupposes the rest were valid. So you don't know who they are but are happy to punt your lies/fantasy. "None appear to be senior SNP" - you don't appear to be in control of your objectivity. Appearances can be deceptive - especially coming from the BBC. I guess all these Scotgov officials are just tea ladies in Skiers galaxy. Did Salmond like a cuppa?Also are Murrell, Ruddick and McCann not senior SNP. Of course never mentioned is were any based in London involved in the plot.If all these people are MI5 then MI5 have certainly pushed the boat out to get Salmond.MI5 or not - not one of them should be in the SNP/Scotgov ever again.
Just who removed Salmond from the SNP history? Was it one of the tea ladies?
Anyone who thinks that the 10 alphabet women - one of whom pulled out at the last minute - all just came together without someone pulling their strings is either deliberately trying to cover up for them - eg Skier or has a bad case of cult conditioning eg BTL on WGD. WGD, of course, knows the truth.
The thing that links the vast majority of them (7/9 or maybe 8/10?) is they are all in the direct pay of HM Great British Unionist civil service in London.What's clear is that only 2 of them have any direct link to the SNP, with only one of them possibly of any seniority (e.g. a councilor or higher level party employee maybe?). I understand the latter is the one that Salmond apparently 'overlooked' in terms of promotion / a chance at standing for election? I believe I read something to this effect(?). Forgive me if I'm wrong here.If 7/9 of the accusers in court were SNP, the situation would of course be quite the opposite! Then we might turn our gaze of suspicion from London to SNP bosses. Certainly, anyone who says the SNP control HM civil service, including MI5 plants, and successfully ordered them to lie in court to further Sturgeon's own career, is either living in cloud cuckoo land or deliberately misleading people.
More lies from Skier who admits he does not know who they are. "What is clear" - it is clear you know nothing but are happy to spout your lies or you do know the truth but you are happy to spout your lies." Forgive me if I am wrong here" - nope you are deliberately lying.
That pretty much sums up my view of the internal SNP stuff.There are are always grudges and power struggles. The Mi5 will be in there stirring to unsettle the Yes movement. It's the lesson of history. We ignore it at our peril.
Let's hope so.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54387057Covid: Growth in Covid cases 'may be levelling off'There is more evidence new coronavirus infections may be increasing more slowly than in previous weeks.The case rate patterns are similar UK-wide, offering some hope here.
A resident of Rutherglen expresses his opinion of Glen Campbell of Reporting Scotland and the BBC live on Rutherglen main st by giving him Churchills V salute. It couldn't happen to a bigger Britnat barsteward.Ferrier may have been out of order but I doubt it has changed the residents of Rutherglen's opinion of the BBC.
It wax a close run between Johnston and Blackford as to who I was most pissed off with tonight as they sounded off on Reporting Scotland.Johnston repeated again that Scotland is being held prisoner in the UK as he said Scotland is not having a referendum.Blackford - he of the oft stated Scotland will not be dragged out of the EU actually said Johnston had the right to take the UK out of the EU. "He wanted to take the UK out of Europe no one stopped him doing that and it is right he had the opportunity to do so. Someone should remind Blackford Scotland voted to remain and he promised us that we would not be dragged out of Europe.A pair of charlatans both of them.
Crazy that so many of the people who feel qualified to comment on politics don't even know the Prime Minister's name.
Sorry Arlene, I'll refer to him as Bojo the clown in future. Happy.
“The twilight of the Union”The pandemic has accelerated the fragmentation of the United Kingdom and made a second Scottish independence referendum inevitable.By Colin Kiddhttps://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/09/twilight-unionAnd this is written by strong supporter of the union.Ally
Ally, sorry to rain on your parade but Tom Nairn wrote a book called The Break up of Britain in the 70s if I remember correctly. 40 odd years later he may be correct eventually but just because a journalist or writer says so it does not mean it will happen. We need a leadership that wants to make it happen.
Genuine question, but if Sturgeon doesn't want indy, why is Johnson refusing a Section 30? He's doing real damage to the Tories and the union for no reason at all.
" Genuine question." What the rest are normally fake!! Told you before I am not here to be your personal assistant. As your pal Campbell said you really really don't read well.
This is an odd thing to say. I read on an English blog that Scottish indy was blocked in perpetuity by London simply refusing a Section 30 to Nicola Sturgeon even though she doesn't actually want one. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-54399616Douglas Ross tells Tory party conference Scottish independence 'not inevitable'Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross has called on his party to end the "defeatism and disinterest" regarding the country's future in the UK.Mr Ross said both an SNP majority in the 2021 election and Scottish independence "is not inevitable".
He's right that a pro-indy majority isn't inevitable, not if the list vote is badly split.
" For such people , to challenge their norm head - on by pointing out some unpleasant salient truths is painful, and an angry rejection the most likely response. The anger is a displacement of the (possibly subconscious ) recognition of the truth. Their world is more precious to them than a few inconvenient facts." Well said Grizebard on WGD. Grizebard was of course talking about Brinats but it could of course just as easily be about himself and others who turn away from facts like the Whattsapp messages. As I have posted before a complete lack of self awareness.Is this Skier as well? - no - you don't actively post lies and misrepresentation you just blank the matter as they do on WGD.
It's amusing that you accuse me of being 'obsessed' with particular people. Keep the heid mun!
Well stop stalking me Skier and just pissoff you lying toad.
Lesley Riddoch:- ”Professor @StephanieKelton author of ‘Deficit Myth’ bestseller & Bernie Sanders adviser will now advise the Scottish Currency Group, which wants a Scottish Currency ‘as soon as practicable’ after Independence Day. https://facebook.com/groups/715532695555527/ Well done @RideoutTim.” https://mobile.twitter.com/LesleyRiddoch/status/1311979454353338369Another serious step towards Independence. The SNP are committed to the referendum now that they know it is the settled will of the Scottish population. If they back down it would be political suicide.Ally
Hugely uplifting to hear that.Have a lot of respect for Lesley Riddoch too. Hope she has a leading role to play in the YES campaign once the Indyref is called. We need people of integrity who the public respect.
It's good to know I'm not blind. As per the imperial college study, the covid symptom study group are also seeing evidence that cases rates are slowing across the UK.https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/covid-cases-flatteningCOVID cases flattening according to COVID Symptom Study Infection Survey
O/T The number of daily new Covid-19 cases in England has been being underreported in the last few days, they were basically stuck at around the 7000 mark.No longer, “technical issues” apparently have meant that almost 13,000 cases have been reported for the last 24 hours.Figures released five hours late by the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC), show a total of 12,872 new infections. The figure is almost double the 6,968 cases recorded yesterday…The Department of Health has also today warned the infection figures could be higher ‘over the coming days’ after ‘technical issues’ meant thousands of cases were missed off the official figures.In a statement on the department’s website, it said: ‘This means the total reported over the coming days will include some additional cases from the period between 24 September and 1 October, increasing the number of cases reported.’https://archive.vn/AQZSNHere is another source which unfortunately shows a less optimistic statistic. Ally
The SNP seem to have an never ending supply of busses to throw members under for even trivial offences or nothing at all but for those who carried out a persecution of Salmond for 3 years- nothing. They just carry on regardless.
IFS, I find your SNP Bad comments a pain now .You say you want Independence but are behaving like a BritNat. But of course you could well be.Other partiys have had plenty of buses in the sidelines waiting to come into action but the unionist media have successfully buried the news . here are a few examples:And I’m sure that we could add even more names to the list.‘Prince Charles to be asked to fall on his sword?’..”Davidson’s hypocrisy is unsurprising. She didn’t resign over Dominic Cummings or the royal visit to Royal Deeside by the symptomatic Prince Charles and his huge entourage, trailing the virus in their wake….Returning to Davidson, did she not say, on the Lorraine TV show, that she was regularly driving to the Borders to see her parents, during the first lock-down?Then there was Robert Jenrick, housing secretary, doing the same.Oh, and Stephen Kinnock going to his dad’s birthday party.And the PM’s dad, flying to Greece and back then wandering round UK shops mask-less!No one’s excusing Margaret Ferrier but the media double-standards are all-too-visible here.”https://talkingupscotlandtwo.com/2020/10/03/prince-charles-to-be-asked-to-fall-on-his-sword/
Unknown - take some paracetamol. If you don't like any of my future posts and they cause you great pain try Ibuprofen. Alternatively, you could try reading my post at 2.09pm 3/October where your problem is neatly diagnosed by Grizebard. Of course you could be Grizebard.
Unknown/Grizebard - you do not need to tell me about all the stuff in your post. I am well aware of it and I agree. There is also the Tory MP who was ill with the virus in May this year and took a train home to Darlington if I remember correctly. He certainly never got the treatment that Ferrier has received. Any way Ferrier was way out of order as was the Tory MP.
Who in the SNP persecuted Salmond?You keep telling is people did this, yet won't tell us who or provide any evidence of this.
Skier - more lies - told you before Murrell, Ruddick and McCann. What the fuck is wrong with you. Pissoff you psycho.
Trivial offences?!? She could have infected other people!Seems you have more interest in stirring it than admitting that this MP's position is untenable. She simply cannot continue as if all is forgiven. She hasn't been thrown under any bus. There is no alternative. She's ill with Covid, but should think of others and resign as an MP.You IFS should read your own comments before blowing your SNP Bad cover.
Ramstam - it would appear you are addressing me but of course you are too lazy to make that clear in your posts who you are responding to.You seem to have the same problem as Skier - namely cannot read what is actually written. I'll try and spell it out for you. Please read slowly and more than once also.I NEVER MENTIONED FERRIER. I NEVER SAID FERRIERS ACTIONS WERE TRIVIAL. Hopefully the block capitals will help you.You Ramstam should also read my comments properly before blowing your cover as an idiot.So just for you Ramstam her position is untenable. Happy Mr idiot. The trouble with idiots like you is that if I had said her position was untenable you would have said the same crap about SNP bad but of course if Ramstam says her position is untenable it is not SNP bad. Have a good look at yourself Ramstam.
SNP on line conference 28-30 Nov.Ally
Ally, that is good news. Perhaps the members will have the courage to sort out their party.Perhaps a member will have the courage to ask who authorised the removal of Salmond from the SNP history and why. They could also ask for him to be reinstated in any future history of the SNP. He may not be a member but is a very important part of the SNP's history. Britnats have foisted on Scots a false history of their country we do not need the party of independence doing the same. Perhaps Ramstam may ask the question as he sure as hell doesn't know.Perhaps some brave party member could ask for the annual GERS propaganda to be terminated.Perhaps some brave party member could ask for Murrell to resign.Perhaps some brave party member could ask why they gave millions of money to the billionaire owned, independence hating media.Are there any Braveheart members in the SNP. It's your party you have let it get like this by your inability to accept any criticism.
Here is another post for Grizebard/Unknown. The SNP should have by now introduced a Scottish citizenship that anyone living in Scotland can appply for.
For the two idiots above - I will repeat I never mentioned Ferrier. I was contrasting how all these people who carried out the criminal plot against Salmond have never been disciplined 3 years on but people like Grousebeater/Michelle Thomson/ Mark McDonald were immediately disciplined. Or how about some of the appalling abuse dolled out to Cherry/McAlpine by party members ignored by the people in charge of discipline.It's time the SNP members sorted out their party and stopped this brain dead knee jerk you must be a Britnat if you criticise the SNP. I want the SNP to perform better. You two idiots just want to sticks your heads in the sand.
IFS I am one of the idiots you refer to i forgot to sign off correctly. Every political party the world over at some time has to put out it's dirty washing and i am sure the SNP will have to do this. But why can YOU not wait till after Independence for this to happen without all this internal party bickering. It is going to be challenging enough to counter the unionist offensive.Ally
Only two people with links to the SNP made any false allegations against Salmond. 7/9 of the accusers in court were HM British civil service.You will need to explain to us to the SNP could discipline people who are not actually in the party.
Skier - just pissoff with your lies. Previously on Skier talks piss he says he will not believe the Unionist Daily Record when it prints a story about Murrell and his Whatsapp messages. Skier then is happy to accept what the BBC say about how the alphabet women can be described/categorised. Yep that's right the BBC whose reporting of the Salmond trial was as per their normal standard of lies, omission and misrepresentation. The same sort of standard Skier continues on this stream. The BBC who produced that disgraceful programme about Salmond by Britnat Wark. Skier says he does not know who they actually are but he is happy to point to the BBC as a honest purveyor of info on this subject. Fucking laughable by Skier."With links to the SNP" - weasel words - SNP members and others with very very very strong links to the SNP - there corrected it for you.I do not need to explain anything to you Skier but I will when I want point out your lies and hypocrisy. Away and buy yourself a GWC Britnat doll to play with.
SNP members and others with very very very strong links to the SNP - there corrected it for you.Why don't you provide us with some evidence of this?You keep making these claims, but provide absolutely f'all evidence for them. We have just got to believe English politics blogs on the matter.One of accusers is described by the BBC as a 'party worker'. I can't find anything to suggest seniority, so I'm guessing some sort of office junior, aide, PA...Only one is described as a 'politician', which might mean they hold an elected post, or maybe once did. Again, no hint was made of seniority, which could be done without revealing identity and which the BBC would have surely relished. As the most senoir figure we can identify, her claim was that Salmond placed a hand on her leg in a car, which isn't really career ending stuff never mind that of jail sentences. The other 7 of 9 are clearly identified as employees of the civil service in London.It's comically farcical to suggest the SNP are able to order 7 of Westminster civil servants to lie for them in court - a criminal offence - simply to further the SNP and the careers of its senior members. You really expect people to believe that? Rather, it looks to me, that we had one party aide who had a personal grudge against Salmond, and another who maybe just didn't like the man, and these jumped at the civil service takedown of him.
And why does Salmond still advocate voting for Sturgeon's SNP if they are his enemy? Why isn't he out campaigning for ISP?I keep waiting for him to change his lifelong advice on this, but it's not happened. Salmond backs Sturgeon's SNP until we hear him say differently.
Skier/Murrell now working with the BBC. More total pish from the the BBCs man Murrell.You ain't no independence supporter Murrell-,why - because no independence supporter I know believes anything the BBC says never mind on the Salmond scandal.Murrel it seems you have a letter in the post from your pal Davidson. Might be a good time to have a chat with your wife about it.
LOL, from the man that gave us the Daily Record Whatsapp messages.The BBC reported the court transcripts. The same is reported all over the place.If you have evidence that the court lied, and in fact 7/9 of the accusers that were in court were not Whitehall employees, please share this with us.
Still no word of denial from Murrell, Ruddick or McCann or indeed anyone from the SNP after 2.5 weeks. Contrast that with all the lies from Skier. A non stop tsunami of lies.Skier/Murrell - I have no intention of breaking the law just to answer your questions - so pissoff you lying defender of criminals and the BBC."From the man that gave us the Daily Record Whattsapp messages" - lying again Skier/Murrell - if you think it was me that leaked the messages best tell the police - you are totally bonkers. Here is another example of Skier/Murrell lies - Skier says Westminster did not want a harrassment procedure that included former ministers because they would have to address Sir Cyril Smith crimes. Lie - Smith was never a minister.Can anyone have lied and misrepresented to protect criminal actions on this site as Skier/Murrell has done.
The latest update says there are 210 people in hospital in Scotland with recently confirmed Covid and 22 people in intensive care.Figures show, these numbers have more or less doubled in a week. Last Sunday there were 105 people in hospital, and 12 people in intensive care.
The latest covid data are again consistent with the new case rate and % infected stablising, as per Imperial College and the covid symptom study.New cases reported have fallen slightly again, with the peak on the 29th not surpassed.The new cases / day (date of sample) seems to be peaking out at ~700, and have stopped rising it seems. Same for % positive; it's remained ~11% since 26th September within variance. This implies the exponential rise has been halted, with the R number starting to edge down.Average deaths/day is ~2 compared 60 or so at the peak phase 1.
Scottish Skier,The most striking thing from your analysis is the quite astonishing fall in the death toll. (Comparing the previous peak and this one) Is there an obvious explanation that I am missing?
The testing rate is much much higher now than it was in the spring, so identified cases are far higher. This is why we see reports of such high case numbers, but still very few deaths. Back in March, most cases were not identified due to not being tested. Unfortunately, it's around 4 weeks from infection to death, so these will trail the recent rise in infections by a month or so. It's why they are picking up now and we are being warned of 'grim' times coming. The death toll will rise, but so far, the signs are not for a repeat of the first wave. And tentatively, the exponential rise may have been tempered by the tightened restrictions.Scotland has a lower case rate too by ~12% per capita, so is not quite as badly affected as the UK as a whole.
The number of UK Covid cases surged by 22,961 on Sunday after it was revealed that thousands of cases were not included in daily reports due to some data files reporting positive test results exceeding the maximum file size.This presumably refers to England so unfortunately for England situation there much worse than here is Scotland.Ally
I accounted for the latest figures in my per capita numbers, which data from 25th September, i.e. to include the cases missing from England.Do this and yes, the number of cases in Scotland is notably lower per capita.
Murrell/Skier says above that perjuring yourself in a criminal court to try to send a man to jail for possibly life " isn't really career ending stuff never mind that of jail sentences".qThat tells you all you need to know about Skier/Murrell - totally bonkers.
Claiming someone placed their hand on your leg isn't likely to end their career, never mind get them jailed.I stand by my comment.
Murrell/Skier - of course you stand by your comment because you are a liar and totally bonkers. I repeat for the person who just cannot read - that's you Skier/Murrell- saying it in court in a criminal case as part of a plot to send an innocent man to jail for life is perjury. Lying about it to a friend in a pub is what you describe.A lier (Skier/Murrel) defending other liars (alphabet women, BBC) is what we have here. That sentence says a lot about about you Skier/Murrell.
Very important to counter some of the dangerous propaganda being parroted by Scottish Skier."Case increases have leveled off": Highly unlikely The Scottish government estimates the R number could have been above one since early September and currently could be as high as 1.7. ReportsCoronavirus (COVID-19): modelling the epidemic (issue no. 20)11 cases on 4th July, 23 Cases on the 4th of August, 159 on the 4th September and 758 on the 4th October, a 6900% increase since the 4th July. "All is well because the death toll has not risen significantly": Hmmm....As of 4th October, 210 people in hospital in Scotland with recently confirmed Covid and 22 people in intensive care, these numbers have more or less doubled in a week. Last Sunday there were 105 people in hospital, and 12 people in intensive care.On Saturday Scotland's national clinical director told BBC Scotland the rise in intensive care figures over the last week were a "very, very loud warning bell that this pandemic is worsening."Scottish Boris Trump Skier needs to start engaging with reality and stop clutching at straws and trying to build unicorns with them. Promoting a false sense of security is reckless in these dangerous times and Skier should stop doing it.
I am simply saying the data doesn't disagree with what Imperial College and the covid symptoms study are saying as far as I can see. Cases are rising, but the rate seems to be flattening out.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54366478Covid-19: Growth in cases may be slowing in Englandhttps://covid.joinzoe.com/post/covid-cases-flatteningCOVID cases flattening according to COVID Symptom Study Infection SurveyAs things stand, Scotland's case rate is ~12% lower than England's per capita, ergo it's in a slightly better position.
Note that personal insults mean you are losing the argument.
And please tell me you are not awaiting the daily numbers in the hope of rising cases / deaths simply so you can attempt to get one over on me. It appears that way.
Hi Poppy BritNat It is going to be a tough winter but I really have to point out that England is going to be unfortunately hit harder. Again there is another shambolic testing failure in england and consequently no contact tracing on the 16,000 + covid cases not previously added to the english figures As always you report SNP Bad. I refer you to https://www.travellingtabby.com/uk-coronavirus-tracker/to get an accurate update on the pandemic. Every time you post your Britnat propaganda on the pandemic I am going to refer people the the link I mentioned above.Ally
The website is pretty good actually, but has the same data as the so called "Britnat propaganda" I've cited above.To Skier if you're inferring that I want to live under restrictions to my freedom, I want my children's education to be disrupted or myself, friends and close family members health to be affected or lives endangered, simply to get one over on a non-entity on the internet, you're delusionally ego-centric to the point where I suggest you seek psychiatric support services.Keir Starmer and Joe Biden call out rising cases as an indicator of Boris and Trump's shambolic mismanagement of the pandemic, do they want death also or just a competent approach to deal with it. I say again Scottish Boris Trump Skier you're the one who's promoting harm by downplaying the situation.
If thinks it's the pair of you that is wishing for death and harm to the people of England, just to show the Scottish Governments appalling performance in a better light.
You will need to show us where we've done that. My most recent post is about how cases may be slowing specifically in England/Wales and across UK. I've done this numerous times.I also post on a range of topics, from polling details to the Salmond trial.You largely pop up each day just to try and get one over on me with the most negative covid figures you can find. You never post anything that might suggest some improvement. It's pretty obvious to readers you want deaths/infections just so you can bash me and Scotland in general.
POPPY DRoss Scotty You are beneath contempt. There is not any evidence what so ever in your statement of the Sottish Governments appalling performance. Ally
And anyway, comparisons between Scotland and the rUK/England/NI are the very essence of unionism. Unionists spend all their time doing this. So if we nats do it, we are being unionist. Articles like this will vanish upon independence: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53061072Such comparisons become largely meaningless if Scotland isn't governed as a region of the UK. Something I greatly look forward to. And unemployment is of course a Westminster reserved matter. It is London's responsibility until such time as Scotland becomes independent.
You have to accept either harsh and depressing restrictions, or the numbers going up. You appear to want the former, particularly in light of your celebration of things getting worse (at least according to you).I should also mention that you also use the cloak of anonymity to hide behind. Also, suggesting psychiatric support for someone who doesn't agree with you is contemptible.
Here's some evidence, the R rate is 1.7 in Scotland, the highest of any nation or region of the UK. A number that will causes cases to rise exponentially.60% of care homes in Scotland had infections, the highest of the nations in the UK, yes that's 60% of the most fragile, vulnerable people in society not protected from a potentially deadly virus. Covid running rampant across university halls of residence, a completely preventable situation. One of the highest death rates in the world per capita and infection fatality rate. Abandoning suppression and saving lives, particularly given a vaccine maybe just a few months away, in favour of lining pockets of wealthy business owners.If your only defence is some pathetic insinuation that people take pleasure in suffering, you really are vacuous.
No, the R rate is not confirmed as 1.7. That is the maximum estimated value. It might be 1.3, the lowest estimate.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53511877In your desire for infections and death, you report the highest number. What is more, this is always based on older data, so is what it was, not what it is right now. The R value is always qualified as such. Taking into account the 'missed' numbers in England, the number of cases per capita in Scotland is 12% less than the UK over the past week to 10 days. This is real data. Erm, the higher % of deaths in care homes in Scotland because the the virus was better contained, i.e. deaths were largely among the groups most vulnerable to it. In England, it spread to those who were less vulnerable, killing old people who lived at home and should have therefore been much safer than the onshore cruise liners that care homes are. It's a tragedy that so many in England died outside care homes where they should have been at much, much lower risk.That aside...TOTAL deaths (daily figs):England 37605Scotland 2530Per million:England = 672Scotland = 464England = 44% higher death rate. It's why Boris is so unpopular on both sides of the border for his herd immunity strategy.
You're using deaths with a positive test result not deaths registered due to Covid in your analysis. This only shows the Scottish Government didn't even manage to test anything like as many people that actually died, which is another failure.4,257 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate46% of COVID-19 registered deaths related to deaths in care homes. The Scottish Government was pursuing a mitigation strategy, i.e. shielding the most vulnerable. So failing to protect people in care homes is absolutely not an indicator of success.Celebrating a greater proportion of people dying in care homes is insanity, I refer to my earlier comments.
1.7 is not the highest end of the range for the R number, it's the most likely figure."In your desire for infections and death, you report the highest number." Hmmmm....What is likely to cause infections and death, caution due to awareness of the R number being high or relaxation due to a perception of the R number being low. Answers on a postcard.It's the dangerous propaganda of Scottish Boris Trump Skier that is likely to cause infections and death.
There's an irony in the apparent intellectual slavery to this regime and its leaders simply because of its constitutional position. The defence of the indefensible, the total faith in government, the adherence to party line and groupspeak with the concomitant lack of scrutiny, critique and rigour is all the more fatuous given the party seems to have abandoned the push for independence.Its the apogee of cultism.
"1.7 is not the highest end of the range for the R number, it's the most likely figure."You said it was the figure. Now you are backtracking. The range is shown on the BBC update as 1.3-1.7.I am not a slave to the British regime, which is what the current devolved system of government ultimately is, with all the civil servants in Holyrood in the direct pay of Whitehall, as Salmond discovered. Like it or not, viruses control is primarily a reserved matter. At most, the minority SNP administration can just treat the symptoms. The can't do full lockdowns as have no control over furlough, can't license vaccines, can't pause brexit to help the economy, can't close borders, can't borrow to invest in supporting the economy, can't make corporation tax, oil revenue, VAT changes... All they can do is treat the symptoms with the NHS and try to make people socially distance / self isolate with the police enforcing it as best they can. The public understand this, hence majority support for indy. The pandemic has shown how little control Scotland has in the face of such an emergency. People want to 'tale back control'. Even if deaths in Scotland were 44% higher than the UK rather than the other way around, the desire would be the same. It's the desire for control in the face of what's happening that's the driving force.
You may have a point with the R number, I checked the original source, but deaths are not significantly lower in Scotland, the Scottish government failed to test more people that died than the UK as a whole.
The R number within that range is still the highest of any nation or region of the UK.
"but deaths are not significantly lower in Scotland"?The UK has 44% more cumulative covid deaths per capita to date. That's significant.As things stand, new cases / day in Scotland are 12% less per capita. It's not spreading as fast.You understand R right? A larger R number doesn't mean case numbers will grow faster. You know this yes?It is possible to have a larger R, but slower rate of spread. This might occur due to a lower population density or greater social distancing. Conversely, you can have a lower R number, but faster spread...Anyway, the lack of test and trace + tens of thousands of delayed tests means current R numbers in England can't be relied on. It's why there is such a scandal.
Scotland had less than 100 per 100k new cases in the past week. You can see all the areas of the UK where the rate of infections is much higher; they are in yellow.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
I have no problem signing off with my full name. For all of us the winter is going to be tough. I am just so glad here in Scotland we have the FM leading us through this and informing the public what and why the ScotGov is taking a particular decision .And most importantly the vast majority here in Scotland believe in her unlike the PM and his rabble of Brexiters in Westminster. As to your last comment I welcome and is healthy to have a discussion with people whom you disagree with particularly when Btritnats like you and the media here in Scotland constantly peddle lies. Alastair Morton
No problem signing off, Princess Poppy of the Trolls, now going Scotty.
'Trolls' pretty much sums up the only voices left in favour of the union.
And I wish Scotty would beam Poppy into outer space.Ally Morton
Starting to feel sorry for Skier now. He presumably is not getting paid for his efforts in trying to cover up criminal actions unlike others. Doing it for free are you?
May I ask whos criminal actions am I covering up? Please give me some names so I know this.
Just why has there never been an investigation into the leaks to the Daily Record of the Salmond gory lies by the Scotgov. Just why has no one from the SNP raised this question. It has been years since that leak happened. The initial reason/handy excuse was a criminal case was now underway. The Salmond criminal case finished in March. Perhaps some Braveheart SNP member can raise it at the November conference.
The Record is where I read the criminally leaked whatsapp messages you were so keen for us to see.
Skier - it doesn't surprise me you read the record - just about your reading age but you probably misread that as well.
I searched using the text you pasted and that's where it led me.
Here Is another question that Braveheart SNP members could put to their SNP conference. Just exactly what has Murray Foote done to advance the cause of independence since being hired by the SNP and does it offset the damage done by his VOW which broke the Edinburgh Agreement.
Sick of Britnat lies and sick of lies by Skier and others indulging a cover up. Nicola Sturgeon is responsible for the Scottish government it says so on the Scotgov website. Seems obvious to most people in Scotland but the cover up people would have you believe that she is not.Nicola Sturgeon signed off the new Harrassment policy that targeted Salmond and her Chief of Staff was involved in the design of it.Nicola Sturgeons Chief of Staff is a special adviser and like all the FM special advisers are appointed by the FM.
Would you not have signed it off?If you would have not signed it, which perv would you have been trying to protect? The only reason not to sign it off would be to protect a jimmy saville type.In IfS's world, the latest Record headline:Exclusive: How Sturgeon Refused to Sign off Holyrood Sexual Harassment Policy to Protect Slimy Salmond
Here is another question Braveheart SNP members could put to their conference. When the PM Johnson stated in reply to the request for a sect 30 that there was a promise that there would not be another independence referendum for a generation did the FM reply stating that comment was not true. If not why not and should a formal statement to that effect not be issued by the SNP.
'Braveheart'.It was only a matter of time before you gave yourself away.
For those interested, you can find modelling on the Covid R number in Scotland here:https://www.gov.scot/collections/coronavirus-covid-19-modelling-the-epidemic/Latest results are for data up to 30th September, i.e. it's not the R numbers right now, which could already be falling or rising. https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-modelling-epidemic-issue-no-20/The reproduction rate R in Scotland is currently estimated as being between 1.3 and 1.7....Figure 2. Estimates of R t for Scotland, as of 30 September, including 90% confidence intervals, produced by SAGE.