Wednesday, March 19, 2025

Stonking Survation survey shows the Scottish Parliament on course for another PRO-INDEPENDENCE MAJORITY next year - and the fieldwork took place BEFORE Labour hammered society's most vulnerable

From memory, I'm pretty sure that the previous Survation poll in early January was the only Scottish poll from any firm over the last few months that didn't show pro-independence parties on course to retain their parliamentary majority next year, so it's extremely heartening that has now been rectified and that all pollsters are in agreement.

Scottish Parliament constituency ballot voting intentions (Survation / Quantum Communications, 6th-13th March 2025):

SNP 34% (-1)
Labour 23% (+1)
Reform UK 17% (+4)
Conservatives 12% (-2)
Liberal Democrats 8% (-)
Greens 4% (-2)

Scottish Parliament regional list ballot voting intentions:

SNP 29% (-2)
Labour 20% (-1)
Reform UK 16% (+3)
Conservatives 13% (-1)
Liberal Democrats 9% (-1)
Greens 8% (-1)
Alba 3% (+1)

Seats projection: SNP 55, Labour 19, Conservatives 17, Reform UK 14, Liberal Democrats 13, Greens 10, Alba 1

SNP + GREENS: 65 SEATS
ALL OTHER PARTIES: 64 SEATS

SNP + GREEN MAJORITY OF 1 SEAT

PRO-INDEPENDENCE PARTIES: 66 SEATS
ANTI-INDEPENDENCE PARTIES: 63 SEATS

PRO-INDEPENDENCE MAJORITY OF 3 SEATS

You can guarantee that Alba HQ's resident young whippersnapper Robert Reid (who interestingly is never allowed to put his own name to any of his 'official' pronouncements) will be wound up like a clock to proclaim this poll as some sort of breakthrough.  As ever, don't shoot the messenger here, but there's no breakthrough at all, and 3% on the list is actually a poor showing for Alba that would be extremely unlikely to win them any seats.  The Diffley Partnership were commissioned to do the seats projection, and they must have some quirk in their model that awards one seat to Alba even on 3%, something that I'm almost certain wouldn't be the case if John Curtice was doing the projection.  

It's not totally inconceivable that could happen in the real world election, but it's very, very unlikely.  Small parties have picked up one seat on a low national vote share in the past, but that was because their vote was disproportionately concentrated in particular geographical areas - for example, Tommy Sheridan outperforming the SSP's national vote in Glasgow in 1999.  One of the reasons that Alba weren't even close to a list seat in 2021 is that their vote was pretty evenly spread across the country, and until that changes they'd need to be on 5% or 6% of the national vote to expect to make a seats breakthrough.  I'm wondering if the Diffley Partnership may have relied on Survation's regional breakdown to produce the Alba projection, and if so I think that's a questionable way of going about it, because the margin of error in any regional subsample is bound to be enormous.

A lot of the hype surrounding this poll is about Reform UK's showing, and actually that's fully justified, because no poll from any polling firm has produced numbers anything like this before.  Reform's 17% on the constituency vote is a full three points higher than their previous best of 14% (recorded by Norstat), while their 16% on the list vote also beats their former high watermark of 13% (recorded by both Norstat and Survation) by three points.  However, for as long as the SNP and Green vote holds up, Reform will look less like kingmakers and more like spoilers for the unionist side.

91 comments:

  1. What does a “pro-independence” majority win for us again? With all the ardent gravy slurping going on, and bugger all for indy, I’ve forgotten what an independence minded Scotgov was even like.

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    1. A considerable amount of failed former MP's are aiming to win a seat at Holyrood.

      Should we care who the candidates are or as long as they're wearing a yellow rosette it doesn't matter as long as we supposedly have a pro-independence majority?

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    2. Alyn Smith:” PLEASE, WE BEG OF YOU”

      They can send him down to Number 10, to take ritual slam in the face.

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    3. Isn't that how Labour used to operate in Scotland?

      When they were the dominant Party in Scotland there was a running joke that you could pin a red rosette on a donkey and people would still vote for it. All that's different now: the rosette is yellow.

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    4. Twa anons aboon. Fit would ye prefer ,a Tory- Reform majority, or a Lab- Reform een?

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    5. Novel idea: Assess each candidate individually based on their stance on local issues, policies, experience, and suitability for the area. Vote for the person you believe will represent your constituency most effectively and competently.

      But people have stopped doing that and vote purely on the colour of the rosette they're wearing. It's how we've ended up with so many incompetent politicians.

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    6. @12:32 Is there really such a thing as a unionist who’s so good at supporting local causes and doing surgery work for their constituents that their firm commitment to Scotland’s colonisation is worth waiving as irrelevant?

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    7. Same old same old. Zzzzzzzzzzz

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  2. NEW: Nicola Sturgeon has given a major update on her upcoming book.

    The former first minister took to Instagram on Wednesday to make the announcement, as pre-orders for the book opened. Sturgeon said her book's title sums up its content – as she has named it Frankly.

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    1. Frankly What?

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    2. Frankly, who gives a shit? Has she started attending Parliament again to actually do her job?

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    3. " Frankly...get the door will ye!"

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    4. Fanklie.
      https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/fankle

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    5. So nothing positive to say about the polling figures. Just attack the former SNP leader. Small minded mysogenists.

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    6. She's the one shilling her book everywhere rather than doing the job she's being paid to do.

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    7. Frankly, You’ve Been Had

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    8. Frankly Scotland Didn’t Deserve Me

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    9. Frankly You Should Have Realised

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    10. Frankly my dear I couldn't give a damn.

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    11. Frankly I'm Krankie.

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    12. Frankly You Had it Coming

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    13. Frankly I’m Bigger Than This

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    14. Frankly Scotland Doesn’t Do It For Me

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    15. Frankly You Shouldn’t Have Been Surprised

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    16. Frankly I Come First

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    17. Frankly I Saved Britain

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    18. To be perfectly Frank - some minders do 'ave 'em.

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    19. Frankly You Are Too Wee, Too Poor and Too Stupid

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    20. Frankly I Should Have Took More

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  3. James - you are missing LibDems from "Scottish Parliament regional list ballot voting intentions" figures.

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    1. They're not missed.

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    2. Are they still around?

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    3. “Winning here!” In their handful of redoubts, which still includes where I am right now, sadly.

      But aye, out in Scotland at large they’re as dead as the SDP.

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    4. "James - you are missing LibDems from "Scottish Parliament regional list ballot voting intentions" figures."

      Thanks. Fixed now.

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  4. “Before Labour hammered society’s most vulnerable “

    This is, of course, nationalist propaganda bullshit!
    It’s the benefit cheats that Labour are targeting. Most hard working people will say this has been a long time coming.

    This straw clutching is a clear sign of just how truly desperate Nats have become as they realise their “dream” has died.

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    1. You’ve been reading tabloids to improve your posts a bit, then, KC? Good on you, chap.

      Now you tell us why Scots must suffer for English prejudice against the disabled?

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    2. Angry Britnat must have missed their cereal.

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    3. Tell that to Neil Findlay.anon@ 1-16pm

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    4. Is that the Neil Findlay who happily sat through Tony Blair's Iraq war, Gordon Brown's lies to the pensioners and the Lab-Con councils across the country? That high-minded principled Neil Findlay?

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    5. Labour have a massive choice of election slogans for 2026.

      Vote Labour to freeze your granny.

      Vote Labour to betray the WASPI women.

      Vote Labour to retain the two child freeze.

      Vote Labour to encourage young Scot’s to join the British Army.

      Vote Labour to hammer the disabled.

      Vote Labour to assist in the murder of young Palestinian children.

      Vote Labour to spend more on tanks and drones.

      Vote Labour to help the rich.

      Vote Labour for Reform policies.

      Take your pick.

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    6. Vote Labour: We Snatched Your Lunch Money and Mugged Your Mum

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    7. What about the SNPs election slogan?

      Vote SNP for another 5 years of gross incompetence.

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    8. Eat your cereal.

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    9. Actual estimates of benefit fraud cost: £163.2 million (2023)

      Actual estimates of tax evasion costs:
      £5,500.0 million (2023)

      And that's without considering that the tax rates are unfairly distributed in favour of higher earners.

      Which one does the daily mail and GB news scream about?

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  5. Annoyingly the Reform vote just seems to tick up.

    SNP down one and Greens down two. Just “noise”

    Indy majority is getting close to the line. Wonder at what level the reform vote needs to before the Indy majority is lost.

    Still a year to go before the Scottish election. Swinney will fix it.

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    1. What does "tick up" mean? Is it an exciting new phrase?

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  6. In 2021 with 1.7% of the national vote, Alba got in the 8 regions 1.6, 1.8, 1.6, 1.6, 1.7, 2.3, 1.1 and 1.6%. So with 3% nationally, Alba could pro rata get 4.1 % in North East Scotland, where the 7th regional seat got a formulaic 5.7% (Labour). To get that 5.7% pro rata, they'd need to be on 4.2% nationally.

    Statistics never lie!

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    1. Just to add by the way, three other regions had the 7th list seat with 5.77%, 5.23% effective, and 5.48%. So the list of the 7th seat for the 8 regions by effective percentage is: 6.00, 6.05, 5.77, 6.35, 6.25, 5.70, 5.23 and 5.48%.

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  7. Great. When will Swinney tell us the date for indyref2.

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    1. No ifs, no buts. A referendum will happen on the 19th October 2023!

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  8. Very good SNP performance! Well done John Swinney.

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    1. Encouraging to see SNP get 55 seats.

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    2. John Swinney’s just the Brit for me!

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  9. They're like a group of people who used to go to a forest, to pick up some rabbit grass, but are no longer doing that. Not even in Lithuania!

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    1. I have picked up on the reference both to the people involved and the language. Witty!

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    2. Deliciously witty 🤣

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  10. I wouldn't get 2 excited about the polling results:

    1. Pro-I Constituency Votes = 34% + 4% + 1% = 39%
    2. Pro-I Regional Votes = 29% + 8% + 3% = 40%

    So Unionist majority in both ballots.

    As you say, it is highly unlikely that the Alba Party's 3% on the list would result in any seats so this calls into question Diffley's projections for parliamentary projections.

    Using Election Polling's calculator (https://www.electionpolling.co.uk/swingometer/scottish-parliament?election=2021s&cSNP=34&cCON=12&cLAB=23&cLD=8&cGRN=4&cREF=17&rSNP=29&rCON=13&rLAB=20&rGRN=8&rLD=9&rALBA=3&rREF=16#Scotland) that is employed by other polling companies (such as Panelbase/Norstat) the projections are as follows:

    SNP: 54
    Alba: 0
    Greens: 9

    So, as with votes, that represents a British Nationalist/Unionist majority of +3.

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    1. You are either being utterly disingenuous as to the reality of politics in Holyrood or you are an idiot, or possibly both. You lot certainly come out of the woodwork each time there appears to be solid, albeit slow progress for Indy. And this result is pre benefit cuts and pre electioneering. Good if not spectacular. Don’t bother replying. I’m not interested in being dragged down to your trolling level.

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    2. So you can troll Duncanio but then run away rather than debate the subject with him? Coward.

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  11. It is indeed a STONKING poll..

    The SNP and Greens are only down a point or two.

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    1. I think you mean a STINKING poll given that parties purportedly favouring Scottish Independence represent only two-fifths of all respondents.

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    2. Did none of you get critical thinking lessons in secondary school?

      Why on earth would you think that at every single election, every single supporter of Scottish independence votes purely on that criterium?
      There'll be a whole range of reasons why an indy supporter won't vite for an indy party at whatever election, not least is the fact that should they do so, it'll guarantee a Tory wins the seat. So lots of SNP voters may vote Labour or Lib Dems to keep the tory from winning. Is that news to you?

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  12. Hilarity continues in the btl over on WOS. Someone called Sarah claiming that the rev’s ranting is read by over 40,000 people. A core number in the low hundreds read and post to his blog multiple times daily. His readership figures have been ridiculed and denounced by James himself. The frothers really will believe anything they read on his blog. Please send the rev some money. His fuel bills are going up.

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  13. I know it's a long shot but a sustained push within the SNP to increase elected member accountability to the party might, if able to make headway, blunt the troughing a bit and maybe even stiffen a few jelly backbones. Worth a go.

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  14. if half the country supports independence and the main vehicle to it is getting 30%, that's it's core vote.

    we've settled into a period of snp, labour on 30% ish percent and the other fighting for the rest.

    It'll lead us nowhere particularly fast.

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  15. 10% of Snp voters went to reform
    12% of labour voters went to reform

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    1. 10% of snp vote is a bigger total than 12% of Labour vote though.

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  16. James, surely the low percentage votes for independence parties is the big issue here?

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    1. No, is the simple answer to that. Elections are decided by seat totals.

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    2. I'm aware of that, but only a third of respondents supporting the so called 'party of independence' can't be good. With yes around 50pc - this must be a concern, as Duncanio points out above., seats might win elections but they don't offer a mandate for anything and this mob will use that as another excuse to do nothing on independence.

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    3. I'm aware of that, but only a third of respondents supporting the so called 'party of independence' can't be good. With yes around 50pc - this must be a concern, as Duncanio points out above., seats might win elections but they don't offer a mandate for anything and this mob will use that as another excuse to do nothing on independence.

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    4. Anon (KC) at 8.26pm you would say that wouldn't you being a House Jock.

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    5. Who the f*** is KC?
      As a relative newcomer to SGP, I’ve no idea who this character is! Maybe IFS or somebody else would be good enough to explain.

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    6. What do you want IFS to explain anything for, he's the most anti independence supporter on the internet, he only exists to be like Peter Bell on steroids, if a woman in the the SNP wants it he would vote against it
      Independence is only for men

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    7. The 50 per cent in favour of Independence will largely coalesce around SNP if SNP focus on Indy as their priority, and a further percentage of undecided and soft no voters are there for the taking, especially from labour, who seem intent on out torying the tories. There is much to play for and we need positivity. The trolls who profess to support Indy such as IFS and his wee pals and the miscellaneous wings and Alba posters with their bitterness agendas will continue with their campaigns of negativity. The good news is that they only impact within this bubble. They are still recovering from the shock of James returning to SNP. Pressure must be put on each SNP MSP to ensure Independence is put back to the top of the list of priorities for the upcoming Holyrood election. J S has been quietly defusing the gender issue, the most divisive issue SNP has had to encounter in some time. Proficiency and competence in governance is also being re established. I will not be replying to the usual crap from the usual suspects. They are not worth the effort. We can do this.

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  17. Evening all - including totally irrelevant Alba Dross, WingNuts and miscellaneous Anon Yoon Tits.

    Wife and I just back from an interesting ten days travelling, attending a brilliant Birthday Bash, spending quality time with our two young grandkids, meeting up with the widow of an old colleague of mine for whom I had the great privilege of being a Pall-Bearer at his recent funeral, visting extended family and friends and having a ball driving through some of the best scenery on the Planet while doing all the above.

    I see this site hasn't really changed that much.

    James continues to be up-beat about the prospects for another Pro-Independence Scottish Parliament in 2026 and the CRUCIAL importance of that, with Alba self-shredding and disappearing down the plughole and the Human Trash known as Reform looking like an inconsequential bit-player in Holyrood, which will be treated like an Ebola-Carrier by all other Parties - as that scum should be.

    And the SAME bunch of irrelevant cretins are STILL throwing their wee rattles out the pram as SNP continues to maintain its primacy with Scottish Voters as THE most popular political party, even after almost two decades in power.

    All very normal, on here.

    Elsewhere - the Orange Balloon continues his merry way to full Dictatorship helped by his new best buddy Putin and the Nazi-Richest-Dummy-On-The-Planet, Starmer has switched from hitting pensioners to shitting on the disabled and decent folk are destroying Tesla.

    Couple of extra points - on speaking to our mid-thirties son and his mates, it became crystal clear that they hate Farage and everything he stands for even more than I do and Alba - with all their internal travails - do not even register on their radar.

    These kids are our future and that future looks pretty good to me - and it will not feature either Reform or Alba in any meaningful way.

    Happy Days.





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  18. Above post was from myself.

    First day back on here and forgot to press the correct ID Button.

    Typical.

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    1. Good to see you back, DF.

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    2. No need to identify yourself, Dave. Every post you make is the same tired old rubbish.

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    3. Any chance of you identifying yourself, 'Anon'.

      Or will you remain just another invisible coward?

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    4. Aye, that's another of your oft-repeated insults, Dave. Time you got yourself some new material. You're so predictable.😁

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    5. Anon at 12:21

      As predictable as deliberately hiding behind anonymity?

      Nope.

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    6. Dave, same old, same old. You really do produce a tsunami of pish on here.🤣🤣🤣

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    7. But Dave uses his real name on here same as I do, doesn't he? I can't imagine he would be hiding behind a made up moniker when he accuses others of doing the same.

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  19. The miracle will happen next year, there will be an SNP majority

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  20. the fact one in three folk are still voting SNP 20 years since coming to power is testiment to the strenght of feeling for independence, i'd say. Albeit the strength of independence as an immediate priority rather than a nice to have dream is at a third.

    i mean most ordinary folk would suggest a government always gets tired unless it refreshes itself, and change is accountability. the fact snp are still winning a plurality shows indy is still winning them votes and noone is hugely impressed with the alternative.

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  21. Just a reminder that the last time Labour were in charge in Scotland they had a ferry built in Poland
    Or how about Labour's Donald Dewar building the Scottish parliament for £80 million that turned out to be £440 million, and that was 25 years ago, so roughly in today's money over £1 billion

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