Thursday, May 7, 2020

Crunch time for Nicola Sturgeon: she must hold firm and maintain the Scottish lockdown in full. Saving thousands of lives is far more important than staying in lockstep with Westminster as it loses its mind on 'Magic Monday'.































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  1. The 5 step plan has nothing to do with ending this or saving lives. It doesn't even account for burn out in those in the care sector eroding the capacity even assuming no further deaths. The plan is and always has been to allow the virus to infect as many as possible without people dying due to not enough ventilators.

    A plan that was meant to take only 12 weeks to achieve "herd immunity" so that all those vulnerable could venture out in public again. A plan that's already failed in care homes. Something that works in cases where there's induced immunity through vaccination being applied to an entirely new disease with no vaccine. And something they intend to continue with no clue as to how far it's spread so far.

    This government has a fucking cheek to try to latch on to VE day when they're approach to Covid is the equivalent of capitulation and when other countries have demonstrably got on top of it and pushed it back in the sea.

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  2. In Spain, which is way ahead of the UK in flattening the curve (as the graph in Jo Michell's tweet above shows) and which has had a stricter lockdown, the restrictions are being eased very cautiously and to a different time scale according to geographical locations. It's obvious the same kind of plan should work for the UK. However, that would mean the UK government actually having to show respect for the devolved administrations. And we all know how unlikely that is to happen.

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  3. Who would ever have believed that the political watershed could become sensible public health on one side vs. death cult jingoism on the other?
    British right wing populism long ago understood that the thin, 'liberal' lid that had been kept on racism and xenophobia for a few decades was holding it back. They're mostly not quite proud racists yet but they dog whistle to it as a matter of course now.

    Ignorant, 'Britain won World War Two', jingoism is the second horseman of their growing apocalypse.
    Maybe they should make the great sacrifice, grind a 'sacred Spitfire' into powder and we could all swallow a little with water to defeat 'Johnny Covid'.
    After all we have the great British traditions of the Charge of the Light Brigade and the first day on the Somme to inspire us.

    The Scottish Government must do every last thing that it can to oppose these union lemmings ( a bit unfair on lemmings actually) and we must all support their efforts. Who knows where that might lead......?

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    1. You sound like the typical English hating Nat si and showing no respect whatsoever for our ancestors who fought real fascists and Nazis.

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    2. Ignorant turd. My uncle was a Royal Navy fatal casualty, by grandfather spent four years in a Japanese prison camp and came back crippled, my wife's father was a Bomber Command DFC winner.
      You morons make me puke. They fought fascism and militarism imbeciles like you turn it into a loyalty test for supporting racism, deliberately created poverty and, in your case, religious bigotry. You scabs are the betrayers - crawl away and die !

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    3. Covidia is happy to let Commando comic do its thinking for it. It is an ultra-right-wing British nationalist, obsessed with a war it never got to be a part of.

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    4. My grandparents fought the Nazis so that Scots could get a Section 30 if they voted for one.

      So far, the only people to deny Scots the vote are the not the Nazis, but the English.

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  4. The Verfassungsgericht has stuck its two very grosse fingers up at the European Central Bank for breaching EU rules in trying, in effect, to print monopoly money to keep Italy afloat. Where are your EU friends in your hour of need! And the Jocko Nat sis want us to be a wee council in the Greater Fatherland.

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    1. Covidia is happy to let Commando comic do its thinking for it. It is a pathetic, jongoistic ultra-right-wing British nationalist, obsessed with a war it never got to be a part of.

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    2. My father was Jewish and the number on his arm was placed there by people just like Boris Johnson, we know who the Nazis are in this country and it's people like GWC whether Labour or Conservative they are the same and they want the same thing

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    3. Totally agree these lowlife Britnats 'oh what a lovely war'
      gits utterly disrespect the people who lived through ( or died because of it) WW2 and suffered horrendous poverty, and grief just for starters.

      The jumped up little Britnats dining out on VE day this year are utterly despicable.

      Certainly as with many, my parents were children during WW2,
      they lost parents who were interred for years in POW camps,
      who came back to nothing, rejected by family. My grandfather suffered terrible PDSD and hardly spoke after had seen the death and destruction as a soldier in WW2.

      It was a terrible time, my father embraced the EU with open arms knowing at least the Britnats would be held to account much more than if they were attached to a 'little America'.
      He would be horrified now to know that is exactly what is happening. Little Britain, a 'little America'

      Terrifying.

      I am sure the job that Nicola Sturgeon has now on top of dealing with these Britnats at No.10 is taking it's toll. She needs to take time out and delegate, I hope she does.

      Keeping the lockdown in Scotland is crucial and in no way should we be bullied into anything but keeping it in place for as long as is needed for the safety of the people of Scotland.

      Can anyone imagine what the situation would be like in Scotland if the Labour ENGUK branch were at the helm at Holyrood? Going on their record in their TEN years at Holyrood, it would be absolute and utter chaos, and that it how they would like it to be now, CHAOTIC. They are disgrace to Scotland and humanity really.

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    1. Get back tae work ya sponger. The 80% from the Tories will end soon.

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    2. Sponge Bob Jock get back to your sewer you Britnat turd. You will feel at home there with your fellow murdering Britnat turds.

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    3. Sponge Bob pants, you just keep working hard and sending all your cash north to Scotland, thanks, much appreciated! Independence is a ruse, Scotland just wants your dosh and all the freebies lolz!

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  6. Another excellent post from James Kelly re the virus. Telling it as it is.

    About time you showed the same courage re the criminal conspiracy against Salmond. Forget your fallout with Wings, forget the National, tell it as it is.

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    1. Wings Forward UnitMay 7, 2020 at 12:10 PM

      Telling it as it is involves reporting that both the RevStu and SealandGazette accounts have been suspended by Twitter.
      Very convenient for some.

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    2. I can exclusively reveal I had nothing to do with the demise of those accounts, convenient or otherwise.

      Unknown: I'm not quite sure what it is you want me to say. I said only yesterday that I had great concerns about what I'd heard about the sequence of events that led to Mr Salmond's trial. You can't realistically expect me to go much further than that - it's not my place to make allegations against named individuals, and it wouldn't do anyone any good if I did.

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    3. Wings Forward UnitMay 7, 2020 at 2:07 PM

      's OK. You were never the prime suspect.

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    4. Couldn't those accounts have been shut down because Stuart Campbell is an abusive foul mouthed objectionable person found to have been not as accurate in his statements as he'd like folk to believe

      Perhaps if Former FM Salmond had something to say he would, I can't imagine he needs a mutt like Campbell to speak for him, so it's about time the former FM either condemned Campbell or supported him, or maybe he's already condemned Campbell by lodging a complaint with Twitter to shut the numpty up to stop him pumping out garbage and using Mr Salmonds name to do it

      In the end does anybody really care because Alex won't be coming back in the way the conspirators hope he will to lead them to glory, the press would howl with laughter on the front pages of every paper if this was the best Scotland could do was to bring back the guy who failed the last time because he somehow weirdly couldn't get the better of a mindless chump like Alistair Darling or Gordon Brown? Jeez!

      You're on the wrong horsey there conspirators

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    5. Pronouns in bioMay 7, 2020 at 3:05 PM

      If the WoS accounts have been banned because of their opposition to "transgender ideology", how come @Glinner's still up and running? His life revolves around the issue even more than Stu's does.

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    6. Wings Forward UnitMay 7, 2020 at 3:06 PM

      You may find some useful information on this thread of Chris (The Cartoonist) Cairns:

      https://twitter.com/cairnstoon/status/1258334720095653889

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    7. Don't you think that Alex Salmond, the man himself, is big enough and smart enough to outline exactly what was going on? We don't need the Craig Murray's and Rev (fake) Campbell's to pass on second hand info from someone who may in fact just be another Westminster controlled Civil Servant. You know the old divide and conquer brigade.

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    8. ''If the WoS accounts have been banned because of their opposition to "transgender ideology", how come @Glinner's still up and running? His life revolves around the issue even more than Stu's does.''

      Good point and of course his transgender mantra is that it's Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP to blame. Has it not dawned on people yet that Stu Campbell is just conning people? His allegiance changed some time ago. It's clear now that he's just another wee BritNat living in Bath, England who's determined to destroy the independence movement. If you can't see what's going on here you're needing your head looked.

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  7. Some restrictions need to be eased where there is no scientific basis for keeping them in place. Allow people in cities without gardens to sit in a park to read, sun bathe, have a picnic, bird watch, allow the kids play, all has been taken place Glasgow now for weeks already, and police are largely ignoring people doing it, so makes no sense to keep this restrictions going.

    Allow people outside more than once a day, and for duration and activity of there choice within reason, i.e. no team sports etc. Open up public parks that have had there car parks closed, makes no sense for example in Anniesland hearding people along narrow canal path close to there homes where social distancing is all but impossible, but it's the only outdoor space available to them, where there is wide open space often 15 mins drive away, such as the kilpatrick hills and mugdock park.

    Just a more common sense approach, don't treat people like criminals for just wanting to get out and improve there mental well being, that's the first approach the government should take, and it should be put in place today.

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    1. The reason all of that is a terrible idea is not because outdoor transmission is the biggest problem, but because it hopelessly undermines the 'stay at home' message that is so vital to making a lockdown effective. I've no particular problem with the police turning a blind eye to behaviour that is probably relatively harmless, but a blind eye is how it has to work, because as soon as you lift the 'stay at home' messaging you'll have an anything goes funfair and it'll be impossible to prevent different households from mingling with each other.

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    2. You can see that clearly with the VE parties being reported by the BBC. Many weren't keeping their distance. Get everyone into the May Day weekend party mood and hey-ho off they go.

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  8. The Brexit Britnat turds made the UK an international laughing stock over a period of years trying to get Brexit done.

    The Brexit Britnat turds are now turning the UK into the world's killing fields. Not a laughing matter but a national disgrace.

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  9. and if by magic thats exactly what the FM has just said: Changes to exercise rule of once a day being considered The only change the first minister will reconsider in the near future and that is a change to the guidance limiting outdoor exercise to once only. She says the government is already considering this, on the strict conditions you remain in your household group, 2m away from others and stay reasonably close to your own home. Ms Sturgeon says she will report back on this in the next few days, but the once a day rule remains in place for now.

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    1. She said the exact same thing at Tuesday's press conference when she realeased the latest update of the framework for decison making.

      It is section A of that document so is not new.

      "In line with current evidence that outdoor activity poses less risk of transmission of the virus than indoor activity, we are considering if and how we could make changes to allow people to leave their home more often and/or for longer.

      This would still involve staying in their local area, staying within their own household group (or any extension of this that may be permitted in future), maintaining physical distancing from those not part of their own household, and maintaining good hygiene at all times.

      We will also consider whether the evidence supports any changes to the restrictions on certain outdoor work activities, provided that associated safe working practices are in place."

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  10. All sides aren't happy, the conspirators aren't happy, the press isn't happy, the opposition isn't happy

    The First Minister must be getting everything spot on as usual when all the eejits are miserable

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    1. Wings Forward UnitMay 7, 2020 at 3:08 PM

      Dissidents BAAAAAAAAD!!

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    2. The conspirators in the SNP and Scotgov certainly are not happy because their criminal plan to send Salmond to jail has failed and they know their time in power is coming to an end.

      PS I am referring to the men involved as well as the complainers known as the alphabet sisters and of course the other civil servants involved eg Evans.

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    3. That's not what Alex Salmond says it's just what some people using his name to promote themselves say
      Maybe it would be a good idea to wait and see what Alex Salmond actuall says about anything before believing everything some blogger on the Internet says because he's got a thing for hating Nicola Sturgeon or maybe because somebody's paying him to do it

      George Galloway was paid Nigel Farage was paid, there's a whole list of subversive bampots paid to do all sorts of things, do you know where Boris Johnsons five million quid to be paid out to Internet bloggers went, maybe some of it came to the blogger from Bath , you don't know because you don't know the blogger from Bath, and funnily enough you could count on the fingers of one hand anybody in Scotland who ever has met him

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    4. I think you give the man from Bath ammunition by just mentioning him. His site is full of bampots just like most Nat si sites.

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    5. Bathman (The Bald Avenger)May 7, 2020 at 7:30 PM

      Kneel down, cr@ppy boy.

      Didn't you realise that Kelly was the good cop?

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    6. Anonymous - get real.

      A retrospective new process targeted on Scotgov Ministers. Did a blogger make up the result of the judicial review - no - the Scotgov through in the towel in the case before certain people were forced to perjure themselves or admit the truth.

      You are living in la la land.

      GWC - of course on this site there are just Britnat turds.

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    7. Unknown
      You're making the schoolboy error of not knowing which Scottish government you're talking about, there are two, there's the representatives you vote for who try to carry out the policies you elect them on and there's the other Scottish government who implement policy and those people don't work for the Scottish government as most people understand it, those people answer to the UK government and the Scottish government but are selected in their employment by the UK government and the Scotland office

      Throwing around accusations using another persons name as backup seems odd when the principal person Alex Salmond has said nothing

      So Prince Charles has one big long toe that's green, there I just said that and I have secret evidence to prove it and I'm not asking you for money to reveal it to the nation

      I'm waiting for Prince Charles to write a book or make a TV appearance to tell us different, do you believe that, because there's virtually no difference in what I just did and what people who want to bring down the SNP would do, they would tell you a lie and how do you know any different

      You don't, and you don't even know any of the people involved, you are an easy mark for a con, and please send them lots of your money to their banks in England because you have so much trust in them, I'm sure they're all wonderful people

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    8. GWC
      I'm sure the Jewish community in Scotland will be shocked to discover that most of them are voting for Nazis since they switched their votes from the Labour and Conservative parties when they found out who the actual real Nazis are

      And they should know they've spent a lot of time and lives avoiding your kind of people

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    9. You Nat sis would prefer Jews did not exist on our planet never mind who they choose to vote for. You must be sad the Nazis did not finish them off.

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    10. Anonymous you are posting a lot of shit so I guess you are a Britnat turd.

      Ps there is only one Scottish government - to say otherwise marks you out as a diddy or someone who could not answer my point so you deflect.

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    11. You cannot answer to the Unknown.

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    12. Covidia only answers to its Tory overlords. Staunch.

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    13. Strange how it hasn't seemed to enter anyone's mind that Stuart Campbell and for that matter Craig Murray have been nobbled by MI5 or the Libdem party that they both support. If I was leading the fight from London against the independence movement in Scotland they'd be the first people I'd be chasing after to bribe and / or blackmail.

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  11. Just compare this shitshaw that's happening now in the UK with how the whole thing's been done in other countries. Italy, France, Spain, Germany, Norway, Ireland (insert any other European country here) - clear messaging. new rules known weeks ahead before they happen, test, trace and isolate strategy in place and being followed.
    UK - total confusion, briefings from No10 to select tabloids, right-wing tabloids cheering for the lockdown to end, no-one knows what (if any) regulations there will be when the lockdown's loosened, people won't know on Sunday whether they'll be called to work on Monday (workers have been sent texts this week that they have to be on stand-by as they might be called back to work on Monday), by far the highest daily number of new cases in Europe, by far the highest daily death toll in Europe, testing's happening just for the sake of testing, no tracing and isolating being done at all.
    Just think that what's happening in Norway and Denmark now could have been Scotland were we not chained to Westminster. Our lockdown could have already been eased to the point where it would've allowed us to lead relatively normal lives if we'd been able to actually follow proper science form the beginning like other countries and not Cummings' sort of science.

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  12. The number of new cases each week per 100,000 population would seem to be a useful guage of how safe it is to start relaxing some measures of lockdown restrictions.

    Angela Merkel has included a "brake" in her easing of the lockdown, it is being done on a regional basis as you would expect but if in any locality the new cases per week exceed 50 per 100,000 population then that locality will once again put put into strict lockdown.

    Now have a look at the linear graphs for Germany, Italy, Spain, France and compare for where the UK is currently with numbers of new cases. It is clear the UK is not yet ready and in fact looks to have a good way to go before safely easing restrictions.

    Have a play around on this graph with any countries you like for comparisons.

    http://macroflow.org/corona/

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    1. Interesting graph. But everyone please note that the vertical scale is logarithmic, so apparently-small differences between curves can indicate large actual numerical differences, not least in the upper regions.

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    2. Sorry, the default is power, not log. But similar applies. You can select linear instead, though. Cool.

      (Check out Brazil for really how not to go about it!)

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    3. Glad you noticed the user can change the scale, the main thing for me is where the likes of Germany and Spain are in new cases per day before even attempting to relax the lockdown.

      If the UK got to around 1000 new cases a day then maybe there might be some justification provided you have other supressing measures such as track and trace up and running/

      While it's running at 6000/day and has barely dropped in weeks would not be a good time and no relaxation of the lockdown that is of any substance will be happening anytime soon is my opinion.

      Even Dominic Cummings can read a graph!

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    4. Definately advise using a linear scale when comparing large EU countries.

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    5. Agreed.

      As an interesting excursion, do everyone try selecting Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland (while removeing all the originals). See what difference a policy really can make.

      Meanwhile the usual suspects make all sorts of counterfactual claims about such matters in their "remove lockdown now!" push on the ScotGov's new "ideas" website...

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  13. The Britnat journalist turds pressurising Sturgeon to not deviate from the UK approach shows that saving the Union is more important to them than saving lives in Scotland.

    Boris has made a total bollocks of the virus epidemic so in any reasonable non Britnat world these journalists should be begging Sturgeon not to follow what Johnston is doing. But no Britnat turds to their core each and every one of these MSM journalists(propagandists).

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    1. But it's Johnson proposing England deviate from Scotland.

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    2. Yes, without even asking any of the leaders of the devolved governments for their input. The decision is his to go his own way. Especially if they change the key message of Stay Home etc which all the countries are using.

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    3. Yes, the English press get told about it (unless it's the other way round, like it was with Broon), Jacksaw Carlot gets told about it, but the devolved governments just have to get in line and patiently wait until BoJo makes his Grand Pronouncement in a couple of days' time.

      Meanwhile, just get out your plastic Spitfires and Union Flags, singalong with Vera Lynn, and be jolly glad you're being treated as "loved and respected" "leaders not leavers".

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  14. Haupt Ian Duncan ShmittMay 7, 2020 at 4:40 PM

    Ihr Shotten bekommt keine Handzettel von uns Deutschen. Bleib beim Englander, du pounces.

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    1. Was ist denn das für ein Quatsch, Covidia?

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    2. GWC talks aboot the Nazis all the time, and speaks good German.

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    3. Vielen dank an meinen Skifahrer, den Hauptman des schottischen.
      Faschismus Lagerwache in neuen Schottland

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    4. Always knew Covidia was on the same side as the Dreary Heil.
      Snivelling Britnatsi.

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  15. I'm totally torn here. I'm being financially crippled with this virus and I'm desperate to get earning again but the thought of more life's being lost unnecessarily chills my soul.

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    1. Hi Kenny. Very sorry about your personal situation, and thanks for your understanding. I wish you well, and hopefully you'll get out of lockdown before too much longer.

      Some of us though have to face the prospect of continuing to hunker down until a viable vaccine comes along, maybe in a year or so, to finally release us from this jail.

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    2. Get out of your beds and get your hands of your cocks and put your socks on. Get the Jarrow march going towards Perth and Kinross and pick fruit like good patriotic Jocks should do.

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    3. The Grandstanding (self-identifying) Willywaggling Cretin once again resorts to the last refuge of the scoundrel.

      Oh, and as for your pseudo-German utterances, diese sind reine Mist, weisst Du nicht? (Skier was being sarcastic, but you missed it, I expect.) You're as incompetent at that as with everything else. What an wonderful advert for moronic BritNattery.

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    4. I assume you sleep with Skier and know his inners.

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    5. Stench of Covidia. No wonder it can't persuade any of its masters to pay it for its screams of impotent rage.

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  16. James/Skier. Have you noticed that the media video links with the cognisenty have most of them sitting in front of their library shelves.

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  17. Something you'll never be accused of or you'd be able to spell

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    1. Ah one of you knew the cognisenty innat. Seems you Jocks are not all daft.

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    2. Covidia is proud of its ignorance. Ignorance keeps it obedient.

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  18. So many people find it difficult to say “England “
    It’s a simple word
    It’s easy to say

    Why do you keep saying U.K. want to do different to Scotland ?
    It can’t be U.K. if it doesn’t include Scotland
    U.K. without Scotland = England

    Just damn well say England

    It’s england that wants to have magic Monday not U.K.
    Westminster is NOT acting as a U.K. government they are acting as England’s government
    Same as they did during brexit

    Weegingerdug and followers do the same they continually say U.K. or Britain or British when what they mean is england or English

    Why so frightened to say it as it is

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    1. There are 21 mentions of the UK on this page prior to this post. 6 of them are from tweets in the article that has been posted, 2 of them are from links on the RHS. 1 of them is yours.

      That leaves 12, can you be a bit more explicit of the ones where you think England would have been a more appropriate term to use rather than UK.

      Looking forward to all your examples of such.

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    2. Hahaha, just read your whole crap post. SIX mentions out of the 21 mentions of UK are by YOU.

      So that leaves 7 for you to look at and explain why the poster should have used England instead.

      Take your time LOL

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    3. Thepnr, do you have any function in your life besides pish and excrement?

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    4. Yeah, go swirl.
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    5. Looks like you were pushing an anal suppority up your chorus.

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    6. Covidia really needs to stop sharing its fantasy life on here.
      There's a whole internet out there for it to tell its stories of degradation.

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  19. Alistair Campbell of Tony Blair fame wants the government to talk to the people honestly. That must be the quote of the century. The people are far ahead of the politicians and their spin doctors. Lock down must continue.

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    1. Covidia will do as its Tory overlords instruct. It is obedient. Staunch.

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    2. Are you still hingin aboot the St Vincent Place lavvie.

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    3. Covidia really should find somewhere else to project its tales of degradation and public humiliation. I'm given to understand that are entire sections of the internet where someone might pay for them. This is in contrast to Covidia's inability to find funding for its trolling activities.

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  20. It is pretty obvious to us peasants that as afar as the Tories and Yoons go we are expendable.

    I might not like the lock-down as I am now losing money but I think when it comes to saving lives then it must stay and if Butcher Johnson and his Psycho Yoons loosen the lock-down in England then I think the SNP should close the border to save Scottish lives.

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