Thursday, March 27, 2025

Support for independence increases by two percentage points in heartening new YouGov poll

First of all, what a terrible shock about Christina McKelvie.  I know all our thoughts will be with her family and friends over the coming days and weeks.

There's a full-scale Scottish poll out from YouGov today - it doesn't have any Holyrood or Westminster voting intention numbers, but it does have independence numbers and a bonanza of interesting supplementary questions.  

Should Scotland be an independent country?  (YouGov, 17th-21st March 2025)

Yes 46% (+2)
No 54% (-2)

Normally we'd be a bit disappointed by a 46-54 split, but a recovery is a recovery and this is quite a heartening one.  Remember that YouGov are consistently one of the most No-friendly pollsters, and we've seen many times before that a YouGov poll showing a moderate No lead can easily be conducted at roughly the same time as an Ipsos telephone poll showing a decent Yes lead.  So whether Yes or No is in the lead may well just boil down to the question of which polling firm has the most credible methodology.

Net ratings for politicians:

John Swinney (SNP): -14
Nicola Sturgeon (SNP): -16
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Liberal Democrats): -20
Russell Findlay (Conservatives): -21
Kate Forbes (SNP): -22
Patrick Harvie (Greens): -24
Lorna Slater (Greens): -27
Anas Sarwar (Labour): -29
Keir Starmer (Labour): -36
Humza Yousaf (SNP): -37
Douglas Ross (Conservatives): -41
Kemi Badenoch (Conservatives): -44
Nigel Farage (Reform UK): -54

This is an unusually inclusive and helpful list, because it allows us to make some kind of assessment of whether the SNP is better off with John Swinney than with his predecessors.  It's no surprise to learn that the party is in a far better place due to having replaced Humza Yousaf with Mr Swinney, but the comparison with Nicola Sturgeon is a more complex one.  Mr Swinney does have a better net rating than her, but only just, and her reputation seems to have recovered markedly due to the police clearing her of wrongdoing.  And few would doubt that she always has been, and always will be, a more fluent and charismatic speaker than Mr Swinney.  But there's also always going to be a lot of baggage with her (not least the toxic war with Alex Salmond's supporters), so on balance it may be for the best that we're definitively turning the page on the Sturgeon era.

Every political party has a net negative rating, and the SNP's rating is a tad worse than the Lib Dems' and the Greens' - but the crucial point is that it's significantly better than Labour's.  With the SNP having a more popular leadership than Labour, and with the SNP collectively being a more popular party than Labour, it's not hard to see why next year's election is now the SNP's to lose.

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I gather Ash Regan declined to speak yesterday after her narrow defeat in the Alba leadership election was announced, and the last time I checked she hadn't tweeted either.  McEleny, meanwhile, has been laying out an alternative blueprint for how a small party like Alba should conduct itself, rather than doing the normal thing in this situation of falling in behind the leadership team that has only just been elected.  

When I suggested a few weeks ago that Ms Regan might follow McEleny out of the Alba Party altogether, most people reacted with scepticism.  Time will tell, but I'd just note that if you were preparing the ground for a formal split, you'd probably behave in exactly the way that McEleny and Ms Regan have been doing over the last 30 hours or so.

30 comments:

  1. Very encouraging to see support for independence up to 46%.

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    1. That's what I just said, KC. Your trolling has always been redundant, but rarely more so than in this case.

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  2. It is almost exactly the figures that YouGov have been reporting for over 2 years, very minor fluctuations but nothing more than could be explained by the +/- 3% that all these polls have.

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    1. Sure, but 44% was unusually low, so a drop to that level meant a possibility that something had genuinely changed for the worse. A rebound to 46% eases those concerns.

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  3. The 2 recent YouGov polls give No leads of 11% and 9%, according to Wikipedia.


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    1. Wrong figures. I've explained this so often it's getting boring now. If there's a link to the YouGov data tables, click the link and at the very top you'll see the correct headline numbers: Yes 46%, No 54%.

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    2. Indeed.
      Slight improvement on the 2014 referendum result, which is good.

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  4. This may be an impossible question to answer, but is there any indication on what active campaining on independence would have on polling figures?

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  5. Is it unusual that the same poll found a net -18 for the SNP but only a net -15 for the Liberal Democrats? (and the Greens)

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  6. Quite a difference between these two YouGov polls and the recent Find Out Now polls.
    Hopefully the Find Out Now figures are more accurate, and show the true picture.

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  7. Cole Hamilton only -20? What? Did they only ask people on mind altering substances?

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    1. He's what my granny calls a f***ing craphound. Granny will be 74 in May and has never met anybody with a double surname who wasn't a fu***ng shitbag.

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  8. Swinney only -14 ?????

    Sturgeon only -16 ???????????????????

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  9. I see the Bath Balloon has just released his latest wee edict.

    NO surprise that 'SNP MUST BE DESTROYED/BURIED' is the main theme........yet again.

    Salmond gets praised as if he was a Diety, but Alba hardly merits a passing mention.

    Campbell also praises the effectiveness of Brexit Party/Reform UK and one is his regular contributors states that not only should the SNP be booted out of power, but that Holyrood itself should be shut down.

    If ANYONE on the Yes Side STILL 'believes' in his nihilistic 'Burn Down Everything' shite, they are as totally fucked-up and moronic as that utter Cretin.

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    1. I like the bit where Campbell finally comes out to tell his Salvo-minded followers why he doesn’t support them and never mentions their alternate path to independence. He should have deigned to answer them long before now, but it is as I expected.

      Mind, I don’t disagree with him. Anyone who honestly thinks “the UN” will step in and administer Indyref2 for us against the will of the UK and the SNP is a bit… yeah…

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    2. Campbell is nothing but self-important, nihilistic wee slug.

      I have supported Indy for over 40 years and I know that it will be an extremely uphill task to overcome all the massive 'legal' impediments placed against it by the British State and achieve that goal.

      For all its many faults, it still is the political party called SNP which has the best, and probably only, chance to get us there.

      It will certainly NOT be anything which comes from 'the oracle' of Campbell or his tiny bunch of brainless sycophants.

      Campbell, as far as I am aware, has also never even admitted that Israel is committing a Genocide in Gaza, when most rational folk and the vast majority of Countries on the Planet already know that is a fact.

      The more I hear from that twat, the more similarities I see with Farage's and Badenoch's type of Trash, many of whom seem to infest his own site.

      As much use to the Yes Movement as a bowl of cold vomit.

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    3. Robin McAlpine for President!
      Oh, wait, Rev. Stuart Campbell for President!
      Ah, there again, Craig Murray for President!

      Errr, no thanks.

      Buckaroo for President! Ah, now you're talking!

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  10. RIP Christina.

    What really stuck out to me in the tables were opinions among people who voted Labour last year. Among people who voted Labour last year 43% to 38% say they don't have confidence in them to make the right decisions for the Scottish economy and 69% to 22% about the NHS. 34% also have an unfavourable opinion of the party as a whole against 58% positive. Starmer is only viewed well 49% to 45% and Sarwar 40% to 33%. Given they are a brand new government that had not been in power for a long time and won a landslide less than a year ago that seems very bad going indeed.

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    1. The official line you’ll hear from them in the media and their membership too: “globally, incumbents are suffering.”

      The reality the more honest of them realise: they’re being run by a death cult. Starmer is their Liz Truss.

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    2. I got these figures mixed up, the economy and NHS figures are 54 to 38 and 51 to 39.

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    3. Labour did not win a landslide. Their vote numbers were relatively low. An undemocratic electoral system gave them a large majority. Notwithstanding this, it’s the probable opposition by their own M Ps that is the indicator of their rapid fall.

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  11. The repeat shit ad nauseum poster is giving us all a break. Come back in two weeks. Try and get a life in the meantime

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  12. 10.01….nonsensical rubbish.

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  13. Eat your cereal.

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  14. Wee reminder;


    Average of last half-dozen Indy Polls prior to this one - Yes 51 No 49.

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    1. Dave Francis is obviously one of the fools who take Find Out Now polls seriously.

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    2. Polls are irrelevant when there is no plan to restore Independence.

      No process = No point.

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  15. As the net ratings for all politicians included in the poll are firmly negative it's a clear case of ' we don't trust any of ye!'.

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