Sunday, September 22, 2024

Survation poll confirms that Labour have lost their lead in Scotland - and suggests the Scottish public wants Devo Max

When the Opinium poll came out the other day showing the SNP seven points ahead, I did raise the possibility that the SNP might have been flattered due to an Opinium house effect, because a couple of previous Opinium polls had also been unusually favourable.  I didn't think that was likely, but I may have to revisit that verdict because I now realise that a Survation poll also came out on Wednesday and showed the SNP and Labour roughly level-pegging.  Nevertheless, that's still a good news story for the SNP, even if it's on a more modest scale than Opinium.  

I really can't emphasis this enough for people who haven't previously looked at polling trends immediately after a general election.  What would usually be happening at this stage is that there would be considerable novelty surrounding the new government - the people who had elected it would be euphoric, and the people who did not elect it would be influenced by that euphoria and some of them would even start thinking that they made a mistake or were too cautious and should have voted in line with the tide.  That would generally push the winning party further ahead in the opinion polls than they were on polling day.  It's a temporary effect but it can usually be expected to last at least a good few months. 

With the added factor that a lot of people seem to be a bit jaded with the SNP government in Edinburgh, it would have been entirely reasonable to expect a Labour lead over the SNP of anything between about 8 and 20 points at this stage.  Instead, Labour have lost their lead entirely, which speaks volumes about just how dreadful Starmer's first few weeks in office have been, and bodes extremely poorly for Anas Sarwar's hopes of becoming First Minister in two years' time.

Scottish voting intentions for the next UK general election (Survation):

SNP 31%
Labour 31%
Conservatives 14%
Reform UK 11%
Liberal Democrats 9%
Greens 3%
Alba 1%

Scottish Parliament constituency ballot:

SNP 31%
Labour 31%
Conservatives 13%
Reform UK 9%
Liberal Democrats 8%
Greens 6%
Alba 1%

Scottish Parliament regional list ballot:

SNP 28%
Labour 26%
Conservatives 14%
Reform UK 10%
Greens 10%
Liberal Democrats 10%
Alba 3%

Seats projection: SNP 40, Labour 39, Conservatives 17, Liberal Democrats 13, Greens 10, Reform UK 10

Survation's data tables round the numbers to two decimal places, and for what it's worth on that measure the SNP have a slight lead across the board: they're 30.93% to 30.76% ahead of Labour on the Holyrood constituency ballot, and 31.16% to 30.80% ahead of Labour in Westminster voting intentions.

The independence numbers are less good than in the Opinium or More In Common polls, but nevertheless Survation becomes one of three out of four pollsters who in anniversary week have shown the Yes vote higher than it was in 2014.

Should Scotland be an independent country?

Yes 46%
No 54%

Survation's client for this poll was Progress Scotland, the organisation run by Angus Robertson.  They've taken a leaf out of my book on this occasion - maybe not intentionally, but it's almost identical to something I did in a Scot Goes Pop / Panelbase poll around four years ago when I asked a simple question about whether Scotland should rejoin the European Union, without specifying whether that would be as an independent country.  I think that's a really useful question, because it forces unionist respondents to answer about what they think should happen to Scotland in particular, rather than the UK as whole, while also allowing them to leave their views on independence to one side.  The pro-European majority this time is even stronger than it was in the Scot Goes Pop poll.

If there was a referendum on membership of the European Union tomorrow, how would you vote on the question: "Should Scotland join the European Union?"

Scotland should join the European Union: 69%
Scotland should not join the European Union: 31%

I know that a non-trivial minority of independence campaigners have misgivings about the EU and hanker after decoupling the independence cause from pro-Europeanism, but when you look at figures like the ones above, it's hard not to conclude that it would be strategically foolish to go down that road, and that if anything, the SNP should be ramping up the pro-EU message and trying to tap into anger about Brexit and Scotland's will being ignored.  Only 20% of Yes voters from 2014 would vote against Scotland joining the EU, while an extraordinary 54% of No voters want back into the EU.

Also encouraging is that by substantial margins, respondents think the Scottish Parliament and not Westminster should have control over pensions, taxation, the cost of living, energy policy, public transport, crime, human rights, employment rights, relations with Europe, the environment, immigration, social security, and the calling of any independence referendum.  The only exceptions, ie. policy areas where respondents prefer Westminster control, are national security and foreign policy - and on the latter the margin is pretty narrow.

In a nutshell, this is a population that strongly favours Devo Max - the genuine type, not the Jackie Bird version.

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20 comments:

  1. When are we going to get independence polls which only report the numbers from native scots?

    No foreigners will ever be allowed another vote on our country. Not after they betrayed us the last time.

    So why bother counting them?

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  2. In regards to the EU question, couldn't the Yes side just guarantee that there will be a referendum on the issue after independence?

    Obviously, highlight that Scotland was dragged out of the EU against our will, the anger surrounding that and that the only viable way back in would be via independence. But instead of focusing on a Yes vote meaning rejoining the EU, the emphasis should be on the fact that, with independence the decision would be up to the people of Scotland.

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    1. I don't think that would be enough. If you're going to convince a Remainer who hitherto has been a committed No, you'll need to tell them that the *purpose* of independence is to rejoin the EU.

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    2. That's my reckon, too. For those people not already convinced about independence, you want to be more specific than "well, we can always settle that later on for ourselves."

      I actually consider that very power to be independence's top advantage: the fact that we can always revisit our decisions, at whatever time of our choosing. But I’m in the bag for Yes so by all means target those who are on the fence.

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  3. Devo Max will never be a viable option tbh. The UK Government would perceive that as just being a trap used as a stepping stone towards full independence.

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    1. Absolutely, for the UK Government, it's all about stopping independence, rather than giving voters what they want and what they vote for. But the danger is that the pro-Devo Max majority will realise that voting for independence is the only way of getting what they want.

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  4. If those seat projections came to pass what viable Government options would there be?

    SNP + Green leaves them 10 short and it's unlikely any of the unionist Parties will support the SNP remaining in power.

    Labour + Lib Dems + Tories does get them over the line in this poll but in practice how will that work day-to-day and would they be able to agree on a Budget?

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    1. Labour governing from second place due to Tory support would be a public relations catastrophe. They wouldn't be able to hide what was going on.

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  5. What is UK Labour & Scots Labour’s position on DevoMax? Or has the SNP’s poor GE result pushed that issue down the list?

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  6. Yes 46%
    No 54%. !!!!!

    But we keep getting told that independence is the “settled will” !!!!!!!!!

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  7. Surely rather than independence being pro or anti Europe it should be neutral? "When we have independence Scotland will decide for itself whether to continue as is or seek to rejoin the European Union."

    It's a weaker statement than either camp would want, but should be acceptable to both, rather than making independence subject to a potentially confounding factor.

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    1. The currency issue would be cleared up if EU.

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    2. Not necessarily the EU requires new member states to adopt the Euro once they meet certain economic and convergence criteria.

      Scotland would likely need to establish its own currency first to align with the necessary economic policies and frameworks before transitioning to the Euro.

      It raises a lot of uncertainties and questions unionists will jump on.

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    3. Anon@5:52pm,
      Ah currency, one of the many important issues the SNP and Yes movement in general have never been able to address in a positive way.

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    4. Are people proposing there would be no referendum on EU membership?

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  8. In all sets of figures the nationalist share of the vote struggles to get to 40%. This seems to be the case in all polls nowadays.
    Surely this has to be greatly concerning.

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    1. I’d have to agree.
      Plus, the numbers on the indy question in this poll are particularly disappointing.

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  9. I was looking at the approval tables in the poll and there is a puzzling result which if I was still in ALBA I would be trying to figure out.

    Favourability
    Salmond: - 47
    Farage: -42

    Trustworthiness
    Salmond: -45
    Farage: -39

    Shares ideals and values
    Salmond: -42
    Farage: -43

    Favourablity Parties
    ALBA: -46
    Reform: -43

    Voting intention for the Holyrood list vote
    ALBA: 3% (2.67%)
    Reform: 10% (9.97%)

    Do you have a theory as to why Farage and Reform who are not much different in (un) popularity than Salmond and ALBA are polling almost four times the list vote % of ALBA?

    Why would this be?


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    1. The reason is that more people like Reform policies than ALBA policies.

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