Saturday, June 17, 2023

The growing gap between independence support and SNP support means that a de facto referendum has undoubtedly become the smart strategic call for the SNP at this stage - even when viewed only through the prism of self-interest and careerism

Both The Times and The National are reporting that Humza Yousaf appears to be reverting to Nicola Sturgeon's policy of a de facto independence referendum, based on language he used in an email to SNP members trying to sell the remaining tickets for the special independence conference.  I would be only too delighted if that was true, but my strong sense is that it's a fundamental misreading of what he's said, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if The National are invited to publish a "clarification" before the day is out.  The language about a vote for the SNP being a vote for independence is pretty much identical to what he was saying a week ago when both he and Jamie Hepburn were being scathing about any route to independence that doesn't involve a Section 30 order, so I can't detect much sign (or any sign at all) of a change of heart.  Probably the idea is that SNP votes will be interpreted as evidence of public backing for independence, in the same way that Tory votes can be interpreted as general support for conservatism, and Labour votes under Starmer can be interpreted as general support for some kind of Frankenstein's monster of syncretic authoritarianism.  But the sole purpose of demonstrating that support for independence will just be to continue with the endless futility of begging for a Section 30 order.

A true de facto referendum is an election in which the manifesto states "if we and our allies secure an absolute majority of the popular vote, Scotland will have decided to become an independent country and we will then invite the UK government to negotiate an independence settlement with us".  There's no mention of a Section 30 order or a referendum, because the election *is* the referendum and no further vote is required.  Now, it's true that the unprecedented leverage that we would accrue from Scotland having voted for the first time to become an independent country might well force the UK government into a negotiation that results in a referendum as a compromise.  That's fine, we live in the real world and sometimes political obstacles can only be removed by means of dialogue and imperfect trade-offs.  But at the point at which you actually seek the mandate, it's important to be crystal-clear about what the intended purpose of the mandate is.  If all anyone hears is "what we really want is a Section 30 order", no-one - not the UK Government, not the media, not the voters, no-one - will actually treat a successful outcome as a genuine mandate for independence, and you'll never have the leverage in the first place.  You'll also have a much harder job persuading independence supporters to vote for you if they're not convinced they're really voting for independence.

When Nicola Sturgeon first committed the SNP to the de facto referendum policy, it was widely reported that many SNP parliamentarians at Westminster were furious about it.  I'm not sure it was ever clearly explained what their problem with it was, but there are two logical explanations.  The most charitable one is that they were worried about the effect on the independence cause itself, ie. they thought the 50% + 1 target wouldn't be achieved and that as a result independence would be off the agenda for decades.  We can put that worry to rest now, because the penny has dropped even for the formerly arch-plebiscite-election-sceptic Pete Wishart, who now realises that the beauty of using elections to seek an independence mandate is that there's no such thing as a generational defeat.  If you fall a few percentage points short in any given election, you can just try again at the next election.  There can be as many de facto referendums as there are scheduled elections.

The less charitable explanation is that they were worried for their own careers and were stuck in a scared-of-their-own-shadows 2017-style mindset of thinking that the way to shore up the SNP vote is to talk about independence as little as possible and to make independence seem as distant as possible.  Well, if that made any sense at all last year when Nicola Sturgeon first adopted the de facto referendum plan, it certainly doesn't make any sense now.  The SNP vote has since dropped sharply while support for independence has held up or possibly even increased.  In the Savanta poll yesterday, independence support was at 49% while the SNP were only on 38% in Westminster voting intentions - a gap of eleven points.  There are clearly substantial numbers of pro-Yes, ex-SNP votes out there, mostly in the Labour column, which can be won back by giving people the chance to vote directly for independence, and that frankly won't be won back in any other way.  The clarity of Labour's message of "vote Labour on Thursday, get rid of the Tory government by Friday afternoon" means that the SNP will only be able to compete if their offer is just as clear and captures people's imaginations even more.  "Vote SNP and we'll negotiate independence" will cut it, but "send a message to Westminster", "stronger for Scotland", "standing up for Scotland", "elect a local champion", or any of the other meaningless formulations that have been tried, will not.

And if a de facto referendum only boosts the SNP vote to 43% and not to 51%, so what?  We go again at the following election, and in the meantime scores of pro-independence seats have been saved.  Even from the most hard-headed, cynical, self-interested, careerist point of view, a de facto referendum is undoubtedly the smart strategic choice for the SNP at this stage.

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10 comments:

  1. But Yousaf is the master of double-speak; appear to say one thing and back off if it becomes inconvenient.

    He needs to be pinned down, and pinned down totally unambiguously. or he'll wriggle free again and again and again, like a worm that turned!

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  2. Oh, and Giugliano needs to be sacked, Not the slightest interest in Indy.

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  3. Had enough of SNP 'mis speaks' to quote Sturgeon and obfuscation to quote the rest of humanity. Why does no one ever ask the question? Why do the media settle for the press release without following up? We really do need a new indy news paper, so we can unravel what is actually being said to us.

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    1. To be fair to The National it has often stood alone as a voice of nationalism in an often hostile anti SNP media landscape.

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  4. "A true de facto referendum is an election in which the manifesto states "if we and our allies secure an absolute majority of the popular vote, Scotland will have decided to become an independent country and we will then invite the UK government to negotiate an independence settlement with us"."

    Ideally for me, it'd be the *only* thing the manifesto states. That would leave no ambiguity there at all. You don't need any other policies on a manifesto like that because they would all be for post-independent Scotland to decide.

    I doubt we can trust the SNP to be that ballsy though.

    Doubt they will even be that specific at all, just say something that sounds like it could be a de facto referendum in principle but then deny that's actually what they meant after the votes are cast.

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    1. You’re right it has to be that unambiguous and binary.

      If, say for instance, they also said we’ll build 20 new hospitals then it could be argued that a certain percentage of people voted for the, for the promise of new hospitals.

      So for it to be a true de-facto referendum, it has to be pretty much a single statement manifesto.

      But I agree the SNP are mega unlikely to do that.

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    2. I agree and why I think the smart thing to do is always always always use the UK general election as the defacto vote franchise. I know it's a harder arena in some ways but it allows for a clear manifesto position to take place.

      SNP can never be in power to deliver policies like hospitals at Westminster so the campaign can only be about a discussion of Scotland's place in the UK. It is also the big one where the UK electorate and politicians take the most notice.

      It's really the smart move on so many levels.

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  5. Yousaf is 'at it' when it comes to the independence question. He puts on his indy make up and speaks in the right way but he's a devolutionist at heart. Frankly, it makes no difference to the FM if he reverts to the section 30 plan or goes for de facto ref. Either way, SNP share will fall well short of 50% for as long as he's got any influence and he will get to carry on earning his salary without really achieving anything. The raison d'etre of the careerist politician.

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  6. Man, off topic here but when you read some of the comments in the National against AS you really have to wonder about our chances of getting independence. So many of them don't seem to understand the concept of justice. Not being found guilty means not being guiltySome still go on about how the guy admitted to behaviour unbecoming to a man in his position - flipping Eck (no relation!) he's a man. What man at his age living during that period hasn't pinged a lady's hair and given the woman what would have been described in those days as a complement? Worse, many of the commentators think that there is no solution to the perceived impass between WM and Holyrood. There are ways forward but they require both guts and guile which no one in the present SNP seems to have. Independence is not given, it has to be taken - that is what the supreme court was telling us.

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