Wednesday, August 3, 2016

YouGov poll has a painful message for the Labour plotters - they actually need the radical left if they are to ever win power

One of the main justifications for the moral compromises of Blairism was/is that Labour "have to live in the real world", and can't win elections without putting forward policies that appeal to Middle England.  Well, here's a dose of reality that isn't going to be quite so welcome for the anti-Corbyn plotters : a new YouGov poll provides powerful evidence that the Corbyn wing of the party is not, as the plotters like to tell themselves, a trivial and dispensable part of the Labour coalition that currently wields wildly disproportionate influence.  In fact, there doesn't appear to be any path to victory without the radical left.

YouGov asked hypothetical voting intention questions based on the assumption that Labour would split into two parties, with the Corbyn wing remaining at the helm of one.  No matter which way round the split occurs, the left-led party attracts significant support, and the bulk of it comes from the current Labour vote.  If Corbyn and co retain the Labour brand, they hold on to 21% of the vote, but even if it's assumed that they break away and set up an entirely new party with a new name, they still get 14% - almost half of Labour's support.  In both scenarios, the plotter-led "moderate" centre-left party would receive less than 20% of the vote, and would thus be left in territory familiar to the Liberal Democrats prior to their disastrous decision to install David Cameron in Downing Street.

It's interesting to ponder whether a radical left party could have attracted 14% or 21% of the vote if Corbyn had never become Labour leader.  But even if that support is largely driven by Corbyn's new-found celebrity and status, it doesn't make any concrete difference - the plotters can't wind the clock back and erase the last year from history.  As bad as poll respondents are at answering hypothetical questions, it seems inconceivable based on these findings that "moderate Labour" would not at least suffer a big electoral hit as a result of any split.  The radical left are clearly now an essential part of any winning coalition of Labour voters, and the plotters are therefore going to have to somehow make peace with Corbyn if they mean what they say about being motivated by a single-minded pursuit of victory.  (They don't, of course.)

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Helen Lewis has been castigated in some quarters for dubious claims about the SNP in her latest New Statesman piece about Corbyn, but for my money the silliest part of the article is when she implies that the Labour leader is guilty of hypocrisy for criticising the plotters over their refusal to serve in the Shadow Cabinet, given that he himself declined to serve in Blair's Cabinet.  I'm sorry, but in what reality did Tony Blair ever offer Corbyn a job on the lowest rung of the ministerial ladder, let alone in the Cabinet?  It may well be that Corbyn would have refused to serve even if he had been asked, but you just don't get to score points about the refusal of a job offer that was never made, and would never have been made in a million years.

148 comments:

  1. Corbyn stood for election to the Shadow Cabinet when Blair was Leader of the opposition. He didn't get on, but at least he indicated willingness to serve.

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    1. Yup! He came last. Second-last was Dennis Canavan. Oddly, despite getting this treatment, the lefties didn't start weeping or threaten to split the party.

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    2. Boris Gump and the BrexitearsAugust 5, 2016 at 8:36 PM

      Wings Over Scotland ‏@WingsScotland · 36 minutes ago

      Scotland bucks UK trend with no rise in reported hate crime in wake of Brexit vote http://archive.is/uX2It

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    3. Boris Gump and the BrexitearsAugust 5, 2016 at 8:50 PM

      Kamal Ahmed ‏@bbckamal · Aug 4

      Carney: more than a quarter of a million people are now forecast to lose their jobs

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    4. Boris Gump and the BrexitearsAugust 5, 2016 at 8:56 PM

      Mhairi Hunter ‏@MhairiHunter · Aug 3

      Every part of the UK economy is now shrinking post-Brexit http://read.bi/2atPmB8 via @BIUK_Finance

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    5. Boris Gump and the BrexitearsAugust 5, 2016 at 8:58 PM

      Alistair Davidson ‏@moh_kohn · Aug 3

      UK economy is nosediving and article 50 hasn't even been triggered yet. Is it even possible to pull that trigger, set off capital flight?

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    6. Incompetent Blairites of Mass Destruction #ChickenCoupAugust 5, 2016 at 9:01 PM

      Éoin ‏@LabourEoin · 11h


      2007 when Blair was PM, Chakrabarti was awarded a CBE & appointed to a commission on Security. Not a peep from press

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    7. The SNP ‏@theSNP · Aug 2

      A £200k fund has been set up to encourage disabled people to stand for election.

      http://news.scotland.gov.uk/News/Fund-for-aspiring-politicians-27e5.aspx

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  2. Please... for the love of god. Ditch blogspot and move to something else. The last article comments section was an absolute joke.

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    1. Agreed, would contribute to a funder.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 8:18 PM

      And you were the main contributor.

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    3. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 4, 2016 at 8:56 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

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  3. I'd like to second the remarks above. Some of the discussions are very informative and thought provoking...........until the eejit joins in. Then it's a case of endless scrolling. Some have tried to drown it out with repetitive put-downs, but that has made him/her/it worse. If it is an issue of money, try suggesting a mini-crowdfunding to finance another platform? I know I'd be happy to contribute, because this blog is a twice-a-day visit for me, but the resident eejit is a major turn off.
    Alex Birnie

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    1. I absolutely agree. Besides this blog is really important to Scottish politics and deserves a better platform, in addition to needing to lose the eejit who has become a real annoyance, interfering with discussion. I would certainly contribute.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 10:20 AM

      There is a real fool a liar and eejit on here who uses repetitive comments but never answers any allegations made regarding the Nat si party. Eg: the Nat sis continue with Thatcherite policies.
      And why are the Nat sis bothered about Labour!. The Scottish people are not left wing and never have been. Labour in its present situation is a gift to the Tartan and Blue Tories. Since the 2008 recession and the collapse of the banks the people have not turned to an alternative socialist left but just the opposite.

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    3. The invertebrate doesn't even have sufficient courage in its convictions to come straight out and call us what it thinks we are - fascists and Nazis. Instead, it snivels about being picked on by "fash Nat sis".

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    4. If the troll dislikes being called to account for the offensive nonsense it spouts, the Torrance manoeuvre is available.

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    5. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 6:33 PM

      Are you an Echo!

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    6. The troll also advocates arming Leave campaigners to "defend democracy", claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming they're not insults, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

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    7. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 8:10 PM

      You should relax, try some quantative easing and release your potencial.

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    8. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 4, 2016 at 8:33 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

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    9. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 9:03 PM

      I did praise May for accepting the brexit vote as she was against brexit. However the rest of your piss is lies Nat si bhoy.

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    10. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 4, 2016 at 9:26 PM

      Anyone can easily check scotgoespop to see for themselves you are a pathetic little racist twat who has said every single one of those things and that it is you who is the obviously lying. As usual.

      Not to mention that fact that you are a complete fucking imbecile of a troll who nobody on here will ever believe or trust for a second.

      But if you whine a little louder like a cowardly shitebag I'm sure everyone will suddenly treat you seriously and not mock you for being the repulsive, thick as pigshit, racist troll you so clearly are. Or not. LOL!

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    11. If the troll dislikes being called to account for the offensive nonsense it spouts, the Torrance manoeuvre is available.

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    12. "some have tried to drown it out with repetitive put-downs, but that has made him/her/it worse."

      Factually incorrect. He was ignored for hours today and carried on just the same as he has always done, with or without being called out for his racist hate-speech.

      People have no time for racists or liars no matter which popular scottish blog you care to name or frequent.

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    13. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 10:15 PM

      Let them check you are a Nat si liar scumbag piece of shit. Chin Chin.

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    14. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 4, 2016 at 10:18 PM

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  4. I think the painful message is that Labour appears to need the plotters as well - or at least prevent them from splitting. If there's a split, any split, 13 to 15% of the vote will go with the splitters.

    However, what's interesting is that however the party splits, their combined vote share should creep up(by harvesting Lib and UKIP votes). Too bad it's not a proportional system.

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    1. Incompetent Blairites of Mass Destruction #ChickenCoupAugust 4, 2016 at 12:09 PM

      The ChickenCoup plotters would get annihilated at the polls if they split.

      That is crystal clear. They wouldn't win a seat.

      Precisely who in the PLP is going to follow the ChickenCoup Plotters off a cliff (with 4% support of the electorate) even if they did have the balls to split, which they don't.

      Even Owen Jones after having a pop at Corbyn and his supporters then admitted Corbyn is overwhelmingly likely to win.

      So there is no reasonable or remotely likely circumstance where Corbyn and his supporters split.

      All that's left after the leadership election is the handful of Blairite ChickenCoup plotters continuing to shout abuse at their own party leader from inside the party.

      They may well get the media and the tories on their side to help them do so but they will seal their own fate and end up deselected, out of a job and out of politics altogether.

      Just like most of SLAB and the scottish westminster contingent from Labour.

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    2. 4%? Blind hatred of the blairites isn't going to help. Believe me, I'd love to be rid of them too, but the YouGov survey clearly indicates about 13% would vote for a right-wing split-off party.

      Bear in mind that UKIP, with 12-13% of the vote, came second in 120 seats. If not for Farage's orders to the troops to vote for the Tories, there would be more UKIP MPs.

      I think of it as the Edinburgh South effect - contining to elect Blairites even though the cause is clearly discredited. Yes, they probably won't come anywhere near 120, but they could hang onto forty or so, especially if Corbyn Labour decides not to contest constituencies similar to Edinburgh South in return for Blairites not contesting the 40 most marginal seats.

      Don't forget, Labour has a Labour Co-operative sub/parallel branch(not to mention the NI SDLP), so they already know how to operate this kind of arrangment. And the Blairites are such amateurish backstabbers - it should be entertaining when they start doing it to themselves.

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    3. Incompetent Blairites of Mass Destruction #ChickenCoupAugust 5, 2016 at 12:24 PM

      You simply didn't understand,. That small number of Labour voters 13% is 4% of the electorate.

      None of the mockery of Blairites the is blind. It is informed by every single stupid thing they do and have done. Contempt for them too yes, though hatred is giving them too much credit since they are essentially powerless and irrelevant now like SLAB and it's leadership.

      Farage didn't order anyone to vote tory. The Kippers don't have more MPS because of FPTP and because most of the soft tory vote and some kippers melted away to the tories since they were getting an EU ref for free by doing so.

      Even with that the tories only managed a tiny majority which is going to come back into play very soon indeed.

      The kippers aren't as organised as the other political parties. They're pretty shit at canvassing and the hard work needed to harness votes and make a grassroots movement viable and sustainable. However, they won't need it if tories and tory members (who were denied a vote on electing a Brexit tory PM) do not like May's Remainer 'deals' when she shoots down the more absurd and lunatic of the hardline Brexiteers fantasies one by one to leave the lightest of Brexit lights as the only option.

      The Blairites are little more than a disgruntled rabble of careerists idiots.

      Nobody could or would make deals with them.
      Deals would require a new party and they simply don't have the balls or the support to do so. For sure, they might get some financial bungs from a few of the more clueless Blairite moneypots, but money alone will never cut it.

      Somehow finding 4 Labour MPs to jump of a cliff with 4% support of the total electorate would be hilarious, never mind 40.

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  5. If the Tories are crazy enough to follow through on their pledge to exit the EU,once they feel sufficiently unencumbered by current restraints,are going to have to follow policies which will allow them to compete with other banana republics/kingdoms.
    The Blairites Tory lite philosophy supported by the current intake of Labour MPs just won't cut it with England's electorate so they are very definitely going to need Corbyn and his supporters.
    The goal posts are about to be shifted in a very big way.

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    1. Bumblefuck tories for unityAugust 4, 2016 at 12:30 PM

      Clegg's ostrich faction and the lib dems did everything the Blairites have ever wanted to do to Labour. They got as close as possible to the tories while embracing austerity/pointless wars and almost all of the neoliberal agenda.

      It utterly destroyed them and they are now a complete irrelevance with a taxi full of MPs and MSPs.

      However much the media tries to pretend things are all just fine and the tories and westminster establishment is blithely going on with business as usual with nobody caring, the fact of the matter is that's complete and utter bullshit.

      It simply does not sound even remotely convincing to anyone outside the bubble just now.

      There are huge swathes of ordinary people real fucking angry at what is happening in England/Wales. It's why Corbyn is getting the massive crowds he is and why the westminster bubble is so laughably out of touch.

      The tories have no plan for Brexit and people are beginning to notice.

      They also have no plan for how to keep the tory party together since trying to get rid of anyone in the tory party who doesn't agree with May and her policies (whatever the fuck they actually are, like on Brexit) is no longer an option.

      Doesn't matter if the Kippers are a complete joke right now. Farage will always be able to jump into that party and claim back the leadership at a time of his choosing after the EU ref. Even if he didn't, being a joke has never stopped the Kippers taking votes off the tories before when it came to immigration and EU splits like Brexit.

      Imagine the tories trying to run a snap election with NO POLICY ON BREXIT and no clue what to do about it.

      ROFL!

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 6:39 PM

      The plan is to leave. Leave the negotiating to the clever people tosspot. The Nat sis had no plan for a Scottish currency, remember!

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    3. The troll also advocates arming Leave campaigners to "defend democracy", claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming they're not insults, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

      The troll can run away like a good little torrance whenever it's ready.

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM

      Who is torrance?

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    5. Do your own homework, troll.

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    6. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 10:32 PM

      Nae point if you mention torrance then it is of no importance just like torrance.

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    7. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 4, 2016 at 10:34 PM

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    8. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 10:52 PM

      Nat si idiot get help. Remember to put your lederhosen in a cold wash as it can shrink get tight and restictive oan ra baws. Not good fur yer heid.

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    9. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 4, 2016 at 11:13 PM

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    10. The troll also advocates armed militias in offices and factories to "defend democracy", claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming they're not insults, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

      The troll can run away like a good little torrance whenever it's ready.

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  6. For a politics watcher like me, it's real fun atm. :)

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  7. I am rather enjoying the Brit Nat Labour Party self immolating. I view it as 40 plus years of bad karma being dumped on their heads. This is the SDP Gang of Four plus plus in terms of handing everything on a plate to Thatcher Mk2.

    It wont be much fun for those that never recovered from Thatcher Mk1 though.

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    1. Should be fun watching the Chicken Coup plotters squirm if, as is likely, Corbyn sees off Smith's challenge. I have my doubts that many of the plotters will push the SDP-shaped button, though.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 8:50 PM

      Labour have all the time in the world to deal with their far left problem. They are not in power. The problem Labour have is the loonie left do not want to be in power. They prefer demonstrating and shouting from the gutter as well as anti Semetic tendencies.

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    3. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 4, 2016 at 8:57 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 10:03 PM

      You have an obcession which could be poisonous. You are not right in the heid get help. Type of idiot that goes around stabbing tourists. Chin Chin opening a new bottle shares are good.

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    5. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 4, 2016 at 10:14 PM

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    6. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 10:47 PM

      Habitual porky pie...... Seek help. The NHS is there.

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    8. The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates armed militias in every office and factory, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming that they're not insults, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

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  8. The present labour crisis has very little to do with the labour party as such.
    It is the establishment losing it's hold over the labour party's policies which instigated the coup against Corbyn.
    So far Jeremy Corbyn has stood his ground well, never cowardly like the patriotic Benn who if he had any courage would have stood for the leadership.
    He may have failed but people could have respected him. I am glad his father never saw him behave like this.
    If Owen Smith wins the labour leadership I will be surprised but it would only start a right wing coup against him so what would be the point of him winning.
    Of course the Mighty Eagle may come blubbering back. The 51 MP's who backed her challenge for the leadership need serious psychiatric treatment however this is merely my opinion.

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    1. There are supporters of the #ChickenCoup who seem to think Dan Jarvis will swoop in to save the day, even though he's not standing for the leadership...

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  9. Bumblefuck tories for unityAugust 4, 2016 at 8:12 PM

    Theresa "safe pair of hands" May.



    Evening StandardVerified account  ‏@standardnews · 4 minutes ago

    Dame Lowell Goddard becomes third chairwoman to quit westminster child sex abuse inquiry:

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/child-sex-abuse-inquiry-dame-lowell-goddard-becomes-third-chairwoman-to-quit-a3312361.html …



    Just till wait the impending tory Chaos really starts to heat up.
    It will make Labour's current lunatic split look cuddly and quaint.

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  10. Toryboy Torrance and the Cringing of YoonsAugust 4, 2016 at 9:30 PM

    David Halliday ‏@DavidJFHalliday 3 hours ago


    Can you imagine John Pilger writing a valediction about how being called an angry Weetabix forced him to jack it all in?

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  11. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 11:08 PM

    Wur oan wur wae, useless politicians nae mair, joke Nat sis nae mair, EU gravy train nae mair, Holyrood spongers nae mair. Some Sunshine oan Leith at last.

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 4, 2016 at 11:14 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2August 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM

      Repetitive Joke Nazi, oh sorry Nat si.

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    3. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 4, 2016 at 11:55 PM

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 12:13 AM

      Nah liar just Glesga East End where the religious Nat si idiot is in power.

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    5. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 5, 2016 at 12:20 AM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks".

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  12. Incompetent Blairites of Mass Destruction #ChickenCoupAugust 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM

    Ronan Burtenshaw ‏@ronanburtenshaw · 45 minutes ago

    Owen Smith supporters pushing a fake poll showing him beating Corbyn tonight. #LabourLeadership

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpC_gPEW8AEQ9mY.jpg:large


    Labour Insider ‏@Labour_Insider · 2 hours ago

    "After tonight's dismal performance a few of us are going to ask Owen to drop out of the leadership election" rebel MP tells @Labour_Insider



    So that went well then. XD

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  13. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 12:10 AM

    Dan Jarvis can unite Labour. He must make his move soon. The hard left anti - semetic fascists must not take over Labour.

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 5, 2016 at 12:21 AM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

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  14. A troll hopes to make your day a miserable one, and his a triumph of besting you and everybody. To feel superior he only needs to say he’s dealing with idiots. Trolls like insult and abuse. Their opponents are made to feel impotent, thoroughly inadequate and uncomfortable. With trolling goes a great deal of narcissism.

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    1. Everyone here laughs at the racist troll and mocks him because he's so shit at trolling and because he's so thick. He is utterly humiliated for all to see every single day he posts on here. Not much to be be narcissistic about there.

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    2. Agreed; however, narcissists don't see things that way. They see their own small victories and disregard things most of us would consider humiliating.

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 12:13 PM

      You are already a miserable liar Nat si bhoy.

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    4. The troll also advocates armed militias in offices and factories to "defend democracy", claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming they're not insults, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

      The troll can run away like a good little torrance whenever it's ready.

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    5. Ceaseless tirades are the tactic of the experienced troll: never answer a direct question; never defer to erudition; when accused of making banal assertion attack the other person’s intelligence, and if a good point is made shout it down with high-handed condemnation and jeering. If possible, call in a couple of supporters to pretend they are objective bystanders but who agree with you in toto. If a debater refuses to lower their standards and leaves the fray, accuse them of running away from the argument. Trolls like to pretend they are masters of their universe, and ours.

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    6. Any small child is brighter than the idiot troll on here. It clearly doesn't understand a thing about politics and even it's insults sound feeble and inept.

      The troll deserves nothing more than the pasted repeated reminder of precisely what they are. Which is for everyone else to see. It's obviously not for the troll! LOL The troll can say whatever the fuck it likes and who gives a shit? NOBODY believes a word it says on here. NOBODY AT ALL. Why the fuck would they???

      Anyone who visits this site's comment section will always know precisely what the troll is whenever it starts shitting out random stupid bullshit into the comments section.

      That will not stop.

      The troll will find them every time it appears.

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  15. Corbyn thinks Scotland should be run from London,England.Bow to your imperial master!

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    1. Owen thinks Scotland should be run from London,England.Bow to your imperial master!

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  16. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 12:10 PM

    Chakrabarti for the Lords. Dianne Abbot the leftie who is against the Lords supports her appointment. Who wid huv thunk it. There is no anti-Semitism in the Labour Party!

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    1. The troll also advocates armed militias in offices and factories to "defend democracy", claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming they're not insults, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

      The troll can run away like a good little torrance whenever it's ready.

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  17. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 2:16 PM

    Oor Andy tae kerry the Union Flag tonight in Rio. Makes ye proud and a Scotsman tae.

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 5, 2016 at 3:11 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 4:48 PM

      The above poster is a liar and pissed aff the Jocks voted tae stay in the Union and the UK voted tae brexit the corrupt EU. Not much going for him at all and Andy carrying that flag just wraps it up for the Nat si bhoy.

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    3. The troll also advocates armed militias in offices and factories to "defend democracy", claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming they're not insults, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

      The troll can run away snivelling like a good little torrance whenever it's ready.

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 8:00 PM

      Theresa May wears nicer shoes than knickerless. Theresa has class. Knickerless trys not to be working class but her shoes give her away.

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    5. The troll also advocates armed militias in offices and factories to "defend democracy", claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming they're not insults, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

      The troll can run away snivelling like a good little torrance whenever it's ready.

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    6. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 8:23 PM

      I kind of feel sorry for you fash boy. Listen to Radio 2 just now, some good soothing music for you.
      Anything that prevents you putting a plastic bag over yer heid son.

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    7. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 5, 2016 at 8:27 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted & poisonous obsession with the First Minister & her predecessor.

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    8. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 8:37 PM

      Just put the bag over yer heid no one will miss you. Did try.

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    9. The troll also advocates armed militias in offices and factories to "defend democracy", claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming they're not insults, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

      The troll can run snivelling to Auntie Cruella like a good little torrance whenever it's ready.

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  18. Bumblefuck tories for unityAugust 5, 2016 at 8:44 PM

    Dan Paris ‏@_DanParis · Aug 4

    David Cameron's former head of strategy says the honours system is a “serious type of very British corruption”

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  19. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 8:49 PM

    Are you posting from Maynooth Ceminary! Is it painful?

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 5, 2016 at 8:54 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted & poisonous obsession with the First Minister & her predecessor.

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  20. Boris Gump and the BrexitearsAugust 5, 2016 at 8:49 PM

    Kamal Ahmed ‏@bbckamal · Aug 4

    Carney: more than a quarter of a million people are now forecast to lose their jobs

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  21. The SNP ‏@theSNP · Aug 2

    A £200k fund has been set up to encourage disabled people to stand for election.

    http://news.scotland.gov.uk/News/Fund-for-aspiring-politicians-27e5.aspx

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 9:10 PM

      They could do better than the Nat si MSP's and MP wasters.

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    2. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 5, 2016 at 9:12 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted & poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor.

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  22. Boris Gump and the BrexitearsAugust 5, 2016 at 8:56 PM

    Mhairi Hunter ‏@MhairiHunter · Aug 3

    Every part of the UK economy is now shrinking post-Brexit

    http://read.bi/2atPmB8 via @BIUK_Finance

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  23. Boris Gump and the BrexitearsAugust 5, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    Alistair Davidson ‏@moh_kohn · Aug 3

    UK economy is nosediving and article 50 hasn't even been triggered yet. Is it even possible to pull that trigger, set off capital flight?

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  24. Incompetent Blairites of Mass Destruction #ChickenCoupAugust 5, 2016 at 9:01 PM

    Éoin ‏@LabourEoin · 11 hours ago

    2007 when Blair was PM, Chakrabarti was awarded a CBE & appointed to a commission on Security. Not a peep from press

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 9:35 PM

      Keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    2. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 5, 2016 at 9:56 PM

      .

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  25. The SNP ‏@theSNP · Aug 2

    A £200k fund has been set up to encourage disabled people to stand for election.

    http://news.scotland.gov.uk/News/Fund-for-aspiring-politicians-27e5.aspx

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2August 5, 2016 at 9:46 PM

      Is that real disabled people or Nat si braindead.

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    2. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 5, 2016 at 9:56 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  26. Thomas Telford EngineerAugust 5, 2016 at 10:05 PM

    The British State will move forward inspite of narrow minded flat earth Jock Nat sis who make repetitive sirry idiot comments only fit for the dustbin of history.

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 5, 2016 at 10:37 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  27. Stupid Jock Nat sis who actually thought RBS and BOS were Scottish banks. And they now try and blame brexit for the forthcoming recession.

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 5, 2016 at 10:38 PM

      .

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  28. Boris Gump and the BrexitearsAugust 5, 2016 at 10:38 PM

    Mhairi Hunter ‏@MhairiHunter · Aug 3

    Every part of the UK economy is now shrinking post-Brexit

    http://read.bi/2atPmB8 via @BIUK_Finance

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    1. Rabbie Burns ScotsmanAugust 6, 2016 at 12:11 AM

      Joke fash Nat sis want the UK economy tae fail then crawl as they do tae Herman and beg, please let us have the euro frau Merkel. GROVEL.

      Real scumgags are the Nat sis.

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    2. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 6, 2016 at 1:06 AM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  29. Boris Gump and the BrexitearsAugust 6, 2016 at 1:07 AM

    Alistair Davidson ‏@moh_kohn · Aug 3

    UK economy is nosediving and article 50 hasn't even been triggered yet. Is it even possible to pull that trigger, set off capital flight?

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  30. Incompetent Blairites of Mass Destruction #ChickenCoupAugust 6, 2016 at 2:32 PM

    Michael Gray‏@GrayInGlasgow

    UK Labour leadership candidate Owen Smith has said he would not do a deal with the SNP even if it meant having another Tory government.

    THUNK!

    Another nail in the coffin for SLAB and indeed Owen Smith's already laughably tiny chances of winning.

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  31. Glasgow Working Class 2August 6, 2016 at 6:32 PM

    Doing a deal with the Nat sis is same as doing a deal with the Tories.

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    1. The troll also advocates armed militias in offices and factories to "defend democracy", claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming they're not insults, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

      The troll can run away like a good little torrance whenever it's ready.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2August 6, 2016 at 8:29 PM

      That was over an hour were you in yer scratcher! 24.

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    3. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 6, 2016 at 9:16 PM

      .

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 12:02 AM

      Something strange happening! No moaning and hard done tae stories fae knickerless and her ensemble in the last few days. It used tae be a daily moan. Miss it whits happening Nat sis.

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    5. The troll also advocates armed militias in offices and factories to "defend democracy", claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs while claiming they're not insults, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a strange, perverted and poisonous obsession with the First Minister and her predecessor.

      The troll can run away like a good little torrance whenever it's ready.

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  32. Do sporty Scottish people get called 'jock jocks'?

    I must admit I never found the word "jock" particularly offensive. "Thick traitorous f*cking yoon troll b@stard" I found to be more offensive, to be honest.

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    1. Me neither. But if someone says they don't like being called something, it's probably good manners to stop.

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    2. Theresa May's Child Abuse Inquiry IncompetenceAugust 7, 2016 at 12:23 PM

      Wings Over Scotland ‏@WingsScotland

      Scotland bucks UK trend with no rise in reported hate crime in wake of Brexit vote http://archive.is/uX2It

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    3. "The undecideds and the bottlers will put it in the back of the net for 'remain'. I'm sure Cameron also has a few tricks up his sleeve to deploy in the dying days of the campaign."

      Aldo

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 7:08 PM

      Maybe a couple of Scottish religious colleges now closed should be investigated just like Maynooth in Ireland. The bum bhoys must be shiting themselves.

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    5. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 7, 2016 at 7:12 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    6. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 7:24 PM

      Keaton, if it is the truth then why stop. Where does good manners have a place in politics especially Jock Nat si politics.

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    7. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 7:33 PM

      Clearly the Nat si poster headcase at 1912hrs above wants a child abuse cover up.

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    8. The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  33. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 10:57 AM

    Hosie is calling for a stimulus! Has he not had enough!

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 7, 2016 at 12:16 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  34. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 1:39 PM

    The joke Nat sis want a presence on the UK brexit negotiating team. Must be the best Nat si joke of century. The scum would sell the UK out given a chance.

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 7, 2016 at 1:51 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  35. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 7:00 PM

    Knickerless on the front page today. The PO should dedicate a 2nd class stamp to her then we can all lick her arse.

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    1. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 7, 2016 at 7:12 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 8:01 PM

      A perverted poisonous obcession! I get it now you are describing your sad life experience. Was it in a Scottish religiius college?

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    3. The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 8:46 PM

      You are my favourite Fash Nat si. Just wondering how you know I am from England?

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    5. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 7, 2016 at 9:04 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    6. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 9:23 PM

      But how do you know I am from England? You would not make it up!

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    7. The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  36. This blog has gone beyond parody.

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    1. the dumb troll still does not realise it's not talking to anyone and is getting an automated response that takes mere seconds from people who don't care what it says any more and aren't even reading it's posts.! lol lol lol

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 10:36 PM

      Nat sis are automated and controlled. Well done for being honest fash bhoy.
      Seems we may get some clarity on Nat si policy now. Aye right.
      A joke of the North Currency proposal would be a starting point! Up yer kilt Nat si.

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    3. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 7, 2016 at 11:00 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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  37. This blog has gone beyond parody.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 10:04 PM

      That is because the Jock Nat sis have no policies in improving the lives of the Scottish people. They just do slogans and make false accusations. They are just nationalists who hate the English. The Neanderthal were more progressive. Och Aye ra noo. Let us hear more on policy and a new Scottish currency from the Nat si Fash. Up yer kilt.

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    2. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 7, 2016 at 10:16 PM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2August 7, 2016 at 11:18 PM

      The poster above is limited in intellect and lives somewhere maybe the Irish Republic and hates the English as expected but is not Scottish. Maybe has had a bad painfull experience with the clergy.

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    4. The poster above is a far-right racist troll from EnglandAugust 8, 2016 at 12:08 AM

      The troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor

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