Tuesday, March 1, 2016

Dazzling double-header of Holyrood polls suggests SNP support is soaring into the stratosphere

We knew that the monthly TNS poll of Holyrood voting intentions would turn up sooner or later, but today unexpectedly brings word of two polls, as the Record's regular pollster Survation starts up a torrid adulterous affair with the Mail.  So much for "Vows", eh?  (That's a joke, by the way, before I get an email from Survation reminding me that they haven't signed a contract of exclusivity with the Record!)

Let's start with the TNS poll, because the numbers are pretty extraordinary -

Constituency ballot :

SNP 60% (+3)
Labour 21% (n/c)
Conservatives 13% (-4)
Liberal Democrats 4% (+1)

Regional list ballot :

SNP 55% (+3)
Labour 21% (+2)
Conservatives 13% (-4)
Greens 6% (n/c)
Liberal Democrats 4% (-2)

It's not unheard of for the SNP to break the 60% barrier in TNS polls, but the only previous times they've done it were in three consecutive polls during their post-election honeymoon last spring and summer.  After that, they slipped down to a consistent range of 56-58%, so today's finding is a bit unexpected.  It could be a freak result caused by a weird sample, but it has to be said that there have been several recent polls from a variety of firms showing at least a small increase in SNP support.  It could be real, therefore, but if so, it's quite hard to pinpoint where the extra support is coming from.  Superficially, this poll would leave you with the impression that it's coming direct from the Tories, but for obvious reasons that's highly unlikely.

It's certainly not clear that it's coming from Labour, because the other big story of the TNS poll is that last month's swing from Labour to Tory (which at the time seemed to corroborate evidence from other pollsters) now looks like a mirage.  Labour have been restored to a commanding 8% lead for second-place, both on the constituency ballot and the all-important list ballot.  Ipsos-Mori have shown a similar trend - a big Tory surge in one poll followed by slippage in the next, so it's not impossible there was a genuine (albeit transitory) spike in support for the Tories, but I can't think of any obvious reason for the timing of it.

I'm now back to my original view that the bookies' very generous odds on Labour finishing second are practically free money.  (The operative word being 'practically', and I'm far too risk-averse to go down that road myself!)

TNS are always the firm that causes the greatest excitement amongst the "tactical voting" brigade, because they consistently show much higher SNP figures than anyone else, leaving the impression that we're heading for a complete "yellow-wash" in the constituency seats..  They're a 'real world' pollster, of course (they conduct interviews face-to-face), so it's perfectly conceivable that they're getting it right and everyone else is getting it wrong.  But the most important reason for a degree of scepticism is that the other 'real world' firm (Ipsos-Mori) have slotted in at the other end of the spectrum, and have shown the SNP as 'low' as 50% - as have Panelbase and YouGov.  If the true figure slipped down to the high 40s, we'd be well into territory where the SNP might need list seats to retain their majority.  On the basis of 45% of the constituency vote last time, they won just 53 of the 73 constituency seats, meaning they required a minimum of 12 list seats for a majority (they got 16).

To return to the point that I raised a number of times in my debate with Tommy Sheridan, the evidence is pretty clear that a so-called "tactical vote" on the list for either RISE or Solidarity is highly likely to be wasted and might as well be thrown in the bin.  (The only possible exception is in the Glasgow electoral region, where it's conceivable that Solidarity has a small concentration of support that the polls are unable to pick up.)  On the headline figures, the TNS poll found just one respondent who is minded to vote Solidarity, and just one respondent who is minded to vote SSP.  That works out as 0.2% of the list vote for both parties.  UKIP, you'll be pleased to hear, find themselves in precisely the same predicament.

Let's turn now to the Survation poll -

Constituency ballot :

SNP 54% (+1)
Labour 21% (-1)
Conservatives 16% (n/c)
Liberal Democrats 5% (-1)

Regional list ballot :

SNP 43% (-2)
Labour 19% (+1)
Conservatives 14% (-1)
Greens 9% (n/c)
Liberal Democrats 7% (+1)
UKIP 6% (n/c)

The fly in the ointment here is that the SNP's list vote has once again slipped below the 44% achieved in the 2011 election.  That could be slightly ominous if it turns out that list seats are required for a majority, although in all probability Survation are overestimating how many SNP constituency voters are likely to switch to the Greens on the list.  John Curtice thinks that the question Survation ask is leading respondents to wrongly think that the list vote is some sort of second preference vote.  If you look at the exact wording used, it's a debatable point -

"Your second vote will be a party list vote to elect representatives from your region of Scotland by a form of proportional representation. If the election were tomorrow, which party would you be most likely to vote for with your second, regional list vote?"

Arguably the second use of the word "second" is a bit redundant.  Whatever the explanation, though, the empirical evidence is that Survation are showing a wildly implausible gap between the SNP's constituency and list share of the vote, which in turn makes it pretty likely that something is going wrong and that the Greens (and probably UKIP as well) are being significantly overestimated on the list.

This poll doesn't show quite as big a gap between Labour and Tory as TNS does, but nevertheless the Labour advantage has widened on the list vote, which adds to the weight of evidence that the Tories are highly unlikely to claim the runner-up spot (barring a total Labour meltdown beyond even anything we've seen thus far).

Minor party news : Survation don't ask about Solidarity or RISE, but the "another party" option claims just 1.1% of the list vote.

By far the most amusing and satisfying detail of this poll, which was commissioned by the Mail, is that it shows a plurality of support for the BBC replacing the network Six O'Clock News with a "Scottish Six" produced in Glasgow and tailored for a Scottish audience.  36% of respondents supported the idea, and only 33% were opposed.  The Mail, of course, have been wrongly telling us for days that the people of Scotland don't want the Scottish Six.

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SCOT GOES POP POLL OF POLLS

Constituency ballot :

SNP 53.4% (+0.8)
Labour 20.4% (-0.2)
Conservatives 16.4% (-0.8)
Liberal Democrats 5.4% (n/c)

Regional list ballot :

SNP 47.4% (+0.2)
Labour 19.6% (+0.6)
Conservatives 15.8% (-1.0)
Greens 6.4% (n/c)
Liberal Democrats 6.2% (-0.2)

(The Poll of Polls is based on a rolling average of the most recent poll from each of the firms that have reported Scottish Parliament voting intention numbers over the previous three months, and that adhere to British Polling Council rules. At present, there are five - Panelbase, Survation, YouGov, TNS and Ipsos-Mori. Whenever a new poll is published, it replaces the last poll from the same company in the sample.)

103 comments:

  1. Hey James you are going just a teensy weensy bit over the top with your headlines. Scot Goes Pop is like the Sun for Indys!

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    1. Give it a rest - your kind of thinking belongs in the bad old days of the Scottish Cringe, when we weren't supposed to be exuberant, or even confident and comfortable in our own skins, in deference to our English rulers.

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    2. Anon sounds like he'd be fun at parties.

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    3. Anon would be a big hit since he doesn't know irony when it bangs him on the head. Mind you I've always said irony must be carefully used since YOONS usually think it's the truth, but Nats surely not.

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  2. No, the headlines are brilliant! They give me a buzz. Please continue. ;)

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  3. #LibDemFightback

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  4. Lab spokesman ," It could have been worse if it was not for our cunning plan #SNPbad " :D

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  5. Festering Tory divisions over Europe hitting their VI?

    #Popcorn

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    1. And they are only in Day 3 of Brexit. What WILL it be like after 50 days of tearing each others' throats apart. Will there be any Tories left or will they all be Kippers, you know those with no backbone?

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  6. As polling day gets closer and closer, it is becoming clearer and clearer that a split ticket vote is the way to go in every Region except Highlands and South.

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    1. Sunshine on CrieffMarch 1, 2016 at 12:59 PM

      No it isn't.

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    2. Utterly, utterly bizarre comment, Alasdair.

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    3. Wishful thinking is seldom a good basis for deciding your vote.

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    4. Alasdair obviously didn't watch the debate between James and TS......

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    5. James, it's not bizarre and you know the argument for both sides.

      As I said when this first became an issue, split ticket voting would be validated by the polling as it approached the election date. We are now approaching the date, the SNP is guaranteed a majority purely on Constituency Seat and the focus for those who support INDEPENDENCE and not merely The SNP, should be on reducing Unionism to a rump.

      That means SNP/Green. It is not guaranteed and we both can provide mathematical explanations of our points of view. But the best way to consider them is that SNP/SNP cannot significantly reduce Unionist numbers are Holyrood, SNP/Green (and only Green not Solidarity or other nonsense leftists) MIGHT reduce Unionist numbers.

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    6. To Alasdair Allan
      In the immortal words of the erudite Weegie, "ach awa and bile yer heid ya bampot. Ye don't know yer erse from yer elba"

      An whose gonnae vote green when ye've goat the bam Ross Greer on your side?

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    7. "the SNP is guaranteed a majority purely on Constituency Seat"

      Rubbish. Absolute rubbish. The word "guaranteed" has a meaning, and it's not what you seem to think it means.

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    8. Alasdair's "guarantee" is maybe the same "guarantee" that is given with Hotpoint tumble driers - perfectly OK until the drier goes on fire, and then Hotpoint disclaim all responsibility for the machine, and the insurance company refuse to pay out, because "you should have used common sense", rather than listen to "experts".

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    9. When you're reduced to a pedantic discussion of the choice of words, its usually a good sign that you're argument is failing.

      Call it what you will, guaranteed, certain, assured, undoubted but without a change in polling there is no scenario where the SNP do not win a majority of seats purely on Constituency Seats.

      SNP/SNP is a purely SNP argument outside of South Scotland and Highland regions. It is not an argument to promote independence (especially with the SNP refusing to guarantee a referendum on independence in the next parliament).

      SNP/Green in all other Regions is the sensible choice given everything we know and the way that the election is shaping up. If, that is, you are a supporter of Independence rather than merely the SNP.

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    10. Alasdair, I've got a fantastic novel idea. How about we all vote for the candidate & party that we feel best represents us and most closely matches our beliefs & aspirations? That way we'll get a parliament that actually relects the country as a whole.

      We can try to stuff the chamber with a few extra supposedly independence-minded MSPs if we want, but to what end? It's not going to gain us a single YES vote in Indyref2, which is what really matters.

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    11. You just totally contradicted yourself. Unless of course the candidate & party that we feel best represents us and most closely matches our beliefs & aspirations happens to be other than the SNP, as your 2nd para screams. Bloody horrible people some of you SNP 1 and 2ers.

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    12. I'm sorry, but I don't see how I've contradicted myself at all.

      I do not believe in tactical voting. It distorts the picture. I know it can make more or less sense depending on the voting system, but I happen to believe that the D'Hondt method does a fairly good job. I don't quite see what we achieve by getting a few extra Green MSPs in the parliament at the expense of maybe a smaller number of SNP list MSPs, and a distorted sense of the beliefs of the nation.

      It so happens that the party I wish to be in power is the SNP, and the SNP constituency candidate is a good one, so it'll be SNPx2 from me. The makeup of the parliament will hopefully pretty much reflect the allegiances of the voters as a whole, and if we want independence then we must go out and persuade others to our point of view.

      I'm really not sure what's totally contradictory about that.

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    13. Er, no, Alasdair, there's no "pedantic discussion of the choice of words". You've offered three alternatives to "guaranteed" - they all mean exactly the same thing, and you have no business using any of them. The SNP are not "guaranteed" a majority on constituency seats alone. They are not "certain" to win a majority on constituency seats alone. They are not "assured" of winning a majority on constituency seats alone. It is not "undoubtedly" the case that the SNP will win a majority of seats on constituency seats alone.

      It doesn't matter how you phrase it - the point you're trying to make is just plain wrong.

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  7. SNP lead over Labour is stubbornly refusing to hit the psychologically important forty point mark.Its a bad poll for the SNP and one wonders how long Sturgeon can stay in place as leader

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  8. snp needed 16 list msps to form a government last time. They Will need list msps again. Don't mess with D'honte. both votes for snp gets the message hammered home.

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  9. Great headline! But we have to keep pushing and pushing!
    Take NOTHING for granted.
    SNPx2.
    Wee Sandy

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  10. Avast, yon Ruthie. In her hert o' herts, she's warm and tender.
    A line she draws, and nae surrender!
    But, like Scotland's snow, in a trice she's gone
    And Hell will mend her.........!

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  11. sexy saxty, ken?

    SNP times twa

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  12. The Lord be praised the Tory vote seems to be shrinking.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2March 1, 2016 at 7:59 PM

      The Tartan Tory vote seems to be increasing. Same policies as the real Tories.

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    2. Glasgow Working ClassMarch 1, 2016 at 9:30 PM

      You mean the Tartan Tory be that Red or Blue is stalling. The public are not as dumb as you.

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2March 1, 2016 at 10:13 PM

      Your verbal diahorea changes nothing the Nat sis are doing traditional Tory policies. The rich get richer and fook the poor. How do you hide your shame! On the internet of course.

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    4. Such irony fi one who's daein the Tories' dirty work again. Yoon did it in the indyref n noo yer daein it for Boris.

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  13. Oh deary me! That SNP Evil guff that the poisonous Brit Nat Press and Media has been pumping out daily just isn't working is it. Tank Commander Ruthie will no doubt be hitching a ride on an RAF jet next as it molests Russkies in international airspace.

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  14. Good poll results but these are just polls. SNP activists need to keep working up to 10 pm on polling day.

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  15. So Survation found 60 or so Ukippers but TNS only found 1.How is this explained?

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    1. Curtice may be right - the Survation question may be leading people astray with repeated use of the word "second". Or it may be partly that, and partly data collection method (with online respondents traditionally more likely to say they are voting UKIP).

      I don't see how the whole explanation can be data collection method, though, because other online firms are showing much lower shares for UKIP.

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    2. Aye.60 UKIP simpathisers plumping for them when it's suggested to them that the regional list vote is a second preference vote? Possible,I suppose.Perhaps,in the teeth of an EU referendum campaign,they will actually go and vote for UKIP.

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    3. There is a blog post by Roger Scully (politics prof at Cardiff) about an exercise with a YouGov poll where they split a sample, using different regional list questions. The question where it was implied that the regional vote was a "second vote" gave much better scores to Plaid and Ukip and a much worse score for Labour (the normally dominant party in Wales).

      http://blogs.cardiff.ac.uk/electionsinwales/2013/12/09/trying-to-get-it-right/

      Group 1 received the following question wording:

      “If there were an election to the National Assembly for Wales tomorrow, and thinking about the constituency vote, how would you vote? And thinking about the regional or party vote for the National Assembly for Wales, which party list would you vote for?”

      Group 1 results (list): Lab 39, Plaid 21, Con 18, Ukip 9, Green 5, Lib Dem 4.

      Group 2 received the following:

      “In elections to the National Assembly for Wales you have two votes. One is for an individual member of the Assembly – or AM – for your constituency. The second is for a party list for your region. If there were a National Assembly for Wales election tomorrow, which party would you vote for in your constituency? Now thinking about your second vote, for a party list in your region, which party would you vote for?”

      Group 2 results: Plaid 24, Ukip 20, Lab 19, Con 16, Lib Dem 8, Green 7.

      Clearly the second result (using "second vote") is just plain wrong. The effect in Scotland may be weaker, due to SNP support being more solid, but it is a similar pattern.

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  16. Yes, more people supported a Scottish Six news show, but that didn't stop the Daily Mail splashing their big negative headline. Misleading shoppers with "Only 36% of viewers support a Scottish Six".

    And the smaller 33% against were probably comprised of a good number of SNP voters who actually support the idea if done properly, but just don't trust the BBC to make it even more cringeworthy than the low budget Reporting Scotland.

    After all, their preferred format is apparently to switch between Glasgow and London studios and presenters - perpetuating the usual appearance that only the big important news can come from London, whilst the inferior Scottish presenters sit twiddling their thumbs, waiting for their slot to update on the local court case.

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    1. Daily Mail Headline: Only 36.9% of the UK electorate backed the Tories!

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  17. Given that UKIP are on what 2.5% in Scotland on average, why do they call themselves UKIP?

    It's like the SNP calling themselves UKNP or something and pretending they're important in the home counties. Kind of embarrassing really.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2March 1, 2016 at 11:19 PM

      Hey Skier, with all those new powers will the Nat sis tax the rich or carry on with Tory policies?

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    2. Haven't yoon goat leaflets tae deliver fir Nigel?

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    3. Taxing the rich raises little revenue, unfortunately. Middle earners are more numerous.

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  18. Glasgow Working Class 2March 1, 2016 at 10:36 PM

    Scotland has never been so right wing in my lifetime. The Nat sis even have a Creationist Glasgow East End Pastor in their ranks.

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    1. Yoon will make plenty ay right wing pals daein Tory dirty work in the EU ref. Bit ye already ken plenty ay them fi the indyref. Nae left winger, you.

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    2. GWC2 - How old ARE you? - 6 months? Away and bile yer heid ya bam! 1970 (my first election) - Tories 1,020,674 votes - 38% - 23 out of 71 seats. 2015 - Tories 434,097 - 14.9% - 1 out of 59 seats. If you are going to spout utter pish, do it somewhere else, laddie!

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    3. Highest council tax bands 'to pay more' says Nicola Sturgeon

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-35702374

      #TartanTories

      Good to see the SNP taxing the better off. Quite a contrast to Labour who want to increase taxes on the poorest disproportionately, forcing more austerity on them to pay for the union and trident.

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    4. A slightly risky strategy though.

      The top 5% of earners pay nearly 50% of the income tax take, and the top 1% pay around 27%. Those are also the most financially and geographically mobile subset of the population.

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    5. People could always vote Tory. They've been offering tax cuts for decades now at every election. Doesn't seem to have been a very successful strategy.

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    6. Very true, but that's always more of a 'might happen if we get in', although even the Tories haven't been too kind to their putative core voters on a few issues like pensions, IR35 and others.

      When it's an open choice between paying (x) North of the border or paying (y) to the South, it may be interesting to see how many of the higher end tax payers are willing to put the effort into restructuring their affairs to avoid the higher rate.

      My experience (as an accountant of many years speaking) is that a lot of very high earners tend to get disproportionately upset about paying more than 'their fair share' (in their opinion, of course) and will put in more effort than you'd think was worthwhile to avoid same.

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  19. Well Erchie plastic Jock Macpherson. There's your poll on the BBC 6. Guess what the people disagree with your metropolitan love affair. We knew that already but nice to see the evidence. Erchie argued that we shouldn't turn our back on a big country like England. But they can ignore Scottish news. There are some kind of strange misinations going on in unionists minds.

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  20. I hope the SNP give more publicity to the SNPx2 vote option.

    Those polls - the huge gap in SNP list vote % - could suggest there is still a large number who simply don't understand what the list vote is for.

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    1. You supercilious idiot. it's for voting for the candidate you actually believe in. I'm beginning to find it hard to defend some of idiots against GWC. SNP/Green for me. And I understand it perfectly well..you effin Idiot!!

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  21. There seems to be two groupings of pollsters now - one of which shows the SNP miles ahead, the other showing them light years ahead. At least one of them is wrong.

    On a more positive note, it was nice to see NO pulling ahead again; 53 - 47.

    Aldo

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    1. Looks like Tory vote might be getting hit by their divisions over Europe. Campaign is only just kicking off and already the Tories are ripping each others eyes out. Really ugly scenes and only going to get worse.

      I've stocked up on popcorn and put a little cash on a party split.

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    2. There has been a swing to Yes, Aldo, not to No. Do keep up.

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    3. Tories have been fighting over Europe since its inception as a political institution.

      The REAL popcorn moment is when the Scottish Resistance, the indycampers and their fellow travellers realise that the SNP isn't going to give them their second referendumb.

      You keep saying there has been a swing to Yes James - but the table of post referendumb polling is a sea of red for 'no', with the occasional splash of green - and NO still in the lead.

      Aldo

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    4. Good grief are YOU still here Aldo with your phoney ahem Glasgow working class pal! What makes you such a sad character that you have to hang out on a blog where you're clearly never going to change anyone's mind? Oh yeah Aldo keeps pushing this point i should vote Tory. Yeah. Why don't you just go right back to source and have it out with your parents or find that old school teacher who scared you.

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    5. I never said you should vote tory. I vote tory because they know how to generate wealth and stand up for the unity and defence of the nation. But those things aren't as important to everyone...

      Aldo

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    6. "because they know how to generate wealth"

      Apparently not. George has been in charge nearly six years, yet:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35672158

      Anyway, regarding 'dodgy dossier' gate, is the work and pensions secretary a liar or is the PM? It's just both are accusing each other of making stuff up.

      It seems to me there is no agreed plan from the Tories. I mean half the party has a totally different plan (out of the EU) from the other half (in EU). If they can't agree on such an important aspect of the economy/trade, how can they possibly have a solid economic plan?

      This lack of an economic plan is causing growth to be poorer as the BBC article reports.

      As a party the Tories are completely divided and all over the place. Going to cost them by-elections and likely the next GE.

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    7. So why ARE you here Aldo if you're not trying to advance your (dodgy) political viewpoint? Do you get some sort of perverted pleasure out of pure unadulterated confrontation?

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    8. Corbyn win the next general election? Aye, good ain! (as they say in Dundee).

      The tory record on the economy speaks for itself. Any time a period of conservative government has followed a period of labour government, the economy has improved. The most famous instance of that is 1979 to 1997 but it is also true of the current era of tory government (deficit down, growth restored, record employment etc).

      Why am I here? Simple really - it's "Scot Goes Pop", not "Peed off nationalists and left wing agitators go pop".

      Aldo

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    9. Although that would be a catchier title.

      But it's important not to confuse macro economic trends with political competence. While I wouldn't particularly blame the Tories for the U.S. sub-prime mortgage crash, I also wouldn't sing their praises for riding the wave of the 1990s digital boom.

      It's like saying Chavez was a genius because Oil was $120 and he happened to be in charge of Venezuela. Any idiot can make money in a rising market.

      The UK has performed well compared to its peers in the recent post-crash recovery by most objective measures. But we also underperformed significantly during the Thatcher-Lawson years.

      'Tories good' is just as blinkered as 'Wastemonster bad', although I'm probably being overly reasonable for a site like this.

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    10. "Any time a period of conservative government has followed a period of labour government, the economy has improved. The most famous instance of that is 1979 to 1997"

      If I had 40 billion barrels of oil in my back yard my economy would improve too.

      I might stick some of the proceeds away for later though.

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  22. As someone who used to work for Ipsos Mori, I can tell you that the polls can be skewed. When conducting door to door interviews, the area/streets to be visited are decided in advance by the company. It is therefore fairly simple to look at the results of previous polls and the areas visited to determine which areas should be visited again to get the results you want.

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    1. IPSOS MORI do telephone polls by random digit dialling.

      Maybe you worked for a different IPSOS MORI.

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    2. Different anonymousMarch 3, 2016 at 10:04 PM

      2 years ago, and possibly more recently too, they also did door-to-door, because I knew someone who did that.

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  23. Glasgow Working Class 2March 2, 2016 at 9:50 PM

    Good to see a large group of young people outside the Cessnock UG Station tonight handing out Labour leaflets. Seems the Tartan Tory Nat sis have not done an 1984 brainwashing job on all good Scots. Well done youngsters you have clearly identified the alternative Tory scum.

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    1. Wasted exercise.SLAB are going to get humped in May.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2March 2, 2016 at 10:43 PM

      It is never wasted time to oppose Tartan Tory scumbags. You Nat si Tory scum will fall on your own swords. The Scots can be only fooled some of the time,


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    3. Obviously Hootsman has gotten right up your 2nd. class nose.Enjoy your wee rant,It's all your capable of.

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2March 2, 2016 at 11:46 PM

      I think hootsman is up yer alley and you are both distracted from real politiics and not serving the poor. Och Aye.

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    5. Away and do something useful.Pressing Corbyns suit comes to mind.

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    6. Glasgow Working ClassMarch 3, 2016 at 12:05 AM

      Try pressing yer brain Nat si it may release yer potential or independence in Europe!

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    7. Yoon still seem tae thimk callin folk idiots n Nazis is gonnae win hearts n minds. Whit wid thae idealistic kids say if they found oot ye bag carry fir Kippers n Tories?

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    8. Yoon still seem tae thimk callin folk idiots n Nazis is gonnae win hearts n minds. Whit wid thae idealistic kids say if they found oot ye bag carry fir Kippers n Tories?

      Nice to see Scotty from Star Trek is still alive and posting.

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    9. Help! Murrdurr! Language polis!

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  24. Glasgow Working Class 2March 3, 2016 at 9:36 PM

    Anon you are great and ma hero. It used tae be Tam Sheridan noo its you. Both of you support the Nat sis, looking efter the rich and screwin the poor. I just soil my pants thinkin aboot ye two great scum.

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    1. Ah'd see a doctor aboot that if ah were yoon.

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  25. lol where do you retards come from?

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  26. Looks like the yoons are going to get humped in May, too bad but If you lie to the people of Scotland,life tends to go badly for you.

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    1. Expect Glasgow Working Class,2nd. class to come back with a snide comment.Constructive thinking was never his strong point.

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  27. Glasgow Working Class 2March 4, 2016 at 9:46 PM

    Constructive fact is you are Tory erse lickers. You scum should be ashamed doing Tory policies. How much did the ex Tory funder Souter give you lot of Baskets. Hingin is too good fur you. Come ra revolution ther will be nae strawberries an cream fur you shit it will up against ra wa then aff tae ra civic amenity.

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    1. Says the guy who did the Tories' dirty work in the indyref and is daein it again in the EUref. Gave fun cleanin fir Queenie this weekend.

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    2. I see our resident 2nd.class citizen has come back with his usual foul-mouthed rant.Usual Unionist tactic,when all else fails,revert to type with rabid rambling rhetoric. Ah well,I suppose It's hard to change the habits of a lifetime.

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2March 5, 2016 at 12:51 PM

      Yer a class traitor and revisionist Nat si scumbag.

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    4. As class is something you are singularly lacking in,how would you know a class traitor if you saw one?

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    5. Glasgow Working Class 2March 5, 2016 at 7:44 PM

      Generally you know by what they say now and what they said before.
      Tommy Sheridan says he wants to help the Glasgow people but will vote Nat si first. So he is voting for the very scum who have repeatedly cut the Glasgow budget, refuse to tax the rich and have frozen council tax. Some socialist eh!

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    6. Yoon are in nae position tae call anyone class traitor. Yoon have yet again made common cause wi Kippers n Tories. This is nae stretch for yoon, as ye've been oan here spouting Blairite guff for months. Noo git back tae cleanin fir Queenie like a guid wee yoon subject.

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    7. Glasgow Working Class 2March 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM

      Anon ya fundamentalist Nat si dae ye want us Naws tae wear a yellow star on our clothing!

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    8. Reductio ad Godwinum.

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    9. Glasgow Working Class 2March 6, 2016 at 9:48 PM

      Never too late Nat si.

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    10. Yoon continue to make little to no sense. Yoon are an omnishambles. Boris must be proud of yoon.

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    11. Glasgow Working Class 2March 7, 2016 at 9:49 PM

      You attempt to negate my comments because they make sense. That is what you Nat sis are about.

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    12. Yoon make no sense. Yoon are truly omnishambolic. N that yellow star crack was beneath even what passes for your dignity.

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    13. Glasgow Working Class 2March 9, 2016 at 2:19 AM

      You obviously have no knowledge of nationalism and its consequences or perhaps you do and do not care, Nat si.

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    14. Yoon are an agent provocateur and a British nationalist

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