Monday, March 4, 2024

Why Alba shouldn't go beyond a round dozen of candidates

If, like me, you're a member of the Alba Party, you'll have received an email from Alex Salmond today, setting out changes that have occurred to the NEC line-up due to the turbulence of the last couple of days.  Suzanne Blackley has replaced Eva Comrie as Equalities Convener, albeit on an interim basis for now.  As I understand it, Yvonne Ridley officially remains Women's Convener but has stepped back from the role for the time being, with Ash Regan taking over on an informal basis.  People reading the email will probably be left with the impression that Eva Comrie's departure was straightforwardly due to Yvonne Ridley's tweets about the trans issue.  I think it should be borne in mind that there's almost certainly far more to it than that, however it's obviously understandable that the leadership will be keen to play down the significance of her decision.

My bigger concern, actually, is with a different part of the email, where Mr Salmond once again talks up the possibility of Alba standing more than the target number of twelve candidates at the general election.  The subtext is essentially "the more the merrier", as if it's self-evidently a good thing to stand as many candidates as possible if there are no financial or organisational barriers to doing so.  In reality there are other strategic considerations that ought to be taken into account, both in Alba's own best interests and in the best interests of the independence cause.

It's no secret that I think the most sensible thing to have done at the general election would have been to just stand two candidates, ie. the sitting Alba MPs Neale Hanvey and Kenny MacAskill, and concentrate all the available resources on their campaigns.  That would have been the best of all worlds because it would have given the two MPs the best possible chance of either holding their seats or getting respectable results, while avoiding the danger of Alba candidates acting as spoilers in other constituencies and letting in unionist MPs.  The latter would be a bad thing for two separate reasons - a) it's objectively a setback for independence if unionist MPs are unnecessarily elected, and b) any perception among independence supporters that Alba is to blame for that could damage Alba's reputation and undermine the party's chances at the 2026 Holyrood election.  Remember how sharply Ralph Nader's vote dropped between the 2000 and 2004 US presidential elections due to the perception among progressives that he was to blame for George W Bush's contested win in Florida.

In a democratic party, you have to accept democratic decisions, even if you think they're badly mistaken.  My preference for standing only two candidates was not the democratic decision made by Alba, which instead opted to stand in at least twelve constituencies.  As I understand it, the significance of the number twelve is that it's the minimum threshold for being given a Party Election Broadcast.  Although that's a desirable thing to have, I don't think three minutes on the TV comes close to outweighing the disadvantages of standing too many candidates.

However, a democratic decision to stand at least twelve candidates in order to get the election broadcast is perfectly consistent with standing just the twelve, banking the broadcast, and not going beyond that.  I really would urge the Alba leadership to see the wisdom of that course of action and not allow the party's intervention in the general election to become a runaway train.  The greater the number of candidates that go forward, the greater the risk of causing inadvertent harm.

It's been suggested that Alba can navigate the risk by selecting the seats it intervenes in with great care to avoid SNP marginals.  But that reminds me of some of the wild claims we used to hear about how it was possible to "vote tactically on the Holyrood list", when in reality that would have depended on the voter having a degree of foreknowledge about the election result that would never realistically be available.  Alba will have to choose which constituencies to target months or at least weeks before polling day, at which point there is bound to still be massive uncertainty about which SNP seats are most likely to be on a knife-edge.  Seats projections from recent opinion polls have varied wildly, with some putting the SNP in the low teens (in which case the "safer" SNP seats are the most likely to be the real marginals), and others putting the SNP in the mid-to-high thirties (in which case it's seats with lower majorities that will be in the balance).  I suppose there's an argument that the seats in which the SNP have the lowest majorities over Labour look like lost causes in any of the scenarios we're seeing at present, so those might be the 'safest' seats for Alba to intervene in.  But even there, an outside chance exists that the SNP might recover enough to bring those seats back into play, and in any case, do Alba really want to give the impression that they're deliberately trying to help "finish off" the most vulnerable SNP MPs?

The original concept of Alba was as a list-only party that Yes voters could back to get the best bang for their buck, safe in the knowledge that no damage was being done to the SNP in first-past-the-post elections.  I'd suggest Alba would be foolish to stray too far from that concept.  The real opportunity for Alba to make gains and change the weather for independence will be on the Holyrood list vote in 2026, and the important thing in the meantime is not to do anything that would imperil that opportunity.

I'm not an absolutist about avoiding first-past-the-post elections - I advocated Alba standing in the Rutherglen by-election as long as Alex Salmond was the candidate, because in that scenario they wouldn't have been spoilers, they could have taken a very significant vote share and generated momentum that might have really got them off the ground.  I also think it's reasonable to say that sitting Alba MPs have every right to defend their seats if they wish to do so.  But if you stand in a large number of first-past-the-post seats where you're likely to get a very small vote share, the effect will probably be counter-productive.

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51 comments:

  1. How about targeting the very worst of the SNP’s much too cosy in Westminster MPs? They’re nationalist in name only. Losing their fiefdoms is only justice for what good they’ve done for Scotland.

    Frankly, if Alba can’t field a candidate against Pete Wishart, I’ll be sorely disappointed. Whatever it takes to give him the heave ho is fair game to me.

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    1. "How about targeting the very worst of the SNP’s much too cosy in Westminster MPs?"

      That would be the most monumentally stupid thing of all. To deliberately try to replace an SNP MP with a Tory, and succeed? The independence movement would never, ever forgive us.

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    2. I hear you, James, and not long ago I would have agreed with you. But I’m sick of the SNP blocking the way to independence for its own parliamentary party’s comfort and convenience. They play us Yessers for fools, and we *owe* them nothing.

      I’ve no fondness for George Galloway but worth mentioning the coincidence that he made much the same call when being sworn into parliament today. He’s targeting tight Labour seats, like Angela Rayner’s, with the explicit goal to knock their MPs out:

      https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/04/george-galloway-sworn-in-as-rochdale-mp-after-byelection-victory

      I’m sure you think it’s madness from him, too. But you get the commonality of purpose? We’re angry and we want revenge.

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    3. No, I don't think it's wrong to stand against Labour MPs, even in the tightest of seats. The difference is that independence is a prize worth having and a Labour government under Starmer is not. If I was a voter in England I would look for any conceivable left-wing alternative to Labour in the constituency.

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    4. The more SNP MPs lose their jobs, the stronger the force on the party to CHANGE COURSE NOW.

      This English parliamentary pantomime must stop.
      We need a new focus on independence.
      We need a new leader.
      We need our party back.
      Nicola's crew must go.

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    5. "Our party" is an odd way of describing a party you're setting out to destroy.

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    6. Anon at 9.09am - I would have thought the post was clear. "Nicola's crew must go. " The SNP have been infiltrated by grifters and Britnats.

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    7. I agree Sturgeon’s lot need to go.

      As an aside though, what would we give right now for someone with her leadership qualities.

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    8. I totally disagree with you James, If I thought ALBA would be a List only party I would not have bothered to join. When the Rutherglen no show, suggested they were a List pop-up party, I nearly left on the spot. Salmond now seems to have changed his tune, and come round more to my point of view. ALBA should max out their candidate numbers in the general election. SNP offer no progress on Indy, why would you want such people winning seats, it is the equivalent of London Lab our winning, how do you see a difference?

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    9. @9:09

      The SNP should be the party of independence. It should appeal to all of us, across the movement.

      What it absolutely mustn't be is an instrument of continued British rule.

      Now, take a breath and tell us which one it is.

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    10. June: That's a garbled potted history that is wrong in almost every respect. Alba was a list-only party at the outset and so presumably you knew that when you joined. The announcement of non-participation in Rutherglen was explicitly tied to an announcement of a "significant intervention at the general election", so again, you must have known that at the time unless you didn't read the press release or the reporting of it. You must also know that there has been no change of heart since Rutherglen, merely a continuation of precisely the strategy set out before the by-election.

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    11. @10.41: Literally all I was saying is that you can't try to defeat a party and still call it "ours". Not a controversial point, I wouldn't have thought.

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    12. Anon at 11.21am - check your post - you said destroy not "defeat" - completely different meaning. So you think wrongly.

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    13. James, You got me thinking, how did I get the idea of ALBA so wrong at the start? Can you show me where in the ALBA Constitution it states that ALBA is a list pop-up party had has no interest in UKGE's or Holyrood Constituency seats?

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    14. The current constitution didn't exist at the time. There are actually a few things in the constitution that differ a bit from the way the party initially presented itself. But I don't know how you could have missed the fact that Alba wasn't standing in *Holyrood* constituency seats - that was Day 1 information.

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    15. Ifs @12.54

      I'm sure you're an expert on many things but you do not know better than me what I meant by my own post.

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    16. Anon at 3.51pm - destroy means end the existence of something. Defeat means win a victory over something but not necessarily destroy it. Now you will know what you meant to say but the two ain't the same so clearly you misspoke and that was my point. Reading your mind - no thanks.

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  2. Standing in many seats is crucial for Alba to make its mark and be recognized by voters. It's not just about winning seats; it's about spreading our message and building our identity across the electoral map. While we might worry about spreading ourselves too thin, the bigger picture is about making sure people know who we are and what we stand for. So, standing everywhere isn't just a tactical move—it's about cementing our place in the political landscape.

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    1. And the Nader point? Nobody can deny the 2000 campaign massively boosted his profile. But he became known as a spoiler, and as a spoiler only, thus destroying his relationship with his target voters.

      By the way, I'm aware of no evidence that Alba will be "standing everywhere" and I trust and hope we won't be.

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    2. Nader's 2000 campaign talked about important issues that weren't getting much attention, like corporate power and the environment. Blaming him for everything that happened in that election ignores other big reasons, like the Supreme Court's decision and the messy recount in Florida. Plus, Nader might have encouraged more people to get involved in politics, which is a good thing. Standing in more seats, ALBA will bring to the polling station voters who would otherwise stay at home.

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    3. Sigh. I am not "blaming him for everything". I am pointing out that the *perception* from *his own target voters* that he was to blame for Bush's victory meant that his vote fell through the floor in 2004, and that Alba could suffer a similar fate if Yes supporters perceive them as having helped install multiple Labour MPs. If you can see an own goal coming a mile off, why go out of your way to score it?

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  3. Still no hope of Alba adopting abstentionism. Not another "strong voice in Westminster" lie
    surely.

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    1. I for one would *love* to support an abstentionist party of Scottish independence, and I'd favour them standing across the breadth of Scotland.

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    2. Anon at 7.46am - ISP have a policy of non attendance at Westminster.

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    3. That's good to know. Strange that I've not heard it's their position before, nor have I been offered an ISP candidate on any ballot that's ever been put in front of me as a voter.

      I have serious doubts ISP is viable. I’m not convinced Alba is either, but at least they've bothered to stand and I have gladly voted for them before.

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  4. Speaking of the general election, I'm seeing a lot of seat forecasts recently that put the Labour party on course for something ridiculous like >500 seats. With majorities almost the size of the Commons itself.
    I'm curious what you think would happen in such a scenario James, and what that would mean for the indy movement. Having a government for whom parliament is essentially an irrelevance, for whom even the slightest scrutiny or accountability would not practically exist doesn't really seem to be like it would actually engender the sort stability you'd expect from winning 550 odd seats.
    The situation in Scotland is important of course. But just as intriguing I think is the fact that the English may be about to accidentally break their own democracy, and ours along with it, by providing Starmer with an unassailable electoral dictatorship.

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    1. In such cases the opposition tends to come from within the large party.

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    2. But as Starmer is being every bit as Stalinist in the selection of Labour Party MPs as they accused Corbyn of wanting to be, I'm not really sure where that opposition is going to come from. Or if it would even matter. With a 400 seat majority Starmer gets his way in every single parliamentary vote. The Commons would be as well taking a five year hiatus while Starmer posts proclamations of his whims on the gates of Downing Street like royal announcements.

      Maybe they could even get the decrepit palace of Westminster back up to code in the time it wasn't in use.

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    3. Would be very surprised if the seat projections actually bear out in reality. I’d expect the Tories to pick up 100 seats at a minimum.

      But if they do bear out, one of the unintended consequences could be throwing the relationship between Starmer and the devolved governments into sharper relief. In that scenario they’d be the only parliamentary “opposition” and source of conflict he’d face on these islands.

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    4. Large and very large majorities are not very different in practice from each other.

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    5. The majorities being projected are astronomical. Well over a hundred more seats more than 1997, when Blair won 63% of seats. For context, the last projection I saw had Starmer on course to win 83% of seats. That's not just very large. That's absurd. At that stage any attempt at parliamentary scrutiny and accountability is out of the window.

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    6. Who's projections? Electoral Calculus by any chance? Baxter's a nice enough chap, but his model is mince, and always has been. He's missed election results big style before, yet his ever-wild projections are always good news for the fact-free media. NEW PROJECTION SHOWS LEABOUR LEDE NOW INFINITY! ;-)

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    7. Keep an ear out for Prof. Sir. Curtice's projections, instead. I believe he's still rigorous enough to do his own.

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    8. @9:29

      > one of the unintended consequences could be throwing the relationship between Starmer and the devolved governments into sharper relief. In that scenario they’d be the only parliamentary “opposition” and source of conflict he’d face on these islands.

      Good point. And in all fairness it should absolutely be the case. BUT there is no fairness in the media. They will give the Tories the lion's share of air-time and panel placements against the government, just as they did in Hague's years in the long grass. It's who they are and how they think. England didn't vote SNP / Plaid. Those cheeky chaps can sod off. Who speaks for England?

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    9. "Baxter's a nice enough chap"

      There speaks someone who has never met him.

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    10. It's too early to tell. The long-term effects are dependent upon which set of Tory MPs survive the election. If the one-nation bloc emerges with a majority, they could ditch Brexit. Or it'll be the mad-hatter faction which wants to try Truss' policies again. Perhaps their proportions will be maintained and they'll be constantly at each other's throats.

      If one or the other gains a majority, they can dominate the leadership election ensuring that the last two candidates sent to the membership are from their bloc. Subsequently, that leader has a lot of influence over the candidate selection process for all those marginal seats that Labour will be defending next time.

      Or they might be wiped out so hard that another party becomes the official opposition. Any of those outcomes are possible and they all have substantially different effects upon the future of the independence movement.

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    11. @9:06

      True! I've read his essays about how his model works before, and I did hear him on a podcast once—The Newstatesman was it?—where he mangled Scottish constituency names like a London pro. Seemed like a well meaning, M25 myopic numbers geek. But I judge him by his projections, which have been wildly off for as long as I've known.

      Edinburgh West: bastion of SNP GAIN since the days of Ashcroft Polls. Aye, one time, at the SNP's peak in 2015, back when they still believed in indy. Since then, not so much…

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    12. In 2015 the Lib Dems got the BBC to report they had held Edinburgh West, and they were actually wrong. Those were the days.

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  5. As a non party aligned lifelong supporter of independence, I’m very worried and confused about what Alba now stands for. I had thought (perhaps wrongly) it was formed to speed up the process of achieving independence by finding ways to put pressure on the SNP to act. Definitely something I heartily supported.
    Everything they now seem to be doing (or talking about doing) appears aimed at bringing the SNP to their knees and enable the unionist parties to win more Scottish seats. How will that help our cause? I completely agree with everything James has said about Alba’s current GE strategy. I will NEVER forgive Alba if their strategy causes the loss of more than a few SNP MPs to unionist parties of whatever political hue. It’s now very clear there are many non party aligned supporters of Scottish independence out there who will I’m sure feel the same.

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    1. Anon at 9.15pm - did you forgive the SNP for " Both Votes SNP" and " Vote SNP and no other " or is it just Alba that bugs you.

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    2. Non-aligned for a lifetime to the SNP. ;-)

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    3. IFS - Sorry but I’m afraid I don’t understand your point?
      Both the SNP and Alba (to a lesser extent the Greens) are in my view the only vehicles we have to achieve independence. If you accept that the SNP are currently best bet to do so quickly under whatever pressure we need to put them then yes if Alba do significant damage to that vehicle then yes I will NEVER forgive them

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    4. Anon at 6.42pm says " if you accept" - no I don't accept. 10 years of zero action on independence and plenty of bonkers policies designed to alienate voters SNP are now de facto Britnats.

      Both Votes SNP resulted in plenty of Labour/Libdem/ Tory MSPs in Holyrood.

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    5. IFS - so what or who is your “best bet” for us to achieve independence the quickest???

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  6. Yousaf says we need SNP MPs at Westminster standing up for Scotland. Most of the time I see them they are sitting down.
    What he should have added on to that sentence is " to infinity and beyond. The SNP cannae afford Scottish independence. Independence serves to keep the SNP continuing.

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  7. The only way forward is to have one, and only one, party united fighting for independence. It makes no sense to have more than one pro Indy party.

    Is Alba’s ultimate goal to replace the SNP as the pro Independence Party? If not, what is the point?

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    1. I think that is their idea now, yes. Though I don't think they have a chance at doing so.

      What's the only way forward when the only viable party of independence has been infiltrated by the Brits? Should we keep voting for it, do you think?

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    2. We have to get behind the SNP.

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    3. Indeed. A vote for any party other than the SNP is effectively a vote for the union. As is an abstention or spoiled ballot paper, of course.

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    4. Angus sure your surname isnae Robertson. 10 years on from 2014 the SNP under Sturgeon's gang have shown they are de facto Britnats.

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    5. With respect “Independence for Scotland “, I made a serious, sensible comment, and am a wee bit disappointed with your flippant response.

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