Friday, February 17, 2017

Westminster rocked as majority of Scottish public demands second independence referendum in earth-shaking Panelbase poll

As we've discussed on this blog a number of times, the recent Panelbase poll for the Sunday Times holds the world record for being more distorted more often by more people than any other poll in human history.  It showed that more than 49% of the public wanted a second independence referendum within a maximum of TWO YEARS, and yet it was somehow reported as showing that support for a referendum had "dropped to 27%".  Mercifully, for the new Panelbase poll commissioned by Wings, a new question format has been used, which will make such extreme misreporting somewhat harder (although I dare say not impossible).  There are now an equal number of pro-referendum and anti-referendum options offered - two on each side.  A total of 51.2% of respondents support a referendum taking place either before Britain leaves the EU, or afterwards.  A total of 48.8% of respondents either do not want a referendum to take place at any point, or think it should not happen for at least twenty years.

The observant among you will spot that this means there is a narrow majority in favour of holding another independence referendum within the foreseeable future - a finding that will prove rather problematic for unionist politicians and journalists the next time they say "the people of Scotland don't want a referendum, so get on with your day job".  It's also a reversal of the last Panelbase poll which found a razor-thin majority against an early referendum - although the change in format means that the two polls cannot be directly compared.  The previous wording was far from ideal, because it effectively forced anyone who didn't want a referendum within just two years to pick the anti-referendum option.

The most popular of the four individual options in the new poll is that there should be a referendum before Brexit occurs - a proposition supported by 32% of respondents.  On the face of it, that's an increase from the 27% of people in the previous poll who said they wanted a referendum before Brexit negotiations are concluded.  However, that poll specified (perhaps misleadingly) that this would entail a referendum within "one or two years", whereas the new poll doesn't.  That can probably explain much of the apparent increase, and just goes to show how susceptible people can be to little nudges from the question wording.  The misreporting of a "fall in support to 27%" a couple of weeks ago failed to take any account of the fact that the wording had just been changed from "two or three years" to "one or two years".

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The poll also found (unsurprisingly) that Flower of Scotland is the overwhelming choice for Scotland's national anthem, with Dougie MacLean's Caledonia in a distant second place.  However, this tune (Hey Tuttie Tatie, known in France as La Marche des Soldats de Robert Bruce) wasn't included as one of the options.  As we discussed a couple of years ago, in many ways it's our most natural anthem - it was supposedly played by the Scottish army prior to the Battle of Bannockburn, and also by the Scottish soldiers who fought for Joan of Arc at the Siege of Orléans.  For centuries, it served as unofficial national anthem due to the words of Scots Wha Hae being set to a slower version.  As you can hear in the above link, the faster version is much more inspiring.

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141 comments:

  1. I'd be against Flower of Scotland as the National Anthem. Too many proud Scots but sing it on the terraces but bottled it completely when they had the chance to 'rise now and be a nation again'.

    Now's the day and now's the hour.

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    1. What a beautiful march. I'd change the dreary Flower of Scotland for that. It is amazing to read in the comments below the vid that it is widely played in France and other EU countries. Yet I have not heard it in UK.

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    2. I was against Flower of Scotland partly because it begins with the same phrase as "Va pensiero", the chorus of the Hebrew slaves from Verdi's Nabucco. I saw that as a mournful downbeat tune. Hanging our harps on the willows and all that.

      But then when we sang Va pensiero at choir it was explained to us that this had become something of a rallying call for oppressed, disinherited peoples worldwide, and certainly in Europe. I began to see it differently. THEN I read that the resemblance at the beginning of Flower of Scotland isn't accidental at all but was deliberate on the part of the song-writer, evoking the melody of Va pensiero for precisely that reason.

      I still don't like it, but I understand the background better.

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  2. Hey Tuttie Tatie would get my vote, a stirring positive tune.

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    1. Yes, me too. If it needs new words then so be it, although I'd have thought that words by Burns were kind of iconic. But if we don't use that tune we're bloody insane.

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    2. A big plus for me is that Hey Tuttie Tattie can be played on the bagpipes, while Flower of Scotland apparently can't (although I have heard a piper play it correctly). Perhaps someone with more knowledge of music than I have can explain why. What's more perplexing is that while I can accept many variations in the notes played in many different variations of most tunes, I just can't be comfortable with (in the key of G for example) the playing of F(sharp) instead of F(natural) on the word "think". Again, perhaps someone can explain.

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  3. Just listened to your link.
    What a beautiful, stirring tune. It gets my vote.
    Reading the comments below, it is also used by the French Foreign Legion.

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  4. Very certainly, Flower of Scotland. Perhaps need a little wording change AFTER Scotland's freedom.

    Remember the ENG/Brit anthem went through various word changes over the years.

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  5. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 12:09 PM

    Did not know that thick Jocks fought for joan of arc.

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    1. As you are an ignoramus you are stating the obvious.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 2:34 PM

      Not entirely ignorant. I do know who won the referendum 19 September 2014.
      Do you?

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    3. State of this.

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  6. Marche des soldats de Robert Bruce is too dirge like to my liking. Theme for the Early Days of a Better Nation as sung by Jackie McGuckian is more emotive and aspiration, and with a wee bit of tweaking to reflect circumstances, deserves more consideration.

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  7. We should come up with a new anthem that rips off the Russian on. The Oceania anthem from the film 1984 is good too.

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    1. Nothing beats "State Anthem of the USSR" done to a T in the film "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" at the ChristmasParty.

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  8. I want something that gets people bouncing, feet tapping, and young folk inspired, instead of shortbread tin music.

    Caledonia, or perhaps a piper version of Restless Natives. Maybe even Runrig's Loch Lomond.

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    1. The thing is, though, a national anthem is just a tune and lyrics. It's not a specific arrangement, let alone a specific band. If you had Flower of Scotland sung by The Corries at a million miles an hour as they used to do it, nobody would ever call it a dirge.

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  9. 'Flower of Scotland' is a good song - but not for an anthem, Too like a dirge, too negative for an anthem. Me - I'd go for 'Scotland Will Flourish'... It's so positive and describes Scotland and Scots as the hard working, friendly, innovative, welcoming, clever, strong, caring survivors that we truly are. An abused partner but one with a heart to forgive and move on...

    "Scotland will flourish by the sweat of our labour
    The strength of our will and the force of our mind
    Forget the old battles, those days are over
    Hatred corrupts and friendship refines.

    So let us be known for our kind hospitality
    Wi' a hand that is openly proffered to friends
    A hard working people, proud and unbending
    Scotland will thrive and win out in the end."

    That describes 'my' Scotland.

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    1. The problem with this kind of song is that it kinda implies that other peoples are not hardworking, proud or hospitable.

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    2. But National anthems by definition are not concerned with other peoples, only our own.

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    3. Why not "Scotland the Brave"?

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    4. StB feels a bit light for a national anthem

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  10. I found the Marche des Soldats highly emotionally charged and inspirational perhaps because it was the first time I had heard it played this way and also due to the Scots Wha Hae references.
    I would vote for it.

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  11. Given Scotland's present circumstances I think
    We're No Awa Tae bide Awa would be apt.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 6:10 PM

      Ah belang tae Glesga is far better.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 9:36 PM

      I prefer West End Boys by the Pet Shop Boys

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 11:07 PM

      I prefer drap yer drawers east end girls.

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  12. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 6:08 PM

    You could keep in with your new German pals and make it the Horst Wessell. Die Fahre hoch.

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    1. No, dearie, that's for ultra-right-wing wingnuts like you. Now run along - those green-ink letters to the Dreary Heil won't write themselves.

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  13. "Freedom come all ye" has a great tune and inspiring words, not at all parochial and admitting our military part in the Empire was wrong.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIDqtL0s-w4

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 7:58 PM

      Scots would be standing on top of each other if it was not for expanding the Empire....Just a small country we are but our ancestors were breeding faster than rabbits. It was only natural our surplus went to war with fixed bayonets and formed the Empire. The English could never have done it on their own.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 9:30 PM

      How can you stand up if your on your knees is your real name Neil?

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    3. Freedom come all ye, isn't that tune actually called "The Barren Rocks of Aden" or something like that. I like the tune well enough, but there's too much baggage. McLean meeting with friends in Springburn? I mean what's that all about, and who's going to understand it in 50 years time?

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    4. Sorry, the bloody fields of Flanders. I think.

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  14. Totally agree about Hey Tuttie Tatie (La Marche des Soldats de Robert Bruce). A very inspiring tune with the gravitas to be a national anthem. Here's a shorter version of it.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4GYTy_AC-c&index=1&list=PLCB95C4883BF16B80

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  15. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 8:40 PM

    God Save the Queen is appropriate. The Queen is our head of state and has done an exemplary job for Britain and is highly regarded by most Scots at home and abroad. Even the Nat sis pretend they want to keep the Monarchy such is her popularity.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 9:22 PM

      I really enjoy getting my arse leathered by a chinless wonder to the tune of GSTQ

      WATP GSTQ NO SURRENDER

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  16. Don't presume a vote for a 2nd referendum is a vote for independence. I'd have one in the next six months so NO would win, it would kill off the SNP and to allow the rest of us to get on with improving the place

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  17. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 9:16 PM

    It has to be God Save The Queen out of respect for the old lady who has lost more colonies than any other person in the history of the yooniverse

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 9:20 PM

      Proud Scots Buts rolled over when she purred at indyref1 its their favourite song

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 9:45 PM

      The Fascist impersonator is back. Yawn. Probably an anti semite tae boot.

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    3. State of this.

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  18. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 9:57 PM

    Nights are ferr drawin in fur ra Jock Nat sis and the other MSP'S. Talkin shop bleedin workin people. Nae need fur them just like the MEP'S.
    Wake up Scots nows the time and nows the hour. They are mafia type pariahs who do not know what real work is.

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    1. Absolute bloody state of this anti-democratic roaster.

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  19. Ooofft! 50-43 lead for no - 13th no lead in a row. This despite brexit and Theresa May telling us it will be proper 'ard!

    Back to the drawing board I guess, lol!

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  20. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 10:46 PM

    John Swinney says Scottish education needs to improve. The Nat sis have been in power for dunkies years. The Scottish parliament has failed since the fash taking power.
    The Nat sis are deliberately keeping our children docile and blaming the English for their failure.

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    1. We should meet at our favourite gloryhole

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 17, 2017 at 11:17 PM

      I'll see you soon

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2February 18, 2017 at 12:41 AM

      Braindead joke of the North reduced to impersonator and no thought or argument. The Nat sis must have something going for them besides collecting inflated salaries and conning the Scottish people. SURELY fur fuck sake.

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2February 18, 2017 at 8:35 PM

      Vote Yes in the coming Referendum.

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  21. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/michaelgreenwell.wordpress.com/2014/06/25/theme-for-the-early-days-of-a-better-nation/amp/?client=safari

    Theme for the early days of a better nation

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  22. Who would have thunk the Jock Nat sis would have attempted to collaborate with Herman and sell Scotland oot. Bastards selling oot the memory of our troops that fought fascism.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 18, 2017 at 10:29 PM

      Keep the blanket over yer heid and inhale deeply. I fash less.

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    2. State of this.

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2February 19, 2017 at 10:14 AM

      Knickerless aboot tae announce the referendum! Followed by the new Scottish currency, economic master plan etc etc etc. Border controls and immigration policy. A break from Tory policies! Nationalisation of public transport and energy companies. Nationalise without compensation rogue landlord properties. Dreamer nuffin but a dreamer.

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2February 19, 2017 at 10:23 AM

      Vote no and save the shipyard fash Nat sis jocko thickos

      https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/12/scottish-jobs-protected-mod-awards-shipbuilding-contract-clyde-bae-systems

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    5. Lord Nelson DeceasedFebruary 19, 2017 at 11:08 AM

      Thought you fash wanted to leave the Union and leave behind British imperialism
      Give the contracts to Portsmouth and salvage your conscience!.

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    6. Absolute bloody state of this. Cheltenham must have mixed up the rota again.

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  23. that is Ace !!! ... have never heard it before .... but I'm sold on it !! ... sounds great.

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  24. Glasgow Working Class 2February 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM

    Vote no and save tax office jobs fash Nat sis jocko thickos

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/yes-vote-would-risk-8000-jobs-at-tax-offices-north-of-the-border-9737704.html

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    1. So the Nat sis will retain the tax jobs north of the border?

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    2. Holy mother of God, it's answering its own posts. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the high calibre of our opponents' arguments. Stop laughing at the back...

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2February 19, 2017 at 6:45 PM

      Sounds like songs of praise, holy mother of what! Knobend.

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    4. In its impotent rage and blind hatred, it is only to be pitied.

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  25. Glasgow Working Class 2February 19, 2017 at 6:54 PM

    Sucked i eejit jocko fash nat sis

    You shit it at the inyref1 and look what happened
    The jobs disappeared anyway better luck next time cowards

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-34798266

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  26. Anonymous, whits it like being buggered besides the slant eyes and buck teeth?

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  27. Glasgow Working Class 2February 19, 2017 at 10:08 PM

    We delivered the Vow Jocko Fash Nat sis stop your remoaning and get on with it

    https://www.ft.com/content/a6869f26-1c83-11e4-98d8-00144feabdc0

    Scottish Labour has proposed giving Holyrood the power to vary income tax by 15p in the pound, but not the power to cut the top tax rate on its own.

    The Scottish Tories have gone further, proposing to give Scotland full power over income tax rates and bands, and making the Scottish government responsible for raising about 40 per cent of its budget.

    The Lib Dems have gone the furthest, advocating giving Scotland power over income tax, inheritance and capital gains tax and replacing the Act of Union with a declaration of federalism.

    While the three parties’ proposals differ in important detail, the declaration is intended to make clear that all are determined to deliver more devolution.

    “We shall put those visions before the Scottish people at the next general election and all three parties guarantee to start delivering more powers for the Scottish parliament as swiftly as possible in 2015,” the declaration says.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 19, 2017 at 10:26 PM

      And your point Anonomous impersonator?

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  28. Glasgow Working Class 2February 19, 2017 at 11:23 PM

    Fake News Fake Posting by Jock Fash Nat sis on here. Some with nae brain or personal integrity to express their opinion. Just hiding behind a facade like Nazis do.... Ho Hum up yer Kilts fash.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 12:12 AM

      My hero the Hon David Cameron

      "We have always been a country that reaches out. That turns its face to the world…

      "That leads the charge in the fight for global trade and against protectionism.

      "This is Britain today, as it’s always been:Independent, yes - but open, too.

      "I never want us to pull up the drawbridge and retreat from the world.

      "I am not a British isolationist.

      "I don’t just want a better deal for Britain. I want a better deal for Europe too.

      ..."Continued access to the Single Market is vital for British businesses and British jobs.

      "Since 2004, Britain has been the destination for 1 in 5 of all inward investments into Europe.

      "And being part of the Single Market has been key to that success.

      ..."Because I believe something very deeply. That Britain’s national interest is best served in a flexible, adaptable and open European Union and that such a European Union is best with Britain in it.

      "Over the coming weeks, months and years, I will not rest until this debate is won. For the future of my country. For the success of the European Union. And for the prosperity of our peoples for generations to come."


      THe best British Politician of his generation to come out of bullingdon.

      knickerless is in the shade against this colossus, fash Nat sis jocko eejits

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 12:51 AM

      Fake News above from the Nat si Jock impersonator who would sell our Scottish nation oot tae the highest bidder. Pure fascist scum it is.

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    3. In your impotent rage and blind hatred, you deserve only pity.

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  29. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 1:12 AM

    Time fur bed now. The bawbag impersonator above at 12.12am should be advised that Cameron and Osborne are not in power now. Get it toss pot! The game has changed and yer wee knickerless incontinence bag has no say now. The British voted oot and that decision will be backed politically and if necessary military by the British. It is called democracy ya Nat si anti English rascist. Get it up ye and I look forward tae ra referendum shitebag. Use yer ain nom ya wanker.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 1:50 AM

      Here in America, a foreign head of government was on the majority of our front pages, but it wasn’t Theresa May. Instead, Mexico’s president Enrique Pena Nieto, was pictured on the front page of the New York Times, which didn’t even mention May above or below the fold. Pena Nieto was also on the cover of the Washington Post, again without a single reference to May’s visit. The Chicago Tribune featured the Mexican-American conflict as its headline, with May excluded from the front page again. But perhaps most shockingly, it got only the briefest mention – in a sidebar – on the front page of venerable conservative-leaning business paper the Wall Street Journal.

      Even with British journalists on US television, she wasn’t the primary story: the BBC’s Katty Kay joined MSNBC’s breakfast programme Morning Joe, where May’s visit got only the briefest mention in the third hour. In the nine o’clock hour, former MP Louise Mensch joined MSNBC, where again May’s visit was not a primary talking point.

      bow down and grovel jocko thicko Fash Nat sis in the munificence of the sexiest prime minister in living memory

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    2. In its impotent rage and blind hatred, it is only to be pitied.

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 11:14 AM

      More tae be pitied than scolded fash bhoy.

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    4. We forgive you.

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  30. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 11:20 AM

    Herald says academics (dead clever people innatt) claim if Scotland wins indyref we could be fast tracked into the EU. Probably because we are a special race uz Jocks.

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    1. In your impotent rage and blind hatred, you deserve only pity.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 8:22 PM

      We are having another get together soon if your interested in Scottish Bronies you can contact me through

      http://www.scottishbronies.co.uk/

      WATP GSTQ NO SURRENDER

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  31. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 8:44 PM

    The Nazis have lost it. GOOD. Kim Jung Eck looking like he has wan fit in the grave. Well fash impersonators what have you got? Knickerless and her Nat si pal Frau Merkel being impersonated by Tracy Ullman. Is that it you fascist scumbags. At least we can laugh at your tragedy.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 9:01 PM

      As a major mover and shaker in the furry scene I thought I might tempt you Nat sis to come to the other side.

      Many furries have a hard time relating to the inhumane things most humans do, and long for a simpler life free of the greedy, selfish, thoughtless, uncaring, unthinking, and unintelligent individuals that make up the majority of the human race. These furries have a hard time seeing themselves as part of a race of people whose actions are completely nonsensical, and try to distance themselves from it.
      Furries, as a group, tend to be sensitive, emotional individuals, who are very accepting of others, and don't like to see people hurt. This isn't to say this is a requirement for being furry, but it does describe a significantly greater portion of furries than of the general population.

      come and join us fash Nat sis Jocko thickos

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 9:39 PM

      Sad impersonator above and not really all that amusing. Raise yer game fash.

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 10:07 PM

      We are having our monthly Urolagnia help Group at the Louden tavern tomorrow night. all newbies welcome.

      See you there Fash Nat Sis jocko thickos

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 10:30 PM

      Goodness me James bigotry showing its head from an impersonator. I am sure this will be noted by the No voters when and if the Nat sis have the bottle to call a referendum. Seems the reality of the Nat sis is emerging!

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    5. "Waah! Waah! Help me, James! I can dish out slagging but can't take it in return! Shut my critics up! Waaaaaaahhhh!"

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  32. Well, I'm now officially a tory. I joined the Scottish Conservatives tonight. Our leader, Ruth Davidson (peace be upon her) will hopefully smash the separatists. And my 20 quid should be of good use too :0)

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    1. Poodle Theresa and her Kipper TrumpetsFebruary 21, 2017 at 2:30 PM

      “You don’t get a referendum for free, you have to earn it. So if the Greens and the SNP – and the SSP or any of the other parties who’ve declared an interest in independence – get over the line and can make a coalition, make a majority, get the votes in the Parliament, then they’ll vote through a referendum, and that’s what democracy’s all about… it’s perfectly simple”

      “it would be wrong for the Tories to stand in the way” of another referendum “if the SNP gets a democratic mandate from the public”.

      - Ruth Davidson

      Ruth Davidson today demanded access to the single market be placed at heart of Britain's Brexit negotiating strategy.
      Speaking at a Westminster lunch shortly after meeting Theresa May for the first time since the Home Secretary became Tory leader, Ms Davidson said Scotland's businesses were 'kept afloat' by the EU free trading zone.

      Asked what her vision for Brexit is, Ms Davidson said: 'There is a real danger of the Government going forward and no matter what it is they negotiate, and it's not just about Britian writing a list and getting everything, it's about having negotiations, there will be some kind of betrayal narrative.

      'In terms of what I think Brexit looks like and should look like, for me the one thing I have said right from the beginning I want access to the single market.

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  33. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 10:15 PM

    James, as the blogmaster you could urge the Nat sis to be progressive and if that is not possible at least request they have the audacity to use their own plume.
    However I appreciate and know you Nat sis are on the run and are in difficult times.

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    1. "Waah! Waah! Help me, James! I can dish out slagging but can't take it in return! Shut my critics up! Waaaaaaahhhh!"

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  34. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 10:47 PM

    Yanks are officially the largest purchasers of our whisky. An 8 year old Donald would be an investment. Kim Jung and Knickerless will be history.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 20, 2017 at 11:31 PM

      Sadomasochism can give similar results to meditation and leave people in an 'altered state of consciousness', new research has found.
      Experts believe the practice may cause bloodflow in the brain to be altered is a way similar to a 'runners high' or some types of meditation.
      They also found that both those giving and receiving pain felt similar effects.

      Those who practised S&M also reported feeling less anxiety than others.
      One study, published in May 2013, found that practitioners of BDSM had more secure relationships and lower anxiety than the general public.
      'Part of the reason these SM activities may be so extreme, at some level, is that they're particularly effective at causing the brain to change its distribution of blood flow.



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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 12:19 AM

      Do you need medical attention? The blogger cannot be held accountable!

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 2:13 AM

      A senior Papal adviser has pulled out of the Pope's UK visit after saying arriving at Heathrow airport was like landing in a "Third World" country.

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 2:30 AM

      Against all odds, Pope Francis’s Church (and its diplomacy) still believe in the possibility of reviving the peace process in the Middle East through to the resumption of “direct negotiations between the involved parties, in order to bring an end to the violence that is causing unacceptable suffering to the civilian population and to reach a just and lasting solution.”

      Last Saturday, a few hours before the totally useless Paris conference on the Middle East -- without the participation of Israel, clearly against the initiative promoted by François Hollande -- the Pope met Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) in Rome, who inaugurated the new embassy to the Holy See, an opening that follows the agreement between the two states in 2015.

      According to the Vatican, the meeting rekindled hopes of a resumption of direct negotiations and that “with the support of the international community” it would be possible to “undertake measures to promote mutual trust and contribute to a climate that allows to take bold decisions in favor of peace.”

      Abbas also met Secretary of State Pietro Parolin, with Paul Gallagher, the Vatican’s Secretary for Relations with States, while the embassy inauguration ceremony, just outside the Leonine walls, was attended by the Secretary of State’s substitute, Archbishop Angelo Becciu.
      “The Vatican has fully recognized Palestine as an independent state, I hope that other states will take their example from the Holy See,” said Abbas.

      On the sidelines, the participants commented on the US president-elect Donald Trump’s proposal to transfer the US embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem: “It is a violation of international law and a violation of UN resolutions, but we hope that what Trump said during the election campaign will be different from what he does when he enters the White House,” said Palestinian ambassador to Italy Mai Alkaila.

      The agreement between the Holy See and Palestine -- centered on the idea of a “Two State Solution” -- caused resentment from Israel, that suspended the periodic meeting with the Holy See on tax issues and on the use of the Cenacle, also known as the “Upper Room” where Christ is traditionally believed to have held the Last Supper.

      Tensions have now eased and in the next few days the two delegations (with the Vatican delegation led by Under-secretary for Foreign Affairs Msgr. Antoine Camilleri) will once again meet in Israel.
      Sources close to the negotiations say they are hopeful that an agreement will be reached soon.


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    5. Get yer haun oot off ma nappy Father.February 21, 2017 at 10:55 AM

      The vatican where everyone is called Wodger or Ben Dover.

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  35. Poodle Theresa the TrumpetteFebruary 21, 2017 at 2:35 PM

    Gary Shteyngart ‏@Shteyngart

    Sweden stood with us after Bowling Green. Today we stand with Sweden.

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  36. On the anthem issue, I'd be keen to avoid Flower of Scotland. There are plenty options for tunes that are as good as the average one: for example 1. Scots Wha Hae, 2. Hey Tuttie Tattie, 3. A Man's a Man.., 4. Freedom Come A Ye, or perhaps even 5. Auld Lang Syne).

    I don't think that we could use the existing words of any of these for a sung anthem - with different reasons for each. 1. & 2. too much militaristic. 3. good sentiments, by people will never remember all the words. 4. very good sentiments, but expressed in language that is no longer familiar enough to most people. 5. I think that we could be cheeky enough to reclaim the tune, but to put other peoples (nationalities) singing Auld Lang Syne in a position where they were also singing Scotland's national anthem - that would be internationally culturally antisocial.

    Based on other work that I have seen from her, I'd have some confidence in the present Makar's ability to take any of these tunes, and produce words that express modern aspirations (to which I think Freedom Come A Ye comes closest) in a language that is distinctively Scottish but readily sung by all participants (except those who'd choke on anything but God Save the Queen/King).

    In passing I wish that there was some filter that would show only 1 or perhaps, optionally 2, comments from any one respondent.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 9:52 PM

      Send them hame tae think again! Sounds fascist tae me! And the flower of Scotland has immigrated tae foreign lands.

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    2. Go back to Breitbart.

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  37. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 9:48 PM

    Knickerkess the wee fudd is now saying the EU is not the issue now. How much of this crap are you Nat sis prepared to up with put. You are being taken tae ra cleaners by the MEPs, MP'S and MSP money grabbers. Meanwhile food banks swelling and begging on the streets at an all time high. You Nat sis are like a fuckin religion following brain dead bunch a numpties. Wee Knickerless provides the fishes and bread and Kim Jung Eck walks on water.

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    1. Tory Twat Sockpuppet Class 2February 21, 2017 at 10:02 PM

      Piss off you racist witless twat

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    2. Trump's Golden Shower of KippersFebruary 21, 2017 at 10:04 PM

      The westminster MP expenses scandal, which the scottish public will not soon forget, was utter dominated by Labour and the Tories sucking the taxpayer dry for Duck Houses and Moats.

      Nigel Farage is a public schoolboy multi-millionaire who used to be a stockbroker in the city of London. In other words, HE IS THE ELITE you dumbass.

      Theresa May is Oxbridge educated, is also a multi-millionaire who used to work for the Bank of England. THAT is the very DEFINITION of the ELITE you clueless twat.

      She's also married to a hedge fund mogul overseeing more than a Trillion in investment funds. VERY working class.

      Blair and Brown tour the US, Middle East and Europe selling their 'services' to the highest bidder (tens of millions earned from Dictators and Banks) while the Labour party just keeps right on making Labour Lords because the House of Lords is REALLY working class. LOL

      Face it, you yourself have about as much in common with the working class as David Cameron did because you're a witless kipper sockpuppet with the IQ of a peanut.

      Now fuck off back to your racist chums on stormfront lite.

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 10:48 PM

      And where were you Edjikated and what do you earn Jock Nazi Bhoy. How much is your season ticket?

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 11:54 PM

      I luv Trump coz he is a edjikated super rich member of the elite.

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  38. Poodle Theresa the TrumpetteFebruary 21, 2017 at 10:06 PM

    Gary Shteyngart ‏@Shteyngart

    Sweden stood with us after Bowling Green. Today we stand with Sweden.

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  39. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 10:43 PM

    The Nazi losers crawlin oot of their crypts. How did such scum actually arrive in Scotland!
    No one with the exception of braindead Nazi followers believes anything you scum say.
    YER TIME IS UP FASH.

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    1. Trump's Golden Shower of KippersFebruary 21, 2017 at 10:48 PM

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 11:55 PM

      Scotland would have been abandoned to the Germans according to new research.

      Military commanders in London were prepared to ignore "screams from Scotland" in order to give England "total priority".

      The revelation is made in a book, If Hitler Comes, which also exposes a prominent Scottish MP's membership of a secret far-right group and suggests that the county of Angus was a hotbed for pro-Nazi traitors.

      Historian Gordon Barclay has examined declassified documents to shed new light on Scotland's wartime role.

      He discovered that Field Marshall Sir Edmund Ironside, the man Churchill chose to mastermind Britain's defences, believed Scotland would have to be sacrificed to a Nazi invasion.

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 11:57 PM

      Blaming the limited resources available to him, Field Marshall Ironside insisted that "England should receive total priority for defence". Churchill shared these views, the book claims.

      Mr Barclay also claims Angus was infiltrated by "fifth columnist" traitors. He said: "Montrose's MP, Lieutenant Colonel Charles Kerr, was a member of the Right Club, a secret society founded by Captain Archibald Maule Ramsay, Unionist MP for Peeblesshire.

      "The sons of the Duke of Montrose were also active in extreme Right-wing politics, while the Montrose Standard had welcomed a violently pro-Nazi lecture in the town in January 1939 as "one of the most stimulating addresses".

      Captain Ramsay was the only parliamentarian to be interned during the war because of fascist sympathies.

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 11:58 PM

      Ms Morgan warned that the Government could not simply ignore its promises to the electorate.

      “The Conservative party manifesto, on which we were elected only 17 months ago, has a very clear statement in it about ‘we say yes to the single market’ and it talks about ‘we will safeguard British interests in the single market’,” she told Sky News.

      “That’s something the Government cannot ignore, the Conservative party, my Conservative colleagues cannot ignore we stood on a manifesto saying that."

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  40. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 10:58 PM

    Some wee Jock Mc Fascists seem tae mention Jews and Israel on occasion. Seems their hatred of the English extends tae Mr Cohen..
    However any diversion from a second Jock referendum seems to be on the cards.

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    1. Kipper Fuckwit Class 2February 21, 2017 at 11:51 PM

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 12:01 AM

      They waited 300 years to have their own tartan, but for the 6,400 Jewish people living in Scotland there has finally been a victory.
      A rabbi initiated the process of the officially registered plaid, meaning Scottish Jews can now dance their jigs in officially registered attire.
      The tartan, featuring distinctive tones of navy and burgundy, is a kosher non wool-linen mix which abides by shatnez - the Jewish law prohibiting the mixture of wool and linen in garments.
      Religious experts and tartan authorities worked together to come up with a design that represent both Jewish values and Scottish history.
      The tartan is registered with the Scottish National Register of Tartan in the name of the Jewish Community of Scotland.
      The colours, weave, and number of threads have all been picked for their importance in Judaism.
      The tartan design features blue and white, the colours of both the Israeli and Scottish flags, with the central gold line representing the gold from the Ark in the Biblical Tabernacle.
      The silver is to represent the silver that adorns the Scroll of the Law, while the red depicts the traditional Kiddush wine.
      There are seven lines in the central motif and three in the flag representations - both numbers of great significance in Judaism
      Rabbi Mendel Jacobs - the only Scottish-born Rabbi living in Scotland - chose the kosher tartan.

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  41. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 11:11 PM

    Hoose of Lords still sitting debating brexit. 200 ambulances waiting ootside tae take them home. Meanwhile the Joke Nat si MP'S are trying tae get Kim Jung Eck tae buy a round in the Red Lion. A poor person noted the Jocks were always first at the bar but their credit cards had expired.

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    1. Kipper Racist Class 2February 21, 2017 at 11:51 PM

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 11:53 PM

      Anger Style: Self-Abuse
      What it looks like: "It's my fault he doesn't help me. I'm a terrible wife." You find a way to make everything your fault, every single time.
      Why you might do it: Somewhere along the line, your self-esteem took a beating and you decided that sometimes it's just safer and easier to be mad at yourself than at someone else.
      The damage: Constantly turning angry feelings inward can set you up for continued disappointments and even depression.

      How to Turn It Around
      Question yourself. Every time you feel the urge to assume blame, start by asking yourself, "Who told me I was responsible for this?" Then ask, "Do I really believe that?" Instead of accepting all responsibility, thank yourself for recognizing the pattern in the first place.
      Work on your self-worth. Make a list of your positive qualities. Developing a genuine sense of worthiness is a critical step in overcoming self-blame. Seek out a professional if you need more help in working around this issue.

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    3. Glasgow Working Class 2February 21, 2017 at 11:56 PM

      I luv Trump coz he is a edjikated super rich member of the elite who cries like a baby whenever anyone says a bad thingz about him.

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    4. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 12:06 AM

      Generous Scots appear to have debunked the old stereotype that they are stingy misers as they give more to charity than the average Englishman and a third more than Londoners.
      The Ipsos Mori poll released today found Scottish households with incomes of less than £150,000 gave away an average of £356 last year.
      Yet Londoners donated almost £100 less - £268 - despite earning 25 per cent more than the Scots.
      Overall Scotland is the most generous nation in the UK on average, followed by Wales on £328 and England on £285. Northern Ireland was not included in the survey.

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  42. Poodle Theresa the TrumpetteFebruary 21, 2017 at 11:52 PM

    Gary Shteyngart ‏@Shteyngart

    Sweden stood with us after Bowling Green. Today we stand with Sweden.

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  43. Trump's Golden Shower of KippersFebruary 22, 2017 at 12:02 AM

    In 1934, The Daily Mail began openly supporting the blackshirts; The British Union of Fascists, through its leader Oswald Mosley (himself heavily influenced by Mussolini, whom he met earlier in the decade). In 1934, the Mail wrote that the British Union of Fascists were:

    “…a well organised party of the right ready to take over responsibility for national affairs with the same directness of purpose and energy of method as Hitler and Mussolini have displayed”.


    In the 1934, Harold Harmsworth, 1st Viscount Rothermere, and owner of The Daily Mail flew to Germany, and met with Adolf Hitler. Here are the happy couple:

    Rothrmere.Hitler

    – This is at a time when Daily Mail editorials were used as propaganda, by the Nazis.

    In 1938, the Nazi owner of the Fascist-supporting, anti-British Daily Mail sent a telegram to Hitler to announce his support for the Nazi annexation of the Sudetenland. In it, Rothermere wrote:

    “My dear Fuhrer everyone in England is profoundly moved by the bloodless solution to the Czechoslovakian problem. People not so much concerned with territorial readjustment as with dread of another war with its accompanying bloodbath. Frederick the Great was a great popular figure. I salute your excellency’s star which rises higher and higher.”

    – Rothermere was fully supporting an apparent Nazi (not German) right to empire in Europe. The annexation of Sudetenland lead to its Jewish inhabitants rounded up and thrown into concentration camps, alongside any left leaning opposition in the territories. A month after Rothermere sent his telegram of support for the “bloodless solution”, Sudetenland and the rest of the Nazi empire experienced the truly horrific night of broken glass, in which 91 Jews were murdered, Jewish homes and businesses destroyed, and 30,000 Jewish men, women and children rounded up like animals and thrown into concentration camps.

    A letter from Rothermere in 1939 (six years into Nazi control of Germany, and thousands of political murders later) congratulated Hitler on his success in Prague, and urged him to move on to Romania. Rothermere had befriended and was paying a Nazi spy in Britain – Stephanie von Hohenlohe – to further his contacts in Nazi Germany, and pass correspondence between himself and the regime. The brutality of the regime at this late point was obvious.

    Rothermere and the Mail turned a blind eye to it.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 12:15 AM

      Ah soo it was not the Vatican, Mussolini and Adolf who did the Holocaust it was Rothermere. Mein Gott who wid have known. Help ma boab.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 12:36 AM

      Gary Shteyngart ‏@Shteyngart

      Sweden stood with us after Bowling Green. Today we stand with Sweden.

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  44. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 12:06 AM

    Poor Nat sis just talking tae themselves and friends or maybe the friend is themself. ..Sad Nazis.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 12:34 AM

      The Jerusalem PostVerified account‏@Jerusalem_Post 6h

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  45. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 12:34 AM

    n 1934, The Daily Mail began openly supporting the blackshirts; The British Union of Fascists, through its leader Oswald Mosley (himself heavily influenced by Mussolini, whom he met earlier in the decade). In 1934, the Mail wrote that the British Union of Fascists were:

    “…a well organised party of the right ready to take over responsibility for national affairs with the same directness of purpose and energy of method as Hitler and Mussolini have displayed”.


    In the 1934, Harold Harmsworth, 1st Viscount Rothermere, and owner of The Daily Mail flew to Germany, and met with Adolf Hitler. Here are the happy couple:

    Rothrmere.Hitler

    – This is at a time when Daily Mail editorials were used as propaganda, by the Nazis.

    In 1938, the Nazi owner of the Fascist-supporting, anti-British Daily Mail sent a telegram to Hitler to announce his support for the Nazi annexation of the Sudetenland. In it, Rothermere wrote:

    “My dear Fuhrer everyone in England is profoundly moved by the bloodless solution to the Czechoslovakian problem. People not so much concerned with territorial readjustment as with dread of another war with its accompanying bloodbath. Frederick the Great was a great popular figure. I salute your excellency’s star which rises higher and higher.”

    – Rothermere was fully supporting an apparent Nazi (not German) right to empire in Europe. The annexation of Sudetenland lead to its Jewish inhabitants rounded up and thrown into concentration camps, alongside any left leaning opposition in the territories. A month after Rothermere sent his telegram of support for the “bloodless solution”, Sudetenland and the rest of the Nazi empire experienced the truly horrific night of broken glass, in which 91 Jews were murdered, Jewish homes and businesses destroyed, and 30,000 Jewish men, women and children rounded up like animals and thrown into concentration camps.

    A letter from Rothermere in 1939 (six years into Nazi control of Germany, and thousands of political murders later) congratulated Hitler on his success in Prague, and urged him to move on to Romania. Rothermere had befriended and was paying a Nazi spy in Britain – Stephanie von Hohenlohe – to further his contacts in Nazi Germany, and pass correspondence between himself and the regime. The brutality of the regime at this late point was obvious.

    Rothermere and the Mail turned a blind eye to it

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 1:02 AM

      Pretend person I am Glesga and you are a fascist Natzi. You smell and your Kilt needs dry cleaning.

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    2. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 1:08 AM

      Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is a severe condition in which two or more distinct identities, or personality states, are present in—and alternately take control of—an individual. The person also experiences memory loss that is too extensive to be explained by ordinary forgetfulness

      DID reflects a failure to integrate various aspects of identity, memory and consciousness in a single multidimensional self. Usually, a primary identity carries the individual's given name and is passive, dependent, guilty and depressed. When in control, each personality state, or alter, may be experienced as if it has a distinct history, self-image and identity. The alters' characteristics—including name, reported age and gender, vocabulary, general knowledge, and predominant mood—contrast with those of the primary identity. Certain circumstances or stressors can cause a particular alter to emerge. The various identities may deny knowledge of one another, be critical of one another or appear to be in open conflict.

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  46. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM

    Marie Le Penn refuses to wear headscarf. Scottish male Nat sis in revolt. Get them aff Le Pen ye are just a wummin tae be shagged.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 1:48 AM

      In most cases, misogynists do not even know that they hate women. Misogyny is typically an unconscious hatred that men form early in life, often as a result of a trauma involving a female figure they trusted. An abusive or negligent mother, sister, teacher or girlfriend can plant a seed deep down in their brain’s subcortical matter.

      Once planted, this seed will germinate and begin to grow, the tiny root working its way into the fear processing and memory areas of the brain as its tiny stem works its way into frontal areas of the brain, affecting emotion and rational decision-making.

      The first signs of misogyny are barely noticeable, but with additional exposure to neglect, abuse, or lack of treatment, this behavioral seeding will grow larger and more prominent. But even when the misogyny reaches maturity and the tendency toward acting with hatred toward women can no longer be controlled, the misogynist and the women around him will often fail to notice the condition until it’s too late.

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  47. Unfortunately this site has now become more surreal than ever.

    To have GWC2 (and his numerous NdPs) now having ridiculous, nonsensical discussions with himself is simply allowing the inmate to run the asylum.

    Way past humorous!

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  48. Glasgow Working Class 2February 22, 2017 at 11:26 AM

    Tartan Tories change Jock tax plans under pressure from real Tories.

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  49. Ban allah and the burkaFebruary 22, 2017 at 11:42 AM

    Jock Nat sis form new extreme right wing anti Trump alliance with Islamists to be known as Jock & Mo.....Stop....Government give a million quid to Guantana Mo Bay terrorist.

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    1. To have GWC2 (and his numerous NdPs) now having ridiculous, nonsensical discussions with himself is simply allowing the inmate to run the asylum.

      Way past humorous!

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  50. We have a Jock sense of humour adjudicator now. Probably the same person who constantly impersonates GWC2.

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    1. Gary Dunion‏@garydunion Feb 20

      Makes me so angry. Scotland is losing the skills & friendship of this PhD biomedical scientist, and thousands like her, to placate racists.

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