"And to be honest, readers, living to see the truth finally come to light is the main driver that’s keeping this website going. There is no hope of Scottish independence under the current SNP."
The truth he's talking about is the truth about any conspiracy intended to put Alex Salmond in jail for crimes he did not commit.
For years now, Mr Campbell's fan club has screamed blue bloody murder at anyone who has dared to suggest that Wings is no longer a pro-independence blog, in spite of the fact that - a) Mr Campbell said he would abstain in any new referendum on independence, b) he urged his readers to vote Labour at the general election in July (which means, incidentally, that he is in no position to say anything at all about the betrayal of the WASPI women), c) he indicated at one point that he was planning to vote Conservative at the general election, d) he urged his readers to vote for unionist parties in certain constituency seats in the 2021 Holyrood election, and e) the vast bulk of his blogging and social media output for many years has been about the trans issue, and not about independence or anything even vaguely related to it. If it's going to be argued that Wings is pro-indy in spite of all that, it would have to be assumed there's some kind of grand plan on Mr Campbell's behalf to use his site to break through the barriers and pursue independence by a radical alternative route. But now we have it from the horse's mouth - there is no plan. He has no alternative ideas to offer. He's given up on independence, and Wings is now nothing more than a trans issues / Justice for Salmond / Vote Labour site.
There was a cartoon on Wings at the time of Nicola Sturgeon's resignation which showed her at a junction in a path, with one sign pointing to "INDEPENDENCE" and another sign pointing to "OTHER STUFF". She, naturally, was finding her feet drawn to the "OTHER STUFF" path. Mr Campbell is now eagerly following her down that road. Establishing the truth of what happened in the run-up to the Salmond trial is an important matter, but it has got nothing to do with independence and is not going to get us to independence. If it becomes the all-consuming focus of a part of (or rather a former part of) the independence movement, something has gone very seriously awry somewhere.
As readers will probably appreciate, I'm considerably more ambivalent about the planned legal action on behalf of Alex Salmond than I was a year ago, because I've since been trampled all over by the Alba Party without a shred of due process and seen the same thing happen to other good independence supporters, and I know (at least to some extent) which specific individuals played a direct role in that. It's become clear that certain people's high-minded talk about "justice" is only really about "justice for the powerful" or "justice for the famous" or "justice for people I'm related to", and is not at all about justice as a general principle that everyone can and should benefit from equally. Nevertheless, if there was a conspiracy to jail Mr Salmond for political reasons, that's disgraceful and it's entirely appropriate to use the courts to bring the facts to light. But that's something Mr Salmond's family and friends can and will pursue. For the rest of us, our laser-like focus must remain on the goal of independence. I know there was some concern among Alba members two or three weeks ago about an appeal from the party leadership for funding that didn't really make clear whether the funds would be used for Alba's political campaigning, or for the Salmond justice campaign. The two concepts seem to be getting muddled up in a really quite dangerous way.
One of the many reasons I was hoping Kate Forbes would defeat Humza Yousaf in the 2023 SNP leadership election is that it would finally have moved the independence movement away from the Salmond v Sturgeon faultline. John Swinney can't provide such a decisive break because everyone knows he's more associated with Sturgeon, but nevertheless there have been some encouraging signs - Swinney has distanced himself from the Greens and de-emphasised gender ideology in a way that Sturgeon would never have done, and he made an important healing gesture by attending the Salmond memorial service. Let's not squander that progress by trying to perpetuate an internal Cold War within the Yes camp that is now well past its sell-by date. We have a country to win, so let's get back to doing that.
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Well said . Salmond is nae longer with us and Sturgeon is , I guess , no longer a political force .
ReplyDeleteUnity is now what matters
Alba gu brath!
Anon at 2.53pm says:- " I guess" - any evidence backing up your guess?
DeleteAnon at 2.53pm also says:- " Unity is now what matters."
Unity is what always mattered. " The problem is the people who created the disunity need to go because they cannae be trusted.
Me again. By " I guess " I meant exactly that . In other words I'm not 100% certain. I thought that was obvious. I am not party to the inner workings of Sturgeon's mind.
DeleteAnd I don't disagree that there has been some in the movement causing disunity and that they need to stop the mischief.
IFS you really don't need to be so nitpicking!
Anon at 3.50pm. I didn't think it was nitpicking. Just showing a genuine interest in your post. If you don't want people to read your posts and think about what you said and then comment on it try putting - "Please Don't Read and Definitely Don't Comment on My Post" right at the start. So it is just a guess with no info to back it up. Fair enough.
DeleteOn the other hand I disagree. The appointment of Yousaf and then Swinney is evidence. The ongoing cover up of past misdeeds during the Sturgeon era is also more evidence.
IFS . Me again
DeleteI dont object to anyone's comments but I did think it was a bit silly .
I used the word " guess".
This word suggests that it's an opinion that might be wrong . Notwithstanding that , it is difficult to see where Sturgeon can now go and rumour has it that she is not likely to stand in HR2026. Whether or no her acolytes continue her arguably malign influence is another matter.
Alba gu brath!
Anon at 4.17pm. Fair enough. I do think it's strange however that people seem to forget that there are two people currently being investigated for perjury by the polis around these matters. There are a lot of people in deep with possible criminal charges in their future.
DeleteThere are a lot of anon posters on SGP who assured us that Yousaf was the leader to take us to independence. They also seem to have quietly forgotten about this as he departs aged 39 with his FM pension ( after one year ) for services rendered.
At risk of seeming like I'm missing the point people say guess when they mean suppose all too often. This looks like one of those cases, and it leads to misunderstanding.
DeleteI find the ‘justice for Salmond’ campaign bizarre. He got justice. He was cleared of all charges.
ReplyDeleteHe already won a judicial review.
There were complaints of harassment at work. These were used by his political opponents to ruin him but the complaints existed. Women did come forward. So yes his opponents made the most of the complaints
But it’s hard to see what good can come of the court case other than a financial benefit to his wife
Every action produces a reaction. The SNP aren’t going to sit quietly and let Salmond’s friends trash them. No doubt more details of his behaviour will be published.
As was said in court he was a bit over affectionate and his talk would be a borderline sexual but the problem for him is many women don’t put up with that behaviour anymore and complain
The behaviour isn’t criminal at all but it will make good headlines and tarnish his reputation more
Plus the case will not endear Alba to SNP voters who they need for the list vote
It won’t advance Alba or independence an inch
In fact the ongoing civil war is destructive to both
Salmond was never exonerated in the public mind; they created a smell about him. Just like you are now.
Delete- I don't know who you are but suppose I went around saying - oh aye, him, I heard a story from a guy I met in the town one night who said that YOU had done some dodgy stuff when you went to thailand on holiday and had to bin your phone ...
what do you say to these allegations?
- have they been completed disproved?
Fact : women lie, all the time, for all sorts of reasons, they have no sense of justice, shame or responsibility.
The alphabetties are group of women closely associated with Sturgeon. It would be obvious if we could name them ... but you aren't supposed to know who they are. Garavelli has publicly lied that there is no association - so let's name names.
A criminal conspiracy to put a man in jail for rape, is serious. Heads should roll.
There is no concrete evidence that the SNP are interested in independence post-Salmond, which is why they need to be gotten rid of; they are the weeds strangling new growth.
The irony is - when it comes to sexual crimes, the SNP is full of it; we have lesbians everywhere, predatory homosexuals, people who like to play grabass and blanket support for that youth gay scotland organisation, which is nothing more than a paedophile dating club.
A tell of the psychopath is to falsely accuse others of what they are guilty of.
"Fact : women lie, all the time, for all sorts of reasons, they have no sense of justice, shame or responsibility."
DeleteYou're not going to win friends and influence people that way. Some women lie, some men lie. It's not a gender thing.
Anon 4.14
DeleteWhat are you on ?
Anon at 3.48:
DeleteWas the first part of the post ghost-written by Kenny Farquharson, Neil Mackay or Euan McColm?
And there's definite problem thinking in the last section: Voters don't belong to the SNP. Voting for or joining a certain organisation is something individuals may choose to do on occasion. It's not genetic or profoundly cultural.
Agree. it’s all the women's fault argument should have been rejected out of hand. I would add that many people didn’t like Alex Salmond long before the allegations and trial. From memory proportionally more women. Either way Mr Salmond is no longer with us. Surely the best thing supporters of independence can do is get independence.
DeleteMoving forward let’s try an win a pro independence majority at Holyrood.
I agree with 4:14 PM. Women are terrible. We should only have men.
DeleteAnon @3.48pm. Was Patrick Grady guilty of a criminal offence and should he be smeared for the rest of his life? Why do you think the SNP covered up his sexual assault, which he eventually admitted to, but were determined to get Salmond.?
DeleteAnon at 4.27pm. It's hard to take your comment seriously when you don't even seem to have the facility to accurately direct and explain your comment. Anon says:- " Agree" - agree with what point or what post.
DeleteIt's hardly news that many people didn't like Salmond long before the allegations. It's hardly news that many people didn't like Sturgeon either.
Your post is of a poor standard.
Nope, they'd rather argue amongst themselves. Westminster's wee enablers. Salmond is died, RIP. For Scotland's sake move on
DeleteIfs- my response was to another post at 418 but no surprise Mr ANgry jumps in without taking stock.
DeleteAnon at 6.12pm. I also agree with 4.18pm. What does " jumps in without taking stock " even mean.. Am I supposed to somehow read your mind that you are referrring to the post at 4.18pm.
DeleteAnother poor post at 6.12pm. Try and raise your game and get the basics right of posting.
Salmond admitted asking a younger woman employee to his bed room, giving her alcohol and then cuddling her
Delete(The woman recalls him kissing and touching her) he admits being drunk
His defence also admitted a sexual relationship with Ms H
So as he says himself he was no angel. That’s what the public do not approve of - his admitted behaviour.
In reality if he hadn’t made it all about a conspiracy then he might have been forgiven by the public. But he totally failed to take responsibility for his own poor behaviour and instead is blaming others.
Anon6:36 'Sleepy cuddle' woman can be seen all over the Internet hanging on to Salmond's arm and smiling at him months AFTER the event. And H denied having had a relationship with him and said she found him physically repellant.
DeleteAnon 7.54 that’s untrue there is no pictures of Salmond and sleepy cuddle together
DeleteSalmond claims in court he had a sexual relationship with H and H denies it
Did Salmond commit perjury ?
Anon at 6.36pm are you a Catholic priest and a virgin. It's 2024 - sex between consenting adults is ok. Even adults of the same sex is ok. Even two trans people getting it on. Are you some sort of religious extremist?
Delete"John Swinney can't provide such a decisive break because everyone knows he's more associated with Sturgeon, but nevertheless there have been some encouraging signs "
ReplyDeleteYes, he allowed two words in a redacted post just the other day. What a pity if he has to retire before getting to the end of a sentence.
The judicial review was different - the system was clearly wrong, and I put in my tenner, one of the first 100 to contribute. Quite rightly Salmond won that; the ScotGov should have put their hands up straight away rather than wasting our money. The system of justice is integral to Independence - I want it to be fully Scots law.
ReplyDeleteI don’t hold an opinion about Salmond's misfeasance claim, apart from yes, it’s good it gets to court, and see if the Justiciary can sort it out. It’s politicians and civil servants, but apart from that they are as far as I’m concerned, just another one or few of the Scottish People and have equal rights and equal responsibilities. For that the current court system should be adequate.
It's a fine line - what I say is you get good people and bad people in positions of authority - that's politics as much as anything.
That post by yesindyref2 clearly highlights the rank stupidity of the troll who posts that yesindyref2 and I are one and the same.
DeleteYesindyref2 likes to take a neutral view on the criminal plot to get Salmond - maybe aye maybe naw. I don't - there was one. I am surprised after all these years so many still claim not to know who any of the alphabetties are. That still you yesindyref2?
As a point of detail yesindyref2 - is it not a malfeasance claim? You say misfeasance.
Well that proves it. Ta.
DeleteStupid anons will be stupid.
DeleteI put "malfeasance" in another blog, but looking it up found the news talking about misfeasance. I just checked it out and found a good article by LPW:
Deletehttps://andrewtickell.co.uk/2023/11/26/misfeasance-in-public-office/
Yesindyref2 - thanks for that - I do know the diffference in meaning and I do know the media use both words but what I'm looking for is the actual legal wording in the case. Malfeasance sounds to me more appropriate misfeasance sounds a bit weak.
DeleteI note you avoid my question re the alphabetties. It's your right to do so but I'll continue to assume you do not know the identities of any of them. This would explain your position. I have never known anyone who does know who they are who have said Sturgeon was not involved. That includes Kavanagh.
Good to hear you are allowed to post on another blog but I'm guessing it ain't the dogging site.
You're M M Ratisbon aren't you. And you post weird stuff.
DeleteHave these primary school kids got their Xmas present early - their first smart phone. There is a rash of absolute nonsense posting on SGP.
DeleteI don't take any view on the Salmond thing, it's Independence is what I'm into. I did post on Murray's blog that he should take an article down as requested or change it, ignore those egging him on who didn't face contempt of court charges, and put his family first. A couple of people agreed with me, but there you go.
DeleteScotland needs Wings (like a hole in the heid)
ReplyDeleteI'm having dinner in rather a nice hotel and have interrupted my shrimp, pomegranate seed and avocado parfait starter to make this comment.
DeleteRighty, OT.
ReplyDeleteI had a couple of emails about a survey for the (UK) DSIT - to an email address which I've never signed up for surveys for (I never do), and which the UK Gov could only have got from a bought spam harvested list. That's the competence or integrity of the UK Government for you.
That's actually UBE by the way - Unsolicited Bulk Email, which is quite possibly against the GDPR. Which is Law under - the UK Gov.
DeleteHave you checked your bulkheads lately?
DeleteNot yet Auntie.
DeleteCampbell must stay (in Bath)
ReplyDeleteAt least he’ll smell nice.
DeleteIs he Spanish? Or just weird?
DeleteThis is an IMPORTANT INTERVENTION.
ReplyDeleteI personally will continue to vote for the party I support on the list, which is what its for, and for my favoured candidate on the constituency, maybe going tactical here depending.
And seats don’t win us indepdence. If you somehow managed to persuade a million voters to do what you suggest and Yes parties get 70% of seats on 49% of the vote, all that would do is set the cause back probably. No mandate for independence and potential soft unionists totally disenfranchised / scared of a growing lack of democracy in Scotland. A ‘one Yes party state’ etc.
“ Scared of a growing lack of democracy in Scotland” Skier you were an idiot back in 2021 and I see time has not changed anything. There is no democracy in Scotland but there you are arguing the unionist case again that we must play fair and not be anti democratic.
DeleteHearty cheerios, my beloved friends.
ReplyDeletewhateversits
DeleteI am a malcontent and I jump in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries so there ! oh so great Zulfikar
DeleteYou are my wonderful smoggy.
DeleteAs a veteran observer of these matters I feel that I should now endorse Celine Gottwald as the candidate who has fearlessly expounded her vision and yet remains free of the merest whiff of sleaze, corruption and vulgar self-interest.
ReplyDelete"Oh glory, glory," as Countess Vegdomika said in relation to something else.
Delete"Fact : women lie, all the time, for all sorts of reasons, they have no sense of justice, shame or responsibility."
ReplyDeleteTHE most MISOGYNISTIC, DUMB quote of the year, on here???
Must be, surely???
Oh well David I thought I would wait and see if anyone would agree with you but hey you will just have to make do with me.
DeleteThat disnae mean the alphabetties didnae lie. They did willingly and maliciously.
Just to clarify -
ReplyDeleteI want indy with an SNP government in place for now. People who want indy and Alba polices can vote that way. Support Green + Indy? Vote that way! Everyone happy. Green and Alba need to earn my vote if they want it. Offer me policies I like. Neither do this sufficiently.
Okey-dokey, carry on.
Mentaaaaaaal
DeleteTo get back to the main content of your post, James -
ReplyDeleteI used to be a contributor to Wings' treasure-chest on the lead up to Indyref and kept that going afterwards, although I had some disagreements with Campbell on-line....one of which was when he was trying to get you ostracised.
He was an invaluable resource at that time and a fantastic debunker of a lot of Unionist MSM false/lying guff.
I also got the Wee Blue Book and used it successfully to 'convert' members of my own extended family and some friends, from No to Yes.
After the Salmond affair, however, Campbell totally flipped from being first and foremost a Pro-Indy supporter, to a conspiracy-theory zealot on Salmond's behalf. Everything became secondary to that mission and, as you correctly highlighted in your opening post, that mission is all he now stands for........apart from self-combusting on various Trans issues.
I also seem to remember him at one point telling Scots to "Leave Scotland" as it was such a terrible place to exist.
The guy is off his wee rocker and would cheerfully burn-down not only his hated SNP, but probably Holyrood and Scotland itself, to serve his twisted moronic agenda.
He now lives and breathes primarily to 'kill' the SNP - and it is no coincidence that he and the Alba Party seem joined at the proverbial.
The Indy Movement 'needs' that balloon and his mates in the same way the Pro-EU Movement 'needed' Farage the Frog and UKIP..
"and it is no coincidence that he and the Alba Party seem joined at the proverbial"
DeleteWell, in one sense that's true, but the fact remains that in July he told people to vote Labour and reject Alba. The Alba leadership sycophantically fawn over him, but get very little in return. It's an odd little arrangement.
Not only the Alba Leadership, James.
DeleteSeems he is still remarkably popular with Alba Members/Supporters, too. Certainly with the ones I have met.
The only party in Scotland that asks other parties to vote for them is the British Tory Labour Lib Dem pact party
ReplyDeleteWhy should the SNP ask their own supporters to vote for other parties when the others don’t vote SNP?
A court case will hopefully determine the facts of the A S prosecution. If there was indeed a conspiracy those involved have to be jailed for 10 years plus. If I was one of the women involved I’d be approaching the crown office to plea bargain. Let’s hope one or more of them has the sense to do so.
ReplyDeleteYou don't 'plea bargain' when, not only have you not been reported/charged with anything whatsoever, but there is presently absolutely no 'case' to answer.
DeleteYou do, in anticipation of what’s coming, and to facilitate an earlier trial for the others, if you have the evidence that allows it. they each individually have that evidence. Standard procedure and wise in the circumstances.
DeleteEh, no.
Delete"They" - meaning I presume the women involved - are no longer even involved in the Criminal Justice System, let alone being 'suspected' of anything, at present.
There is presently no need whatever for them to take any action at all.
The rest of your post is nothing but conjecture and opinion - none of which need concern those women at all.
There is so much unbridled misogyny against the complainants it’s quite disgusting.
DeleteThe women told of their experience
In no way was Salmond a criminal but that does not mean the women lied
Even H might have just got the date wrong and it was admitted that she had a sexual relationship with Salmond
Sturgeon et al used these complaints against Salmond for political reasons but the complaints weren’t lies. It’s the COPFS that turned them into criminal charges not the women
Nonsense David. They know what is probably coming. People can and do approach the police with evidence and offer to give evidence in exchange for facing lesser charges themselves, long before a prosecution. It’s a risky but potentially valuable process. You watch too much Telly I suspect. Of course I am expressing an opinion. It’s the point of btl. Stick to things you know about.
DeleteAnon 7.24 pm
DeleteThere is zero chance of the women being charged with anything
They due nothing wrong
This drolling fantasy that somehow the women will be punished for daring to speak about how they were treated by a powerful man is just that - a fantasy
David, you seem to forget there are two polis cases ongoing re perjury pertaining to these matters. So where you say there are no cases you are wrong.
DeleteAnon@7:33, The only fantasy involved was the fantastic stories made up by the Alphabetties, one of whom wasn't even in the building when she claimed to have been assaulted.
DeleteIfs
DeleteThere is only one police investigation. Outstanding from a complaint made by Salmond about a male civil servant
None of the women complainants are under investigation
Anon 7.42 pm
DeleteThe alphabetie that wasn’t in the building on the date mentioned but nonetheless has a sexual relationship with Salmond as stated by Salmonds defence in court
the whole thing is like kafka meets tales of baron munchausen
Delete- best laff was the contortionist molestation in the back of the limo, over the arm rest (a real up and under), silently, ninja style, so the woman's husband, in the front seat, and the driver would not notice
Also, doing a bad rape on the invisible woman who was not there, telemagically with the power of his mind. Paul Daniels stuff.
"it was real, in my mind" say the alphabetties.
Some people call that perjury.
For goodness sake there is an absolute barrage of wrong facts on this thread eg one of the alphabetties is under investigation for perjury along with the civil servant. It remains to be seen where any of these cases go but try and get the facts right.
DeleteIFS.
DeleteWrong.
What there are, are two investigations into allegations of perjury against one male senior civil servant and the separate leaking of information to the press.
These are being led by senior independent counsel with COPFS assistance, as far as I understand.
Neither inquiry has yet concluded as to whether there may be a criminal case to answer, or whether there will be no criminal cases to answer at all.
The police are not involved and neither are any of the original women complainants as far as I am aware.
Anon at 6.07pm says:- " A court case will hopefully determine the facts of the A S prosecution. "
DeleteAnon I am assuming you support independence. You will accept that the media do not always report the truth. The court cases that have already happened determined a lot of the truth but the British media did not report it. Hence you get the misinformed and uninformed comments in the stream above.
Comments at 8:04 are mine. Finger slipped again when choosing how to post.
DeleteApologies.
And having researched a bit further, if seems that the investigation I to the alleged leak to the Press terminated this past summer, with no criminal case and no further action recommended.
David, I clocked it was you but gave you time to fess up before calling you out. As you say the leaking of information Inquiry finished some time ago. Now do some more investigation about the alphabetty being investigated for perjury. Clearly the person cannot be named because that would be an offence. Try and make sure of your facts before jumping in and saying I am wrong. Pretty sick of all this wrong info posted on this thread.
DeleteLol.
DeleteA slipped finger is not 'fessing up', IFS.
Get a life.
As far as I can ascertain, the only remaining investigation - NOT yet a case - is into a senior male civil servant's evidence at the trial and HR Inquiry.
I can find no trace of any other inquiry, let alone a 'case', and certainly nothing involving any of the original female complainants.
Happy to be proved wrong if you can post a link to what you allege.
IFS
DeleteThe alpha Betty being investigated for perjury is a wishful thinking fantasy
There is no perjury investigation into any of the complainants
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/police-probe-senior-civil-servant-over-salmond-inquiry/
DeleteThis article actually names the senior male civil servant in the ongoing inquiry into allegations of perjury.
As far as I can ascertain, there are no other inquiries in that regard.
David says " get a life " is that form of apology where you come from. A common phrase used by my troll. Which SNP branch are you a member of David?
DeleteWell, well, IFS.
DeleteStill awaiting your link to one of those woman complainers being investigated for perjury, as you alleged.
Where is it, pal???
Anon at 7:24
DeleteYou are simply wrong in what you think.
After 30 years in the Criminal Justice System, I have a rough idea of how it works.
Merry Christmas.
David, a bit shy about your branch then. No apology for getting it wrong about your information leaking case being a live investigation then. The use of the word "pal" another favourite of my troll. So when you said you were viewing SGP before revealing yourself as David Francis who kicks ass in his local branch you were really on here trolling me. Did you actually kick ass in your local branch David - what is that branch? Is it the Spectator branch?
DeleteDavid has spent " 30 years in the Criminal Justice System" did you do that time for murdering the truth like a serial killer?
DeleteDeflectors full on, IFS?
DeleteYou are obviously not big enough to admit you were WRONG on what you said about one of the original women complainers being investigated for perjury.
You cannot post a link to substantiate your allegation, because there is none.
Isn't that the case, pal?
Or, do you want one more chance to produce it?
And your totally demeaning reference to those women as Alphabetties is nothing short of Misogynist crap.
So.....just to be clear - there are NO police cases ongoing into perjury at the moment and NONE of those women are involved in the single inquiry that IS happening.
I don't expect you to apologise.
Your type of trash never do.
David, check out Operation Broadcroft. You said the polis weren't involved at 8.04pm As the person with the 30 year record can you explain why the polis have a named investigation but are not involved.
DeleteMeantime, I don't remember seeing you apologise for being wrong about the information leaking case.
So in your own words you are not big enough to admit you were wrong and you are trash. A neat summary description of my troll.
Now David what is this SNP branch that you kick ass about. Oh and do they realise you are kicking their ass? How often do you do this? Once a month? Why so shy about this? You wouldnae be lying would you. Or is it just your fantasy that you are kicking SNP ass in your local branch.
IFS -- for God's sake, away to yer bed.
DeleteScrape the egg off yer wee face, IFS.
DeleteYou ballsed up big time and the whole site can see it.
You WANTED one of those women to be accused of perjury, so you either invented that as 'fact' of you cloned it from that Cretin in Bath.
Either way, you now looking like a flapping wee Misogyinist Fanny who has been hoist by his own petard.
Personally, I will now file you under 'Shite' and treat your posts accordingly.
You really are a total waste of space.
David Francis, the man who disnae like the term alphabetty. Well I cannae use the term "perjurer" because that is not specific enough as it would have to include Sturgeon, Murrell and all those Britnat civil servants who testified at the Parliament Inquiry. What about the "victims" - well that just isnae true. I know - how about the "plotters" - no that isnae specific enough either as it would include Murrell, MCann, Ruddick and others. What to call them not to upset David Francis? Sorry David, I'll just keep calling them the ....................
DeleteI put these wee........ dots as a tribute to my troll David Francis as he likes them. So many unanswered questions David but here is another one do you know who the betties are? Even one of them?
A final question - have you got that egg off your face yet from the last time mr troll. Remember when I suckered you in. You've been done again.
Do you think Swinney attended as a good will gesture? I think he attended purely because he’s first minister and calculated that not attending might be more damaging than attending. He had a face like fizz throughout which Sky News couldn’t bring itself to look away from
ReplyDeleteWonder if the ridiculous morons screaming "Traitor" at him on his arrival had any affect on his overall demeanour/facial expression thereafter?
DeleteNo. He always looks like that. He's a miserable git.
DeleteA bit like you, then???
DeleteSturgeon's guilt is obvious, simply because throughout her career she has been a control-freak who has to know everything that is going on, and approve of any actions - she does not tolerate creativity or the freethinker or the independently minded (in any sense) ... so ... all this "stuff" is happening to Salmond and she knows nothing, and its not under her control and she doesn't know what is going on and when questioned about it all she becomes this scatterbrain who doesn't seem to keep a diary or records ...
ReplyDelete- except it was her chief flying monkey, her hench, Liz Lloyd who was running around, twisting arms and getting everyone on board. And all the while the chief never asked her minion : "Liz, what are you actually doing right now, I need some memos done ..."
"sorry chief, I am doing stuff by myself on your time that you don't need to know about"
"well that's okay then"
- aye, right
let's all google for "cutout" and "plausible deniability"
"Princes should delegate to others the enactment of unpopular measures and keep in their own hands the distribution of favors."
—Machiavelli
I could send you a pack of Tarot cards for Xmas if you like. Or "Knit your own conspiracy" on DVD. Love you ❤️
DeleteAnon at 7.51pm. I agree with your comments.The Court of Session judge didnae allocate the highest expenses possible to Salmond for a wee admin error as Evans/Lloyd/Sturgeon tried to claim. The judge didnae judge that they were unlawful, unfair and tainted by apparent bias just for a wee admin error. Any decent sensible person would have called a halt at that stage but all three of them and others, like Swinney, decided to take it to another level of evil. Recruiting others to make false allegations and bringing in the polis. Disgusting evil people.
DeleteYawn #94
DeleteI hate sturgeon , I hate sturgeon , I hate sturgeon - how boring you are. Most of the public don’t give of toss. Infuriating, isn’t it.
DeleteAnon at 11.05pm - so why are you bothered then?
DeleteEngland had a War of the Roses, Lancaster v York, hugely drawn out and destructive. The they moved on, Tudor era put all that to bed, or at least to the theatre. Let’s move on from all this Salmond v Sturgeon schism, it’s yesterday’s news and irrelevant to our political future. Just like Alba.
ReplyDeleteChill. It’s you who are wasting your time. If you don’t want Indy, that’s fine, go someplace else. The point of this blog is Indy. We are where we belong, you are out of place.
ReplyDeleteNot true, as I don’t play it
DeleteI've been binge watching my recordings of Beechgrove Garden. Just, wow!
DeleteI see the demented dummy in Bath has now said that Independence cannot happen until 'justice' is achieved for Alex Salmond.
ReplyDeletePresumably that means if the ongoing inquiry does not produce the outcome Campbell wants, then Independence is dead.
Anyone else see any flaws in that warped perspective?
To me, they are as clear as the Northern Lights up here in Aberdeenshire.
He is not worth worrying about.
DeleteMy worry is what happens after next HR election. I am reasonably confident SNP come first, but without a majority of MSPs. But despite what Bath boy says, I don’t see a SNP tie up with SLab as realistic - Keir would just order his local lieutenant to say No. That leaves the ghastly Greens, please oh please No.
I don’t see any Unionist group of feasible coalition partners forming as an alternative, since (1) SLab and Lib Dems & (2) Reform
and Tories would both fall short as options.
I don’t predict a riot, but I can foresee an impasse.
Yes Campbell's is talking shite but at least he disnae go on blogs trolling people as a cowardly anon like you.
DeleteI'll have to correct you there - Campbell has posted anonymously on this blog in the past, and even admitted doing do.
DeleteI reckon the chances of a majority SNP Govt are growing every day now, but agree that the probability is they will still fall sort of that.
DeleteIt very much depends on how many voters we can drag back from Labour and how much Reform further splits the Labour and Tory vote.
But I am far more optimistic about a Pro-Indy Majority in 2026, than I was after the GE.
James, I will accept that correction but it disnae excuse Francis trolling me as an anon. Happy to admit I drew Francis in on purpose with those comments. He seems very reluctant to say the branch he is a member of. He trolled me relentlessly on a personal basis but cannae say the SNP branch he claimed he gives a kicking to.
DeleteJames.......I know you are a busy man, but can you confirm with that Total Tit IFS, that I only post under my own name on here - unlike him.
DeleteTa.
At least confirm to IFS, that I am not 'trolling' him under an 'anon'.
DeleteIFS accuses everyone who does not agree with him of being a troll. Several of my posts have been wrongly attributed to David Francis by IFS. IFS has and does post as an anon. He is abusive, vitriolic and pretty stupid. His tag partner YIR2 together with IFS make a very large percentage of the posts on this site, and that doesn’t even include their anon posts. I can therefore understand why James lets them away with things he would usually delete, but there must surely be a limit. The site’s credibility is under threat.
DeleteD Francis appears to be on here with the intention of stirring trouble.
DeleteAnon at 2.10am - did your finger slip again David?
DeleteIFS at 10.53. Oooft. Head shot by James. And yet you still persist. It’s that toxic mix of ignorance and stupidity. Take a break for the sake of your mental health. Tragic wee man.
DeleteSlippy fingers again David at 12.41pm. Why are you so shy to say what your SNP branch is?
DeleteI assume IFs - if that is his real name will apologise?
ReplyDeleteHis mum should apologise. Cue mock outrage!
Delete
DeleteDo you apologise for trolling?
"misogyny"
ReplyDelete- the best antidote to a lying woman is another woman, for she sees through the other transparently. A majority female jury, having heard more than we got to hear (but by no means all there was), says "I smell shite".
13 times.
If I condemn the women, I also praise the women.
"believe women" - sure, I do.
Interesting.
DeleteOnly 48% of Rape/Attempted Rape Trials in Scotland end in a Guilty verdict.
According to your 'logic' that must mean 52% of those women alleging Rape were 'Liars' because juries ( a good number of which will have been majority female ) "smelled shite" in their evidence???
Goddam my bloody fingers.
DeleteThat was me at 12:15 am
And? That's how justice works.
DeleteShould we accept all allegations? Would that be better?
DeleteWhole point of justice is evidence based.
Are those 52% of women who claimed to have been Raped/or have suffered Attempted Rape, but who did not get a conviction in their cases 'Liars' or not?
DeleteNo. It's not an either or.
DeleteThe world isn't fair. It's the best system we have.
In answer to your question, some may be yes,.some may not be. We cannot know the truth and every situation is different. Obviously.
Ifs - you are fixated about Salmond’s trial. Your macaskill and I claim the prize
ReplyDeleteIs that right anon at 12.07am. It clearly has slipped your mind that it was raised in James article and others raised the subject before me but hey just feel free to troll away. You anon are coco the clown but there is no prize for working that out.
DeleteSo what? You are fixated. Your posting record clearly shows it. You are a silly boy.
DeleteAnon at 1.03pm. Typical of a troll to just ignore the facts. You are fixated on trolling me. Your posting record clearly shows it. You are a clown.
DeleteIn other news Eddie Stobart dies aged 95. Not just known for lorries and seeing Stobart off the M6, but for WRC and M-Sport (which continues on its own).
ReplyDeleteI see WRC has abandoned hybrid because of safety costs; I think that's a mistake, it gave them visible Green creds - more perhaps than sustainable fuel in some ways as it could be claimed to help safety with electrics. It seems BTCC is going the same way. All that R&D money gone for a spin. What is the world coming to!
I'm not fussed about hybrid in rallying as it adds nothing to the spectacle. It's been pretty unreliable too and unit costs haven't helped entrant numbers.
DeleteEnergy recovery systems work very well in endurance racing. Huge manufacturer support in the WEC currently as works teams get to show off the hybrid technology of their road cars.
Well, there's a bit of a rumour of the WRC returning to Scotland around Aberdeen in 2026. I'd guess to get the support of the ScotGov it'd have to have some green credentials.
DeleteScotGov are looking at sustainable fuel for aviation, so perhaps the WRC could fit in for PR purposes. I've a vague memory of Highland Fuels having maybe 7% or more biofuel in their mix last time I took any interest a few years ago!
If only wings would get back on the indy wagon rather than the anti woke one.
ReplyDeleteIFS - I am the anon that posted “ He is not worth worrying about…”. I’m not David Francis and my post wasn’t directed at you; I wasn’t trolling you not was I trolling anyone.
ReplyDeleteYou aren’t top of mind, sorry :-)
I am David Francis
Delete* nor was i
ReplyDeleteNor was I. Bear in mind IFS is an idiot.
DeleteDavid - sorry you got the brunt of IFS for no reason.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I agree with you that chances of SNP majority are going up, however only from a low % base. It’s still unlikely, but (hope springs eternal) currently getting a bit less unlikely from day to day. Let’s see.
Don't worry about IFS, I certainly don't.
DeleteHe seems to see ghosts chasing him, round every corner.
Weird.
As far as SNP is concerned, I think Swinney is doing what is needed at present, to get folk back on board who moved away at the GE.
For all their faults - and there are MANY of those - I think Scots can see that it IS the SNP which genuinely tries to 'put Scotland first' as opposed to the unionist puppets treating Scotland as an afterthought to what their masters in London dictate.
A load of bull from D Francis.
DeleteThe SNP have done so much damage to Scotland in recent years, and continue to do so.
Roll on 2026! There is urgent need to remove these nationalist charlatans from power. Been a long time coming. Tactical voting, in numbers never seen before, at the Holyrood election will surely see this happens.
Anonymous @ 0950 has been breakfasting on devilled tripe again before entering the All-England Village Idiot Tournament in Wooton Bassett.
DeleteAnon at 0950
DeleteTo replaced by WHO, exactly?
C'mon.....could do with a chortle or two..............
I hope I'm wrong but the chances of snp majority are surely pretty slim?
DeleteLet's hope for pro indy majority and even then Labours woes would need to exacerbate.
Abhainn
Anon at 8.41am says "for no reason". Have you been sleeping for weeks. The guy has been trolling me relentlessly. He is a nasty piece of work who gives SNP members a bad name - assuming he is a member as he seems unable to say what his branch is.
Deleteanon 950- I think you may be disappointed. You seem to be an angry tory/unionist. I include labour in the same category as they have the same policies. Anti everybody. Still Sarwar Baillie and co have signed up to right wing policies. How do we know. Well no-one has resigned in embarrassment nor in anger with their party.
ReplyDeleteAnon at 1217.
DeleteWhich UK Party has done better in any of the other Nations???
Politics is for the narcissists.
DeleteAll they want is to win an election nowadays for its own glows sake.
They don't want to change the country. Winning an election is enough.
I'm out.
Plague on all their houses.
Where are you going?
Delete10.53 anon.
ReplyDeleteDeluded nats. Are you meaning Britnats?
LOL.
DeleteThe best people to govern Scotland are the people of Scotland.
ReplyDeletebeing scottish is, psychologically, watching your wife being fucked by another man, while wanking yourself in the corner, telling yourself you are "part of the gang" and in a "healthy, fruitful" relationship
Delete- and everyone thinks you are a joke, a fucking idiot.
and the proud unionist loves to grease his hole and grab his ankles
Scotland is "colonised by wankers" who strangle their vowels, have bad teeth and enjoy molesting kids.
Delete- where would we be without them?
The anon posts @ 12:50 & 12:51are typical Scottish nationalists.
DeleteOne of the reasons decent Scottish people are put off independence. Little wonder you lot remain in a minority!
A merry Xmas to all my trolls. Remember and treat yourself to a nice Xmas pressie. I recommend a nice tattoo on the back of your hand saying:- 19/10/23. That should remind you for a long time that you are the idiots.
ReplyDeleteYou got a head shot from James over your lie about Campbell not posting as an anon. Retain a shred of dignity and get back under your rock. YTI2 needs a wee hug.
DeleteMerry Xmas to you too IFS.
DeleteA New Year’s resolution I think you should seriously consider,
Give up on this independence nonsense and devote your time to something worthwhile and more sensible 😁
Slippy fingers are a big problem for you David at 1.00pm
Delete" head shot" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the clown thinks he is a mafia hardman.
Have to wonder just how old and doted IFS is if he doesn’t get the head shot reference.
DeleteI don't get it either. What's the reference?
DeleteIt is correct that only President Jamez may aurhorise a head shot or a disappearance from the blog.
DeleteSalute President Jamez!
Anon at 2.13pm - I don't know what world you live in but keep it well away from me. Unlike anon at 3.47pm I have no need to understand what goes on in the mind of people like you. Were you marauding along Argyle street on Sunday looking to apply some head shots? No - don't answer that question either.
DeleteDavid Francis makes the point about the possibility of an outright SNP majority.
ReplyDeleteSurely that’s what we should be aiming for, regardless of efficiency of the list vote.
James's argument doesn’t account for the fact that a SNP majority is heads and shoulders better than a coalition Witt the Greens.
The Greens are unpredictable, destabilising, hold anti-growth economic policies (even as Scotland struggles with poverty and commercial decline) and are - understandably - a huge turn off for the persuadable voters we will need to win over for Indy.
Better off without them and with a much smaller pro-Indy majority than having them in coalition and messing up Scottish governance.
Oh, and the Alba party is utterly pointless. No more words needed.
Alba, without Salmond, seems dead in the water. I am sorry about that as there has to be an actual-genuine-nationalist party that would go for it given a chance. Who will fill the gap?
ReplyDeleteSNP without Salmond was like Fleetwood Mac when Peter Green left; the mac then found great success being commanded by a crazy sexually unstable woman and her partner ... stevie nicks probably lacks the narcissism of sturgeon to be honest. Peter Murrell, does not play the guitar as far as we know, but he is a genius on the fiddle.
Lol, very good.
DeleteThe SNP a long, long way from perfect.
Music aside, the only positive result from the next HR election that I can imagine is a SNP majority. Which remains a longshot
Anon12.57
DeleteTypically you mak yer point using an Anglo-American analogy. We hae our ain culture , ye ken. Britnattery is all pervasive.
Democracy is crap but everything else is worse . And the SNP will move us forward WHEN and IF it's membership increases with genuine supporters of independence.
Alba gu brath !
I’m not that anon but they did nothing wrong.
DeletePosts like this exclude people and are self-defeating.
Scotland is a colony with no democracy but all these SNP trolls care about is voting useless SNP politicians back in to power to serve them up some more independence flavoured carrots to munch upon. And these idiots say I am an idiot. Each and every one of them have proven, over the last 10 years, without any doubt, that they are the idiots.
ReplyDeleteThe same people who gave us Humza Yousaf. A devolutionist to his core. A parasite on the yes movement walking away with his FM pension. The same people who told us he was a great choice.
The same people who told us that Sturgeon would deliver a referendum on 19/10/23.
The same people who told us the motorhome was purchased for campaigning purposes but it was just a coincidence that nobody knew about it.
It seems idiots never learn.
A brief and infrequent moment at the end there of self-awareness by IFS.
DeleteAbsolutely. His final line should be on his tombstone.
DeleteI think you two anons recognised yourself and are in the huff.
DeletePretty poor to low retorts don’t help you look like anything but idiots.
Could you translate the second sentence into English? Thanks.
DeleteSo, my good people. If you HAD to choose, Wee Ginger Dug or Wings?
ReplyDeleteWee Ginger Dug. No question at all. He has his faults, but he's a genuine, not a faux, independence supporter.
DeleteLike choosing between a spoilt-brat 5 yr old having a temper tantrum and using a sledgehammer and blowtorch to destroy your home.......and a rational, informed adult trying to keep it intact.
DeleteCampbell is the moronic former, Kavanagh the latter.
Easy choice.
Wee Dug, every single time.
Opposite ends of the Yes spectrum, of course, but if I had to pick one it'd be Wings. I'm big enough to know what's well researched fact and what's self aggrandising BS and Campbell's style is infinitely more readable. Kavanagh makes some good points but his articles are invariably laboured and pretty dull imo.
DeleteCampbell is by far a more readable prose, and his readership figures and influence speaks for itself.
DeleteThat's not to get into the substance of it but it's silly to pretend he's not a gifted writer.
So was Jeggit (in fact Jeggit was the best prose stylist in the Yes blogosphere), but he was still a nutjob.
DeleteBase line is simple.
DeleteCambell's entire raison d'etre is now the destruction of SNP as we know it, with a sub-plot of gender issues.
He has advodated voting Unionist, not voting at all, spoiling ballots and even for Scots to leave Scotland itself.
His 'gift' now seems to be nothing but a nihilistic zeal to burn down almost everything in his path as some sort of 'necessary cleansing'.
He has absolutely NOTHING to offer the Yes Movement any more, apart from incoherent and consistently dismal despair.
His 'time' and usefulness have long gone.
Maybe also only a matter of time, given his past pronouncements, before he and his clique of followers all vote for Reform, as their last 'protest'.
Wings is more interesting and better written.
DeleteCopy and paste with the odd text input is not well written. It’s poor, by any reasonable standards
DeleteCampbell’s readership figures are a fiction. You really don’t know that? Waoh just waoh. You win the naivety prize. Well done.
DeleteDifferent things entirely. Wings is investigative journalism. WGD writes opinion pieces.
DeleteI agree, WGD
ReplyDeleteWings blogger is against independence so need to ask.
ReplyDeleteHe eats mung beans and pretends not to be a vegan. Is he the Beau of Bath?
Delete59% of people will support Independence if the monarchy is replaced by President Jamez.
ReplyDeleteThis is a new fact from El Nacional.
This is vindication for the New Scotland Party.
Delete(Obviously 'President Jamez' would be an unsuitable replacement for the monarchy.)
From the National:
ReplyDelete"Labour's Jackie Baillie pans UK Government for 'wrong' Waspi decision"
Labour in Scotland need the iron fist approach and Scottish Labour need the velvet glove. They really have nothing in common with free suit sleaze slave Stamer and Freeze Reeves and the sooner they cut the umbilical cord with that nasty uncaring inhuman selfish pensioner killing lot the better for them and Scotland.
Scottish Labour (which doesn't exist) is Labour in Scotland is London Labour.
DeleteCorrect: it’s Labour in Scotland
DeleteNew Norstat Poll puts YES at a huge 59% - if an Independent Scotland became a Republic and kicked out the Royals for good.
ReplyDeleteSeems a Win/Win to me.
https://www.believeinscotland.org/new_poll_would_offering_an_independent_scottish_republic_increase_independence_support?utm_campaign=would_offering_an_independent&utm_medium=email&utm_source=believeinscotland
DeleteRepublicanism for Scotland seems to INCREASE the YES Vote across ALL demographics, ALL classes and ALL YES/NO Voters.
Remarkable findings and, if replicated by more similar polls, really needs to be factored-in to the YES Movement Strategy.
James says:- " Lets not squander that progress by trying to perpetuate an internal Cold War within the yes camp......."
ReplyDeleteWell James you got your answer to that from the nasty SNP trolls btl. Instead of putting their own SNP house in order they just keep on lashing out at other independence supporters who don't trust the SNP leadership.
They are unable to answer why we should trust the same leadership who continually lied about independence for the last 10 years. Not to mention the smell of criminality hanging over them.
I vote for Scottish independence, that's what the SNP used to be for.
What is the SNP current plan for independence .................... nothing.
When or will the SNP ever do anything about independence ...............nothing.
So the limit of the once great SNP today is now hoping that they will stop introducing shit policies from Holyrood and stop suggesting male rapists should be put in women's prisons.
Independence sits on a shelf in SNP HQ marked do not disturb and people like KC are happy.
IFS you are the Grinch?
DeleteI'm guessing you are dopey from the seven dwarfs anon at 6.26pm unless you are David Francis again with slippery fingers.
DeleteHe’s not the grinch. He is just stupid.
DeleteIFS ends his post “……….and people like KC are happy “.
DeleteCorrection:
It should read “………and the majority of the Scottish people are happy “.
or is grinchess or it, they, them, maybee ayes or naw. Just a britnat then.
ReplyDeleteYou anon at 6.29pm are such a moron you cannae even put your trolling in the correct place.
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