Chris McEleny told me last week that the clerk of the Appeals Committee would be in touch "in due course" about the details of my appeal, and I did wonder when he said that whether the clerk of the Appeals Committee would turn out to be exactly the same person as the clerk of the Disciplinary Committee, who is also exactly the same person as Mr McEleny's own deputy as General Secretary. The answer is yes. It's like the Holy Trinity: they're three different roles and yet somehow all the same. When I was growing up, my uncle, who had been in a Catholic brotherhood for a few years, explained the concept of the Holy Trinity to me and then asked whether I understood it. I said that I did. He said: "No you don't. Nobody understands it. If you think you've understood it, that means you haven't." Which, to be fair, could also apply to just about every Kafkaesque twist and turn in the Alba Party's internal procedures.
My appeal hearing will be on the evening of the 8th of January, which I think might be just about within the 30-day rule that I remember reading somewhere (I can't find it in the main text of the party constitution so it's probably in a separate set of rules governing the Appeals Committee itself). I was hoping it was going to be a bit earlier than that, because this has been an incredibly stressful and downright nasty process and I want it over. I'm not going to mince words anymore - it's been an utterly bogus, baseless, malicious, evidence-free "disciplinary" action brought by a vindictive leadership due simply to a personal vendetta against me, which they probably hold for three principal reasons: a) the persistent stand I took in favour of internal democratisation of the party, b) my refusal to meekly put up with low-grade bullying attempts from two very well-connected individuals at in-person meetings of the Constitution Review Group during the spring and subsequently on Twitter, and c) my calling out of blatantly false information provided by the General Secretary during meetings of the Disciplinary Committee at the start of this year (yes, ironically I was an elected member of the Disciplinary Committee until my expulsion).
At least now the end is in sight - either the Appeals Committee will do the right thing and overturn the upholding of Mr McEleny's malicious action against me, and I can resume my party membership and return to pressing for change to try to ensure that this can never happen to anyone else again, or they will not do the right thing, my expulsion will become irrevocable, and I can finally draw a line under my hellish experience within Alba and look to the future, either in a different party, or as an independent or as a supporter of independents.
It's likely that I'll have a great deal more to say in the coming weeks and months about the blatant and cynical abuse of power on the part of the General Secretary, and possibly the party chair, that has led to the malicious action against me and against so many other Alba members. But for now I want to say a few general words about the bankruptcy of Alba's disciplinary process, which I've experienced from both sides.
The essence of the problem, I would suggest, is the hopeless lack of independence of the Disciplinary Committee. This is an example of the Alba set-up actually being inferior to the SNP's, because on my reading of the SNP constitution the Conduct Committee in that party is genuinely independent of the NEC (at least on paper). By contrast, Alba's Disciplinary Committee functions effectively as a subcommittee of the NEC. Although there are six elected members, those are topped up by two NEC appointees (effectively people directly appointed by the party leader), of which one is nominated by the NEC to be the committee's convener. OK, you might say, that still means the committee is three-quarters elected, but in practice the appointed convener controls the committee to a quite extraordinary degree. Not only does he or she have the casting vote in the event of a tie, they also determine the format of meetings, can ensure the rights of 'defendants' are interpreted as narrowly as possible, and can prevent committee members from expressing 'undesirable' viewpoints or asking 'unwanted' questions. So to a large extent, the Disciplinary Committee is under the NEC's direct control.
But even that level of control wasn't enough for the leadership, who at the start of this year (coinciding with my own election to the committee) introduced a set of draconian new rules which shifted power over the disciplinary process away from the Disciplinary Committee and firmly into the hands of the unelected General Secretary and to a lesser extent the unelected party chair. A new "clerk to the committee" was imposed, who of course just happens to be the same person as the Deputy General Secretary, and who is now present throughout all meetings regardless of whether the committee wants her there or not. She therefore becomes a brooding presence which is bound to inhibit the free expression of views - because it's an open secret that she'll be reporting back to her boss the General Secretary, to the party chair and probably to half a dozen other people besides. In the first meeting I took part in, it became obvious that Mr McEleny had told us a direct lie in the paperwork - he had told us that the member who was the subject of the complaint had not expressed any wish to attend the hearing, whereas in fact I knew that wasn't true, because the member in question had contacted me to say that he did wish to attend but that Mr McEleny had ignored his emails. During the meeting I said something along the lines of "it looks to me like the General Secretary has been playing games", which of course I knew full well that "the clerk to the committee" would report straight back to her boss. That may well have been the moment when the seeds were first sown for Mr McEleny's vendetta against me.
But the much more important effect of the new rules is the total power they give to the General Secretary in determining what complaints reach the Disciplinary Committee. Mr McEleny, despite being an entirely unelected party employee, has an absolute right to lodge a complaint against a party member himself and compel the Disciplinary Committee to hear it, but he also has an absolute right to reject any complaint submitted by anyone else and to prevent the committee from even considering it. Let's be blunt - Mr McEleny has not only been making full use of that dictatorial power, he's been abusing it for all it's worth. Every single complaint that was heard during my time on the committee could be very easily traced back to Mr McEleny's own vested interests, or the vested interests of the wider leadership group. In at least two cases, it was ultimately about a wish to hush up the strong and probably well-founded suspicions that the 2023 internal elections were at least partly rigged. By contrast, complaints submitted by ordinary party members with no connection to the party leadership seem to be of no interest whatever to Mr McEleny, and he routinely dismisses them out of hand. Which is highly convenient when those complaints are about prominent figures in the party.
It's also worth noting that the right of the 'defendant' to be present at the hearing is largely a sham. You might remember that my sense was that I had only been allowed to be present at the hearing about me for around seven or eight minutes. I was later able to work out that it had actually been twelve minutes. Assuming the hearing probably lasted for an hour or so, that means I was only actually there for 20% of it. I have a fair idea of what was going on in my absence for the first half-hour of the meeting, and that was something I certainly should have been present for and been allowed to hear - but that would have involved me being made aware of what I was actually being accused of and being allowed to answer it. And that would never have done, would it?
On the plus side, at least they're an electoral powerhouse
ReplyDeleteLOL
DeleteTrolling or no, thats a belter! On a serious note, I don’t quite get why James is appealing his expulsion from this joke of a party.
DeleteWell, because the upholding of Mr McEleny's bogus complaint was a perverse decision and it ought to be overturned. But if it isn't overturned, I want it to be abundantly clear to everyone that the Alba Party ditched me, rather than the other way round. So many people have been effectively forced out of Alba but have still been accused of walking away.
DeleteOne very important detail held back from my point about the debate at the Stirling 2022 Alba Party Conference (which I now regret) was that two emails were sent by me to enquire as to the state of play of the outcomes from the deliberations of the Short term working group on the constitution. The first query was inserted into an email to the General Secretary asking about a couple of other matters as well (to avoid having to send too many emails) more than a month prior to the conference. In spite of reminding the General Secretary of this email, no reply was given. As no notification had been given to members two weeks prior to this conference, I sent another email, this time to the Clerk of the Conference Committee, just asking what the outcomes were from the Short term working group and, if any amendments were to be made to the constitution, when would these be published for members and for conference attendees to read? Again, I received no reply. The conference agenda made no mention of the work of the Short term working group on the constitution and the proposed amendments were not published in any form. Indeed, the fact that any amendments were to be made to the constitution was only revealed in the 'oral' report given by the Clerk to the to Short term working group in her then capacity as Membership Convener. She didn't even mention the nature of these amendments, although a number of speakers supporting the acceptance of her 'report' who were at that point close to or part of the leadership, assured us that these were 'minor' or 'unimportant' amendments. Had it not been for the perseverance of one member, who insisted that the vote, referring as it did to the constitution, would need to be on the basis of a two thirds majority, this 'oral' report would have been passed on a simple majority. Independence supporters have learnt absolutely nothing from the centralisation of power (initiated during Alex Salmond's leadership) of the SNP.
ReplyDeleteI would like to make little wax dolls of people with Megan Marble and send them as gifts
DeleteN.B. to follow up on James' point about multiple roles being held by a very small number of people, I should add that the then Membership Convener was not only the Clerk to the Short Term Working Group on the Constitution, but also the Clerk to the Conference Committee and had applied for the job of Senior Policy Officer, which she took up just a month later.
ReplyDeleteWere the posts opened up to applications?
DeleteYes - but it wasn't at all clear whether these posts were advertised outside of the party.
Delete"Yes - but it wasn't at all clear whether these posts were advertised outside of the party."
DeleteRingfenced?
Who is the General Secretary?
ReplyDeleteAnd who is Party chair?
DeleteMcEleny. General receptionist
DeleteEvening all. The party chair is Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh, wife of the great Zulfikar Sheikh.
DeleteEvening, my wondrously wonderful you.
DeleteIt's like an episode o f dallas and I should know
DeleteChris McEleny
ReplyDeleteThe Unholy Trinity of the Alba Party are:-
ReplyDeleteChris McEleny - General Secretary, line manager to HQ staff
Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh - elected member of NEC, appointed chairperson of party, NEC, Conference Committee, constitutionally the sole person in charge of the 'day to day' management of HQ staff.
Corri Wilson - former Membership Convener, current Senior Policy Officer, (unconstitutional and appointed position of) Depute General Secretary, Clerk to Conference Committee, Disciplinary Committee and probably Appeals Committee, former Clerk to Short Term Working Group on the constitution, Clerk to current New Review Group on the Constitution.
Ah right. I suspect the 3rd one explains a lot.
DeleteShe's Shannon Donoghue's mum and Chris Cullen's future mother-in-law. As a former MP, I'm surprised she's willing to play second-fiddle to McEleny, who has never been anything more than an opposition group leader on a local council.
Deletehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corri_Wilson
DeleteYou bet it does
I'm surprised Alba have office staff. How can they afford them? Is there something I haven't been told?
DeleteThey’re a bunch of fannies, especially McEleny.
DeleteI’ll probably still be voting for them. Alba are best chance to exploit the list vote for an alternative Yes party.
Some of them I like… McAskill, Hanvey, Regan, MacNeil…
Still a better bunch overall than the SNP cabal or Green nutcases.
Maybe they need a name change -F****Party, might just work
DeleteThis really isn't the type of comment we'd like to see posted here thankyou.
DeleteHow convenient it was that Tasmina Ahmed Sheik came 1st in the Ordinary Member Vote. All the more reason for the NEC to then elect her as Chair. Or did she come 1st? To date nobody has seen those results and I strongly suspect she was not.
DeleteThe Gerrymandering of last years election was to ensure Tasmina came first in the ordinary member vote
DeleteShe was very unpopular with the Activists and the leadership including Salmond was worried that even if she was elected as ordinary member the NEC would not approve her as Chair.
Quite why she was so important that they cheated so she would win is not fully understood
Chris as general secretary was also unlikely to get approved
If the elections had proceeded without interference it’s likely the NEC would not have approved either appointment
That is the real reason for the cheating everything else is smoke and mirrors
How many of these posts are salaried?
ReplyDeleteYou mean on this blog or in Alba?
DeleteBoth still less than SNP corruption
Do you not know? How many of these posts are salaried?
DeleteBoth Corri and Chris’s posts are well paid
DeleteTasmina makes money from merchandising and she got her lifestyle subsidised by Alba when Salmond was alive as she travelled everywhere with him on Alba’s dime
I shall never vote for Salmond's Gang
ReplyDeleteHe’s gone, they’re not his “gang”, & less of personalisation please - many of us had a lot of respect for him.
Deleteor Sturgeon's gang
ReplyDeleteStill had more people voting for her until the disrupters and complainers intervened to bring her down
DeleteOt - i note the football authorities are trying their best to ignore the violence - deliberately planned by the idiot branchform of the old firm. For too long Glasgow shoppers has had to put up with the thugs running down the streets causing mayhem and fear to the public including families with children. The tories and labour did their best to disrupt plans to tackle some aspects of drunkenness at matches and thwarted the snp government. The football money men keep their heads down and hope we forget. Let’s have legislation that penalises them so they can sit with their respective fans in jail for a few hours. They might just change their views. Sectarianism splits parts of Scotland as it does in Ireland. Who benefits?
ReplyDeleteSpelling wrong? Yip low life response- both in the gutter together but don’t understand how they are being used.
DeleteThe match time should have stayed at 12.00 kick off. This was designed to prevent the thugs getting tanked up on Dutch courage.
DeleteLetting this match kick off at 3.30pm was always a wrong decision. Disgraceful scenes in Glasgow city centre.
Agree and I don’t often if ever agree with IFS. The police spokesperson on radio this morning equating the scenes on Saturday as to what we see at junior games. Sectarianism not mentioned. Police Sco
DeletePolice Scotland remind me of the ruc not wanting to upset the gang leaders.
DeleteIf you can ban marches you can ban a football game. Shame for the good supporter though but this has gone on since post-war. There are no more excuses from the club directors who thrive on the bigotry.
DeleteBest of luck on yer 'Big Day', James.
ReplyDeleteAlthough, given what you have recently posted on here - and which undoubtedly will get back to Alba HQ -
I reckon you will be lucky to escape with all your limbs intact 😂
Seriously, though, I still think you are wasting your time, but like I said previously, it is yours to waste.
On a MUCH brighter and more positive note............it will be incredible to watch the wee coterie of completely irrelevant, inconsequential SNP-Haters on this site either shrivel up and expire, or go aff their collective pointy-heids, IF you rejoin that Party.
Won't buy the popcorn just yet, though..........
Could you kindly refrain from making this kind of comment.
DeleteThose 'irrelevant, inconsequential' posters certainly seem to occupy what passes for your mind, judging by how often you rant about them.🤣
DeleteAnon Tosser @ 11:03
DeleteIf you ever find the other half of your 'wit', get back to me.
Ta much.
If you have any face to face or Zoom meetings or with Big Chris, please record them.
DeleteAnon nobody @ 11:19
DeleteYou talking to me?
David, you do post a lot of nasty comments. In fact you remind me of a troll that posts on SGP as an anon. Have you posted on SGP as an anon?
DeleteUnless you are very myopic, Robert, you will have seen many, many more, far 'nastier' posts on here - vast majority of which against SNP/Sturgeon/Greens/Yousay/Swinney etc...
DeleteMine are relatively polite in comparison.
You really shame the SNP with your behaviour.
DeleteThe posts by David Francis pale into insignificance on the nasty vitriol scaleometer when compared to those of the usual suspects and their anon pals who rush on to back them up with astounding speed and regularity. But don’t pull them up. They cannot cope and go into vitriol overdrive.
DeleteDave at 11:16, 'Tosser', really?Standard Dave Francis abuse from your juvenile mindset. No sign of improvement sadly.
DeleteDavid, says:- " shrivel up and expire" - pretty nasty stuff. Similar to an anon troll who wanted me dead. It reflects poorly on you David if you think that is being "relatively polite". As an SNP member it also reflects poorly on the SNP membership.
DeleteIf you are referring to me David in your post of 9.37pm I am happy to put on record that if James decides to rejoin the SNP then I will not shrivel up and expire or go off my head. If the SNP is not for him that's also fine with me. James is his own man and I would not presume to advise or tell him what to do.
Are Ladbrokes giving odds on your chances, James?
ReplyDelete1/10 - Expulsion upheld
Delete20/1 - A "McEleny Surprise"
1000/1 - Appeal upheld
I dont know why the members put up with it. If by a Christmas miracle you don't get expelled what is the point remaining? They have control of the NEC and the committees. They fudge elections to retain power. They dont follow their own Constitution. Its full of idiots, egos and arseholes. Its less transparent than a back street bookies. Good to see more calling out the bullshit tho, even if it gets you nowhere
ReplyDeleteI think you’ve kinda nailed it there Leanne
DeleteOT Just as a warning, the freezing this christmas parody song seems to be Reform UK in disguise.
ReplyDeleteThe Gerrymandering of last years election was to ensure Tasmina came first in the ordinary member vote
ReplyDeleteShe was very unpopular with the Activists and the leadership including Salmond was worried that even if she was elected as ordinary member the NEC would not approve her as Chair.
Quite why she was so important that they cheated so she would win is not fully understood
Chris as general secretary was also unlikely to get approved
If the elections had proceeded without interference it’s likely the NEC would not have approved either appointment
That is the real reason for the cheating everything else is smoke and mirrors
Taking into account you were allowed to be present for only 20% of the original hearing, I'm guessing the appeal may be entirely behind closed doors?
ReplyDeleteHumza the Brief exiting quietly out the back door. FM pension intact.
ReplyDeleteTo be fair though, he did kill off the Greens so well worth his golden handshake imo.
Yousaf to stand down as an MSP at next election
ReplyDeleteEvery cloud has a silver lining - he won’t be missed
DeleteI don't know whether to wish you good luck with the appeal or not, but you do have to see it through to the bitter end. Then you know you did everything you possibly could.
ReplyDeleteNicola on Scotland Tonight last night promoting her new book in a chummy chat with Colin McKay. The longest serving FM seem to say that her main achievements were gay marriage and the Scottish child Payment. Well gay marriage laws were actually set in motion under Salmond as FM. Sturgeon also said she would not do anything different about her actions re selfID trans rights. McKay could have pointed out to her that all she achieved was a massive split in society and the yes movement but achieved nothing. Even I managed to forecast on SGP that Westminster would strike the law down and it was a waste of time that just caused division and if she really wanted self ID she would be going for independence.
ReplyDeleteThe Craven one called Shona actually said about Sturgeon and independence " nobody could ever tell me exactly how she could have done that " with reference to independence. Truly unbelievable all these people like the Craven one. All these years of headlines in the National telling us that Indyref2 was about to happen. All these years of Sturgeon and others saying indyref is on its way. Now according to Craven it was impossible. Absolute bullshit revisionism. I'll tell you Shona. Sturgeon could have called the Holyrood election as a de facto referendum.
As the discussion featured gay marriage McKay also bottled asking her how her own marriage was doing. How is the invisible man coping? I bet the book cover will not have a picture of her husband.
As a panellist said, Sturgeon should call her book:- Nicola Sturgeon and The Chamber of Secrets. Personally, her legacy is that she lasted so long as FM. Therefore, I suggest her book title should be:- I will Survive.
Sadly for Dr Jim and other nicophants the book title will not be:- I'll Be Back.
What a lovely idea. I suggested the same to Celine Gottwald.
DeleteHey IFS - Want some more Bitters to top up your Bitters, pal? 😂😂😂
DeleteDavid, sorry but I cannae find that as funny as you evidently do because I don't understand it. What are Bitters? Do you keep a supply of them?
DeleteAlso I’m not your pal. An anon troll used to keep calling me pal. Coincidence?
Lol.
DeleteYour sense of humour matches your self-awareness, pal.
Absolute Zero.
Enjoy yer day - it is pretty miserable outside, so right up your wee street 😁😁😁
IFS isn’t the sharpest so go easy on him. He’s angry and frustrated with his life. Give him some Xmas cheer.
DeleteIFS, the de facto referendum idea is interesting. however I fear if it was a viable option, it would have been used by now.
DeleteDavid, it is clear you are nowt but a troll. The troll who has been posting as an anon in the past and still posting as an anon like 12.10pm. Replying to your own posts says it all about you. Nothing to say about Sturgeon's legacy or her appearance on Scotland Tonight just trolling. You are a very unsavourary character. A typical nicophant like Dr Jim.
DeleteIFS,
DeleteYou really do spout some absolute and utter garbage, pal.
I would ask you (again) to grow up - but I no longer think you can.
Keep chasing yer wee ghosts.
Has Sturgeon forgotten that she's still an elected MSP with constituents to represent?
DeleteShe's barely turned up to do her actual job in quite some time effectively leaving the people of Glasgow Southside unrepresented in Parliament.
Being an MSP isn't a part-time job you do in-between writing and promoting a book.
Whatever anyone's opinion is of Sturgeon, good, bad or indifferent, she's very clearly a divisive figure now in the Indy movement, and in Scotland itself, and should stand down next election.
DeleteA S, for whatever reasons, had become a divisive figure. Just remind us when you called for him to stand down?
DeleteAnon @ 2:33 PM
DeleteStand down from what?
“Poster BoyDecember 16, 2024 at 9:58 PM
ReplyDeleteCould you kindly refrain from making this kind of comment.”
Who appointed you monitor of the blog comments?
Surely it’s up to James Kelly to decide which comments are acceptable or otherwise? Wind your neck in!
I always imagine a spoondrifter to be a sort of hobo travelling around America on a goods train with no possession bar a spoon that he uses to eat porridge with that he gets from kindly womenfolk in the small towns he stops at.
DeleteOooh keyboard warrior. Pal of IFS methinks. Same lovely manner.
DeleteNice thought, but a spoondrifter is actually a rarely used term for a person who is ill prepared to carry out a particular job or task.
DeleteIt's believed to originate from medieval central Europe when Bavarian townspeople would clear heavy snowfall from the streets using whatever implements they had, including in some cases wooden spoons used for cooking. Such people or those who were particularly slow at the job in hand were termed 'Loffelet Schneewehen' (snowdrift spooners).
Anonymous at 12:27 PM
DeleteThat is very hurtful and uncalled for
Bit rainy this morning, seems to be clearing up nicely though :-)
ReplyDeleteHey James,
ReplyDeleteWant to run a wee internal-poll, asking if SGP now has THE most consistently miserable, morbid, negative, doom-laden, no-hope bunch posters of any of the Yes Sites?
Just for a bit of fun???
No doubt the outcome here David. When your main poster is a WOS reject, it’s kind of inevitable.
DeleteYeah.
DeleteNo chance of him (?) and a few others, getting a job with The Samaritans, is there?
David is now showing his true character - a nasty nicophant troll who replies to his own posts.
DeleteThis is a politics forum.
DeleteIt often discusses politicians.
Sturgeon is a politician, as is Yousaf, and as was Salmond.
Discussion of them is therefore normal - both pro and con.
You spend all your time hysterically attacking posters.
If you really really want to be nominated for any category, I nominate you for arsehole in your own furtive lonely little mind.
That was addressed to "David Francis" and his string of Anons.
DeleteYesinfyref2
DeleteAwww that wasn't nice, Dummy.
Seems that you, IFS and a few Anons thought you ruled the roost on here.
You don't.
Get used to it.
BTW......James can easily confirm that I post as myself only and have NO 'Anon Aliases'.
Unlike some on here, I would wager.
As for 'nominations' - how about you as 'Chief Christmas Cretin'
Happy Holidays, pal.
QED
DeleteAnd you are both IFS and indyref2!? You are as stupid as your posts to date suggest.
DeleteAnon 2.35 Has anyone seen IfS, YestoIndy2 and Barrheid Boy in the same room ?
DeletePerhaps just one person. Wink wink.
DeleteI posted this elsewhere and realist it's totally on topic for this thread.
ReplyDeleteSalmond had a crowdfunder for the judicial review and I was one of the first 100 donors. I was usually first to read and post on a Herald / National article in those days at 4a.m., having duly prepped as best I could for the breaking news. My donating had nothing to do with his guilt or innocence, it was all to do with process, justice in its most basic form, and that process was so blatantly obviously flawed that I had no choice but to give my tenner. If I’d ever won big on the euromillions my plan for my leisure was to fund the likes of the Govan Law Centre for its pro bono work, which I found out about during Indy ref, and similar cases of seeking justice.
How many times have we all been screwed over because big companies and quangos – and governments and councils – have people employed to spin out the process as long as possible to wear us out, cause us to spend hard-earned money on phones, letters – and our time as well? Most of the time we have to give up and move on. So the corporation has stolen a fiver off us, £1.50 overcharge on the bank fees, overcharged for a loaf of stale bread – and got away with it.
The malfeasance case is a bit different, though it’s damages it’s more about he said she said, and that’s on a personal level not the actual process of the Rule of Law which I always capitalise when I write it.
Now in Scotland the Legal Aid system is a total disgrace. The prosecutors get twice as much wages as defence solicitors, and practices get far more even than that. Find people guilty to up the conviction levels and fuck the innocent citizen. Legal Aid is getting harder and harder to get for people who desperately need it.
Ah well, back to scraping for painting.
You posted it elsewhere? And still haven’t corrected the spelling and grammatical errors. As for the content. The first two sentences of your second last paragraph are dripping in ignorance and stupidity. Wow, just wow. This should be your last post. No one else could bear the embarrassment you should be feeling. But it’s you. That dangerous mix of ignorance and stupidity. You have it in spades.
DeleteAnyone think that Yousaf the Brief will be writing a book of memoirs? How much will he be paid? What will his legacy of achievements be?
ReplyDeleteConsiderably more than yours!
DeleteThat's really interesting Alex Lomax, now, what do you think Yousaf's legacy of achievements will be?
DeleteI'd say ditching the BHA which brought the SNP to its lowest polls and worst election results for years, and set back Indy for a few years as well, at a cost of hundreds of millions to Scotland. 3 or 4 times as much as would have been needed to stop a few hundred pensioners dying in Scotland faced with the choice between heat or eat (or neither).
That’s really interesting Yir2. What will your list of achievement be? See what just happened you silly boy.
DeleteYir2 is blaming pensioners suffering hypothermia this winter on Humza, when the blame lies with Reeves and Starmer, but hey it's SNP Baaad !
DeleteI see that Labour have just announced they will pay NO compensation ( not a penny) to 3.5 Million WASPI Women.
ReplyDeleteThey have completely ignored the findings of the Independent Ombudsman who recommended cash payouts to all those concerned.
After getting numerous photo-ops and cuddling up to those women BEFORE the GE to get their votes, Labour have just kicked them in the teeth, just in time for Christmas.
Sarwar 'promised' to get them the compensation they deserved'.
He will now disappear, once again.
Labour REALLY are a bunch of two-faced, lying SLUGS.
Slugs are quite fascinating creatures, ecologically-speaking, unlike Labour characters.
DeleteI had to work with an individual for many years who later became affected by the female pension age rise.
DeleteShe was obstructive, manipulative, self important, unprofessional and incompetent. She made working life miserable for many of the people she engaged with simply because she brought her glaring personality disorder into the workplace every day.
She will doubtless be fuming at the minster's announcement today.
Every cloud... as they say.
Eh......
DeleteYou think all the 3.5 Million women involved are like your pathetic caricature?
Take a pill - one of the one's meant for horses.
Might not cure you, but you can shit in the street forever.
She's the only person I've ever met who was affected by the issue. I have no other personal investment.
DeleteHint: most people don't care about most issues. Only those that affect them in some way.
Hey YI2, it looks like anon has opened up a second front against the Dave 'machete' Francis axis. His peculiar brand of sanctimonious outrage will be spread more thinly now.
DeleteWith approx 300,000 women and their families affected up here, you don't get out much, do you.
DeleteAnd the FACT that literally Hundreds of Millions of decent folk across this Planet care DEEPLY about the GENOCIDE IN GAZA, although it might not directly affect them, makes your final comment look like the utter garbage it is.
"Up here"?
DeletePardon?
DeleteGood grief :-(
ReplyDeleteDavid Francis, Dave Francis, David Machete and a Heinz 57 of Anons are multiplying.
Head for the hills!
Please say it’s irony? Where’s your alter ego? And your anon defenders? On a more serious note do you not seek to retain a shred of dignity? You are beyond parody, possibly beyond help. I’m guessing alcohol is a big part of your life. Sad.
DeleteAnyways, my apologies to SGP getting suckered in by that. In future I'll just - once - post:
ReplyDelete"Please don't feed the trolls"
You might starve.
DeleteAnon at 4.04. Post of the day. Doubly enjoyable because YIR2 really won’t get it.
DeleteM M Ratisbon is another of IFS's pen names
DeleteAnd IFS used to post as Beauregard Nimmo on another website who's name I cant remember.
DeleteMulti-faceted IFS.
DeleteOr something like that.........
Cubby on WoS
DeleteAnyone else think that yesindyref2 and IFS share the same, single, solitary, lonely wee Neuron?
ReplyDeleteOr.......is that one too many???
The lot of you come across as self important blowhards from where I'm sitting.
DeleteHow about debating issues rather than attacking people.
DeleteHopefully D Francis will get fed up and f*** off.
ReplyDeleteThis site has gone downhill since he turned up.
Have to agree, there's no room for persuasion here any more. It's about meeting out derision.
DeleteWho are they impressing? Themselves? Sad.
I remember when you could have a chat on this site years ago too.
IFS and I had a few wee spats, but the level of disruption was small, and probably amusing for regulars. This lot have just one purpose - to disrupt the forum, by filling it with nonsense.
DeleteIn general people post trolls to get attention, to disrupt newsgroups, and to make trouble. These I'd say are the latter 2.
The good news is that it probably means some Unionists:
1). See Scot Goes Pop as a threat to the Union
2). Have analysed that YES is ahead and Indy on its way
3) Try to discredit anyone they see as a threat to the Union
SGP can take it as a compliment that they are targetting him. His analysis is as sound as a drum.
Interesting.
DeleteI had a look back at very numerous posts on this site, prior to my coming on here.
It was - and still is - RAMMED full of 'derision' and in some cases, totally vicious personal assassinations of various SNP and other politicians.....some of which might be libellous in tone, particularly about the personal life of Nicola Sturgeon.
In addition, the attempts to paint Alex Salmond as some sort of 'Scottish Saviour' were as ludicrous as they were pathetic.
Decent man, good leader but with substantial flaws.
Seems all that has now escaped the fragile wee souls on here who are now moaning about my viewpoints being a bit robust.
James will decide if posts should stand or fall and I am completely content with that.
And I really could not care less about the opinions of my detractors.
They simply do not matter to me.
Not one iota.
Oh, and the reason to disrupt the forum and fill it with garbage is to destroy its usefulness, discourage readers, AND DISCOURAGE DONATIONS TO KEEP THE SITE GOING.
Delete*hint*
By the horses mouth, they don't care what other posters think yet are constantly on this page hoping their wee "zinger" has landed. Right oh.
Deletethe SNP has been a great vehicle, dare I say, camper-van, for Nikki's lesbian polycule and dating opportunities.
ReplyDelete- luv the new chick, asian babe, sticky fingers and saffron stains all round
The gutter just got dirtier
DeleteSNP, tough on indy, tough on the causes of indy, tough on nationalists, the best investment MI5 ever made
ReplyDeleteNikki, getting measured up for the stoat coat - there is nothing like a dame, as all the friends of dorothy like to say
QED.
DeleteTo get back to the thread topic -
ReplyDeleteJames,
Are you allowed to have a 'friend' (prehaps another Alba Member) present at the next hearing, to witness how you are treated?
Or, is that not allowed by Party Rules?
Yes, I am. I was given a deadline for saying whether I want to do that. I told them I'd let them know my decision "in due course".
DeleteTo be clear, it has to be a current Alba member - I can't just bring my solicitor with me or anything like that.
DeleteIrrespective, I would seriously think about getting a 'friend" to be there.
DeleteIt has sometimes - but by no means always - an effect on the other side.
Verbals said to only one person can be denied/later altered much easier, when there is no other witness present.
I know in normal HR type issues as soon as you introduced your witness as your solicitor fair shook up any disciplinary hearing. Had to be stopped so the other side got legal advice.
ReplyDeleteWasn't even meaning a solicitor - just a witness to the proceedings.
DeleteThat alone is sometimes enough to get a sharp intake of breath from the other side of the table.
David Francis, the new SNP Mafia style hardman on SGP. He has marked my card and wants me to expire. What a clown. Francis uses the same language that my anon troll has been using in trolling me in recent times. Just another nasty nicophant. You outed yourself.
ReplyDeleteIs Francis really Jamie Hepburn now that he is at a loose end after being binned as Independence Minister. Just what did Hepburn do as Independence Minister other than slurp up some more taxpayer funded gravy. It now looks like what many people thought it was - just more independence flavoured carrots for the numpties to feast on. I'm sure David found them to be delicious.
Wrong.
ReplyDeleteIn every single aspect.
Apart from that..................