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So basically speaking Burnham has given the full power of Indy Ref 2 to Douglas Alexander. Little does he know Dougie is our Daniel Defoe, our man in Westminster, our S007.
ReplyDeleteBwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
John Swinney deserves credit for his leadership of the SNP. In turbulent times his steady approach has paid dividends. The SNP now sits comfortably ahead of other parties, something that he has overseen, with his careful style and effective political direction. It is fair to say that few politicians have managed to achieve what John has in such a short space of time. The transformation in party fortunes is remarkable.
ReplyDeleteGood afternoon, ChatGPT.
DeleteIs 2.56 the 'sureness of touch' guy that used to hang around here,?
DeleteThe A I man is pretty useless. And therefore a unionist.
DeleteBut how are things in the independence space?
DeleteThe hidden camera footage of Nigel went out on Thursday the 3rd. There have been two polls conducted since then.
ReplyDeleteYouGov field work 6 - 7 Sept; tie between Labour and Reform, no change from previous week.
More in Common field work 4 - 6 Sept; Lab 1% lead (-2), RefUK 23% (+1).
Nigel’s remaining support is bulletproof. He can be caught out in blatant contravention of electoral law and they don’t care. He can lie outrageously, claiming to have not been listening to a conversation he was clearly participating in and they don’t care.
I blame the other parties for this. Reform UK voters must be scunnered with mainstream parties to the extent that they’ll not return for the foreseeable future.
I recently watched the excellent Italian series 1992. Voters were so disgusted with the post WWII established parties with their institutionalised corruption that they flocked to Fascist adjacent Lega Nord and Berlusconi’s Forza Italia. The notion that Berlusconi would reduce the level of corruption was of course preposterous, but folk were so repulsed by the status quo by this point that they deserted the establishment parties anyway.
England and Wales are in that territory now. Farage’s pay-to-play relationship with foreign currency speculators and Crypto billionaires is just so blatant and yet one in four voters are happy to tick the Reform box.
2.57 What is your point here! Fascists vote for fascists? Extremists vote for extremists? The far right vote for the far right? Lab/Tory/Libs vote for the same cheek of the same arse? Corrupt liars eventually gets caught out and they all have been!
DeleteAnother way of reading the polls, is that approx 28% of the English/Welsh electorate and, unfortunately, approx 15% of Scottish Voters are racist-fascists and are willing to completely agree with Farage's manifest extreme right views and quite blatant racism, in exactly the same way as the MAGA morons do with Trump.
DeleteThat is extremely worrying.
It’s extremely worrying that nearly half of Scots think independence is a good idea!
DeleteOk Mr Alexander !
DeleteWhat only a 17 point lead = Taxi for Swinney
ReplyDeleteRolls Royce for Lord Offord.
DeleteI appreciate you putting a positive spin on this James, however I’m sure I’m not alone in being disappointed to see the pro union vote share up near 60% in the subsample once again.
ReplyDeleteYes, absolutely devastating. Because the SNP are only 17 points ahead, clearly the Union’s finest hour. Perhaps Andy Burnham should get the bunting out before someone notices which party is actually winning?
Delete3.06 No! You really are alone!
DeleteIt's only KC.
DeleteIt is an interesting point though. Is reversing that at all possible?
DeleteHi, KC.
DeleteMy understanding is that since 2014 support for independence has increased by 20% so now it should be much easier for the septic's to sign up and join in, and yes I did spell that correctly, the sceptic's will do what they do and moan about it
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DeleteEven Find Out Now polls for the National don’t put support for independence at anything like that level!
I wrongly identified KC from The Sunshine Band.
DeleteHe's obviously the founding member of Throbbing Gristle.
Even Find Out Now polls for the National don’t put support for independence at anything like that level!
DeleteThe last FON had a Yes lead of 52/48 with DKs removed, which is an increase of 15% on 2014. So yes, support is around that level. A Norstat poll earlier this year put Yes at 54.7%, a 21.5% increase on 2014, though that looks a bit of an outlier.
Good news is that now that Burnham seemingly has agreed the same route to an independent Scotland as to a United Ireland, it really does simplify and more closely define what the SNP and Yes Movement must do to satisfy the related requirements.
ReplyDeleteA lengthy succession of Yes-lead polls, allied to the already existing Yes majority of MSPs in Holyrood and it would now be almost impossible for any Scottish Secretary to deny a new Indyref.
I'm anticipating Westminster making an issue around the term 'consensus.'
DeleteRealistically we need to drive support for independence to at least 60% before Westminster’s going to budge.
DeleteHi, KC.
DeleteCan we just leave Nicola Sturgeon out of it please?
ReplyDeleteTell her to shut her gob then and return the £600k.
DeleteAll the articles I read seem to be so intent on making their own points, that even when they quote this by Burnham:
ReplyDelete"I would say exactly the same situation in Scotland. I am not aware that there is a majority of public support for another referendum, and until that changes there will not be one."
they think it means public support for Independence.
No, what Burnham clearly said was "a majority of public support for another referendum" - whether YES or NO.
https://archive.is/oeXo5
Delete"The National columnists react to Andy Burnham's indyref2 route"
GMK has "Believe in Scotland has rewritten our Scotland's Right to Choose action-petition, already signed by 23,000 people. Signing sends emails directly to Burnham, Scottish Secretary Douglas Alexander, your MP and List MSPs."
https://www.believeinscotland.org/indyref_petition
Oh jings, reading the others two columnists, Ruth Wishart and Robin McAlpine don't get it, whereas GMK - does. As does Swinney.
DeleteIt's not majority support for Independence is needed for another referendum, it's majority support FOR ANOTHER REFERENDUM.
Never know these days right enough but should be legal enough to convince a good politician, not (yet) aware that there is a majority of public support (for whatever), with a parliamentary vote on the matter!
DeleteThe Nolan Show discussing the NI agreement. It seems unionist believe 50+1 is enough for unionism but for an all Ireland republic it has to be 60%.
ReplyDeleteHow come 62% of Scots wanting to remain in the eu wasn't enough? Ask NI cos they are have an advantage to markets we don't have.
In many countries a supermajority is needed for major changes.
DeleteThe UK as a whole voted to leave the EU. We are part of the UK, as are parts of England who also voted remain.
DeleteParts of England are England. Scotland is a nation.
DeleteIn many countries they practice democracy rather than preach it.
Delete5:09pm makes a very good point.
DeleteAnon @ 3:36
ReplyDeleteYou dismiss anyone who rages against the planned deindustrialisation of the UK and the mass unemployment which inevitably came with it as a Fascist or an extremist because they vote Reform UK. The possibility that they lack the political education to understand the root causes of the problem doesn’t occur to you. They are beyond redemption, beyond being educated.
I will stand by my point which you so airily dismiss and wave good riddance as you fade into the distance in your own rigidly defined bubble of your own purity and diminishing agency. Your attitude cannot build a movement, it most assuredly destroys it.
11.17 AI drivel! You would think that AI would fix the grammatical errors. Proof that you should read through your comment before posting. ‘deindustrialisation of the UK’? Surely you meant Scotland!
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