Scottish voting intentions for next UK general election (Redfield & Wilton):
SNP 35% (+1)
Labour 35% (-1)
Conservatives 17% (-)
Liberal Democrats 9% (+3)
Greens 2% (-)
Reform UK 2% (-1)
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Be interesting to see what the seat projection is on this poll.
ReplyDeleteVery encouraging poll for SNP supporters.
ReplyDeleteIt is encouraging. Let’s hope the SNP’s fortunes continue to improve between now and the GE. Hopefully supporters of independence get behind the party, and those considering abstaining or spoiling ballot papers have a rethink.
DeleteI'd say it was beyond encouraging, it's seismic in my opinion. This is an incredible poll if true, would allow us the chance to be an independent country. Even if we lose 19 seats and a large proportion of our vote we can still claim Independence.
DeleteMaybe you’re getting a bit carried away anon at 11:11. Nevertheless it’s good to see positivity 👍
DeleteWe LOSE 19 seats and a large percentage of our vote and can still claim independence? What am I missing here?
DeleteIt would be a majority of the constituencies in Scotland voting for independence. That's why is so important for us to win the 29. We can lose as many votes as possible, as long as we win the 29 independence negotiations start.
DeleteI'm sorry mate but the idea that London or the international community will take our claim for independence seriously based on 35% of the vote is fantasy, majority of seats or not.
DeleteAnonymous at 12.28pm where and when is this vote for independence happening. I want to vote for it. Anon you are living in a fantasy world even if they got 29 seats there will be no negotiations. The SNP have had a majority of seats in Westminster since since 2015.
DeleteFelix at times when you read this stuff I wonder is this SNP employees sent out desperately trying to hold on to their jobs.
Yeah, I think I'll have some of whatever this guy's been drinking.😁😁😁
DeleteWhy is it fantasy to believe that winning a majority of seats will increase independence prospects? I fully believe if we get the 29 regardless of vote share independence is another step closer. You only have strawman replies.
DeleteWell we already HAVE a majority of seats (56 of 59 in 2015 and currently 48) and we're still not independent. I think that's a pretty big clue right there. I don't know who the strawman is you're referring to but you seem to have the political nous of Worzel Gummidge - put your thinking head on for God's sake!😂😂😂
DeleteListen I was in George square in Glasgow in Nov 2019 ( James Kelly was there as well) weeks before the UK GE. Sturgeon/Yousaf and all the rest of the speakers put together by The National attending punted the line vote SNP for independence. After the election when they got their MPs safely back on the gravy train Sturgeon gave her surrender speech in Jan 2020. There would be no illegal referendum she said. Johnston had told her to pissof with her sec 30 request.
DeleteMore than 4 years on people are still punting the same lies/fantasy but it ain't the SNP it's random anonymous posters.
Who to believe?
My point to Felix is that we have tried to go down the Section 30 referendum route and been told that we cannot do so. Constitutionally, that route is now closed. The only other democratic route available therefore is via gaining a majority of the seats contested in Scotland at a UK general election - which incidentally had been the SNP policy for over 65 years until Salmond persuaded the SNP National Council to change to the Section 30 route back in March 2000. If Westminster will neither permit a Section 30 referendum nor recognise the mandate for independence from a UK general election result then the SNP and a Scottish Constitutional Convention will then have the entitlement to progress matters through international channels. The UK government has agreed that there can be a Border referendum in Northern Ireland every seven years if there is a democratic mandate for one. Why should democracy apply then in Northern Ireland but not in Scotland?
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Delete(Sigh) And my point is that attempting to use a drop from 48 to 29 seats and from 45% to 35% of the popular vote as a mandate for independence will be laughed out of every court you chose to go before. If you honestly can't see how ludicrous your position is, I've a couple of bridges I'd like to sell you. I'm all for more people posting on here but you appear to have taken leave of your senses. Is that why you chose to post anonymously?
Delete@3:47 “The UK government has agreed that there can be a Border referendum in Northern Ireland every seven years if there is a democratic mandate for one”
DeleteUntrue. The words in the Good Friday agreement are, in fact, if the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland chooses to. UK retains the keys.
I expect no further referenda in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland for decades to come.
@IFS. Me and my friends were also in George Square that day. I think I posted on Scot goes pop at the time. Plenty of us regular non-aligned but 100% yes foot soldiers were there. I also remember very well the unfamiliar faces (SNP) both on the stage and in the crowd. Nicola wasn’t the only one who never, not in a million years went on an AUOB march with the rest of us.
DeleteShe soon proved that all her words were empty. She took us for a good, long, cushy ride. Scotland and the movement deserves so much better
Anonymous at 3.47pm -
Delete1. you say "The only other democratic route is...." Wrong, very clearly wrong - de facto referendum is democratic and legal it could happen NOW at Holyrood or any other future election.
2. " but not in Scotland" - crikey it takes a while for the penny to drop in a lot of people. N.Ireland is a colony that Westminster has been forced to provide a border referendum as part of the peace agreement. N. Ireland economically isn't of great value to Westminster. Scotland is a colony that Westminster cannot afford to lose.
Felix, I agree with you about the poster who suggested independence negotiations could begin if the SNP win 29 seats at the GE, has taken leave of his senses.
DeleteThe only thing I’d say is 29 seats is better than the worst case scenario many are predicting. If they did manage to retain 29 seats or better hopefully that would be the low point, and we could build on that going forward.
That's pretty much how I see it. The party needs to be shocked into the realisation that supporters want action on independence, not all this trans rights pronoun nonsense. They have the loopy Greens for that. An SNP minus the purple haired brigade and fat gravy slurpers at Westminster and Holyrood, refocussed on independence is the only way it will lead us to independence.
DeleteThe changes are within sampling error.
ReplyDeleteCorrect. And “one poll does not a trend make.” I do have my fingers crossed that young folk in England see through Starmer. Mind, what can they do about it? First past the post forces the “choice” to be between hideous Tories and hideous Tory-lite Labour. In their place, I’d be just as unwilling to vote for either of them as I am here in Scotland where “the choice” is between liar SNP and Labour.
DeleteAs we get into the election campaign and we see Starmer try to outtory Sunak by promising more years of austerity, the Labour lead will fall, the outcome at no.10 will go back to being uncertain, and the SNP's share of the the vote will increase.
ReplyDeleteI agree. We need independence supporters to get right behind the SNP though.
DeleteHow about the SNP getting right behind independence? Is that asking too much?
DeleteAlba not doing well in this poll.
ReplyDeletePrecisely, we need to get behind the SNP, simple as that.
DeleteAnonymous at 9.29am - and that is because Sturgeon's gang and her lying alphabetty helpers trashed his reputation by working with the Britnats. Yousaf knows this and keeps stum because he is Sturgeon's self confessed continuity candidate. It is a joke to call the SNP an independence party when it's Chief Exec is Britnat Murray Foote ex Daily Record editor who authored the Infamous Vow in 2014 that broke the Edinburgh Agreement. Numpties will accept anything it seems. What's next Boris Johnston as the SNP's fundraiser because he is good at raising money.
DeleteAlba got off to a bad start in 2021. I voted for them, but the polls were sadly right and they flopped. Can’t see a turnaround for them now. Salmond’s brand is, however unfairly, ruined beyond repair.
DeleteAnon 1 34 agree. The only sensible thing is vote snp
DeleteWhen they run this as a plebiscite election, I will.
DeleteUntil then: they are shadow unionists.
What is a plebiscite election?
DeleteGoogle it. You’ll find that Nicola Sturgeon herself demanded one after the Supreme Court fiasco. It is very widely discussed. You know, just in case you’re not trolling.
DeleteAnon at 4 50, never heard of it, and as you never answered my question am assuming you don’t know either.
DeleteIf you've never heard of a plebiscite election, I don't know what you're doing on a blog about psephology.
DeleteSNP - 50% of the vote in 2015 UK GE . Today polling at 35% of the vote.
ReplyDeleteThat is a story of success according to some numpties. Get right behind the people who don't want independence and who drove the percentage vote down so they can say we won't win a de facto referendum - say other numpties. I've said it for years Sturgeon's gang will never deliver independence because they don't want to. Don't listen to what they say but look at what they have done.
Do you recommend that people support Alba instead?
DeleteShe is a Unionist and as such supports whichever party in her constituency that might beat the Independence party.
DeleteAnonymous at 10.47pm - personally I will vote Alba if a candidate stands in my constituency. The problem is that I have heard Alba are likely to only have 12 candidates standing. Recent events ( post office ) in the shithouse that is the UK have shown you get results by broadcasting a drama. Never forget the Tory connections to the company that sold the Post Office the dodgy software. Sunak's wife's Infoyss company have a business arrangement with them and a Tory minister's husband is an ex CEO of Fujitsu and the Tories and the Scotgov gave this company billions of pounds worth of contracts knowing about their faulty Post Office system.
DeleteThe answer may well be that Yousaf should Commission a Netflix drama series to promote Scottish independence - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 never going to happen - SNP have no money - the numpties who keep declaring their love and admiration for Sturgeon's gang don't seem to stick their hands in their pockets and donate. Why is that? It leaves the SNP dependent on Westminster funds. The SNP cannae get itself independent from Westminster and numpties expect us to believe they can get Scotland free from Westminster. Apart from that Sturgeon's gang don't want independence anyway.
Surely independence for Scotland you can’t be serious if ur considering voting Alba if Alba are competing against the snp!!
DeleteThat’s just a wasted vote unless u think Alba can beet the snp. That probably means handing the seat to Labour tho. Just nuts!
Anonymous at 1.44pm a history lesson for you that's exactly what the unionists used to say about the SNP. The unionists used to say a vote for the SNP is a wasted vote. Now the unionists keep banging on that the SNP never stop talking about independence - which is a lie. The unionists want people who want independence to vote SNP because they know the SNP will never deliver independence.
DeleteTo say the SNP will never deliver independence is ridiculous. How do you know that independence for Scotland?
DeleteOf course the snp want independence, they are the Scottish National party after all and ew need to get behind them 100%.
Nellie Dawson says N Sturgeon is a unionist!!
DeleteWhat a bizarre comment.
We gave her 56 of Scotland’s 59 MPs. Where’s our independence?
DeleteIt was her shot to take. She didn’t. That says everything.
Anonymous at 3.45pm - you get behind them if you want but don't come complaining when they shit all over you.
DeleteThere are a lot of anonymous posters pitching up posting simple statements about supporting the SNP, get behind the SNP etc etc nothing backing up their assertions. Are all these posters simple or has Murray Foote spent the missing £600k on some sort of AI system that isn't very intelligent.
Anonymous at 3.45pm " How do you know that ...." well I don't know that as an absolute fact. I thought that would be obvious. It's an opinion based on what has happened to the SNP in the last 9 years. All the evidence shows Sturgeon's gang don't want independence and at present the likelihood of that changing is remote. The SNP members - (only 11% voted for Regan) voted for Yousaf to be Leader.
DeleteLooks like no change to me, which is good. The Labour rhetoric that the only way to remove the Tories is to vote Labour doesn't work in Scotland.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn’t need to. Scottish MPs are utterly irrelevant.
DeleteMany such as Mhairi Black, Stephen Flynn, and Ian Blackford have made a real impact and carry weight when they speak in the house.
DeleteThey do? I must have missed it though Blackford certainly carries a lot of weight wherever he is and Mhairi is a powerful advocate for drag queens in primary schools.
DeleteAnonymous at 9.08pm - " carry weight" if you are an independence supporter you are very easily pleased.
DeleteThat's what I was saying, Starmer is not even proposing fake promises like Gordon Brown style, not an inch more of devolution, why would independence supporters vote for him?
ReplyDeleteDon’t polls consistently show 20 or 30% of Labour voters in Scotland are pro-Indy?
DeleteChanges in %s are tiny, noise. Only one change of any size is for LibDems, up 3%, and there is no particular, convincing, reason (that I am aware of) to think that they are benefiting from any actual uplift in support.
ReplyDeleteOff topic: Grousebeater says that planning permission has been granted to get rid of the steps at the top of Buchanan st Glasgow in front of the concert hall to facilitate an extension for the shopping centre. Well if that happens I hope the builders "accidently " dump that ugly statue of Donald Dewer in a skip and cart it away to a dump somewhere. Dewer helped create the illusion that we live in a democracy but when it came right down to it Scotland is a colony.
ReplyDeleteDonald Dewar was not so bad surely?
DeleteAnonymous at 7.27 - is that comment a wind up? Dewar did a deal with Blair to move the Scottish sea border with England so that they could try to claim more sea bed as English, claim oil and gas fields as being English and pochle any reports on the origin of oil and gas revenues. Only a grovelling Labour traitor would do that.
DeleteHey you could turn up when the work starts and ask if you could have his statue for your back garden if you are such a fan.
Anon at 7 27, I was no fan of D Dewar that’s for sure. However I do think independence for Scotland goes over the top and is probably a bit out of order
DeleteAnonymous at 7.53pm - I think you should start the Be Nice to Britnats National Party. Oh wait the SNP have got that market cornered.
DeleteI think of him as having been one of the good guys in politics. A decent man.
DeleteAnonymous at 9:06pm, I agree.
DeleteAnonymous at 9.32pm and 9.06pm - so you don't care about him shifting the Scottish sea border northwards to give the English some Scottish gas and oil fields. Question - does that make you an English or a Scottish patriot?
DeleteStarmer a war monger just like Sunak but he cannae claim the excuse of being low in the polls and wanting to boost his political position. If you vote for either of these two war criminals you are complicit in the murder of many many people. Aye that's right even the so called left wingers still clinging on in the Labour Party. If you think you are a decent person then what the hell are you doing being a member of these parties or voting for them. The UK a shithouse of a country run by the shittiest of politicians.
ReplyDeleteYousaf says he wants a Tory free Scotland. It should just be a free Scotland. He might not be happy at children being murdered in the Middle East but he is keeping us in this murderous UK. Independence or just f**k off Yousaf.
Opinium- Scottish cross break has SNP 42, Labour 34.
ReplyDeleteGranted it's a small sub-sample, nevertheless that adds to a few "better" showings of late now than the SNP have had during Summer-Autumn'23.
Certainly looking a bit better.
DeleteCaveats acknowledged, another very encouraging poll for SNP.
DeleteYousaf is gradually growing on me.
DeleteLooks like others might be sharing my view.
I think Humza has grown in sureness-of-touch.
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ReplyDeletePlease do try to get the spelling of his name right.
ReplyDeleteYou should be writing your own blog mate.👍👍👍
ReplyDeleteThe combined SNP and Greens share of the vote is 37%. No mention of Alba!
ReplyDeleteWe’ll be in no position to ask for a referendum after the GE if this plays out.
James - your poster - WT - appears to closely resembles poster who has the name, 'Academical' on the Rangers fans website, 'FollowFollow'. The individual concerned posts mainly in the 'Lounge' of that website on political matters, particularly on a thread titled 'Nat bashing'. The individual is an avowed unionist and from more than a few of the posts that I have seen on your site recently it would appear that unionists are now using it to troll the SNP and independence.
ReplyDeleteThis is truly pathetic. Anyone who is critical of the SNP and the Blessed Nicola in particular is immediately condemned as a unionist on here. No attempt is made to consider why people may have become disillusioned over the years, just smears and lazy assumptions about their motives. If this is all the party faithful have to offer in terms of political analysis, the SNP vote share will continue to slip. Give it a rest!
DeleteBy the way, I wouldn't want to admit to reading that website. What are you doing there? Are you a secret Rangers supporting unionist? This paranoia thing is catching isn't it?
DeleteSaying Nicola Sturgeon is a unionist is also truly pathetic.
DeleteWhere did I say she was? I just think she was a poor leader.
DeleteShe certainly never led us an inch closer to indy, did she?
DeleteYou're either a heretic or a unionist troll! Which is it?😂😂😂
DeleteFelix at 10.58pm - a very good point why is an independence supporter regularly reading the ravings of someone on that site - the poster must be a masochist.
DeleteRemember our site host has himself drifted from SNP to Alba so presumably he's also a closet unionist. Strangely enough though he advocates voting SNP in constituency elections. What kind of unionist infiltrator does that? - he's letting the side down 😁
DeleteFelix at 11.09 - I'll say it then Sturgeon and her gang are unionists or Britnats if you prefer that term. I'll explain why I say that. I've explained it before but always happy to do it again. Each and everyone of them have been and still are happy with devolution. They like this cosy middle ground where they can just blame Westminster for all their failings and pick up votes promising a referendum at elections etc etc. If you are a devolutionalist you are always asking for more powers and then moaning about bad Westminster when they say no - Sturgeon's gang do this. If you are a devolutionist then you are a Unionist. The devolutionalists didn't like Salmond because he is for independence. The devolutionalists don't like independence referendums. The plebs might actually vote for independence and then their cosy jobs would be in jeopardy.
DeleteIndependence for Scotland is clearly not a fan of Nicola sturgeon. However to claim her and her gang as he puts it are unionists is plainly rediculous. He appears to have lost the plot slightly.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous at 9.03am - I explained my logic for my viewpoint. You on the other hand did not. There was no critique of what I posted just another anonymous assertion. So, in summary, I have the same respect for you as I have for Sturgeon - absolute zero.
DeleteI' m looking forward to Sturgeon being held to account for her Covid decisions - coming soon. Will she be allowed to lie as often as she did during her 8hour session in front of the Scottish Parliament Inquiry? Certainly, it looks like John REDACTOR MAN Swinney has learned from the Inquiry and tried to get ahead this time and told them to destroy as much info as possible even after they were instructed not to destroy anything by the Covid Inquiry.
Re Felix 10.46pm and fellow unionist troll, 'Independence for Scotland' at 11.34pm - to paraphrase Shakespeare, 'methinks the ladies doth protest too much'!
ReplyDeleteMe thinks you don't think🤡🤡🤡
DeleteAn anonymous numpty at 11.10am who quotes the English Shakespeare tells us everything about you. Cannae find anything from Burns. Decolonise your mind.
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ReplyDelete'Independence for Scotland' - here's one from Burns that he would have used to describe unionist trolls like your good self - 'sic a parcel o' rogues in a nation'!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous at 12.32pm - he was talking about the Scottish parliamentarians of 1707 ya numpty and he would have used it to say the same about the current lot in Holyrood and Westminster. You numpties cannae even get your insults correct.
Delete'Independence for Scotland' - aye, and he would have recognised the unionists like you among them when he penned that line to describe them.
ReplyDelete🥕 muncher.
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