Wednesday, February 26, 2025

Labour slump to new post-election low of 23%, and a dismal third place, in new More In Common poll

GB-wide voting intentions (More In Common, 21st-24th February 2025):

Conservatives 25% (+2)
Reform UK 24% (-2)
Labour 23% (-2)
Liberal Democrats 16% (+4)
Greens 8% (+1)
SNP 3% (-)

23% is the lowest figure for Labour in a More In Common poll since the general election, and is only 1% above the lowest post-election figure for Labour across all polling firms.  And Starmer ought to be far more concerned by that vote share than by being in third place.  Paradoxically, third place is almost a boon for him because it's a by-product of the right-wing vote being split down the middle, which is actually keeping Labour in contention.  But even though that split has persisted for months now, I still struggle to imagine it continuing for four more years until the next general election.  One way or another, the right-wing vote will consolidate, meaning that unless Labour's own vote recovers radically, they will suffer a record-breaking defeat that will make them nostalgic for 1983 and 2019.

Interestingly, More In Common agrees with the new YouGov poll in that it shows Reform UK dipping by a couple of percentage points and the Tories recovering a bit. That could be the start of a new trend, or it could just be margin of error noise replicated by two different pollsters by pure coincidence.

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I said yesterday that Labour's cynicism in cutting the overseas aid budget to spend more on the military was a reflection of the new Trumpian post-morality transactional world, but I'm slightly stunned at how little attempt they're making to hide that fact.  When criticised for the aid cuts, the Defence Secretary John Healey said that "hard power" was more important than "soft power" - as if he couldn't even imagine anyone thinking that humanitarian funding could possibly have any purpose or value other than as a projection of British power.  The idea that rich countries have a moral obligation to assist the world's poorest would, it seems, be entirely alien to him.

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113 comments:

  1. IMO, it is only a matter of time until the Fascist, Racist Scumbag Reform bubble bursts.

    Their wee orange 'god across the water' in Washington is presently nose-diving into dictatorial insanity and popular disgust and Reform will soon follow that piece of garbage into the bin.

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    1. Eleanor was saying the very same at the bus stop this morning.

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    2. Even if that's true they've already pushed politics much further to the right and Labour don't seem interested in pushing back.

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    3. I see Francis is back with his usual drivel.

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    4. A Reform half wit comments.

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  2. A lot will depend on which direction the most popular/habitually accessible to voters media decides to land the nitty gritty. Starmer is already invoking the WW2 rhetoric and that always perks up the attention and empathy of nostalgia-driven UK voters - which will go down strongly with anti-independence voters in Scotland as well.

    Reform can misuse the logic behind foreign aid initiatives and turn it into taxpayers money being sent overseas 'bad'. His target voters are not the most sophisticated in a sense and can't be counted on to see beyond surfaces of messaging. He goes for the simplistic quick fix and attend to the British home front first rhetoric which has its appeal. We assume Scottish voters see beyond that - but they don't, even the more malleable independence voters who just like a bit of mixing up for the sake of it, are attracted to Farage.

    Depending on how Starmer is seen to deal with Trump, and with the Britain needs to defend itself/WW2 phrases - he could easily win back a lot of voters on the Britain must stand as '4 nations as 1 together' platform - which has big emotional pull. Farage is bound to attempt to feed into that.

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    1. Independence voters need to keep the heid and not demand the fools rush in responses.

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    2. I heard Avril Plenderleith telling Jimsie that on the 23 this morning.

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    3. Anon at 12:20 pm ... I don't accept that many independence voters are attracted to Farage. Far from it.

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  3. Update!

    Christopher McEleny
    60/100 nominations received
    Across 20/20 Local Authority areas

    4 days to go. Will he get 40 more nominations in time!?

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    1. Mad Dog McEleny is losing his cool. Expect some mad story in the Record tomorrow about how Alex Salmond cured a Macedonian orphan of leprosy by laying hands on her and now McEleny will be adopting her, bringing her to Scotland and changing her name to Sovereignty.

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    2. He won't but he will.

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    3. Is he in charge of the process? If so, yes. If not, no.

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    4. He's suspended for gross misconduct, so no, he's not in charge (although he otherwise would have been).

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    5. Chris has resorted to DM'ing random Alba members on Twitter with:

      Hi,

      Nominations for depute leader are still open, I think a contest would be great to allow members more space to debate policy in advance of conference. I would be grateful if you were able to nominate me.

      Thanks, Chris

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    6. Hi Chris. Can you give me a single reason why I should vote for you? I know there are two sides to every story but even if only half of what James Kelly claims is true, no sane person could vote for you.

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    7. What a load of shit. Let's shit for independence. If you want independence then you need to shit for independence.

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  4. England is going more extreme right wing as every month passes. Beats me how people think that Westminster will eventually GRANT a sec 30 referendum if we just keep voting SNP.

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    1. Only a firm, committed, Swinney-secured Scotgov can sit down for Scotland and really enjoy those comfy parly seats.

      Snug For Scotland!

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    2. You're a thick plank of wud Tomlin.

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    3. Not voting snp will guarantee even more britnat nonesense and even less chance of independence or even Holyrood remaining. Scotlands settled will is what England decides.

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    4. 2.41pm an extreme right wing Westminster government may well decide to get rid of devolution no matter how many SNP MSPs there are. An extreme right wing Westminster government may decide to make independence itself illegal. Yet some SNP loyalists just think independence will just happen in the future and that there is no need to rush things.

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    5. Quite incredible the number of dimwits still going on about this independence nonsense!!

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    6. Anon at 3.18. What are you doing? And what do you propose? Decry and weaken the only party capable of furthering Indy, thus facilitating the very thing you seem to fear?

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    7. 3.42pm - it’s bloody obvious what anon at 3.18pm is saying.

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  5. I do not think that sending in peacekeepers after and agreement is 'adventurism in Ukraine'. You thought that giving up 10 percent of Ukrainian territory would be a good result for Ukraine. On that analogy which 10 percent of Scotland would you give up for full scottish sovereignty over the rest?

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    1. We've got 0% at present and nobody seems to have any great sense of urgency about getting up to 1% let alone 90%, so maybe direct your sactimonious lectures elsewhere.

      Although I'm sure Keir will be thrilled with your ra-ra-ra support for Brit militarism.

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    2. Give Westminster the oil fields they keep saying are just about finished ( but they know that is a lie) and tell them to take their nukes as well.

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    3. Tony Blair and George Bush set the initial standard in breaking international law and ignoring the UN by invading Iraq. We are now seeing what happens when rules are ignored. It’s back to the old days of might is right and the mighty will take what they want approach and to hell with international law and the UN.

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    4. ukraine is not a real country, never was; lenin gave it far too much territory and the west should be polish or lithuanian.

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    5. Anonymous at 3:34 PM

      It must be blissful to live in a simple world where lack of knowledge is a comfort and allows someone to spout out drivel and never realise s/he is making an embarrassing fool of him/herself.

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    6. The Irish aren't a real country either, they all came from somewhere else, damn foreigners coming from other places taking over our countries
      Ooops! that's what the English do

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    7. Spain isn't a real country either because my Auntie Rita heard a woman speaking Spanish in Tenerife and it turns our she was from Fraserburgh.

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  6. It's neither sanctimonious .nor support for militarism - it was saying that sending a peacekeeping force to Ukraine after an agreement is hardly an example of militarism. And the point about sovereignty you avoid. just as Richard Tice did. Here is a version of the question that was current in the 2014 referendum. What if in the negotiations about a referendum, Westminster said it wanted to retain sovereignty for the area around the Trident base?

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    1. Stuart Campbell has already answered that question - he says "yup, let them take it". Why rant at James?

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    2. Is Stuart Campbell the guy that was a DJ on WestSound?

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    3. The Royal "We"....surely not the man himself?

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    4. The royal we. Usual pish then?

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    5. If you want to get ahead get a war, British politics 101

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  7. Encouraging figures, again, for the LibDems.

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  8. Are the Lib Dem’s pro eu, free tuition fees, pro austerity?

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    1. The Lib Dem’s are pro anything they think will get them a ministerial car.

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    1. Where? Isle of White, Englatera?

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    2. Fool Britannia mair like.

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    3. Give up on the lunacy of independence for pity’s sake.
      Not happening!

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    4. Anon 555,
      Agreed, thankfully the dimwits that support independence remain in a minority though.

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    5. Spoken like true house jocks

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    6. Jocks? They're English.

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  10. O/T but Campbell posted on the topic of Independence yesterday and has had minimal response from the mouth frothers. It seems they just aren’t interested if the discussion doesn’t involve genitalia and gender growling. Why is that?

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    1. We don't want no independence, we want to complain about women and dodgy sex stuff

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    2. I’m sending you money as I type.

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    3. Musk-Campbell Fruitcake CompanyFebruary 26, 2025 at 9:00 PM

      The reverend isn't in favour of independence.

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  11. Nicola Sturgeon ate my cat.

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    1. Did she have chips or mash with it?

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  12. Can’t believe John Swinney has allowed himself to be cornered on the trans use of changing facilities. Ensure there is a biological women only safe space. Trans can use separate facilities, failing which biology will determine which facilities they use. That is the law. Get this hugely damaging issue finalised with a definitive statement. Sturgeons guidelines are unlawful. Almost unbelievable we still need to do this. If J S isn’t up to it he needs to go.

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    1. You'd love that wouldn't you

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    2. Anon at 7.21. Do you have anything to say?

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    3. can't the trans she beasts use the disabled loos - they are clearly "not right in the head" and thus qualify

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    4. its a shame the asylums were gotten rid of as they could be put to great use warehousing these perverts and dangers to society; it's what they were for - but thatcher wanted all the nutters roaming the streets for growth and GDP and theconmy

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    5. Stu's spelling could do with much improvement.

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  13. Just anounced figures show that the Scottish Economy, under the stewardship of the SNP Scotgovt, outperformed the UK as a whole, last year.

    Follows hard on the heels of recent stats showing the Scottish NHS also outperforming the rest, on crucial waiting-time targets and NHS Staff wages.

    Excellent news

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    1. Says the man who praised wee Sturgeon during Covid.
      A sad individual!

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    2. Anon 7.22 is that you Boris?

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    3. Fucking hell Francis, will you just fuck off

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    4. Francis needs to put a sock in it.

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    5. Anon at 7.22PM
      "Over three quarters (78%) of Scots think the Scottish Government has handled the crisis well so far, compared with 34% who say the same of the UK Government."

      Ipsos Mori 26 May 2020

      https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/four-five-scots-say-nicola-sturgeon-has-handled-coronavirus-outbreak-well

      Just about everyone I know thought the same. Your Bojo was a sad joke, and it would have been worse for the UK but he was basically forced to follow Sturgeon's lead.

      I think she burnt herself out during the Covid crisis.

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    6. David Francis, the Scottish Government does not run the Scottish economy. Scotland would have to be independent for that to be the case. Stop posting misinformation.

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    7. Sturgeon was a disgrace during Covid.

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    8. The unions wee anons are out in force today. The flute practice will suffer. The music is going to be shite in July. How is the diet going?

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  14. Nope, that wasn’t me at 7.22

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  15. Doesn't matter how many times we keep getting cancelled and deleted we're gonna bring it. Cos in dependence needs a big fat shit.

    So lets shit for independence.

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    1. Take your hands out of your nappy.

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  16. Time for medication.

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  17. What’s going on with Bitcoin today ?!?

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    1. It met up with Baroness Moan last night. They went on the batter and now they're both trashed 🗑.

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    2. Does this baroness moan in a good or a bad sense, or both?

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    3. Would an independent Scotland result in a higher Bitcoin price?

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    4. Between 2021 and 2022 - mostly thanks to BrexSHIT - Domestic Energy prices in the UK rose a staggering 215% while the EU Average rise was only 41%.

      We are STILL suffering the price of that idiocy even now.

      NEVER forget that it was the SAME gibbering, moronic f#cking cretins who now pollute Reform UK, who were the main driving force behind that bucket of cold sick.

      They were then.....and still are....a bunch of half-witted, clueless, brainless, useless twats.

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  18. Farage has been PROTECTING PUTIN for at least the last 5 years.

    He is a PUTIN STOOGE -

    Nigel Farage’s party voted AGAINST stronger EU measures aimed at countering “highly dangerous” Russian disinformation in a 2019 vote.

    A European parliament resolution calling for an upgrade of the EU’s anti-propaganda unit 'East StratCom', as well as support for public service media, passed comfortably with the support of the largest political groups.

    But Farage and the Brexit Party voted AGAINST the resolution.

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  19. Reform UK are Russian/Putin Puppets.

    News article 25/2/25 -

    'The former leader of Reform UK in Wales has appeared in court accused of accepting bribes to make statements in the European Parliament that would benefit Russia.

    Nathan Gill, 51, from Llangefni on Anglesey, is facing eight counts of bribery and one count of conspiracy to commit bribery.'

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    1. You need to put a sock in it Francis, you’re embarrassing yourself.

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    2. Nice morning.

      Tesla shares now down 25% year on year and Tesla sales down 45% in Europe.

      Enjoy yer day 😁😁😁

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    3. Slight correction.

      Tesla sales are now down 50% in Europe.

      Time for a coffee 👍

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    4. Nice day😀

      Despite everything, support for this independence nonsense remains below 50%.

      Enjoy the rest of your day🤣🤣

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    5. Wrong, Dummy.

      Last 4 polls have Yes in the leac and above 50% -

      6/12/24 - Yes 54%
      24/12/24 - Yes 52%
      20/1/25 - Yes 52%
      14/2/25 - Yes 51%



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    6. Francis must be one of the deluded fools who believes Find Out Now polls!

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    7. Poor, wee, irrelevant Anon Coward at 2:03pm -

      Figures taken from that well known "deluded fool" Prof John Curtice's site, where he is satisfied with their bona fides.

      Try harder.

      Ta.

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    8. Says David Francis, the man who praised wee Sturgeon during Covid!
      A sad individual!

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    9. Too right I did.
      Which UK Leader performed better during that time?

      C'mon Anon Coward...........could do with a laugh 😂

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    10. Sturgeon was an absolute disgrace during Covid, an embarrassment to Scotland.

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    11. Don't talk such f#cking pish, you Anon Clown.

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    12. Her political grandstanding, during the Covid tragedy, was nothing short of shameful.

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    13. Utter Garbage.

      The only cretins spewing that crap are either Yoons, Albaists or Wingnuts.

      Which are you???

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    14. Not utter garbage!
      During Covid was the only time support for independence was above 50%, as thousands of gullible fools fell for her grandstanding. Thankfully most now see it for what it was. It was truly desperate and shameful.

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    15. Lol.
      An Albaist/Wingnut.
      As expected.
      Get lost.

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    16. Stop embarrassing yourself for pity’s sake Francis!

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    17. Stop posting shite, you Anon Coward.

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    18. So says Francis, the Sturgeon worshipper.

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    19. Wrong.
      But she was head and shoulders above any other National Leader in the UK, during Covid.
      Whether irrelevant wee Anon-Coward Dribblers like you agree, or not, is of absolutely no interest to me.

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    20. Embarrassing bullshit from Francis@4:23.
      What a halfwit!

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    21. That's still a full 'half' ahead of you, Dummy.

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    22. Francis, in common with many Nats, hates being told the truth.

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    23. Anons, in common with other Anons, are spineless, gutless, irrelevant wastes of space.

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    24. Dave Francis, a gullible fool still clinging to the hope independence will happen one day.
      Dear oh dear.

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  20. The anon unionists are out in force tonight. Usual drivel. Rumour has it there are only two of them, and they have a close working relationship.

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