Friday, June 14, 2024

Is it Julie Etchingham that has the anti-Palestinian agenda, or is it her bosses?

When ITV and the BBC first announced that they intended to rig the only genuine leaders' debates of the campaign by totally excluding all but two parties, one of the concerns that was raised was that this would prevent proper scrutiny on the issue of Gaza, because the two hand-picked parties were largely in lockstep.  Rishi Sunak had told Benjamin Netanyahu, now wanted by the International Criminal Court for war crimes, that "we want you to win", while Keir Starmer had infamously said "Israel does have the right" to cut off food, water and electricity to the people of Gaza - precisely one of the war crimes Netanyahu faces prosecution for.

Nevertheless, the issue of Gaza did sneak into the ITV debate last week thanks to an audience member asking a question on it.  But then something odd happened. Before either Sunak or Starmer could answer, the ITV moderator Julie Etchingham effectively froze the debate so that she could 'explain' the question. That effectively entailed her reframing the question and turning it into a radically different question that was about the "Hamas terrorist atrocities of October 7th", when it was perfectly clear from his wording that the questioner was primarily asking about Israel's genocidal actions in Gaza.

But that was as nothing compared to the oddity of Etchingham's behaviour on last night's ITV debate between leading figures (ie. not necessarily leaders) of the seven largest parties, a format that should have belatedly allowed scrutiny of Labour and the Tories on Gaza.  Each paticipant was allowed to select one other participant to ask a question to, and until the SNP's Stephen Flynn was called, they were always allowed to ask a follow-up question after they heard the answer.  But because Flynn's question to Angela Rayner was about whether Labour would stop arms sales to Israel, Etchingham didn't allow him a follow-up. Instead she launched into yet another weird monologue "thanking" Flynn for his "important" question, which she decided for him had actually been about the terrorist atrocities of Hamas and Israel's "military operation" thereafter (apparently only Hamas can commit atrocities, and when Israel do it, the carnage takes the form of a much more orderly "military operation").  As thrilled as Flynn must have been with the thanks, he probably would have preferred that the extensive time taken up by the thanks had instead been used to give him the follow-up question he was entitled to.  He might, of course, have used that question to introduce words like "genocide" and "collective punishment" into the debate, which a cynic might suspect is the reason Etchingham didn't allow him to ask it.

Is it Etchingham herself who has the anti-Palestinian agenda, or is it her bosses barking instructions into her earpiece?

26 comments:

  1. Etchingham attended Newnham College, University of Cambridge before joining the BBC. In Smiley’s People, Sir Saul Enderby tries to pass failed MI6 Officer Nigel Mostyn off to the BBC. John le CarrĂ© knew a thing or two from his years as a spook.

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  2. The British media is the arbiter of all sound light and awkward questions

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  3. Looks like ITV told Etchingham to snuff out any talk of Gaza. Ever since the Corbyn witch hunt on antisemitism the whole Israeli Palestine thing seems to be a no go area.

    We will find out in three weeks what Labour's position is. My guess is it will be, as with so many things, the same as the Tory one. They will sell arms but perhaps with an accompanying Father Ted "Careful now".

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  4. I think that some producer was barking in her ear or there was a prearranged plan to intervene to allow say and shut the question down.

    FWIW I think that Flynn should've have asked a question along the lines of, "Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar has said that Nethanyahu is a war criminal because of Israel's actions against Palestinian women and children. Do you Angela Rayner believe that Nethanyahu's actions are acceptable?"

    Sarwar said this two or three days ago and it was reported in the press.

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    1. Asking if Labour believe Israel's actions are acceptable allows them to hedge by saying that not enough is known, etc. Better to ask whether they agree with the ICJ that there is a plausible case that Israel is conducting ethnic cleansing. Makes it more difficult for them to avoid a straight yes or no

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  5. Her bosses I suspect.
    Did you know Julie Etchingham's aunt ( Kathie Etchingham) shared a flat with Jimi Hendrix?

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    1. She also used to go shopping with Anita Harris.

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  6. Lord of the SlippersJune 14, 2024 at 2:34 PM

    Or maybe they just tried to shut it down because it's a niche issue that most people have little knowledge of or interest in. Politicians like to talk about Gaza only because it deflects from their own shortcomings and they think it gives them the moral high ground.

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    1. We can safely assume that's not the reason. Genocide is a universal issue anyway - it's not "niche".

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    2. It takes a sick mind to dismiss the murder of thousands of children as a niche issue. One doesn't have to have a moral highground here as LotS obviously has a moral underground somewhere near the centre of the earth.

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    3. Lord of the SlippersJune 14, 2024 at 7:36 PM

      Niche issue: relating or relatable to only a small section of the population.
      I haven't seen a survey of the public on issues affecting how they will vote where Gaza scores above 5% and the recent YouGov survey scored Gaza at 2%. So, yes it's a niche issue as far as affecting how people will vote in this election, which is what we're talking about here.
      Of course, I'll agree that targeted bombing of civilians is a ghastly act as is butchering unsuspecting revellers at a music festival. There are no good guys in the conflict. Israel is as bad as Hamas. It is an horrific situation that has got wildly out of control. It leaves me little short of total despair for the future of humanity but it is not going to make any difference to how I or 95+% of the population will vote at this election. Are we all sick minded or just more focused on the things that directly affect us and our families like the cost of living, healthcare and housing?

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    4. Quite right. Half the public couldn't point to Gaza on a map and nothing we say or do in Scotland will make the slightest difference to the situation in the Middle East. I want to hear about issues that affect my everyday life, not some politician virtue signalling about something they can do nothing about.

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  7. Im sure in the past one of Tony Blairs sons got a wee temporary job with the israeli authorities. I am sure none of his family took part in the gulf war or similar.

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  8. Excellent party political broadcast by Alba tonight.

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    1. So excellent that no one but you heard it?

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  9. Scotland the only country in the Euros with another country in the Euros controlling the broadcasting of its matches.

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    1. I watched STV, the programme titled Germany and Scotland. Imagine my surprise to see the manager of England's team discussing his country's prospects.

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    2. “So what “ says a House Jock.

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    3. He's not a House Jock. That's KC, an Englishman who pretends unconvincingly to be from Dumfries.

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    4. Yes, KC is an Englishman and lives in Sussex. It's doubtful he's ever set foot in Dumfries.

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  10. Ok this KC is a liar and a phoney but McCoist is a House Jock. Some people will say a 5-1 defeat is humiliating. I say House Jocks are humiliating.

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    1. I think in the interests of our non-bi are future that the remaining matches in the Euro tournament should be played with each player except the goalkeeper carrying a handbag over their left arm. This would emphasise diversity and encourage empathy among players and spectators. This is very appropriate during Pride month. I know it sounds strange but so did Votes For Wonen 100 years ago.

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  11. Goals, like independence, are much too dangerous. The winning strategy is to campaign on the cost of living crisis in midfield and hold them off by attrition.

    Oh, another scored against us? Chap harder, lads. These leaflets will set us level soon enough. Just hold on for the whistle.

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  12. Disappointing result last night.
    Let’s hope Serbia do better tomorrow.

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    1. They might well do if the hapless Rishi Sunak turns up to "inspire" their opponents! LOL

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