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But more importantly than all that, the Gender Reform legislation would not have been blocked.
ReplyDeleteby whom? The electorate vote for the party of choice not based on looking down your breeks and deciding how to vote. There are issues you will agree with and some you dont. X or 1,2,3 decides for Holyrood or local elections. Scotland does not matter other than for us to give up our resources for free to help England build the M25, Chanel tunnel, the High speed train to the "north", nuclear weapons as opposed to a proper defence force. Pay off Prince Andrew and the liz truss@s of the world. Independence is the only way for a better future for all.
DeleteArsehole. And I can’t add much more than that
Delete10.54 Obvious transphobe.
Delete10.54 More like a scotphobe!
DeleteExcellent list of some very important benefits of Scotland joining the world norm of independent nations.
ReplyDeleteAll of which are completely stymied by remaining in this anglo-centric, anglo-skewed and anglo-dominant sham of an 'equal union'.
I think the most important one of those six, as James said, is the inevitable switch in mindset which will affect most Scots after independence ( apart from the unionist zealots ).
ReplyDeleteSeeing Scotland as an independent entity, a sovereign nation in its own right, will completely change the narrative for most of us and will have beneficial ripple effects all through our society.
Wrong.
ReplyDeleteAs previously stated, after independence the whole Scottish narrative will change as a sovereign state.
With Scots fully in charge of their own defence, it is entirely probable that we would want to remove THE main target to be attacked by any enemy, from being psinted on our backs and invest instead in better conventional forces.
I see the post I was responding to has now been removed.
DeleteNo great loss.
No country has become independent since the USA broke away from Great Britain. It has been illegal ever since.
DeleteMalta, 21st September 1964, would you like a long list of all the others like Ireland 1949, it would take too long to list the rest so that'll do for now you very silly person
DeleteHaiti 1804, Latin American nations 1810’s-1820’s, Canada 1867 Philippines 1946, India1947, Pakistan 1947, Ghana 1957, Nigeria 1960, Kenya 1963, Ukraine 1991, Kazakhstan 1991, Eritrea 1993, East Timor 2002, Montenegro & Serbia 2006, Kosovo 2008, South Sudan 2011. Also primary governing empires that relinquished sovereignty over the 20th century include: United Kingdom: 35–65 countries including India, Nigeria, Jamaica, and Kenya. France: 26 countries mainly across West and Central Africa and Indochina. Soviet Union: 14 post-Soviet republics. Portugal & Belgium: Multiple African nations like Angola, Mozambique, Burundi, and Rwanda. And many many more! Scotland is next!
Delete10.31 Supposition. We've no idea how the population of an independent Scotland would view things.
DeleteFor example, it could be reasonably argued that with the anti Westminster element of the SNP vote removed Scotland would reveal it's traditional small c conservative values and reject the progressive agendas of the left of centre parties. It would be part of the magic of being independent, to find out who we are. Until that happens none of us can say what would / wouldn't play out.
More supposition from you, then.
Delete8.42 Yes, clearly stated as such and given as a 'possible' outcome whereas you seem to believe you know how an independent Scotland would behave.
DeleteNB The SNP also believe they know, which is why they are so lukewarm on independence.
Wrong again.
DeleteI simply said 'it is entirely probable' that we Scots would reject Trident after independence - and it is.
Another lie and insulting to SNP supporters. The fact is it is not easy to get independence through a democratic process that is flawed and with MSM and the Brit state actively stymying the role of Holyrood with support of creeps like Alexander and on the sidelines cole-hamilton. Remember when Joe Grimmond and co supported Federalism and was pro Eu
Deletea but, a but, a but! Give us brit nats real evidence that we are not in a consensual union and no you cant have a referendum.
ReplyDeleteWe gain the ability to question the NeoLiberal economics imposed on us in 1979 and never since seriously challenged. Planned, rapid deindustrialisation, erosion of employment law, zero hours contracts, etcetera. Make no mistake, this is denied us in the UK. Witness what happened to Jeremy Corbyn (and I’m no fan of Corbyn). Under Corbyn, Labour were assaulted by the State media, oligarch media and the Security Services. All under the false accusations of antisemitism.
ReplyDeleteBurnham may mump his gums about revisiting Thatcherism but he can’t or won’t do anything about it. Witness his vague statement about having a more pragmatic approach to Palestine. Five minutes later, the Imperial edict went out to all Labour councils to break off all coalition agreements with the Green Party because they opposed Apartheid. Bombs over bin collections.
Correct.
DeleteAfter independence, Scots can definitely take the opportunity to eradicate any and all Fascist Racist and Genocidal Zionist influence from our shores.
Correct. Wrong. Correct. Wrong. You must be fun to live with.
DeleteWrong.
DeleteCorrect.
DeleteANGLO FREI
ReplyDeleteit solves all problems, for example we don't want them bringing their islamic caliphate up here
they have funny food, they eat "hotpot"
Anon, 9.30 That may have made sense in your own heid
DeleteNope.
ReplyDeleteJust no Anglo Control from Anglo-Centred Westminster.
Scotland definitely does not need that and will thrive without it.
The dialectical paradigms of late-stage structural hegemony inherently necessitate a radical, yet paradoxically regressive, post-truth subversion of the democratic apparatus, wherein the proletariat’s systemic disenfranchisement will be obfuscated by the performative theatricality of bourgeois electoralism."
DeleteThe post WWII social settlement between the executive and the citizens (the one their propaganda promoted to get us to fight the war in the first place, see Boulting brothers public information films, the Berveridge Report, etcetera) has been under attack since Margaret “there is no such thing as society” Thatcher got into power. We will never reverse this in the UK.
ReplyDeleteIt only gets worse. Until recently the tacit agreement between the executive and the people was defined in purely economic terms. “Pay yer taxes and we’ll manage public services and leave you to think and say what you want.”.
In recent years the executive has begun a blatant assault on our freedoms.
Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Act 2021. Itself a response to the “Spy cops” scandal where the Security Services were caught trying to shut down peaceful protest they didn’t approve of.
The routine arrest of journalists under anti terror legislation. Condemned by the UN and others.
The proscription of Palestine Action and the mass arrests which have followed. Turning British police forces into an East German, Stasi tribute act.
“Pay yer taxes and we’ll manage public services. Meanwhile shut yer mouth. Once every four or five years we’ll let you tick a box on a ballot paper (containing options pre vetted by us).”.
We have no opportunity to fight this ‘till we’re independent. Even now our pathologically timid SNP sat on their hands while Palestine Action was outlawed as a terrorist organisation.
YouGov Westminster voting intention, field work 8 - 9 Nov, population sample 2,437.
ReplyDeleteHeadline: Labour 6% lead over Tories (+4).
Lab 27% (+1), Con 21% (-3), RefUK 20% (-1), LibDem 12% (+1), Green 10% (n/c).
Scottish sub-sample (212). Con 11%, Lab 21%, LibDem 3%, SNP 33%, RefUK 18%, Green 8%.
Electoral Calculus prediction model with Scottish finesse.
Headline: Labour 14 seat majority.
Lab 332, Con 116, LibDem 67, RefUK 64, SNP 43, Green 5, Plaid 4, other 1.
RefUK continue to slide into irrelevancy. SNP MPs slightly boosted by unrealistically low LibDem polling (which would make RefUK’s position look even worse when this is corrected for).
Greens will be regretting their Zionism is racism diversion. As is entirely predictable, people aren't impressed by student politics.
DeleteThe Greens were absolutely correct to have that policy.
DeleteMost of Scotland and most of the World agrees with them.
Zionism IS both blatantly racist and undoubtedly fascist.
The facially pierced, blue haired, neuro divergent benefit receiving, non binary, pally flag at the weekend world, maybe.
DeletePeople who work all week, pay their taxes and try to live a life with what's left simply couldn't give a toss. They might vote for the Greens on environmental issues but they'll soon lose interest when the tiresome far left tossers start their shouting.
Wrong.
DeleteThere is no way whatever that most decent Scots will just 'ignore' the Genocidal Israeli Slaughter of almost 30,000 innocent children in Gaza.
It is a Holocaust in real time, right in front of their eyes.
Those morons who still try to play it down are simply human garbage to be pitied as well as scorned.
6.02 The latest polls strongly suggest it is you are
DeleteWrong
The Greens vote has declined at the same rate as Reform's. All because the loony fringe were given a platform at the Green's conference.
Nope.
DeleteThe decline in the Green support almost mirrors the Burnham honeymoon effect rise in the Labour vote and that won't last much longer.
6.45
DeleteAre you really implying that the many many Scots who are appalled by the Gaza Genocide are all 'Loony Fringe'?
Are you that far gone?
No, of course not. They are normal people with busy lives and polling before the last WM election (when Israeli airstrikes were at their peak) stated that less than 4% of Scots named Gaza as one of their top three election issues.
DeleteAppalled? Yes. More concerned with issues closer to home? Also yes.
You can tell who the loony fringe are. They have a certain way of expressing themselves.
You are missing the point.
DeleteIrrespective of the percentage you quote on Gaza as an election issue, more Brits and indeed more Americans are now more sympathetic to Palestinians than to Israelis and a majority of younger voters accept it is a Genocide in Gaza.
So there is absolutely no evidence that the cohort who normally vote Green would have disapproved of their Zionist/Racism policy.
Reform on only 64 WM Seats?
ReplyDeleteBedlam in Bath 😂😂😂
We will get our independence when it works for the Fabian Society. Probably never.
ReplyDeleteAch, ATLS will get Scotland indy !
DeleteYour obvious disappointment is an absolute tragedy for our movement 😂😂😂
ReplyDelete1. We have at the moment, emphatically so.
ReplyDelete2. Divisive. for/against roughly the same. Leverage or charging rent for missiles a stronger reason.
3. Less divisive but there's a debate to be had about EFTA membership.
4. Full economic autonomy. The biggest positive reason.
5. Plenty of immigration into the Highlands and Islands going on if you don't mind English accents.
6. I'm not sure our sick man of Europe tag will evaporate overnight. We're a proudly dour people but indy would bring a spark, no doubt.
1.43 “a proudly dour people”? A false stereotype made up by racist England to keep us down and you actually are proud of it? Am Awa up the glen wae ma tarrrtan baffies oan tae grrrab a stag fur ma deenir then am goin tae get steamin so that a kin brrrave the foggy misty rain an snaw tae go ootside fur a pish och it’s a sick braw moarnin tae be a dour Scotch hing! Awa an bile yer heid!
Delete5.14 That's you triggered then.
DeleteIslamic Labour Party of Ireland. Check out their website. Very illuminating.
ReplyDeleteBetter off with the True Blue Brits of the Orange Order, DUP and TUV, eh???.
DeleteCharming lot of right wing sectarian neanderthal misogynist bigots the lot of them.
Anon 2.26. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 comedy gold. The Islamo commies fair illuminated the French capital.
ReplyDelete4.52. You’re right mate. Scots first.
ReplyDeleteCorrect.
DeleteALL Scots - black, white brown, yellow and from all backgrounds.
ALL are Scots and all are welcome here.
Anon 4/52. Wtf are you talking about.
ReplyDeleteThe far right have now had their erse's well and truly booted in Hungary, Serbia, Brazil and now the US.
ReplyDeleteAmerica has just elected its first Muslim Senator and first Black Governor.
In the UK, Reform and Restore are sinking back to the margins where they belong.
The far right are crumbling and their supporters are getting more and more frantic, trying to blame their rapid demise and virtually all society's ills on small powerless minorities.
But most decent folk can, thankfully, see right through their bigoted racist wee games and also see them for what they really are - racist trash which needs kicked back into the gutter.
Things are definitely looking up for the good guys!
I agree.
DeleteIt is frankly hilarious watching the tiny clique of far righters on here mumping their wee gums about 'forinners' and anyone who is non-white, as their little Trumpist/MAGA-Lite world implodes around them. 😂😂😂