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The date of Brexit was Fri, 31 Jan 2020, 11:00 pm, and Marra said:
ReplyDelete'... "a generation came of age with fewer rights than their parents” [because of Brexit, adding]: “From 2027, ..."'
Marra, the leader of Scottish Labour, has clearly defined a generation in politics as (less than) 7 years. So much for the Unionists trying to use an off-hand comment by Salmond. Even that expired 5 years ago.
A generation can’t possibly be less than 16 years, the age of consent.
DeleteI think it’s defined as between 20 and 30 years, if my memory serves me right.
3.03 is KC
DeleteUnionists will vary the definition of 'a generation' to suit their own ends.
DeleteIn relation to Brexshit and the Good Friday Agreement it could a decade or less, whereas they will stretch that definition to its maximum ( and beyond ) in respect of Indyref.
And subservient wee nodding donkeys like KC will happily and undemocratically go along with whatever Britisb Unionism says.
Such is the crawling kneepading of the 'Scottish' Unionist.
Whether 3:03 is kc or not, he/she is spot on.
Delete3:54, you are a fool!
3.03 and 4.23 are both KC
DeleteAccording to Marra, a "generation" is 7 years or less.
DeleteThat's all we need to know.
How about you clowns googling “ how long is a generation “
DeleteSadly we’re not even close to a generation since Alex made that unfortunate comment in 2014.
DeleteA generation is clearly defined as 20-30 years.
3.03, 4.23, 6.12 and 6.33 are all KC
DeleteNot in Ni.
DeleteI'm with Keith Brown on this, and in overall approach, John Swinney.
ReplyDeleteSturgeon attacked Labour at every opportunity, and arguably needed to back in 2014/15, as the SNP mopped up those for whom "I didn't leave Labour, Labour left me". But those days are gone now and in the past they should remain.
Keith Brown said: "It is good that Scottish Labour has finally accepted the obvious fact – that the UK ripping Scotland out of the EU against our will has been a disaster.
Having accepted that people are able to revisit the EU referendum decision taken 10 years ago, how can any Labour Party politician now seriously claim Scotland can’t revisit the independence referendum decision taken 12 years ago?"
(from The National) - https://archive.is/fDLV8
Keith Brown, the depute (not deputy) SNP Leader, is right to carefully consider what Marra actually said in his own words, and seek to use that to support the SNP position (and indeed, that of Indy supporter).
Meanwhile Swinney is open to the - strong - possibility of working together with Labour: 'FIRST Minister John Swinney has responded to the Scottish Labour leader, “accepting” that Scotland has the right to decide its own future saying, “we now need to turn that principle into an opportunity”. '
(from the National September) - https://archive.is/zZGgg
Indeed, Swinney has continually indicated his willingness to work together with any party (except Reform) for the benefit of Scotland. That is his strength, and Salmond used it back in 2007-2011 to, ultimately, get us our first referendum in 2014.
I totally support this, both for the now, and working towards Independence.
Spot on James.
ReplyDeleteMarra is merely doing what Sarwar occasionally did - trying to give the impression that the Scottish Branch of London Labour were somehow 'different' and 'more Pro-Scotland'' than its masters down south.
Both were/are, of course, lying through their staunch unionist teeth and have routinely fallen back into line when told to do so by their London Controllers.
It is a ploy which 'Scottish' Labour have tried before and will undoubtedly keep trying in the future.
The only real surprise is that any Independence supporter worth the name still gives credence to this unadulterated hogwash and cannot see it for what it is.......pure Labour spin thought up by London and based on secret Indy Polls which frighten them a good bit.
The sheer gullibility of some on our side in this regard is astounding.
Scottish Labour AND the Scottish Conservatives have at times been close to breaking with Westminster and forming genuine Scottish Parties. Which has to be good for Scotland whatever your politics.
DeleteI guess the main problem is funding, which is why the likes of the Easdales donating to Labour - on the basis they "become more Scottish" - was such welcome news. I think the Scottish Conservatives would find new funding sources if they made the breakaway.
Try to see things outside the prism of "SNP good, unionist (branch) party bad". It's not all about legs!
That's utter rubbish. Neither the Tories nor Labour ever came close to breaking away. Try to see the things outside the prism of smug gibberish. It's not all about kangaroos!
Delete4.51
DeleteAbsolute and utter garbage.
Neither 'Scottish' Unionist Party has ever been remotely 'close to breaking away' from their London Controllers.
Stop spouting such utter drivel.
And, as my memory goes, I seem to recall that it was you who also ran a series of posts a while ago on here, stating the we should not be so hard on and not criticise so much the Reform UK Party in Scotland and its leader Offord.
We should instead try to 'understand' them and their supporters more.
Well, time has now shown what any sensible Scot, let alone any sensible Indy supporter, knew all along - Reform UK are racist fascist trash.
You strike me as nothing more than an appeaser of unionism falsely wearing an independence overcoat, mate.
"And, as my memory goes ..."
DeleteGone, I fear. You're talking dribble.
No, I am talking fact.
DeleteIn fact I now intend to do some back-trawling to find those posts and fling them right in your face.
That's a bit difficult, and this is a forum not "face to face". Try to find your marbles while you're at it.
DeleteBut don't invent posts, provide a link. You can right click on the date and time of a posting, and "copy link" in firefox, or similar. Like so:
https://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2026/11/michael-marras-sham-brexit-announcement.html?showComment=1794505500917#c414751617128305781
Hope that helps!
Skier at 5.45.
DeleteNo, not Skier. I know that guy's style very well from as far back as the Netweather politics forums over a decade ago.
DeleteWho is this Marra person?
ReplyDeleteBrother of the woman who used to be the next Scottish Labour leader.
DeleteI suppose she's either in the House of Lords (Labour heaven) or on a promise.
DeleteClearly it’s just a carrot, vote for Labour and you could get back into Europe, just like vote for SNP and you might get independence. The advantage that the Labour carrot has is that Labour could have the power to reverse Brexit. Sadly SNP don’t have any power to provide independence and don’t seem to have a plan to obtain it.
ReplyDeleteGarbage.
DeleteAway back to Wings, pal.
Revstu at 5.28.
DeleteWe should get Ashton Kushner, PJ Vance and Trump's daughter in law to do the negotiations
Delete'SFA is in active discussions aimed at a biannual friendly match being held in Boston'
ReplyDeleteBrilliant news and a complete testament to our wonderful Tartan Army who made so many folk so happy over there and made so many friends as well.
Boston now wants to cement and carry forward their friendship with Scotland in a very tangible and long-lasting manner.
No wonder everywhere loves us Scots!
Great news right enough.
DeleteThe soft power generated by our superb football fans pays tangible benefits in many many countries worldwide.
Terrific to see the beautiful city of Boston confirm just how much our fans charmed their citizens!
6.56pm England loves us as well as we give them free electricity. One of the benefits of Better Together for England - more and more wind farms over Scotland and Scottish waters feeding electricity to England. Some people still say Scotland isnae a colony. No wonder broadcasting and energy is reserved to Westminster.
DeleteWe pay a fortune for our energy and it is sent down south free of charge.
Very true.
DeleteEngland loves and despises Scotland in equal measure.
Loves us because of the vast natural resources it can leech off us, but despises, demeans, patronises and condescends us because that is what it has always done since the completely undemocratic sham of a 'union' was signed up to by a handful of idiot nobles more interested in money than their own country.
At that will never change until the sham union is dead and buried.
The whole idea of independence is complete and utter lunacy, and we must never ever allow it to happen.
ReplyDeleteLol.
DeleteClick bait 😂😂😂
No need to worry about it happening while the current SNP government is in power.
DeleteEven after a nuclear attack that left London in ruins and a handful of local councillors in charge of UK affairs from a bunker in Bishop's Stortford, John Swinney would still be too timid to get Scotland it's independence.
Hey Olly,
DeleteWee Stewie is missing his shower-partner tonight.
If you hurry you can catch the last bus south.
You know you want to.
7.47 is not confused. Definitely not.
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