Until today, when he suddenly left the party after an angry tirade, Allan Petrie was the designated Nominating Officer of the "Alliance to Liberate Scotland". (Indeed he technically still is, because any change takes time to go through.) That is one of the three key party officer positions officially registered with the Electoral Commission, and is the same one that in Alba was held by Chris McEleny, including for several months after his expulsion.
And yet just two days ago, Petrie - who I have never met and have barely interacted with online - was bombarding me with tweets of the following ilk:
"Oh dear wee jeemie I see your research skills haven't improved much possibly because you don't get out of your bedroom much, tell us why you are in a party responsible for putting rapists in female prisons wee man"
Leaving aside the obvious immaturity and childishness of his tweets, does that look to you like someone in a leadership position within a party that should be taken seriously - not only one that can win seats but that in fact will lead Scotland to independence? However preposterous that boast may sound, it's what Liberate Scotland claim to believe about themselves and certainly want other people to believe about them. Even if in their heart of hearts they know it's not true, they'd presumably at least want to project an image of seriousness and credibility that would look congruous with their mission statement, and you really do have to wonder whether they have the self-awareness to understand just how far short of it they're falling. Alba was a complete and utter shambles, and yet anyone who moves from Alba to Liberate will quickly realise they've just suffered a massive downgrade.
So what triggered Petrie so much that he forgot he was supposed to be a leading figure within a "national liberation movement", and then instantly reduced him to chucking puerile insults at me like a random drunk bloke in a pub? It was simply because I had pointed out in a blogpost that his party is in an electoral pact with a far-right party called Sovereignty, and that as yet nobody has a credible answer as to why that's OK. Liberate clearly have an agreed position that if anyone asks them about Sovereignty's extremist policies, they will refuse to answer substantively and will just trot out vacuous slogans like "independence nothing else nothing less". The most you'll get out of them is an explanation that independence is the only thing that matters for now and that discussion of the merits and demerits of all other policies, including Sovereignty's extremist ones, will have to wait until after independence. In other words, an independent Scotland established by Liberate might be a fascist ethnostate, but there again it might not be, we'll just have to wait and see, and what an exciting magical mystery tour that will be. Yup, that sounds like a totally credible position, one that will be easily defensible in the heat of an election campaign.
But rather deliciously, Petrie's stated reason for flouncing out of Liberate today exposes the whole holding position of "independence nothing else, no other policies matter" as having always been a complete sham anyway. He can't accept the fact that Craig Murray, who does not share his gender critical views, has been newly taken on as a Liberate parliamentary candidate. It crosses a red line for him, apparently, even though the trans issue has got nothing to do with independence, the one and only thing that is supposed to matter. Now I hold gender critical views too, and I don't doubt that it's an important issue, but I don't think it's any more important than opposing Sovereignty's policies on banning all economic migration, or on having an ethnically-based Scottish citizenship, or on withdrawing from the European Convention on Human Rights. If I and others are not allowed to regard fascist policies as a red line or to even ask about them, it's hard to see how Petrie can justify getting a special opt-out from the general "independence nothing else" principle that allows him to have a red line for his own personal hobby horse.
My suspicion is that Petrie and the others have been caught in their own bubble for so long that they can't even see the contradiction. The independence issue and the gender issue have become weirdly fused inside their heads and they've literally forgotten that the two things are actually separate.
LOL. I did predict a civil war, but even I thought it might take a bit longer than two days. https://t.co/Whyp5Z1tst
— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) March 12, 2026
It’s not a laughing matter James - it’s actually quite tragic! As long as self serving grifting charlatans put their interests first Scotland will never achieve independence - far too many livelihoods rely on the “independence industry” for it to ever be achieved.
— Heather McLean (@HeatherMc1960) March 12, 2026
I'm afraid after Allan's childish antics two days ago (openly cheerleaded by you it has to be said) I'll have to strongly disagree with you here, Heather: it's absolutely bloody hilarious. Petrie's position is literally "I can excuse fascism but I draw the line at sharing a...
— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) March 12, 2026
...party with someone who disagrees with my views on gender recognition certificates". He's literally done the meme. pic.twitter.com/arIyP6Wtmq
— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) March 12, 2026
Meanwhile, as expected, Tommy Sheridan and his wife Gail were today also unveiled as defectors to (and candidates for) Liberate. As I pointed out in my blogpost the other day, that will trigger a civil war within the party, because even those who don't immediately follow Petrie out of the door will soon find themselves in a battle for control with Sheridan, who always seeks to be the dominant force in any party or political project he is part of. And although I don't believe in the 'horseshoe' theory of politics (that the further you go to the left, the closer you get to the far-right), Sheridan the Trotskyist is not exactly doing much to dispel it by going into alliance with Sovereignty without a second thought.
A week or two ago, our old friend Stew said as a 'joke' that he was almost tempted to endorse the SNP for the Holyrood election after all, because if they won an overall majority that would put John Swinney on the spot and require him to try to deliver the independence referendum that he has promised would follow in those circumstances. Like a lot of Stew's intended jokes, that's a lot more significant and revealing than he realised when he said it, because the logic is actually watertight. Even if you genuinely believe that there is only a 10% chance of Swinney doing what he's promised, the rational thing to do is vote SNP and at least give that 10% chance an opportunity to play out.
After all, what brilliant alternative independence strategy would you be giving up by doing that? None. If you vote Liberate, you'll be voting for a party that has not only become an embarrassing circus, but that will probably get only 0.1% or 0.2% of the list vote. That's a complete and utter waste of time that cannot possibly achieve anything. Alex Salmond only got 1.5% of the vote with Alba, and he had the sort of charisma and strategic nous that Barrhead Boy can only dream of. The only charismatic potential leader Liberate have got in its ranks is Sheridan himself, but if he takes over it will become the Tommy Sheridan Party, ie. Solidarity Mark II, and we all remember how Solidarity Mark I fared in repeated Holyrood elections.
Give independence a chance. Vote for an independence party that the general public will actually vote for. And yes, that means the SNP, or if there's some particular reason why you can't bring yourself to vote for them, the Greens are also a pro-indy party that will win seats. No other pro-indy party will even get close.
Far right? Farage is far right. Maga is far right. Are you seriously smearing fellow independence activists with British tropes? I doubt anyone inside the Swinney version of the SNP is in any way "to the left" in politics.
— Inde-Car Gordon Ross (@PartickDriver) March 10, 2026
Apologies, Gordon, I didn't see your tweet until now. Yes, I absolutely am describing Sovereignty, one of the key components of the "Liberate Scotland" alliance as far-right, because that is what they are. Read their 2024 manifesto - it speaks for itself. Farage is to their left.
— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) March 12, 2026
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Hells bells, how many fringe parties are there?m
ReplyDeleteI think they're all gathering nuts in May.
ReplyDeleteThe UK head of state must be a practising Anglican Protestant - Catholics and Presbyterians etc are not acceptable. Must be Windsor DNA too. So genetic and religious discrimination. MPs and MSPs all swear fealty to this - for the money.
ReplyDeleteCitizens of Scotland must be able to trace all their origins back to the first married couple of Scottish Homo erectus, and to be able to prove this with officially stamped paper Birth Certificates for both and only both of these nuclear family members.
DeleteHe sounds just like IFSy.
ReplyDeleteAnon at 11.57pm - so you are the sort of lowlife that is happy to see rapists put in women’s prison full stop. Or are you the type of lowlife that thinks it’s ok if the SNP are doing it but not if it is a Britnat party?
DeleteThe hat fits IFSy. You need to wear it. Still fantasising about N S? Why are you so preoccupied with rapists? It’s not healthy. Seek help.
DeleteAnon disgusting troll at 3.49pm you can keep your manky hat. I note that you refused to answer the question. So that makes you not only a lowlife ( already well established ) but a lowlife that is happy to put rapists in women’s jails.
Delete0.1% of the vote?
ReplyDelete0.01% more like it!
1 vote most likely after the inevitable splits.
DeleteIndy car has put as much serious thought into who he is backing as he does with everything else. So not very much.
ReplyDeleteThese tin soldiers in dark rooms are part of the reason this is all so bloody hard.
And so few of them possess any real political or campaigning acumen. They exist by surrounding themselves with nodding heads and groupthink.
And as James here says, for all the shoutiness, none of them have any semblance of a plan that will work...
I have dream LOL my Martin Luther King moment....
Instead of vague and often dishonest calls for unity in the independence movement. Why don't we show some real unity by backing the only plan there is, even if it's a difficult one. The only way to secede (notice I don't use the term self determination) is with the participation of Westminster, there is IMHO no way around that, especially with the small majority we have.
Virtually all those other countries left the parent ship like this. Majority support for indy, negotiations with Westminster, final acceptance from Westminster, a Legal bill allowing for secession. Then international recognition followed on the back of that. I've not looked at every single departure but that seems to be a general rule of thumb. International Diplomatic recognition followed on from Westminster's legal acceptance.
If we could all get behind that and show unity of purpose and across the board acceptance of this is the way we need to go. I believe we could up the numbers and put Westminster under pressure to furnish us with a section 30, THE official document for secession, one others in the international community cannot easily ignore..
Aye I have a dream, but there is just too much division and differing, though false opinions. Too many castles in the sky that say, there will be a great new idea along shortly...Which of course never happens.
And of course in some quarters to admit the obvious, undermines the reason for their existance, their coveted limelight, their reason to hate the SNP and those who support that party. In short they lose their celeb status and vehicles for their egos to shine. For these groups their main traction is to point a finger at the SNP saying they are not persuing indy, as the gallery claps and shouts foul. It's almost unimaginable they would put that to one side for the greater good, so yeah, I have a dream...
Anon at 9.17am - your post (dream) is pompous tiresome tripe.
DeleteOne example - you say: - “ a section 30, THE official document for secession “ a section 30 is just a transfer of the power from Westminster to Holyrood to hold an independence referendum. It is NOT an official or legal document for secession. You have got the most fundamental basic wrong.
Another example - you say: - “ I believe we could up the numbers and put Westminster under pressure to furnish us with a sec 30” . Delusional naive nonsense. As if Westminster will agree a section 30 request when they will be guaranteed to lose a referendum.
Another example you say: - “ Virtually, all other countries left the parent ship like this” your description of Westminster as the parent ship demonstrates a level of subservience that any house jock would be proud of. Your use of the word secession also gives that impression as it implies the nation of Scotland is a region.
Try telling us the nations you investigated that Westminster just out of the goodness of their heart gave them a referendum on independence. Also try telling us those nations who won their independence through armed struggle or civil disobedience. Try telling us those nations that Westminster, partitioned or insisted on keeping military bases or insisted on keeping their English monarch as Head of State
The rest of your post is just criticising other people for having no plan but you do not propose any plan either.
You sure you ain’t KC.
KC? Think the unionist tosser is long gone.
DeleteEr no, he most certainly is not gone. He attempts to post 8-12 times per day, I just don't let the comments through. He still trots out all the old classics, "Nessie", etc.
DeleteWell done James. While I am generally all for free speech KC with his repetitive Nessie type rubbish and his penchant for impersonating independence supporters deserves to be banished.
DeleteThe Minister of State at the Department of Justice, Sarah Sackman, is behind the banning of the al-Quds march for Palestine this coming Sunday.
ReplyDeleteSackman, the MP for Finchley & Golders Green, first elected 2024, literally worked as a clerk in the Supreme Court of Israel. We have intelligence assets for a foreign country parachuted into Westminster seats by an infiltrated Labour Party, and elevated into Ministerial positions, making outrageously partisan policy.
Yet more proof that the British state is a Spookocracy.
More recently, she stood up in favour of a mosque being opened in Jewville, London. But perhaps you hate Muslims, as well. There is a great big synagogue in Edinburgh, and I am sure you can find the address in the internet should you care to go at it with a tin of paint and a facemask (no doubt all those Scots that go there work for the Isaraeli government, at least according to you).
DeleteAll true. Also true is that the SNP has been infiltrated by blue haired, radical trans activists who have ditched any meaningful pursuit of independence to concentrate on toilet based ideology.
DeleteShe got £30,000 in donations from the pro israeli lobby. I pointed this out on the Guardian btl and it was deleted. It’s corruption, pure and simple, but this lot in Westminster made it lawful. Unbelievable.
Deleteanon 1225 - you spend a fair bit of time worrying and mulling over toilet seats and people with blue hair. There is thick and being thicko with prejudice. Guess who you are.
Delete3.54pm there are trolls and truly obnoxious trolls. Guess who you are.
DeleteAch there's always Wings over Scotland!
Delete712- anon. Whoa- thought that up all by yourself? Away and get a blue rinse
DeleteProbably worked alongside one of Tony Blairs sons who got a part time job in the State of Israel too. Sounds familiar.
ReplyDeleteSome Fringe parties have a penchant for aprons, and other regalia.
ReplyDelete"Greens slate SNP for 'dropping' key Bute House Agreement policy"
ReplyDeleteI know the Greens are a bit other-worldly, but surely even they realise the "wasteful" BHA was rightly kicked into touch long ago by a previous FM!
Just found out today what the worst Scottish Greens policy foisted upon us is - free bus travel for weans. Happened to travel by bus past a busy secondary at the the start of their lunchtime - cue literally 30 odd teenagers boarding the bus with tens more banging the door trying to get in and the poor bus driver getting dog’s abuse from every angle. Then they all piled out two stops later…
DeleteHow dare our school kids use the free bus passes that the SNP government gave them. You are Anass and I claim my prize!!!
DeleteJames Naughtie on BBC Radio 4 on the World at One today talking about the SNP states categorically that at the end of his stint that " they are losing support to Reform." Is this a lie?
ReplyDeleteWhen I first began voting SNP, most of my friends were Labour supporters. The trite attack line they used at the time was “Tartan Tories”. It was something they could at least attempt to getaway with before Labour embraced de-industrialisation, and everything that went with that in the mid 80s.
ReplyDeleteIn truth, there were always some “Tartan Tories” in the SNP, and that was no bad thing. The independence movement should be a big tent. Those who love the architecture of the British state, but object only to its geographical extent should be welcome comrades. We can reach a democratically determined constitutional arrangement after we win our sovereignty.
What is depressing is the defenders of the British state who come on these btl pages to launch lazy, tribal, evidence free, ad hominem attacks. Unlike some, I don’t seek to shut down debate or de-platform individuals. I would ask merely that those who wish to defend the corrupt, hereditary hierarchy of the British state, use actual evidence based rhetoric.
"Everything you need to know about the 2026 SNP conference"
ReplyDelete"The main conference will restart at 2pm with a session on the SNP manifesto."
With this being the last day of the 6 nations, Scotland in with a great chance, not one single rugby supporter will be there or even remotely interested. What clown scheduled this for tomorrow!
Whaaat!!! Not one Tory rugby supporter will be at a Scottish Independence party conference because they are too busy singing along with the king of England’s sister? How very dare they!!!
DeleteI can see several reasons why some people might be unhappy with Mr Murray being chosen as a Liberate candidate.
ReplyDeleteIf I recall correctly, Craig Murray argued he had no issues with biological men, who self-id as women, using women's changing rooms, which upset quite a few pro-independence people.
Also, to assist the late Alex Salmond with Mr Salmond's plans to rig the Alba NEC elections in 2023, Mr Murray did not take up his Alba NEC seat.
Furthermore, ( while still a member of Alba, he went to stand as a candidate with George Galloway's (unionist) Workers Party of Britain and more recently, Jeremy Corbyn's Your Party.
What have people's preferences on gender got to do with Scottish independence? absolutely nothing, it's the Brit supporting way of changing the narrative away from independence inventing and personalizing a hate zone as their basis of campaigning
ReplyDeleteI really do wish folk would not fall for this crap, it's infantile
Offord has announced Reform will be unveiling 73 candidates on Thursday, potentially ramming a train through unionist tactical voting in the constituencies.
ReplyDeleteThe chaos evident in some of this thread shows where the 'lace edged doilies' of SNP leadership 'respectability' have taken us.
ReplyDeleteContrast this with the high days of the 2013 - '14 campaign. Unfortunately, even in its conformist, careerist phase the SNP has managed to hold onto the largest chunk of pro independence voters. Being anywhere else than in that party fighting for a self determination strategy independent of constraints imposed by the British state is the only realistic and responsible place to be.
Throwing Beano level abuse at each other does nothing. Talk to SNP members about the nature of the British state and the dead end confornmity of the Swinney troughers.