Wednesday, May 28, 2025

Barrhead Boy's tone-deaf meltdown puts it beyond all doubt: "Liberate Scotland" is not a credible electoral proposition, and it does not have credible leadership

I have some past history with Roddy MacLeod, aka "Barrhead Boy" (among other things, we were on the Alba NEC together for a year), so I know only too well that he can be a volatile character.  But even so, his meltdown in response to my blogpost of yesterday is bizarre, and it does neither him nor his new electoral alliance any favours.  I now feel somewhat liberated to say out loud what I previously said only in private - that while I have very great respect for individual Liberate Scotland candidates such as Eva Comrie and Sean Davis, I do think they've backed the wrong horse here.  

In spite of the mistaken impression some people might get from MacLeod's rant, my blogpost was not in fact a full-on attack on Liberate Scotland - it simply brought to people's attention that one of the three component parts of the alliance, namely Sovereignty, has a number of extremist right-wing policies, and that one of those policies in particular (withdrawal from the European Convention on Human Rights) would have prevented me from voting for Liberate even if I wasn't a current SNP member.  If MacLeod can't even cope with seeing a considered comment like that without accusing me of being some sort of traitor to Scotland, which is essentially what he's done, then he's plainly a zealot who will not be able to work constructively with the vast bulk of the independence movement, let alone reach out to ordinary voters.  People have been saying to me in private for weeks that with MacLeod in charge, Liberate will just be Alba Mark II, because it'll be yet another tinpot dictatorship (albeit an even less subtle one, because MacLeod isn't as good at concealing his temper from the public gaze).

I'll respond to his specific points, such as they are - 

"Earlier today an SNP blogger decided to attack Liberate Scotland and our attempts at unifying the Yes movement."

No I did not do that.  It wouldn't have been physically possible for me to do that, because MacLeod and Liberate are not trying to unify the Yes movement.  They are instead trying to divide the Yes movement further.  They have already announced their intention to stand constituency candidates directly against the SNP next May, which is bound to increase the chances of unionist parties gaining constituency seats, and thus reduce the chances of the pro-independence majority at Holyrood being saved.  Not even Alba are being as irresponsible and destructive as that.  Kenny MacAskill has sensibly announced that Alba will be sitting out the constituency ballot and only standing on the list.

"This Thursday we might indeed see the backlash against the SNP if independence supporters continue to boycott the ballot box by staying at home."

I presume that's a reference to next Thursday, not this Thursday, because the Hamilton by-election is next week.  If there is indeed a backlash against the SNP next week and people who would normally vote SNP stay at home, how does McLeod think it would help to have a small pro-indy party trying to persuade them to vote against the SNP instead?  In a first-past-the-post constituency election, that cannot possibly help the pro-independence cause in any way.  Literally the only way to stop Reform UK next Thursday is to vote SNP.  Will MacLeod, the self-styled "unifier", urge independence supporters in Hamilton to do that?  If not, why not?

"This site and TASP has long advocated for our movement to unite."

No, it hasn't.  It's done the opposite. It has constantly tried to erect an impenetrable Berlin Wall between the SNP and other independence supporters.

"Be assured the Union fears Scottish unity more than they fear the SNP."

That's certainly true.  And doubtless the most committed unionists will be wishing MacLeod well in his efforts to split the Yes vote.

"Unlike our detractors we say to them you are welcome to join our unity cause. We will not exclude any independence supporting party, organisation or individual."

Which is a mealy-mouthed, self-righteous way of doubling down on the rash decision to invite what is essentially a far-right party into his alliance.  Let's be clear: Sovereignty are not making some kind of trivial or fringe contribution to Liberate - they are one of only three component parts of the alliance, and a very substantial proportion of Liberate candidates will therefore be people who want to ban *all* economic migration, restrict Scottish citizenship on the basis of some sort of undefined ethnicity test, withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights, discriminate against those in same-sex relationships, and roll back free healthcare and the welfare state.

That is not the sort of Scotland I am remotely interested in building.  More importantly, it is not the kind of prospectus that will help build a majority for independence - in fact it could potentially set the cause back decades if the public starts to take it seriously.  If MacLeod is going to get his alliance to work, he needs to have calm, reasoned, compelling answers to the legitimate questions that are going to be asked by many, many people who have concerns about his embrace of Sovereignty.  If he is incapable of responding without lashing out and accusing the people asking the questions of being traitors or saboteurs, then he simply isn't fit to be in a position of political leadership, and he should either abandon the whole endeavour or hand over to a less hotheaded colleague.  There are actually one or two sensible people around him, and I'd be very surprised if they haven't at least warned him to exercise considerably more caution in his dealings with Sovereignty.  I don't think he's listening to anything but the sound of his own voice at the moment, and I doubt if he ever will.

"Let’s not forget, during the 2014 referendum, Better Together was a coalition made up of the Tories, Labour, the Lib Dems and yes, even UKIP, the BNP, and Britain First"

Don't be so bloody ridiculous, Roddy.  The BNP and Britain First were not part of the official Better Together campaign.  And let me tell you this: if Labour or the Tories had ever been batsh*t crazy enough to enter into a formal electoral pact with the BNP, as MacLeod is doing with Sovereignty, even our biased Scottish media would have absolutely crucified them for it, and rightly so.

"Wouldn’t it be better, after independence, to enshrine a written constitution, a document rooted in Scottish values and democratic principles, that guarantees human rights in law, beyond the reach of political whims or Westminster meddling?"

I must say I don't see how any of that would be inconsistent with giving a basic pre-independence guarantee that Scotland will be (like every other European country apart from Russia and Belarus) a party to the European Convention on Human Rights, which is precisely what MacLeod is setting his face against by doubling down on his alliance with Sovereignty.  His decision will quite reasonably be interpreted as meaning that, if he and his alliance are calling the shots, human rights are at risk of being downgraded after independence.

"Debating individual policy positions now is putting the cart before the horse. Let’s get the powers first. Let’s win our independence."

When people say that we should leave individual policies until after independence, they're generally talking about practical bread and butter policies, not about fundamental values such as human rights and democracy.  Is MacLeod really saying that every single fundamental value will be up for grabs after independence, and nothing at all can be assured or promised in advance?  Is he really saying "we might be a Christian theocracy, we might be a liberal democracy, who knows, let's decide later"?  It's a ludicrous line of argument, and no way to go about winning independence.

MacLeod's blogpost is a catastrophically ill-judged and tone-deaf response from the de facto leader of an alliance that is going absolutely nowhere unless and until it has a fundamental rethink.  What I've just said will be an unpalatable message for some, but anyone with an ounce of political nous knows that it's true.

31 comments:

  1. Macleod’s view of the world is the narrow one reserved for zealots and I must say not a very clever one.

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  2. If we're being honest, what we know about Roddy MacLeod suggests that he would be entirely comfortable with most of Sovereignty's positions, and that's why he's comfortable having Sovereignty on board. That's also why he's incapable of empathizing with those who think those policies are beyond the pale. To him, deciding whether to leave the ECHR is like deciding what colour to paint the roof. He can't fathom why people would get so worked up about it.

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  3. Sovereignty's website looks very professional considering they are a tiny party. If nothing else, the Liberate Scotland concept has drawn attention to it's constituent member parties.

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    1. Yes, it is a very professional site, much more professional than Independence for Scotland's site, although the internal navigation very professionally makes it extremely difficult to locate their 2024 manifesto, which is where most of the extreme policies are to be found!

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    2. It wouldn't surprise me if Sovereignty was funded by shadowy right wing figures a la 55 Tufton Street.

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  4. The BTL interaction between Peter A Bell and Barrhead Boy is very funny and revealing. Bell is scathing about Liberate Scotland, more so than James was yesterday, and yet instead of reacting angrily as he did with James, Barrhead Boy launches into a long, lovestruck "Peter A Bell is the most wonderful of men" speech. It's one of those "he's not going to shag you, mate" moments. He's desperate for Bell's party to join Liberate Scotland, and is prepared to humiliate himself to get that. But I don't think he will get it, because Bell marches only to his own tune.

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    1. Exactly, Bell won’t play ball. Why should he? “Liberate” will go down the pan at a rate of knots, it has no future. Bell may not have one either, but no need to deface his own brand by getting in with that lot too.

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    2. Bell is going to liberate Scotland by himself.

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  5. Sovereignty looks like a soapbox party.

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  6. Fortunately for all of us, the voters are never even going to hear about Liberate until they've pencil in hand at the polling station, looking for the parties they can recognise. 1% will be a very handsome ambition indeed for them.

    Alba was the only chance, back at launch in 2021, with Salmond at the head and the media's attention. Love him or loathe him, most folk certainly knew Alba was running in that election and that it was Eck's alternative to the indy-free SNP.

    And it failed, miserably.

    The polls certainly align with the public mood as I know it. Everyone's scunnered. Yessers are as done with political engagement as Remainer Nos. There's a miserable cloud over all of us, like a thunderstorm about to come. We're all getting drenched and we know it.

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    1. As depressing as that sounds it's probably true. The most important thing is that despite all the upheaval, scandal, mismanagement and negative headlines, 60+ SNP constituency MSPs will get to keep their salaries and pensions.

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  7. The policy aboot haundin the schuils and welfare ower tae the Kirk is a richt lauch. Pittin aside whether that wad be desirable, the Kirk is mergin congregations and sellin aff its kirks and manses aw ower the kintra. It can barely afford tae sustain itsel onie mair, nae danger is it able tae tak ower the essential functions o the state as weill.

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  8. (withdrawal from the European Convention on Human Rights) would have prevented me from voting. Can you explain why.

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    1. The ECHR has been the bedrock of human rights protection in western Europe since the 1950s, and in eastern Europe since the fall of communism. For any democratic European country to seek to be outside the ECHR is extremely unusual. It's generally only suggested by politicians who want to weaken human rights protections in some way. For example, Nigel Farage wants to weaken protections for migrants and asylum seekers.

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  9. Their political bubble is quite small compared to the bigger bubble that all the other parties have. Some have moved on from the burst bubbles they joined up to. They might attract the tiny amount of voters that vote for the fringe candidates or spoil their ballots. Lost deposits will be the norm for them.

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  10. From Barrhead Boy: "an SNP blogger"

    THAT on its own destroys his credibility - you're not an "SNP blogger", you're a blogger who happens to be member of the SNP.

    He's trying to deceive his readers into thinking it's an official SNP line.

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    1. Yes - but his content and Prism videos are all a we must destroy the SNP. Toxic stuff and sometimes shocking. Only remotely interesting thing was a recent interview he did with Alan Bisset which was very informative to hear Alan Bisset's thoughts as he was so influential during the 2014 campaign and is a level headed person.

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    2. Fact of the matter is McLeod is a bitter wee bampot.

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  11. Liberate Barcelona (and Bath) !

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  12. Sovereignty, never heard of them to be honest, they seem to be a amalgamation of the Scottish Family Party and Alba. With microscopic electoral prospects.

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  13. Bawheid Boy attempting to unify the Yes Movement.
    Aye, sure ye are Roddy

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  14. https://www.thenational.scot/news/25199636.bbc-panned-not-including-candidates-hamilton-by-election-debate/

    How come that nameless Reform guy is sitting in two places at once?

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  15. Seeing wee Dougie Ross being chucked out of the chamber was a joy to behold! He couldn't believe it and had to be told twice. Should have happened years ago, of course, but better late than never.

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    1. LOL,
      Little doubt what he said about the Presiding Officer was correct though.

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  16. " Red card for Ross."

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  17. The purpose of Holyrood MSPs is to administer England's imperial power in a Muppet parliament. So, James, can you define what you mean by "pro-independent" MSPs?

    My definition of pro-independence is based on the ethos that Scots are sovereign, not the King of England / head of UK state. So Scots have the sovereign and human right of self-determination (and also belief that right should be exercised to make Scotland an independent state.)

    However, all sitting MSPs have sworn fealty to the Crown of England. They accept and uphold the principle of sovereignty of the (Crown of England) exercised by (England's) Westminster Parliament. They adhere to the imperial law that Scotland's self-determination is subject to permission from Westminster MPs, Lords and English UK head of state. Tell me what is pro-independence about that?

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    1. "So, James, can you define what you mean by "pro-independent" MSPs?"

      Yes, I think the simplest way of defining pro-independence MSPs is to look at how they would vote in an independence referendum. So, for example, if Stew was an MSP, I wouldn't define him as a pro-independence MSP because by his own admission he would abstain in an independence referendum. Whereas I'm reasonably confident that all SNP and Greens MSPs would vote Yes.

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    2. Another Alba type who wants the Scottish Parliament shut down.

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    3. Wrong. I want a Scottish parliament where MSPs are required to take an oath (or affirmation) that Scots are sovereign so MSPs must respect and uphold the sovereign rights of Scotland's people which includes the right of self-determination.

      My personal decision, which people may or may not agree with, is that I won't vote for any MSP candidates who intend to swear fealty to the UK head of state - even if they claim they would support the idea of Scottish independence.

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  18. greens have made it clear they are only for the "right kind" of independence and given they would class the average opinions of the normal Scot as "transphobic, racist ... etc" then, in practice, not

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    1. Ach, there's always Sovereignty!

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