Apartheid in modern Israel / Palestine is often compared to apartheid in South Africa, so are the parallels exact enough to justify a similar exception that should see Israel cast out of international sport and the Eurovision Song Contest? The case can be argued either way. The similarities are obvious enough - Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are denied their own state, self-government is confined to small, non-contiguous Bantustan-like parcels of land that are designed to ensure a real sovereign state remains non-viable, and yet Palestinians in those territories are denied citizenship and voting rights in the only state that does exist. But there is one key difference with apartheid-era South Africa, which is that there are substantial numbers of Palestinians in Israel proper who do have citizenship and voting rights and who are allowed to mingle with the Jewish population, and can represent Israel at sporting events, etc. The tactic is thus not to keep Palestinians out of Israeli life altogether, but to arbitrarily restrict the numbers who are granted rights so that they cannot ever become a 'problem'.
Personally I think Israel should be suspended from this year's Eurovision - if Russia's actions last year warranted suspension, it's hard to see how Israel's actions over recent months fall short of the same threshold. But if that actually happened, the contest would probably be in jeopardy because Germany would walk out and take its money away. As the ICJ case demonstrated, Germany has this weird notion that it has the exclusive right to adjudicate upon what constitutes a genocide for the very reason that it was the perpetrator of the worst one in global history.
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James, my initial reaction without reading your article is definately yes re Eurovision I know it's a statement of the obvious but Israel is not in Europe. So why are they in the Eurovision. The answer is that other countries in other continents, quite rightly, do not want anything to do with them.
ReplyDeleteI'll let you know if my view changes after reading your article. I know you are keen on the Eurovision but I have no interest in it so my answer is determined by non competition factors.
I also think they should be banned from international sport because competing with representatives of a nation who are carrying out ethnic cleansing and murdering children in their thousands is just unacceptable for any decent person to accept. I felt that way when Scotland played them in the Euro football. Israel us not in Europe.
Again I'll let you know if my view changes after reading your article.
"So why are they in the Eurovision. The answer is that other countries in other continents, quite rightly, do not want anything to do with them."
DeleteWell no, that's not the reason. Eligibility for Eurovision depends solely on membership of the European Broadcasting Union, which for reasons lost in the mists of time extends beyond Europe to large stretches of the Middle East and North Africa. For that reason Morocco competed in Eurovision once, and Lebanon also entered once and selected a song (a really lovely old school French language ballad), but had to withdraw because Lebanese law prevented then from broadcasting the Israeli entry, which would have broken the contest's rules.
Now that I have read your article I will say my view has not changed. You have to draw a line somewhere in terms of barbarity and how brutal the apartheid and colonialism is. Israel is well over my line. Israel arrests and kills Palestinians all the time in the West Bank. The Palestinians in the West Bank have no access to a justice system - they live under military law which basically means the people arresting and killing them then pronounce the captives guilty. Some don't even get to have military trials - too many - so like mass internment in N. Ireland Israel has its own form called Administrative Detention where they just arrest anyone and keep them locked up.
DeleteIsrael has two layers of apartheid. Palestinians who are second class Israeli citizens without the same rights as Jewish Israeli citizens and the others - and that's how they are portrayed - they are treated as sub human by the Israeli government - in Gaza and the West Bank. The Palestinians who are deemed second class Israelis live under the constant fear that they will be arbitrarily relegated down to the status of the other Palestinians if they are seen as a problem. Israel has divided and conquered the Palestinians. Now they want to get rid of a lot of them by whatever method they can get away with.
It is nothing but gaslighting when politicians and the media say Israel is a democracy.
Happy to bow to your greater knowledge on the Eurovision but I would still ban them. That historic eligibility sounds like it is a legacy of colonialism. I believe my comments re other countries in other continents don't want them e.g. the Euro football is correct and I lazily assumed it would be the same for the Eurovision. I'll be able to answer that now if it ever comes up in a quiz. Thanks.
DeleteGood point re: Germany. Eurovision’s 2024 dilemma is either hold a contest with an immense amount of protests, many even by the singers on the stage, or hold a contest without Germany.
DeleteThe “diplomatic” solution would be to rig the qualifier behind the scenes so Israel simply doesn’t get there.
I'd not bar Israel from these things. Instead I would suggest that leaders of the main countries should work together to resolve things diplomatically.
ReplyDeleteWould you have them dunk biscuits in their tea, while they’re at it? I’m sure that never occurred to them either.
DeleteIsrael needs slapped. That’s the issue. The world must not accept and condone genocide right before our eyes.
Had any other country in the world done what what Israel is currently doing in Gaza and the West Bank of the River Jordan then they would, at the very least, been ostracised by the western nations. I do not question the legitimacy of Israel seeking to retaliate after October 7 and also taking measures to protect their own citizens, but in Gaza they now seem to be completely out of control. The West Bank is a different issue as far as I am concerned, where pre October 7 the Israeli stance was one of aggressive land grabs, out and out intimidation and although I am reluctant to describe it as ethnic cleansing, it is hard not to justify describing it in those terms. It has to stop and the imposition of a sporting ban and a Eurovision ban would not be harsh decisions in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteBan Israel, hold it without Germany's money, and just broadcast a cut-price version where the singers just sing instead of distracting from their lack of talent with expensive pyrotechnics and stage shows.
ReplyDeleteWin/win/win.
The Eurovision song contest is a musical competition - and I am surprised it is seen as an appropriate vehicle for the issues relating to the Middle East to be worked through.
ReplyDeleteAnd is it an appropriate vehicle for the Russia-Ukraine conflict to be worked through, as the organisers appeared to believe last year?
DeleteLet israel enter, let germany sing. Let them both hear the wrath and the message they so badly need to hear from the rest of the world. A ban from the EBU seems like the cop put to me. Their performers should feel fear.
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