So as you'll probably remember, the first polling straw in the wind after the Alex Salmond story broke was a Scottish subsample from a GB-wide YouGov poll, and although it had the SNP in the lead, the party's share of the vote was down to 34% - breaking a long, long sequence of YouGov subsamples that had the SNP in the high 30s or low 40s. Although no individual subsample can be regarded as reliable, YouGov's Scottish subsamples are unusual in that they appear to be separately structured and weighted - which probably explains the relative stability of the results over time. So the drop to 34% might have been a coincidental and meaningless blip caused by normal sampling variation - but it might just have been a warning sign that the Salmond story had caused some damage.
As Marcia pointed out last night, a new YouGov subsample is now out which appears to show that normal service has been resumed...
SNP 40%, Conservatives 23%, Labour 21%, Liberal Democrats 9%, UKIP 4%, Greens 3%
If it does turn out that we're back to normal, and that's a big if, it'll be impossible to know whether the dip was real but transitory, or didn't happen at all. But the local by-election in Fife on Thursday certainly didn't show any sign of a catastrophic drop in SNP support.
Less encouraging are three subsamples from other firms - two from Survation that have the SNP in second place, and one from BMG that have them just about in the lead but in a virtual three-way tie. But those are based on very small samples, and probably aren't separately weighted in the way that YouGov subsamples are. For now the YouGov figures are of most interest.
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The buzz on the street today, was encouraging and naebody even mentioned the Salmond case. Labour dropping like a stone while Yessers hand out free Nationals. Bookies now favouring a YES indy result.
ReplyDeleteThe dark money story nowhere to be seen in the papers. Davidson being kept in cotton wool. She'll be the face of the NO campaign.
When she has her wee one she'll be all over TV and the papers.
Desperate stuff mind. Somebody should exclusively reveal that she's a Tory..
The only buzz we need is the sound of you buzzing off ramstam.
DeleteAnonymous AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteWhat is needed is a real Scottish poll.
ReplyDeleteThere you go again Tomlin FFS.
DeleteAnonymous AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteTha Bruce to tha rescue. Threedum!
DeleteAnonymous AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteIt certainly seems to jive with the feeling on the street. Not at 2015 levels but better than 2017. Whatever troubles the SNP may or may not have, they pale in comparison to suicide belts on the constitution and constant back-biting over anti-Semitism.
ReplyDeleteAlso, how Scots vote for the English parliament (particularly since EVEL and the apartheid that creates with respect to ministerial positions) will not decide Scotland's future. Independence will be decided in Scotland, not England.
Delete(Scots) Voters broadly appreciate this and, us 'hardcore' aside, just try to influence English elections as best they can. Hence they can vote in 41 Labour MPs (2010) then in the next breath (2011), deliver an SNP landslide and request a referendum on indpendence.
How people vote for Scotland's parliament (their parliament) under PR well reflects their political views. There is essentially no tactical voting involved; no need for it. How they vote for England's parliament by contrast is massively influenced by a desperate attempt to have influence based on how they believe England is going to vote. 2010...2015...2017 are all variations on this theme and e.g. why the SNP vote 'fell' in 2017 (tactical voting for Labour to stop an apparent huge Tory victory) yet independence 'tomorrow' is polling higher than 2014 and 'independence if brexit goes ahead' has been > 50% since the vote. Deltapoll have just found the same (52% Yes if brexit occurs) as our less Yes friendly panelbase:
http://www.whatscotlandthinks.org/questions/given-that-the-uk-has-voted-to-leave-which-is-your-preference-regarding-scotlan#table
(53% Yes when you add the yes together). The yes here is coming from the same people who put yes ahead briefy after the brexit ref but then calmed down and said 'not tomorrow, but in due course if brexit actually happens'.
That aside, SNP are up in the survation subsumple, meaning they are up in 2/3 recent subsamples. Must be a salmondgate* surge! ;-)
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#Salmongate will make absolutely no difference to anything, even if it did turn out to be completely true. People just don't make major constitutional decisions on such things - it shows you how deluded the british state is to think they might.
Yes 53% and growing call the indyref now.
Delete"jive with the feeling on the street". Yeah, wicked, Mon. Me n me bruvvas in da hood be master.
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteYou used to do these poll-of-poll summaries, which I found quite sound. Now you appear confident that the less favourable polls for the SNP can be discounted. This is contentious. If you were to include them, how would they influence your former poll-of-polls results? Why not continue that practice?
ReplyDeleteBecause its the end game for the so-called jocknatsis state and they want to bury their heads in the sand about it.
DeleteYou imp-poster. Anonymous am I.
DeleteAnonymous AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
Delete"Why not continue that practice?"
DeleteWhy not shut that gaping hole in face. Anita Harris fanny muncher.
M Markle AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteNow that Yes is at 52%, its time the referendum was called, with a sound well communicated campaign no reason that Yes can't reach 60% during the campaign period.
ReplyDeleteTwa hunner days tae Brexit, can the Jock Nat sis save the day for Scotland and keep us subservient tae the EU FASH MOBSTERS.
ReplyDeleteYoo fash natsis.
DeleteJOCKS WAE HAE WIE Barnier led.
DeleteDae ye even ken whit that means ya daftie?
DeleteAm a daftie hoo could a Ken.
DeleteGlesga2 AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteI enjoy standing behind nervous people talking to myself.
DeleteWe like standing behind young Scots whispering in their nervous ears.
DeleteMaris Piper Brotherhood AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteThis kind of result just shows how important pro-independence voting on the list will be in the next Holyrood elections.
ReplyDeleteOh you BIG Jock men, ooh la la my Mick will give you trade deals if you leave the UK Union. Oooh Mick its sore will you do this to Knickerless.
ReplyDeleteBarny yers hingoot floozie AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteYoo fash natsis
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What a shame. Poor soul.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. It needs professional help. We've been worried enough about its well-being to recommend that, but all we get in response are impotent rage and insults.
DeleteYou are a poor soul Iain T. Pathetic crap hound trying to be a new Micheal Parkinson. Test.
DeleteProf C AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteThe Nova Choke Kids are innocent. It is an MI6 fit up.
ReplyDeleteIf we're not careful Novachok is going to win Wimbledon next year and that will be a real slap in the face for Boris Johnstone
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteOooh frau knickerless das ist gutt a knee trembler, ve vill fast track you jocko women into our Fourth Reich.
ReplyDeleteherman barny yer Herr junkers pal GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
ReplyDeleteWhenever independence gets a wee boost in the polls, btl rapidly becomes the Britnat's 'go to' place to scream in fury and silence.
ReplyDeleteLet them, but pass on by lest you are sucked in!
Shut your creme puff gizzard. You Cilla Black female trannie queen.
DeleteNicker less dun john AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteMerry Christmas 2018
ReplyDeleteMerry Christmas 2018 images
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Christmas 2018
Congratulations on making more sense than the troll.
DeleteI shall be no mouse this Xmas. I shall eat of the lemon. ��
DeleteCelia Rodina Arthur Whyte-Semple AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteWent along to George Square yesterday to see the Nat si loony tunes.
ReplyDeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteJocko nat sis very quite today. Happy Union Day, jocks!
ReplyDeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteYa boola boola boola. Tickle me tit. Ya boola boola boola. Kiss me Hilda Grimslit.
DeleteFash Micky barn owl frog eyetie surrender monkey AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteBarn owls, frogs and monkeys. At least the misfit has an interest in wildlife.
DeleteAmong other bizarre tastes...
DeleteYeah. Like you want to taste my tommy whoosh.bwierdoh! Test!!
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteAnonymous AKA Larry Grayson
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteOi, Nonny Mouse! Yor gusset's out of control. Get a grip, missus!
ReplyDeleteHahahahahahaha.
GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteThe unionist mad dog, needs a wee holiday in Sri Lanka.
ReplyDeletePhone the pauchlin erse Paisley, for a line of broon envelopes.
It can't take a holiday from its various personal issues, though.
DeleteOi pooftah! My tommy woosh down your gizzard. Nat si bhum Bhoy.
DeleteOi nickaless fash bitch! Get Micki frog barn owl to shag you. Sorry he don't do fat ugly pugs.
DeleteM Markle AKA GWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteAs I mentioned above, it can't take a holiday from its many deep-seated personal issues.
ReplyDeleteTwiddle my twig. Split bhoyo. Test!!
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteQED. Its impotent rage has finally brought it to the point of incoherence.
ReplyDeleteGet her. Little Miss Tartyfart. You should be in a mental hospital.
DeleteYeah. She's a space cadet. Total pyscho.
DeleteI agree. She's a headbanger. Mental problems. Speaking to her invisible friend called Qed. Who doesn't exist. Nutball!
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteAlways fun to watch the troll busily chatting with all its friends...
ReplyDeleteI got millions of friends. But nobody even knows who you are. Jocko mental head case. Get sectioned four your own good.
ReplyDeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteIts screams of impotent rage are mildly amusing.
ReplyDeleteYour mildly mental. You need to see a pysciatrist. Your insane and dangeroys
ReplyDeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteI made it so angry it could barely type its enraged gibberish.
ReplyDeleteThat was fun.
Shove it up your nat si fat arse. Your the type of twat nobody likes. Your a lonely tit that people laugh at and call you scratchy. Parthetic
DeleteAnd you probably wear split crotch panties to your work. We all know about it. And we laugh our selves sick at you. We call you Pansy Ann Flower.
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
Delete"call you scratchy".
DeleteEh?
No, I didn't understand that either.
DeleteI put it down to a combination of impotent rage and low blood sugar.
I like "low blood sugar"; it's very funny. I've tried to alter the letters of "scratchy" to see if it's a misspelling, but can't get it to make sense. Not that we expect the misfit to make much sense.
DeleteNot sure where the "split crotch panties" came from either, but we live and learn.
Also, there's an exchange a bit further up the page where poor GWC2 seems to be agreeing with him/herself, as though s/he has forgotten what s/he has written. It's an odd one.
DeleteIain T? Iain Twat. You know where the split crotch panties came from. You boght them off a catelogue of poof gear. You wear them when Nonny Mouse gives you a pugwash. Purv.
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteWhat a poor, tormented, bitter creature it is.
ReplyDeleteStill, the screams of rage are vaguely amusing.
As for its barely coherent homophobic ramblings, those tell us far more about the troll than it ever wanted to reveal.
DeleteOh yes the truths coming out now and you can't face it. You shower of purvs. All you want is the Three Lions to shag you then you'll be happy. You need to see pysciathrists but they can't fix you. Bleeding wierdo HG s. You couldn't get a ride in a fish shop.
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteIt didn't like that at all, and I wasn't even specific about what trolly tells us about itself.
ReplyDeleteIt would be a suitable case for intensive Freudian analysis, if anyone thought it was worth the time and money.
Well well its Julie Andrews cutting the bund with Mother Theresa. Pass the gut bucket before I puke my ringer up. "I didnt like that at all". Oh dearie wearie me.
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteI made it so angry that it failed to read the comment before it vomited another stream of impotent rage.
ReplyDeleteIt also failed to deny its evident need for professional help.
I'd call that a result.
Time and moneyy yes that's all you minters have shoving your sifters to each others holes. You proble take my one right up
DeleteYou poof
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteI made it so angry and confused that it appears to have stayed up half the night trying to figure out how to respond.
ReplyDeleteNow that's funny.
What the hell are sifters and minters!
DeleteI'm not sure it even knows. It gets itself so worked up that it stops being coherent.
DeleteS/he accused me earlier of trying to be a new Michael Parkinson! That puzzled me as does his/her use of "Test!".
ReplyDeleteMost of its ravings are puzzling. My theory that they're the product of a mind which has, for most of its life, expected others to do its thinking for it. Bereft of guidance beyond the Redcoat and the Heil, its critical faculties are non-existent. That would certainly explain the lack of coherence.
DeleteYou get puzzled cause your a fuck*ng half wit. You should be in Broadmoor
ReplyDeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeletePoor GWC2. Imagine being that!
DeleteAll that impotent rage. The pain of knowing that everyone reading BTL is laughing at it. I can only assume someone's paying it - no-one could be stupid enough to do this for years for free.
DeleteGet back to me when you stop licking each others arsehiles.pair of handbag sniffers. Cut the fucki*g bund. The 2 a you. Gusset's. Test!
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteI think I made it cry.
ReplyDeleteUp your greasy arse you fuck*n* arsebandit. State a *ucking play.
DeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteYep. Definitely made it cry.
ReplyDeleteYou an your boyfriend probly getting up to a pugwash to night. Purvy wirdohs. Getting there gusset's split. Test!!!
ReplyDeleteBet your having a great time lifting shirts and munching the mattress.thr pare of you. Disgusting purvs and peafigs
ReplyDeleteStill at it are you. Oh yes. You should be arrested for being mental purvs. I bet your watching wierdo stuff on dvd too. The stuff you only get in tenarife down near the big mall. Split bhoyo!
ReplyDeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
ReplyDeleteI think I made it cry again.
ReplyDeleteYou can tell by the incoherence and impotent rage.
It continues to tell us way too much about its inner life through the sexually explicit nature of its insults.
ReplyDeleteEarlier we were treated to ramblings featuring "minters, sifters, test and purvs", and now we have "peafigs". I wonder when GWC2's dictionary is due out.
ReplyDeleteBest not trying to understand it.
DeleteMocking it is more fun.
You're right. It's hilarious!
ReplyDeleteShut your gash you fairy fanny poofs. Stay in your villa creaming the puff off eachother its what you like best. Bet your having a pugwash with Dale Whonton. Write now. Test!
ReplyDeleteGWC2 AKA The Hon. Cordelia Bracely-Dubois
DeleteIt continues to tell us way too much about its inner life through the sexually explicit and obsessive nature of its insults.
ReplyDelete