The results of four YouGov poll questions on Brexit commissioned by the SNP have just been released. I gather they were part of a much longer poll that included a straight question on independence, so unless the results are being released in stages, the likelihood is that we are seeing the figures most favourable to the Scottish Government's position.
Probably the most important finding is a decisive 51% to 29% majority in favour of the Scottish Government's proposals for Scotland remaining in the single market being taken seriously by the UK government and raised in negotiations with the EU. That's pretty embarrassing for Theresa May because we already know she's decided to do the complete opposite.
By a margin of 49% to 23%, respondents feel the Scottish Parliament should be consulted before Article 50 is triggered. This question is asked in the context of the legal challenge before the Supreme Court, but of course the letter of the law and the spirit of the law are not necessarily the same thing - even if the court ruling goes the wrong way, there's nothing to stop the UK government respecting the Sewel Convention and giving the Scottish Parliament its proper role in the process. That is clearly what the public want to see happen.
As you'd expect, people who voted Yes to independence in 2014 are strongly in favour of the Scottish Government's stance on both of the above questions. More interesting, though, is that No voters are literally split down the middle, which raises the possibility that the UK government being seen to make no meaningful attempt to compromise could start to erode support for the union as the months go by.
If the independence numbers from this poll are being withheld, it's difficult to know what to read into that. The SNP obviously wouldn't want to publish a poll showing a drop in support for independence, but then they probably wouldn't want to publish a poll showing a no change position either. You could also make the case that they would withhold a poll showing a dramatic increase in support for Yes, because that might put too much pressure on themselves to call a referendum quickly. I suspect they might have been tempted to publish a poll showing a middling jump for Yes into the high 40s, but that's just a guess.
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ReplyDeleteThis might be an idea to rid yourself of the pests that appear to be taking over here.
Also notice that your blog is exhibiting the same behaviour as Munguins just before it moved over to Wordpress.
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To be honest I've no idea what you're referring to. I have no plans to move to Wordpress or any other platform.
DeleteIt's still .co.uk for me, but blogspots have been suffering from this redirection problem for a while. Peter Curran tweeted a few days ago about his blog being redirected to .nl, but he's fixed it now. Google it and you can find the fix.
DeleteYou should also take advantage of Blogger's free security certificate. There is an option in Blogger accounts - "If HTTPS redirect is turned on: Visitors to your blog will always go to https://".
I've used that, and it works. This has an advantage in how Google prioritises search results, and may be why Google is giving away free security certificates in Blogger. The http:// version of the blog will not appear anywhere.
Speculation without sufficient information is seldom worthwhile. Might I suggest we take the good news for what it is until more details are available.
ReplyDeleteIt's out of date anyway, I guarantee another poll has been scheduled to take account of the continuing tory descent into out and out kipperism.
DeleteThere is no chance the SNP would release a poll showing majority support for independence. Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. At the moment WM is ignoring Scotland a poll with an indy lead might make them take notice - remember the 51-49 YouGov - we love you Scotland etc... It is too far from the indyref we really would be peaking too soon. No keep any pro-indy majority under the radar until it is too late :-)
ReplyDelete"Peaking too soon" makes no sense in the context of a decision to become independent. This isn't a high jump with 'momentum' and a short carefully-timed leap to scrape us over over the 50% mark. If public opinion is in favour of independence it ought to be still in favour after a few months or years - independence will last longer than that.
DeleteDenise is spot on. Anecdotally I'm personally aware of a marked swing to support Scottish independence in the EU following May's speech. These are people known to me who voted No in 2014, who had been wondering if they had made the wrong decision, and who have now come out and said that they did, and will be voting YES in IndyRef2. It would be foolhardy at this stage to throw down the gauntlet of such a swing to independence in polling to the perfidious Union. Keep it quiet and let Westminster arrogance do the rest until polling day.
DeleteThe poll was conducted before May's speech, so it wouldn't have picked up a post-speech swing in any case.
DeleteDatasets? Links?
ReplyDeleteCan't see anything on YouGov.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/categories/politics/
ReplyDeleteOn the right
I think bringiton's comment is based on an unstated problem: most of your posts are being trolled nastily by Glasgow Working Class 2, and others; and he's trying to point out a potential solution.
ReplyDeletemove from wordpress*
DeleteYour comment is in line with Nazi ism. Banning free speech! What next after that Nat si bhoy. I note from the Herald one of your favourites Daisley has moved on.
DeleteWhat I meant was that I had no idea what was meant about Dutch domain names. I've answered the 'solution' point a billion times before - I do not wish to switch platforms.
DeleteWhat's the reason for not wishing to switch platforms, James? Have you tried any of suggested solutions to rid yourself of the trolls?
DeleteSticking with Blogger is a personal preference. In any case, it's other people who feel there is a 'problem' to be 'solved'. I'm not sure why it's so difficult to scroll past annoying comments. The sort of 'problem' that might make me reluctantly switch would be a serious bug in the platform, but I'm completely oblivious to any of the issues referred to above. I noticed other bugs a few months back, but they seemed to resolve themselves.
Deletenah James - I rarely if ever read the comments now because of GWC troll - it just takes everything off topic. Given the likelihood of indyref2, you need to do something to get rid of his inane posts so that folk can have a decent conversation about what you have blogged. His incessant trolling just spoils it for everyone reading your blog.
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Sorry, but the answer is no. There are only so many times I can say the same thing. If I ever switch platform, it'll be for a different reason.
DeleteMunguins, Wings and all the rest are there for those who which a discussion without being called a fascist every five minutes by a sockpuppet kipper with the I.Q of a peanut.
DeleteFor whatever reason, the sockpuppet tory/kipper bigots are allowed to post with impunity so you're wasting your time trying to change anything.
Yer a thick Nat si knob who actually thinks the Tartan Tories do not exist and are not in power in Scotland. You are in denial. Thatcher would never have thought the Jock Nat sis would emulate her policies. Just have the balls to admit you are hypocrites Ya Nat si right wing scum.
Delete"a sockpuppet kipper with the IQ of a peanut"
DeleteI am SO stealing that.
I took part in this poll and there was a straight Indy question - quite worrying if this is not being released.
ReplyDeleteWhy?
DeleteWhether the polls are showing 60 or 6% is irrelevant as far as fighting to keep Scotland in the EU.
Also, how many times in the past have the SNP published independence polls? Good or bad?
Interesting - I didn't selective/partial publication of survey results was "allowed". I thought that was one requirement of being an accredited polling organisation.
DeleteAnon : I don't think it's worrying that it hasn't been released, in fact it's fairly typical. There are some circumstances in which it might have been released, but there are quite a wide range of circumstances (both good and bad) in which it would not have been. There's also an outside chance the straight independence question was not even commissioned by the SNP - it might have been tacked on by YouGov themselves for testing/technical purposes, for example.
DeleteYes, Yes/No at 16/82? Don't gies yer pish!
ReplyDeleteI've deleted that comment because it was obvious mischief-making, but there are probably a small number of people who would have fallen for it.
DeleteHow can you fight to stay in the EU? You need to hold a referendum and leave the Union then apply to the EU for membership which may not be granted more so if Scotland becomes an economic basket case. If any of you Nat sis think the EU will make us a special case then you are living in a fantasy world. The EU is a self serving elitist club and we are better out.
ReplyDeleteState of this.
DeleteJames,
ReplyDeleteI am quite interested to know whether there are any other polls due? It seems to me, but I may just have missed them, that there haven't been any since the New Year?
Is there a register or something where I could keep my eye open for that sort of information.
Best wishes.
Just follow James, he doesn't miss a trick.
DeletePoint.
Delete"2066 Scottish Adults"
ReplyDeleteThe SNP don't do things by halves, 2.2% Margin of Error, rather than the usual 3%.
It'd be nice to see a high 40s or even a majority for Indy, but I don't think it's important right now, this is still the waiting time.
The longer you wait means defeat. You Nat sis are so immature and just historicsl losers. People will look back and say why did the gobshit nat sis who continually mouthed aff eventually shit their pants. The CIA are clearly bribing Nat sis, LOL.
DeleteAlways a pleasure reading your comments GWC2, it reminds me of Edward Lear's Book of Nonsenes.
Delete"There was an Old Man in a tree,
Who was horribly bored by a bee.
When they said "Does it buzz?"
He replied "Yes, it does!
It's a regular brute of a bee!" "
Reminds me of you, somehow.
I do love nonsense and laughter moreso Scottish Nat si nonsense. The SCOTTISH Nat sis have shit themselves and are now looking after personal interests, eg: cash in the bank. And those same moneygrabbers condemn our ancestors who joined the Union.
Delete#impotentrage #hystericalyoon
DeleteInteresting little piece of data in the tables by the way, twice as many females as males "don't know", e.g. male 11%, female 22%. It could explain the difference in support for indy between male and female in other polls before this one.
ReplyDeleteAnd furthermore the present day Scots have the vote.... The Nat sis are still on the run and scared to go to the ballot. Taking the shilling they are. And seems they are happy to continue.
DeleteAbsolute state of this.
DeleteReport the dick to Police Scotland
ReplyDeleteThe most important piece of data has been omitted. Useless. You can demand everything you like but when presented with a clear choice between two scenarios, you will always go with the least worst option - hence why the yes / no data has been left out.
ReplyDelete"I am a Scot, unfortunately."
DeleteAldo
Going outwith the framework, I suspect is still hovering below 50%. Reality hasn't set in yet.
ReplyDeleteHard tae believe the Jock Nat sis have given up the struggle fur independence. Maybe the recipients of huge inflated salaries have changed their minds. But hey ho the Jocks have always been vulnerable tae the quick talking lawyers who dominate the Nat si movement.
ReplyDeleteWorking Class is dirty words in the Nat si circle of elites.
Nigel Farage is a public schoolboy multi-millionaire who used to be a stockbroker in the city of London. In other words, he is THE ELITE you dumbass.
DeleteTheresa May is Oxbridge educated, is also a multi-millionaire who used to work for the Bank of England. THAT is the very DEFINITION of the ELITE you clueless twat.
She's also married to a hedge fund mogul overseeing more than a trilliom in investment funds. VERY working class.
Blair and Brown tour the US and Europe selling their 'services' to the highest bidder (tens of millions earned from Dictators and Banks) while the Labour party just keeps right on making Labour Lords because the House of Lords is REALLY working class. LOL
Face it, you yourself have about as much in common with the working class as David Cameron did because you're a witless kipper sockpuppet with the IQ of a peanut.
Now fuck off back to your racist chums on stormfront lite unless you want every post you make to be followed by the quotes you've made on here which prove beyond question that you're a lying sack of shit.
I assume your GIRO was not in the post you angry person. And do post your drivel to your hearts content sad person. We are in the Union and leaving the corrupt EU gravy train soon. Now get the referendum up and running you Nat si gobshit bottle merchants.
DeleteState of this.
DeleteWhy doesnt that thing glasgow working class just come out with the word nazi I mean what is this nat sis crap all about maybe perhaps its because it knows that if it uses the nazi word then it automatically loses the argument is that what it is sonny
ReplyDeleteFascist is the traditional word for those who do not accept the result at the ballot box and more so for the losers who called for the ballot. You Nat si numpties must be really scunnered. The pleasure it gave me watching Nat sis greeting their eyes oot in George Square 20 September 2014. Go on make my day and call another referendum.
DeleteAbsolute bloody state of this.
DeleteI still jack it to the picture of the two women sobbing in George Square.
DeleteNadine's drinking very heavily these nights. Help is available, dear. Even in Chigwell.
ReplyDeleteSee ye in the Kings Heid Nadine!
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteSelf descriptive Nat si who admits to being a disposable bag of shite.
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteA brave move leaving the safety of political betting to enter the weird world here...
DeleteGwc is just a fanny. I don't even read his angry cloven hoofed rants. I think he is actually Mcternan or Foulkes on the bevvie. Both have drink problems and are social pariahs with paranoid delusions.
ReplyDeleteSo you comment on a subject you do not read. You are clearly not a fanny! But do keep commenting and you will contribute to the Union.
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteLooks like a Tri par tate trade agreement is imminent between The Tonald, Knickerless and Saint Theresa. The Tonald will have them in the rough, bunker or down the fairway.
ReplyDeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteNae need tae wipe yer erse Nat sil
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteYour repetitive lies seem to keep you alive Nat si bhoy.
DeleteAbsolute bloody state of this.
DeleteThere's a rather sinister conversation involving K Fuckofferson, where he defends the different treatment of the Scotland/england border and that of Ireland/ireland because they blew people up and we only use the ballot box.
ReplyDeleteFirstly that's a truly revolting position for anybody to take. Least of all one who spends so much time whining about evil nashunalists.
Also it is the very same argument which used to be made again, and again, and again, and again , and again, by AbiesAlba/JezernaRoza on Cif and the Herald.
Could it be that AA/JZ was not just the late unlamented prof Tompkins as everybody supposed, but was a another multi-troll Yoon account like JK PLagiarist's alter-ego Spanner?
Talk plainly and straight ya Nat si. Name names cleary.
DeleteGo on Terry. Call me that again and enjoy being dead.
DeleteAccording to Goggle maps there are 30 roads across the Scotland/Kipperland border.
ReplyDeleteI started counting those between occupied and free Ireland and reached 30 between the River Newry and Crossmaglen. That's 14 1/2 miles in a straight line.
Could K Fuckofferson or any of his fellow quislings please explain why they demand armed border guards between us and them but not between them and the other them?
Did not know there was a free Ireland. Is that the one where buggery was free for the clergy?
DeleteAbsolute bloody state of this.
DeleteSee you jimmy yer a wee white celtic sumpremist numpty who thinks the Jock Irish are a special god given breed tae ra planet. But ye are just a Guinness suppin bunch a morons innatt.
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteMcTonald Drump will be in Scotland soon Nat si bhoy and you right wing Tartan Tory fash will be crawlin tae him....Stop.... Knickerless will be having multiple orgasms just standing next to him.... Stop.... Keep out of the mortuary fash bhoy.... Stop...
DeleteAbsolute bloody state of this.
DeleteLooks like the tactics from May and friends will be to ignore Scotland and claim that we will get a say when Westminster is allowed a rubber stamp vote on A50.
ReplyDeleteIn the time honoured Westminster traditions,they intend to try and keep negotiations secret from the public,especially the Scottish public and present the outcome as a fait accompli.
Infortunately,this time they will be dealing with a hostile EU who have no interest in secrecy and will be leaking details like a sieve.
Likewise,I don't hold out much hopes for secret negotiations with Trumpland who appear to have sacked anyone with diplomatic credentials.
All their dirty little secrets are going to be out in the open for all to see.
You want what?!!!!
You could not keep Knickerless informed. She would bubble to her kraut frog allies.
DeleteState of this.
DeleteScottish schoolgirls protest against Trump. Stop... Meanwhile foodbanks and begging is on the increase in Scotland. Stop.... Trump and the Russians to blame. Stop... Scots are dimwitts. Stop.....
ReplyDeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteAbsolute bloody state of this.
ReplyDeleteTheresa May will this week travel to meet Donald Trump for talks about Nato, post-Brexit trade and fighting terrorism, but indicated she will not raise his “unacceptable” comments about women.
ReplyDeleteHowever, she told the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show that being a female prime minister and the first foreign leader to meet Trump since his inauguration would be the “biggest statement” she can make about the role of women in the world.
Lol. The UK wouldn't say boo to a goose.
Trump is USA president not the world ya knob. Obama was in power eight years and did little for the health of women. Trump is in office 24hrs and two millon fatsos are on the streets. Hail tae ra Chief.
ReplyDeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteNever mind, at least our nuclear weapons will allow us to avoid laughing stock status. Nations who dare to defy us will cower before our mighty...
ReplyDeleteA Trident missile fired last year from a Royal Navy nuclear submarine off the Florida coast malfunctioned and headed to the mainland during a routine test, but Whitehall ordered a news blackout to avoid “severe panic,” the Sunday Times reported.
Oh.
That is why they test em ya knob. It did not have a war head.
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteYou seem to have shite emerging from various directions. The bag should have been fitted in your intestine not yer mooth.
Deleteit obviously refers to you ya clueless tory twat
DeleteTartan right wing Tory Twat speaks with forked tongue. You Nat sis are the deception that will be exposed. You cannot hide behind your rhetoric forever. You are worse than the Tories. Real scumbags. Put the colostomy bag over yer heid and hold yer breath.
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DeleteIt's me a indyref2 supporter. You should show respect and stop being a SEXIT Remoaner.
DeleteTests find faulty missile therefore tests succeed and system does what it is meant to. There was a time when we exploded these things in the atmosphere and it didn't get a mention. Now one unarmed missile deviates from its course and its all over the news? People need to toughen up.
DeleteEven the Jock fash fundamentalist Nat sis are shiting themselves fae haudin a referendum. The colostomy bags are full and choking the scumbags. The smell and wind phew!!!
ReplyDeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeletePheeeww! Ye stink Nat si Tory bhoy.
DeleteAbsolute bloody state of this.
DeleteWhen referen dumb Nat sis. At least gie us time tae plan our holidays ya shitebags.
ReplyDeleteState of this.
DeleteThe Brexiteers trumpeting open borders and free trade with Trumpland.
ReplyDeleteDoes this mean we get Trump's unwanted Mexicans instead of Brexiteer's unwanted Syrian refugees?
When they tried this on with India,they were told a similar story.
You want free trade,then part of that bundle comes with freedom of migration.
Seems that is OK with anyone except our European neighbours.
Now why would that be I wonder?
Trade and migration are not necessarily compatible. The workers from the trading nations carrying the goods require overnight accommodation and that is necessary. The terror threat in Europe is very real thus border controls are required. That aside the EU experiment is now on its deathbed but it will fight to the end such is the wealth accumulated by the beaurocracy and their flozzies.
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteJames, infestation was a word used by the Nazis vermin being another towards the Jews. It seems you may have a real Nazi on here as opposed to your normal Jock Nat sis.
ReplyDeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteYou have to empty your bag on a daily basis as required and follow strict meticulous hygiene. Otherwise the shite will regurgitate and leave by your mouth thus the shite you write Nat si.
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteFor clarity, I am going to delete any further comments giving me advice or instructions on how to deal with the "GWC problem". I am sick to the back teeth of this - I have answered the same points again and again and again. My answers are highly unlikely to change. Perpetually going round in circles is completely pointless. No more, thank you.
ReplyDeleteLooks like the Jock Nat si party are not going to use their tax raising powers and the cuts will go ahead. The Tory press are urging the Nat sis not to raise tax and the Nat sis are going to comply. The term Tartan Tory is as vialble as it has always been.
ReplyDeleteSNP: we need independence so we can help ra poor!
DeleteUK Tories: Here is a tool we are giving you. You can use it to help 'ra poor', without breaking up the United Kingdom.
SNP: Not interested. We want independence!
"I am a Scot, unfortunately."
DeleteAldo
Still no sign of that pesky referendum is there chaps?
ReplyDeleteCome out come out wherever you arrree!
Oh I think I spotted it there!!......oh no it was just someone passing by in a blue raincoat...
Yellow belly raincoat. Cowards, wee slekkit cowering beasties who are panicking in their breasties.
DeleteThe troll calls scottish people "jocks", advocates arming Leave campaigners, claimed Jo Cox's husband was a fascist, uses racial and ethnic slurs, pretends to be Labour (badly) while espousing far-right racist hate-speech, praises Theresa May and the tories and displays a perverted poisonous obsession with Scotland's First Minister & her predecessor
DeleteTheresa May tae her credit has done exceedingly well in not falling into the looney left and Jock Nat si trap over a test missile....Stop...some of these old Nat sis and pretend lefties were Soviet Gulag enthusiasts.....Stop..... Solzenitsen was a liar according to them.
ReplyDeleteAbsolute bloody state of this.
DeleteAs a libertarian I believe in free speech but dumb stupid bigoted speech has a limit of three strikes and should be out.
DeleteYou have two left.
DeleteAbsolute bloody state of this.
DeleteJames, re - Yank missionaries. Watch out for the bright white perfect teeth and the cheesy grin. And avoid eye contact.
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