Monday, October 17, 2022

How unionist MSPs and the Express made idiots of themselves last night by celebrating FICTIONAL poll numbers on independence: what we know so far

I think I've finally pieced together what happened last night. It looks like the Panelbase poll that unionist MSPs were "celebrating" was the one commissioned by the Alba Party which I reported on a few days ago. When that poll was published, these were the results -

Should Scotland be an independent country? (Panelbase, 7th-11th October 2022)

Yes 49% (-)
No 51% (-)

The dashes in brackets indicate no change at all from the previous Panelbase poll in August, which was also Yes 49%, No 51%.  So nothing for unionist politicians to celebrate there - quite the reverse in fact, because the numbers show the BBC propaganda following the death of the Queen failed to make even the slightest dent in support for independence.

However, another Panelbase poll commissioned by Believe in Scotland was published after the Alba poll, even though it had actually been conducted a few days earlier.  It showed Yes 50%, No 50% - a considerable psychological breakthrough for Yes, because it's a relatively rare example in this calendar year of a poll that doesn't have No with a small lead.  But the downside is that it means we have to retrospectively update the percentage changes on the Alba-commissioned poll, because that one was conducted later.  The correct figures on the Alba poll are now...

Yes 49% (-1)
No 51% (+1)

When you have three successive polls from the same firm showing nothing more than a tiny fluctuation up and back down again of just one percentage point, that's practically the dictionary definition of 'margin of error noise' - meaning nothing has changed and the fluctuation is caused simply by normal sampling variation.  So, again, nothing for unionist politicians to celebrate.

But then some random bloke on Twitter called 'British Electoral Politics' decided to misreport the Alba poll as showing Yes 48% (-2), No 52% (+2).  When challenged as to where these inaccurate numbers had come from, he brazenly acknowledged that he hadn't actually seen the results of the poll with Don't Knows excluded and had made them up himself based on a crude recalculation of the figures prior to the exclusion of Don't Knows, which were the only ones he had seen.  He had made no disclaimer when publishing the fake numbers, which led to the cartoonish spectacle of the Express and heaven only knows how many unionist politicians (including Stephen Kerr and "fast bowler" Alex Cole-Hamilton) proclaiming the end of the independence cause, based solely on a work of fiction.

I've seen the raw numbers from the Alba poll and they show that 407 respondents (48.6%) said they would vote Yes, and 431 (51.4%) said they would vote No.  The numbers have been correctly rounded in the published results (I believe they were originally published as long ago as Friday in The National) to Yes 49%, No 51%.  The Express appear therefore to have published yet another flat-out lie about Scottish independence polling.  I'll wait until the end of the day to see if there are any further twists in the tale, but if not, and if the Express don't correct their error, we might have to think about complaining to the press regulator again.

11 comments:

  1. I know it's fairly tangential to the article (apologies) but just thought I'd mention. I received one of these SNP members raffle draw pack things and the letter in it states:

    "With the countdown to the referendum on 19th October 2023 well and truly started, we need your support now more than ever. Every ticket you buy today will power our campaign for a YES vote."

    So (as I've argued before) to me this does not sound like a party being particularly open and honest about the likelihood of that referendum going ahead as scheduled.

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    1. Sturgeon and Murrell open and honest - that boat left the harbour when they lied their way through the Scottish Parliament Inquiry into Sturgeon's persecution of Salmond. In addition there is also all the documents they hid from the court and the Inquiry and all the redactions made by Swinney to large numbers of documents.
      Open and honest - SNP leadership 😂😂😂😂😂

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  2. The britnat media continues to lie and lie. The SNP/SG continues to refuse to challenge these media lies in any kind of confident strident way. We can only conclude the SNP/SG is feart of the britnat media and is happy for the lies to continue. The SNP/SG should just say they would understand if the people of Scotland decided en mass to boycott all britnat media.

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    1. Sturgeon or Swinney saying something radical - your having a laugh. Sturgeon loves the BBC.

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    2. Unfortunately for Sturgeon the BBC doesn't care much for her. They gave more coverage to Mason Greenwood, Manchester United striker being charged with attempted rape than they gave Sturgeon launching her third paper on independence. Hey have any of Sturgeon's pals been spending time in Manchester recently?

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    3. WGD numpty Hamish100 says: "1pm National UK news or England if you prefer. The total time given to the FM announcement was 20.04 seconds give or take a decimal."

      So Hamish agrees with me that the BBC doesn't care much for her yet Hamish ignores Sturgeon's love for the BBC.
      Cognitive dissonance.

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    4. Does Hamish have any answer to explain Sturgeons love of the 100 year old British state propaganda machine called the BBC - nope - just the usual pathetic jibe that I am a Unionist. Sturgeon does support independence Hamish cries out in despair as we await permission from a Britnat court to see if Indyref2 can proceed. A referendum Sturgeons own Lord Advocate says will make no material change to the union.

      An independence leader seeking permission for a referendum from our colonial masters is nothing but a colonial governor playing the game of independence to keep numpties on side. These WGD numpties really are pathetic just like their great leader.

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  3. Express 'readers' don't like big words.

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  4. The Tories now prattling on about the need for financial stability yet I see they are still keeping the removal of the limit on bankers bonuses that was announced in the mini budget. This limit was introduced to try and help prevent a repeat of the 2008 financial crash. This sums up the Britnats - happy to look after their pals in the city no matter what.

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    1. Oh and still no comment on whether benefits/pensions will be uprated by inflation. What a Britnat shambles.

      Never mind the English media tell us Scotland won a cricket match. All is well again. Jolly good show.

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  5. You cannot really trust any polling done in U.K. if you think that highest level of Westminster government is corrupt but IPSO is not you need to rethink.
    Everyone can be got at
    Everyone has a price
    Westminster has no limits

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