Tuesday, December 15, 2015

Genuine question for Dan Hodges : if Jeremy Corbyn has already killed the Labour party four times, how can it possibly die again?

Merciful Dan Hodges has at last given Jeremy Corbyn some respite.  Just for once, it's Hodges' own fellow travellers in the PLP who are responsible for "killing" the Labour party, because (you've guessed it) they're not doing enough to get rid of Corbyn.  However, regular readers of Hodges' column may be a tad puzzled as to exactly how, in practical terms, it's even possible for these "spineless" parliamentarians to be killing the Labour party - an organisation which has apparently already been put to death by Corbyn on no fewer than four separate occasions since August.

Dan Hodges, 31st August : "Labour has ceased to be a real political party...we’ve now reached the point where it isn’t really possible to call Labour a political party at all."

Dan Hodges, 12th September : "The day the Labour party died. The Labour Party as we know it – and as some people once loved it – died today. Each and every one of us will be touched by its passing."

Dan Hodges, 5th October : "The Labour movement is dead."

Dan Hodges, 25th November : "The Labour party has ceased to exist."

Hmmm. I think we can only conclude that a key part of the cruel Corbyn/McDonnell masterplan is to keep bringing the Labour party back to life every few weeks, just so they can kill it all over again. Will this non-singing, non-bowing, Albanian-quoting, party-going, peace-loving Marxist madness never stop?

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Meanwhile, Hodges' even more unhinged Blairite brother John "the Gardener" McTernan has excelled himself with possibly the most hypocritical paragraph that has ever been written in the history of the English language. Indeed, if McTernan's name hadn't been at the top of the article, I might have assumed it could only have been written by the Professor of Hypocrisy at Hypocrite University.

"This strategy of ridiculousness – so ridiculous, to adopt the immortal words of Blackadder, it could only be thought up by the Professor of Ridiculousness at Ridiculous University – has as its current emblem the proposal to make Ken Livingstone a peer of the realm. Pause for a minute to savour the delicious irony – and total stupidity – of that concept. The "new politics" is about making appointments, rather than electing parliamentarians and then making them Shadow Cabinet members? New precisely when? The mid-eighteenth century?"

Tell me, John - in which parallel universe did the Labour Prime Ministers you worked for appoint only elected politicians to the government? Is it a figment of my imagination that, for example, Gordon Brown appointed the ultra-right-wing Digby Jones of the CBI (who wasn't even a member of the Labour party, let alone the House of Commons) as Trade Minister, and then immediately made him a Baron so he could continue in the job?

43 comments:

  1. I think McTernan could counter you're accusation of hipocracy with a quick deployment of a "Carmichael defence".Mr McT has never actually claimed he isn't a hypocrite,so its acceptable for him to be one.

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  2. A cunning plan? Neep. McTernan and Labour wallow in the stink.

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    1. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 15, 2015 at 2:13 PM

      McTernan does not associate himself with Islamic Fascists! unlike the New Labour Left. And why would Nat sis concern themselve with McTernan? He is not a threat Labour in any form will be in the wilderness for years.

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    2. Keep ironing your sash. Still kissing your Hitler pillow each night?

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    3. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 15, 2015 at 11:33 PM

      Anon, you probably look cute with your klobuk, crosier and mitre oan. Post a photo.

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  3. James, David Halliday has tweeted:

    'Will you vote to remain in (or leave) the EU?
    Scotland: 58 (42)%
    England: 48 (52)%
    Britain: 49 (51)%
    http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/ADDE-Tables-for-Release.pdf …'

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    1. Survation UK tend to get higher UKIP in Scotland than reality. This feeds into higher 'Leave' in Scottish subsamples.

      I'm guessing it is down to the old problem of too many English (born) people in 'Scottish' panels. Something I've never understood the reasons for, but seems to affect all online panel pollsters, hence most of them correcting for it in full Scottish polls.

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    2. ICM subsample:
      52% Leave
      35% Stay

      Fairly standard within normal subsample variation.

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    3. That should be the other way around of course!

      D-oh.

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    4. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 15, 2015 at 9:11 PM

      Typical Jocks always ensuring they have a free meal ticket since 1707. You Nat sis will be in the wilderness if the UK vote tae get oot. You will have to call another referendum and if you win negotiate to join the EU. Who will give you the free meal ticket in between and if the EU knocks ye back will you crawl AGAIN tae England.

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    5. I'd kinda gathered you weren't actually Scottish GWC. I suspect everyone else had too.

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    6. Aye, you have just blown your GWC cover, silly boy. Very careless - what has rattled you so tonight? May as well come clean now. So, what is it really:


      UKIP, UVF, BNP or NF?

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    7. Och he's slipped a bit before, but this time has made a big boo-boo. Direct link to specific post for useful future reference:

      http://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2015/12/genuine-question-for-dan-hodges-if.html?showComment=1450213869691#c3771563905545288903

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    8. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 15, 2015 at 11:24 PM

      Nah Luigi, its the PFJ.

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    9. Ha Ha, he'll be denying that he's a "sasenach" soon. Took you lot long enough to crack onto this guy. Apart from anything else, what self respecting working class scot would ever admit to being a Blairite.

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    10. I think reason for high number of English voices on panels is that they are much more likely to be active in the community than the locals. Be that politically or in a community sense.

      You only have to watch a weeks news reports to see how many local politicians and community 'spokesmen/women' are not locals. Its absolutely eye opening.

      I think when they move up they just go all in and so they are much more visible. Certainly more than the 10% census would tell us.

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  4. McTernan is a laugh with every word he utters or publishes.

    The Blackadder quote? I don't remember that one. He might be right but I do remember in the rightly famous last episode Blackadder saying to Baldric something about a cunning fox who is Professor of Cunning at Oxford University. Don't remember the Ridiculous University though. I wonder if John actually went there?

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  5. GWC:
    Away and gobble your EDL Nazi Coco Pops.

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    1. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 15, 2015 at 11:28 PM

      You wrap up warm tonight David and wait for the cooncil tax freeze ra morra fae the New Tartan Tories.

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    2. Ha Ha.."Ra" morra....brilliant, it's like somee kind of science fiction scene where the human mask starts to melt and the monster underneath is starting to show.

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    3. He has been watching Rab C. Nesbbit.


      5/10 for effort.

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    4. I've been watching Rab C on Netflix the last few days. It reminded me of the yessers. They should bring it back and have Jamesie Cotter campaigning for independence and Rab a secret no voter who gets found out. Good material there!

      Aldo

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    5. Rab C a no voter huh? I can see where you get that.

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    6. Based on the fact that in one of the early episodes he voted conservative.

      Aldo

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  6. Comres UK poll Scottish subsample on the EU:
    70% Remain
    22% Leave
    8% DK

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  7. The Labour party died when it let Blair and Mandelson get their mitts on it and the Labour Northern Branch died when they let that clown McTernan advise it.

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    1. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 16, 2015 at 1:25 PM

      Do you have a problem with that?

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    2. I don't have any complaints about the Labour party destroying itself. Been though quite a lot of popcorn watching bemusedly.

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    3. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 16, 2015 at 7:02 PM

      Nat sis underspend. Unable to help the poor. Will not use tax powers. Wonder what Anon the great pretend leftie has to say. Maybe he will say resign to all Nat si MSP hypocrites. Public services being slashed and Swinney has £200 million underspend.

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    4. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 16, 2015 at 7:07 PM

      Skier, I have never known a Tory that does not want to see Labour destroy itself so you are not on your own in that opinion.

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  8. Slightly more realistic Lab vs Con levels in the UK MORI subset (of only 70 so normal caveats apply):
    49% SNP
    27% Lab
    12% Con
    7% Lib
    3% Green
    1% UKIP

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    1. MORI EU Question Scottish sample:
      74% Remain
      18% Leave

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  9. Typical Jocks always ensuring they have a free meal ticket since 1707. You Nat sis will be in the wilderness if the UK vote tae get oot. You will have to call another referendum and if you win negotiate to join the EU. Who will give you the free meal ticket in between and if the EU knocks ye back will you crawl AGAIN tae England.

    Are you a 'Jock'?

    I was, somewhat impressed with your knowledge of the Glasgow Trolleybus network, which has to be a minority, largely Glaswegian pursuit. However there are other obsessives out there, despite the fact that thee and me might find it a fascinating but dead end tehnology.

    But I have never, ever, seen anyone born here desribe themselves as a 'Jock'.

    Which, if you think about it, what with you being 'Glasgow Working Class' is how you have just described yourself.

    Frankly, it rings hollow.

    Good night.

    Jock

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    1. Possibly wears the sash his father wore and union jack underpants. Some of those people might trace their ancestry for generations in Scotland but would never describe themselves as Scottish. They'd like to be English, but the English want nothing to do with them so they call themselves British.

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    2. Scottish Skier,

      I cannot invent a scenario where even these folk would see 'Jock' as acceptable. As a desription of themselves.

      It is not exactly the 'n' word, but is insulting to anyone, so described. It is a deliberate put-down, and applies to all of us.

      It is the joy of racists everywhere to claim a derogatory term and apply it globally.

      Perhaps everyone will see the extreme right on here as Trolleybus experts, didn't they, and their ilk, keep the trains on time?

      No.

      They just murdered.

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  10. Yes I do know how to spell *technology and *describe,

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    1. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 16, 2015 at 8:16 PM

      Dinnae bother aboot ra spellin dug less. That is for pedantic Nat sis that lose the argument.

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  11. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 16, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    Typical Nat sis when faced with hypocrisy and shame they start their drivel about sashes and so on. You are so predictable.

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    1. Glasgow Working Class.

      Are you?

      I cannot invent a scenario where even these folk would see 'Jock' as acceptable. As a desription of themselves.

      It is not exactly the 'n' word, but is insulting to anyone, so described. It is a deliberate put-down, and applies to all of us.

      It is the joy of racists everywhere to claim a derogatory term and apply it globally.

      Perhaps everyone will see the extreme right on here as Trolleybus experts, didn't they, and their ilk, keep the trains on time?

      No.

      They just murdered.


      I doubt it very much.

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  12. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 16, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    That is ridiculous and worse than PC. Jock is a term of endearment. Used towards Scots in the Army. I have letters written to my dad from soldiers he served with during WW2 and they start Dear Jock. Never bothered him. Our ancestors would laugh at their decendent A.H. idiots.

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    1. A 'term of endearment' is only such if the recipient welcomes the use of that term to describe them / permits it. Hence it tends to be used between friends. If used without permission, it's an insult.

      Anyway, enough of this you thick as pigshit fuckwit.

      That's a term of endearment by the way! Always used to call my best mate that as a joke :-)

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    2. Glasgow Working ClassDecember 16, 2015 at 10:17 PM

      Skier, you have a propensity for hyperbole commonly known as bullshit. What about the Tory Nat sis refusal to raise tax to help the poor they have been ranting on about for dunkies. How does it really feel being part of this lot of Nat si con merchant vomit materiel.

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    3. Exactly how many people do you think will change their views based on your endless stream of insults? Curious minds would know.

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