I was completely wrong about that. The leadership were in fact totally wedded to the pay-per-vote system, and the reason why can be summed up in three little words - "Tasmina", "Ahmed" and "Sheikh". Without pay-per-vote, there would be no way of guaranteeing that Tas would continue to top the annual female ballot for the NEC, and it was only by topping the ballot that she could justify her ongoing unelected role as Party Chair. The constitution review was just a classic "kick it into the long grass by setting up a commission" wheeze, with the intention of dropping all talk of one member, one vote after emotions had cooled a bit.
Whenever I'm asked about Alba these days, the most common question is "so why exactly were you expelled?", to which all I can respond with is "that's a very good question" or "your guess is as good as mine". But of course there's a big distinction between the 'official' reason, which is impossible to pin down due to the risible vagueness of McEleny's disciplinary referral document, and the 'real' reason, which was almost certainly much more specific.
One plausible interpretation of that 'real' reason is that it was bound up with Tasmina's determination to keep the pay-per-vote scam going at all costs. The Constitution Review Group set up in early 2024 was 50% appointed, 50% elected, and three of the four elected members were in favour of reform. Those three were myself, Alan Harris and Mike Baldry. I've outlined in a previous blogpost how Tas menaced Alan, myself and Morgwn Davies with talk of disciplinary action on trumped-up charges in the spring of 2024, before quietly dropping those threats a few weeks later and announcing that she'd destroyed all of the relevant evidence. Part of the idea was probably to see if one or more of us voluntarily resigned to avoid the hassle and stress of a possible disciplinary process. Alan Harris did indeed resign from Alba within a day or two of the threats being issued, although I must stress that his stated reasons for leaving had nothing to do with Tasmina's stunt.
Alan's departure reduced the number of reformers on the Constitution Review Group from three to two, exactly as Tas had presumably hoped. But with the group's chair Hamish Vernal saying he wanted a consensus report, Mike Baldry and I still had some leverage between us. Although the meetings of the group were fractious and unpleasant affairs, we ultimately managed to convince Hamish that on important matters where there was no consensus on the group (such as one member, one vote), Alba members should be allowed to choose between the majority option and the minority option. That would have allowed members to make a straight choice between one member, one vote, and the status quo of pay-per-vote, at the party conference later this month.
However, after the compromise with Hamish had been agreed, I was of course unceremoniously expelled from the party. It's reasonable to wonder whether the reason for that, or part of the reason, was to reduce Mike Baldry to a minority of one and make it impossible for him to hold the line on what had already been agreed.
My worst fears on that front seem to have been confirmed. I'm told there was a marathon five-hour meeting of the Constitution Review Group over the weekend to decide on a final proposed constitutional text to put to conference. The sheer length of the meeting is a strong indication that what had already been agreed was not being adhered to and that everything was back up for grabs. It must have been almost impossible for Mike Baldry to keep the minority options in play, not only because he had been whittled down to a minority of one, but also because the anti-reform members of the group include Chris Cullen and his immature fiancée Shannon Donoghue, who are part of the so-called "Corri Nostra" and are thus close allies of Tasmina.
What I'm hearing, and admittedly I'm getting this from a second-hand source but a very confident one, is that the meeting decided that Alba members will no longer be given the option of introducing one member, one vote, and will instead be presented with a fait accompli of the discredited pay-per-vote system being retained indefinitely. To put it mildly, the optics of this are absolutely catastrophic, coming just 48 hours after Craig Murray provided dramatic new information about how the 2023 NEC elections had been stitched up. As you'd expect in any tinpot dictatorship, the Alba leadership have not taken the opportunity to tackle the massive problems that have been identified, but have instead doubled down to ensure that the fun of vote-rigging can continue into infinity.
Serious questions have now got to be asked of Hamish Vernal, who promised me to my face that minority options like one member, one vote would be put to the Alba membership, but who then played a role in getting me expelled, and subsequently seems to have cynically used that expulsion as an excuse to block reform totally. So much for Alba as a "member-led party". Members don't even get to express a view on whether they want democracy.
As I said only yesterday, without democratisation Alba will wither and perish. People may be willing to put up with authoritarian tendencies in a large party of power and consequence, but the tolerance levels for the Il Duce principle in a small party are very limited indeed. Members who find they have no say in the party's direction or how it is run will just keep drifting away, and all you'll be left with is a small number of clapping seals. A narrow sect of that sort is going to be of no interest or use to the Scottish voting public.
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Meanwhile, Shannon Donoghue has yet again breached Alba's social media policy (specifically the part barring the targeting of individuals) with the tweet below. So will she now face disciplinary action? Och, don't be silly. She's in the Corri Nostra, she's the daughter of the General Secretary. The rules are for the oiks.
The issue you have when you surround yourself with snakes is there is always a bigger one willing to turn. 🐍
— Shannon Donoghue (@shannon_talks_) March 2, 2025
Some people will only love you as much as they can use you. In this case, Craig you help the narrative. Shame they didn’t think that about you last year.#Receipts 💥 https://t.co/zxkxsDI2bo pic.twitter.com/xlIR3gONpz
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Denise Findlay has a new post on her blog about how Alex Salmond pressurised her to withdraw her candidacy for Organisation Convener in 2023 - you can read it HERE.
Say what you like about Bella Caledonia, but they're not wrong about Tas and her condescending Jackanory voice.
ReplyDelete'What's the story in Tasanory
Who the f*** wants to know?'
Alba truly doesn't deserve her.
DeleteOn that we can all agree! Even her.
I like the bit where Small tosses the Greens in with Peter Bell and Collette Walker. If you managed to put them all in a room, the Greens aren't coming out!
ReplyDeleteMind, the Greens will get something like 100 times as many votes in 2026. Must be nice.
Forgive me, James, I'm quite new to this particular topic ... what is a pay-per-vote system and how can it be used as a scam to benefit certain individuals? I've googled it without success.
ReplyDeleteBy wealthy individuals (or even moderately well-off individuals) buying votes in bulk. I can't remember the exact cost per vote but I think it's in the region of £20 or £30, so 100 votes can be bulk-bought for £2000 or £3000. In theory each vote has to be assigned to a different individual, but the people involved don't actually need to do anything very much, and in practice they may not actually need to exist.
DeleteIs this legal in a political party?
Delete@11:24pm - Almost anything is legal internally in a political party. This is because otherwise, the governing party becomes responsible for policing the internal affairs of other parties.
DeleteRussia has that in full force. So...
Thanks James, I can see it now. Just incredible and disappointing that Alba is being run that way. John M.
DeleteWho, in Alba is eligible to buy these votes? And who in Alba has bought them?
DeleteWhat happened in 2023 is that a large batch of new members suddenly appeared and were all conveniently assigned to the HQ branch, where hardly anyone knew of their existence. (That was essentially the evidence that Denise Somerville uncovered, and that McEleny suspended her for.) Conference delegate passes were then purchased in bulk for all of those people, which gave them the right to vote in the NEC elections - but they didn't have to turn up at conference to do that. The ballot form will have been sent to their email addresses. So in reality those votes may all have been cast by the same person. The beneficiaries were the little-known Abdul Majid (who won the male ballot by a truly insane margin), and of course Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh.
DeleteThanks for that explanation. It’s very worrying that this system is being allowed to continue.
DeleteBut, is this common practice in political parties? For eg, how do the SNP do these things?
It is a matter of deep regret to all of us in the Alba Party that Chris McEleny has chosen to personalise these issues.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g029l2j49o
ReplyDeleteStarmer magnanimously praises Ewing.
You mean Swinney, not Starmer.
DeleteI’m so pleased you read my x . Denise says nothing but nice stuff in a screen shot but I posted it anyway . I was at the Eagle Inn on the gin .
ReplyDeleteDidn't you used to swally in the Segton?
DeleteBeing a stupid piss head appears to be something to boast about in the upper echelons of Alba.Shouldn’t really be surprised. Votes for sale. Discount for bulk purchase.
ReplyDeleteCeline Gottwald has been warning about this for years.
DeleteBut you came up with the snake emoji after we'd been enjoying a pony in the Eagle.
DeleteIt was a brillaint idea, BTW!!
She's like the alien queen of Alba with that big egg tube thing. James is Ellen Ripley with a flamethrower.
ReplyDeleteNothings happening on the independence front. This drama helps to kill time.
ReplyDeleteJohn Swinney has a sureness of touch and gave a great speech at Conference. We can all agree.
ReplyDelete@James did you watch the Scotland Tonight discussion with Ash & Kenny?
ReplyDeleteIf you were to give an objective view based purely on that, who did better?
Not james but Kenny was better impressed.
DeleteKenny was good. Ash was snidey, and I saw a slightly ugly side to her I've not before. Shame she's not going for deputy. She's capable but too ambitious relative to her current ability - if that weren't the case, she wouldn't act so snidely towards Kenny live on TV.
DeleteIs the big democratic problem with the SNP fixed yet. Why did they all resign a while ago?
ReplyDeleteWho will fix it if they’ve all resigned? Silly billy.
DeleteObviously not the ones who made them resign will it?
DeleteThe "democratic problem" in the SNP is far from solved. The mildly spoken, bureaucratic elitism is alive and well. Even if these bunches of self servers who 'run' our political parties managed by a miracle to fumble their way to independence what would be the nature of our new polity under such people ?
ReplyDeleteA mini version of the UK is pretty unattractive. I've just rejoined the SNP after some discussion with internal oppositionists. I actually have only very modest hopes of democratic progress but in the chaotic world in which we now live something has to be attempted.
Alba is irrelevant, only it's size and voter base make the SNP a better place to be.
Grim determination is what we have left.
John Swinney to be fair is a great leader and has made a massive difference for all.
DeleteGood luck, Alt Clut. You see the situation as it is.
Delete“ made a massive difference for all” - give it a rest with your schoolboy standard propaganda.
DeleteI posted on your previous thread yesterday and provided my opinion that Stalinism seemed to be prevalent inside Alba under Alex's reign. You appear to want to put the blame for this solely on Tasmina. Alex was nobody's fool and he would have known perfectly well what was happening. I will remind you that at the time of Stalin's 'purges' back in the 1930's , many of the people being carted off to the camps were reported to have shouted, "Wait till Stalin hears about this"! With regard to your own expulsion from Alba and not knowing the reason, I can tell you. You expressed dissent about what was happening and your dissent was considered as a threat by the people leading the party. As I also said in another post at the time you were expelled, had you resided in the old Soviet Union back in the 1930's you would - at best - have ended up in a Siberian labour camp.
ReplyDeleteALBA is not in government.
Delete"You appear to want to put the blame for this solely on Tasmina."
DeleteI don't know where you get that impression from - I've spent far more time highlighting McEleny's role than Tasmina's. I've criticised Alex Salmond as well, albeit to a lesser extent. I've also pointed out the harmful role played by Chris Cullen, Shannon Donoghue, Yvonne Ridley, Josh Robertson, Robert Reid, Jackie Reid, Christina Hendry, Daniel Jack, and others.
(Different anon)
DeleteYou certainly have, James. All those people acted badly. But who defined the culture of the organisation, and who empowered them to enact the reign of terror that they did?
The previous poster's analogy seems to suit this very well. You saw the tribunal, the armed guards, and the rabble rousers who made sure the crowd outside the door knew you were the one to hate. You even had a word with Stalin, as I’m sure many of his purges' victims did before they found themselves the subject. You felt what it was like to be scapegoated for trumped up charges which made no sense to anyone; while everyone applauds the guilty verdict.
The irony in all of this is that Salmond may well have felt quite the same way after his experience. His reaction was to make a party in his own flawed image, and the first few people he brought on board corrupted it in theirs from the outset. It's all got a thick layer of tragic irony, as well as open farce. If he hadn't died, it would be one with lasting consequence.
Unfortunately, this is all footnotes to the footnotes of history now.
Anonymous 9.17 am - you are spot on. It's the unfortunate and inevitable conclusion from close observation of the workings of the leadership of the Alba Party from its inception. Salmond was not supported by the Sillars faction (Sillars, MacDonald, Neil, Lawson and MacAskill, etc.) in his first successful bid for leadership of the SNP. That faction later reached its own accommodation with Salmond, although MacAskill was well known for planting stories in the Scottish press some years afterwards. However, Sillars and MacDonald were less accommodating of Salmond's creeping authoritarianism. That led to a public split between Salmond and Sillars (documented in a book by Sillars) and the undermining of Margo McDonald's bids to be elected on the regional list for the Lothians. At the second successful attempt to keep her out of contention, she stood as an Independent.
DeleteAnonymous 12.42 - these are pertinent and perspicacious observations and conclusions. You are correct. When you examine the background, political or otherwise, of the main players in the Alba Party, there's a strong whiff of deals being made. A good starter is the Wikipedia pages for Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh and Corri Wilson. There's professional and political corruption and incompetence and a grotesque sense of self-entitlement all rolled into two people. Others are less impressive in their mendacity.
DeleteI'm getting very close to the idea that the ISP should just go for it. After all, they'd done the spadework in drawing up a decent constitution in 2020-21 and it was just ignored by Alba. So the "Celeb Party" jumped right in, with the results we now know. (The Blogging Wing in Ireland, England, Barcelona and Cumbernauld had been tipped off in advance. (Oh, and there was Mr Ambassador as well.) Maybe an early clue about the nature of Alba there?)
ReplyDeleteTbh I really don't get what the ISP are doing. They seem to just be sitting back, not trying to get themselves noticed.
DeleteThe rare times when we do hear something from them it's mainly niche issues nobody gives a toss about like the oath of allegiance. Their priorities seems to be all wrong and it's like they're just waiting for an invite to a cross-Party convention no one is arranging.
They seem to need a bit more democratic muscle.
DeleteMaybe they're waiting until the end of March when the one Alba question - "To salvage or not to salvage?"- will have a definitive answer.
"The Blogging Wing in Ireland, England, Barcelona and Cumbernauld had been tipped off in advance."
DeleteAlex Salmond phoned me several times over the year prior to Alba's launch, but he never once directly mentioned a new party. I knew he wouldn't be bothering cultivating the New Media unless he was at least considering a new party, but like a lot of other people, I had started to conclude he'd left it too late and must have decided against it. I did have advance information about what form the party might take if it did happen, but that was coming indirectly from another source.
The announcement when it happened came as a genuine surprise to me, although a selected group of other bloggers must have had some advance warning because they were invited to ask questions at the virtual press comference!
Senior members of ALBA hierarchy elected to give SGP privileged access to party leadership by means of extended online interview after launch.
DeleteIs it true that Laurie Flynn founded Alba and invited Alex to become the leader or did Alex ask Laurie to register the Party with the Electoral Commission?
Delete"Senior members of ALBA hierarchy elected to give SGP privileged access to party leadership by means of extended online interview after launch."
DeleteHi, Kirk.
"Is it true that Laurie Flynn founded Alba and invited Alex to become the leader or did Alex ask Laurie to register the Party with the Electoral Commission?"
I don't have any direct information about that but I'm almost certain it's the latter. Mr Salmond would have looked for someone to front the initial registration to maintain an element of surprise. It had to be someone he could trust but who wasn't widely known to be in his pocket. The aforementioned Kirk couldn't have done it, for example - that would have been a dead giveaway.
If I was upstairs on a bus and I saw J D Vance walking down the street I'd throw an egg at him. If I had any on me of course.
DeleteWho? And yes it is a serious point. Outside this bubble no one has heard of ISP. And Alba is dead in the water. Move on.
DeleteMove on to what though?
DeleteThe only time to write about the SNP atm is whenever there's a new poll. They're literally not doing anything worth mentioning, unless it's a scandal.
Presumably, you don't realise that ISP is even less democratic than the Alba Party. Just for starters, check out the party constitution. Power is completely centralised within their 'executive committee' - a small group of 5 or 6 people who cannot be removed from power, except by the others on that committee. They are a hobby party run by a woman who went on a course intended to encourage disabled people to get into politics. After completing this course ( 3 years after IndyRef), she was interviewed in a newspaper and proclaimed that she had not yet decided which political party she would join. She subsequently joined the SNP and was promoted on their website as one of their '100 women'. Disabled people can access extra funding to help them in politics. That's why ISP is centred on Collette Walker and why it will remain an irrelevance. Anyone who creates a political party on such an undemocratic platform cannot expect serious political activists to give of their time, effort and money - without such grit, electoral success is a vain hope.
DeleteThanks for this. Very informative. ISP. Another entity that is not a democratic political party.
DeleteI read the ISP constitution a few weeks ago, and I can confirm the description above is accurate. All of the office bearers, including the leader, are specifically named in the constitution and they all hold office for life, unless they voluntarily step aside. And even if someone does resign, the replacement is selected by the committee, not by party members.
DeleteIt was strangely reassuring to find a party that is even less democratic than Alba.
All ISP seem to do is go on about niche issues and complain when people (including Alba) forget they exist, which tbh is understandable as even the Scottish Christian Party are doing a better job at getting noticed.
DeleteReal hardcore indy activists know the Scottish Libertarians are our only hope. ;-)
DeleteI'd join the Scottish Librarians, but I’d have to pay for my overdue books first.
Here is the constitution, so that people can judge:
Deletehttps://www.isp.scot/constitution-of-the-independence-for-scotland-party/
In support of part of what you've said, I don't immediately see where the Executive Committee gets its authority from. It also looks as though its members could go on until they die of old age or boredom without any democratic challenge.
But if any passing ISPers can correct my misguided ideas or offer details of planned reforms...
AI's assessment:
Delete1. Centralized Power in the Executive Committee
✅ Accurate – The Executive Committee (EC) holds significant centralized power, as it:
Controls party administration and finances (Sections 6 & 9).
Makes policy decisions outside the National Conference (Section 6).
Has authority over branches and can dissolve them unilaterally (Section 5.4).
Acts as the final appeals body in disputes and disciplinary matters (Section 6.k & 12).
However, the National Conference (Section 7) is technically the supreme policy-making body where all members can vote, though it’s unclear how much influence it actually has over the EC.
2. Lack of Democratic Removal Mechanism for EC Members
✅ Mostly Accurate – According to Section 6.4.2, an EC member can only be removed if ALL other EC members unanimously declare no confidence. This means there’s no general member vote to recall EC members, making it difficult for grassroots members to hold leadership accountable.
That said, expansion of the EC is possible (Section 6.2), so in theory, it could become more democratic over time.
3. Collette Walker’s Background and Funding Claims
❌ Opinion-Based and Lacks Evidence – While it’s true that Collette Walker took part in a political training course for disabled individuals and later joined the SNP, there is no evidence in the constitution that ISP is built around securing funding for disabled candidates.
Moreover, extra funding for disabled candidates exists across all parties (via Access to Elected Office Fund in Scotland), so this is not unique to ISP.
4. ISP as a 'Hobby Party' and Political Viability
⚠ Subjective Opinion – The phrase "hobby party" is an opinion rather than a factual claim. ISP is a small party, but its stated aim is electoral success, and its constitution provides a framework for candidate selection and fundraising (Sections 8 & 9). Whether it will achieve success is uncertain, but labeling it an irrelevance is speculative.
Conclusion
The centralization of power in the Executive Committee and lack of removal mechanisms for leadership are valid concerns that make ISP less democratic than some other parties.
However, the claims about Walker's motivations and funding mechanisms are not supported by direct evidence.
The "hobby party" accusation is a subjective interpretation rather than an objective fact.
The real reason anyone joins ISP is in response to the David Francis types who badger everyone with So What's Your Plan For Independence Then, Eh?
DeleteThen it turns out that no one is doing anything, anywhere, anyway.
Interesting, but in fairness when I asked AI what part of Ireland the Alba Party's Chris Cullen comes from, it said "he's not from Ireland, he's from Ayrshire". I protested "But I've met the dude! He's got an Irish accent!" But the machine was having none of it. It suggested that I was probably getting him mixed up with a completely different Chris Cullen who is a musician or painter or something.
DeleteCullen is from Northern Ireland.
DeleteI know. Armagh, to be exact. I eventually worked it out. I think AI was getting confused because the only online reference to him being from Ireland dates back to his SNP days.
DeleteOne tragic side-effect of Grok's recent update is that it seems to know less about Shannon Donoghue than before. It used to give me detailed analysis of her predilection for the word "wee", but now all I get is "if there is an individual called Shannon Donoghue in the Alba Party..."
DeleteAnonymous 3.20 pm - in 3 and 4 you're asserting claims which were not made in the comment. That's the problem with artificial stupidity.
DeleteSomething is about to emerge from Loch Mess. No-one knows what, because Scotch politics is quite primitive.
ReplyDeletehttps://archive.ph/VifFi
JD Vance is just Ellis from Die Hard.
ReplyDeleteThe union is safe for 100 years with the SNP in charge.
ReplyDeleteGood to know. Wipe down your keyboard, take off your anorak and get out in the fresh air.
Deletethe steady hand of the great oarsman swinney will bring us to the promised land via the long march and the trail of tartan tears
Delete- ohyes
I bet trump absolutely shat it when he heard John -crazy- Sweeno was coming in for the ukrainianianianists.
Deletewe need another mandate, then a national conversation about what it means to be scottish, then a purge of penised-women bigots, then, go for net zero, smash capitalism, and then, when all the ducks are in a row, we really go for it this time, like we mean it
Deleteif the SNP get another mandate, westminster's position will be untenable
Deletethat is offensive to the wet keyboard community
Deletealso why take your anorak off to go outside
Peter A Bell's the man !
DeletePrepare to buy a lot of umbrellas if you want to stand with Bell, it only rains where he is
DeleteAnon at 3.23. Oh dear did I interrupt you? Has it gone everywhere? Oh well. You’ll go blind.
DeleteJohn Swinney is a interesting as watching lard melt in a cold room. His influent on the independence movement is similar.
ReplyDeleteJohn Swinney is very highly regarded by ordinary Scottish people -- like all the good leaders he was born with the common touch.
DeleteReal hardcore indy activists know the Scottish Libertarians are our only hope. ;-)
DeleteI'd join the Scottish Librarians, but I’d have to pay for my overdue books first.
Like what?
ReplyDeleteThere's nothing happening that's worth being written about.
In reply to a deleted comment, I think at least a part of the point of all this is that it shows the SNP ain't that bad after all. Good grief :-( Wash my mouth out with soap.
ReplyDeleteOr it could show that we're not half as radical and critical as we think we are. What's the point of agonising about 'progressive' prerequisites for Indy, other countries' politics and approaches to international bodies if we can't manage basic drafting and organisation?
DeleteBut I suppose we don't have any political and intellectual traditions to draw on... /s
We have had two decades of of the intellectual rigour of the SNP. They have been startlingly incompetent. Next up Baldy Shoutface. They cant do any better than that.
ReplyDeleteStop spouting your drivel.
DeleteMeanwhile, Leanne Tervit knocked back on her application to rejoin Alba.
ReplyDeleteSome people are convinced that they have the right sort of scheme.
James. Is Tas allied to either Ash and McEleny, or Kenny? Or no allies left?
ReplyDeleteShe's gone very quiet, but she must be supporting Kenny. The support of the Corri Wilson clan for Kenny would make no sense otherwise. The runour doing the rounds is that she's cut a deal with Kenny to remain Chair. In the highly unlikely event that Ash Regan wins, she would apparently replace Tas as Chair.
DeleteThanks for Info James. Do you have an opinion who is likely to lead the party better, both within the party and at the polls?
DeleteMy gut feeling is Kenny for both.